DISCUSS: So, what’s with the chemical spills? [UPDATED]
UPDATED 17/02/23 to include details of previous train derailments [skip]
It has been reported, in just the last hour, that there had been a major train derailment near Van Buren Township, just outside Detroit, Michigan:
🚨#BREAKING: Multiple authorities are responding to a massive train derailment outside of Detroit ⁰⁰📌#Vanburen | #Michigan⁰
Currently multiple authorities are responding to a massive train derailment in Van Buren Township Michigan. Officials are reporting that only one car in… https://t.co/kb91u41ZeY pic.twitter.com/CPCcehiuB9— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) February 16, 2023
Fox News is reporting that “at least one” of the derailed cars was transporting “hazardous materials”. If that’s true, and it results in some kind of leak or spill, it will be the third such incident in the last two weeks.
On February 3rd a Norfolk Southern train reportedly derailed near East Palestine Ohio, causing a massive explosion and subsequent fire. The governor of Ohio ordered a temporary evacuation of the area so the unburned chemicals leaking out of the destroyed train could be removed and destroyed in a controlled burn. Earlier today, Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown called on the governor to enact a State of Emergency over the spill.
Then, just yesterday, a road accident near Tucson Arizona caused another chemical spill. This time the local government shut down the highway and issued “shelter in place” orders to protect people from the chemicals.
…it’s all a bit odd, isn’t it?
It reminds us of this time last year, when it seemed every food processing plant in America was suddenly on fire in the space of ten days, and it raises the same questions.
- Are there suddenly more accidents than usual?
- Or are the same number happening they’re just being reported more?
- Either way…why?
- Is it just about spreading fear and chaos?
- Is there an agenda at play?
Hell, in the post-Covid age it behoves us to ask “were there definitely any accidents at all?”
And, of course, you can’t ever completely discount God playing dice with the universe. Coincidences do happen…just not very often.
But what do you guys think?
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UPDATE: So it turns out there actually three previous train derailments we hadn’t heard of before this morning.
On January 20th of this year, a train derailed near Tulsa, Oklahoma. That was followed by another chemical fire, on wednesday, also in Tulsa. The incidents are seemingly unconnected, but it’s still a bit odd.
Three days ago another train derailed near Enoree, South Carolina, and another near Splendora, Texas. Neither (so far) reportedly resulted in any chemical spills or fires.
According to Politifact, there are roughly 1000 train derailments in the US each year, so 5 inside a month is not unusual. Which – if true – begs the questions, why is everyone talking about this?
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Fear is a response to an unknown quantity or sudden threat. These events can be quantified. >
3 more chemicals discovered in Ohio train derailment | Rush Hour
February 14, 2023
3 more chemicals discovered in Ohio train derailment | Rush Hour – YouTube
Other train cars were carrying toxic chemicals such as Iso butylene, Ethylhexyl acrylate, and Ethylene glycol monobutyl ether – all were released into the air, surface soils, and surface waters.
The “controlled burn” was not necessary. It was simply a hurried way to avoid time consuming methods of chemical recovery and disposal. It was a regulatory insanity, period…
If you happen to be interested, there are Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) available on each of these chemical materials. Enter the chemical name followed by MSDS on your search engine.
Will BlackRock’s ESG rating suffer?
Meanwhile the Transport Secretary has his focus right:
https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-transportation-pete-buttigieg-48e09f253781c89359d875f19fc70f9d
Here’s a question:
Is there anything (like maybe shale oil, some unique coal seams, or perhaps a thread of some rare earths) underground at East Palastine, Ohio whose acquisition price has just been driven down?
From our friends at the New York Times, August 19, 1976, The Seveso Disaster: The north Italian town of Seveso has been the scene of an ecological disaster that sounds the alarm about mankind’s fatally laggard approach to the problems of chemical contamination. Seveso’s troubles began early this summer when a chemical plant process went awry. Temperatures and pressures soared, and a valve released a white cloud of smoke.That white cloud contained, among other compounds a chemical called dioxin, a highly toxic substance which, even in minute quantities, can produce deformations in human fetuses. No comparable release of dioxin Into the general environment had ever occurred, and it took a week before the deaths of animals and plants and the development of skin ailments in children led to full recognition of the disaster. Since then the population has been evacuated, and some pregnant women living in the area have had… Read more »
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Then there was Union Carbide and Bhopal in 1984.
https://www.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/bhopal-disaster
The “controlled burn” WAS the only thing they could do. The catastrophe was too large to handle any other way. They had to protect ground and surface waters. There was no way to get neutralizing chemicals on site and in the volume needed quickly enough. A huge miscalculation on phosgene gas release, however. Nothing could be done to fix the environmental catastrophe. There are things that could be done to minimize the risks in the future. Speed was the main problem. Slow the trains down and force these carriers to add cars that have neutralizing chemicals in the event of a spill. Cost should not be a deterrent. It was just a matter of time before something like this happened and no plan was prepared in advance should it happen. These problems have been exacerbated by population growth since the railway regulations were put in place. Ignorance of elected officials… Read more »
What’s left-wing wokism got to do with it? Or population growth? A certain ignorance on the part of elected officials, surely. But just as surely the chemical companies trundling (the trains are not fast) these things around the country have experts who are more than aware of the risks and security measures that ought to be taken (I doubt “neutralizing chemicals” would be sufficient). One might expect that the “controlled” burn was the solution proposed by those same or similarly employed (EPA = industry) experts. I’ve no idea if that was the best or “only” thing they could do. Do you? Really? We do know how honest, upright and reliable the experts are when their salaries are at stake, however. And how woke or left-wing does a multinational chemical company consecrated to the profits of its shareholders have to get before it starts to create catastrophes?
Most definitely wokism. Did you listen to the comments regarding the event made by the transportation secretary? An inexperienced idiot who’s only qualification is that he is gay. Can’t get more woke than that. Can you? He basically said that this was not that big of a deal because we experience a thousand derailments a year in the United States. He said,”This was just one more” as if to say that, we spill thousands of gallons of vinyl chloride in heavily populated areas every year and all them are under control and have no long term problems associated with any of them. That’s how I heard it. And the statement was made two weeks after the derailment because the political pressure forced him to make a comment. Otherwise, he had no plans to address it. Fucking Idiot. I have personally dealt with the US EPA on chemical dumping. Overworked, politically… Read more »
Excellent reply. There were other chemical recovery methods available. This was a poorly coordinated recovery which bypassed published EPA regulations.
Department of Transportation regulations were also ignored by the shipping companies involved. Bill of Lading regulations require that toxic chemical shipments are clearly labeled such that shipping companies and employees utilize proper handling of the product.
Apparently, all of this was ignored in the haste to reopen the rail line.
I see where the “Fact” Checkers are already at work on the Ohio railroad catastrophe, letting us all know “what’s true, what’s false.”
May I channel TPTB and say “Thank God for Fact Checkers?”
Also, I notice (in AOL Mail) that a new study links bad teeth with strokes. Now I’ll channel Big Pharma and say “Thank God for studies!”
Do you think they will use the chemical spill toxicity as a excuse for vaccine side effects/death….?
Another thing is, no mention of terrorists as that was the main sentence after anything that used to happen as in cant or rule out terrorism…….
Putin blame escalation…..
“Which – if true – begs the questions, why is everyone talking about this?”
1) Because it’s the biggest dioxin spill in history (according to Corbett).
2) Because the government and media that went hysterical about fake health “threats” seemed oddly quiet initially about this one.
3) Because there may be something questionable about how it occurred (the evidence that there was a fire before the derailment).
Anyone getting a CHristine Todd Whitman flashback? Being told that it’s safe when all common sense and sensory evidence says the opposite….
It happens and every crumb takes advantage in their net. Then they on something else. The left behind is methodology engineered and presented to the relevant authorities. Last it’s in Public Records.
Long since the actual event, An Article shows up these play acting Morons. To blab It never Happened.
All right man
I listened to the first hour and 35 minutes of this program just now, writing this at 7:54PM 2/17/23, PST. I heard the van Strum interview which follows the first part a couple of days ago, posted it below.
Tonight on Planet Waves FM: Tales from the Secret History of Dioxin, and a Message to East Palestine. Dioxin historian Carol van Strum joins me as I take the history of dioxin back to the first known incident, at a BASF plant in WV in 1949. And: Was the movie “White Noise” predictive programming? Eric Francis Coppolino, 2/17/23.
Dioxin has a long history — and the federal government is adept at concealing the truth, losing samples, lying in court, and conspiring with the companies it’s supposed to regulate. How will the people of East Palestine navigate this medical, legal and scientific maze?
https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/tonight-on-planet-waves-fm-tales
Trains going off the rail might happen 1,000 times a year, however that is like fender benders in a car.
When there is a train crash, with toxic chemicals, and the government sets it on fire to make an even worse event, knowing it will poison water, earth and air, then that is a Chemical Attack. When chemical spills / train wrecks are happening at the same rate that food production plants are being destroyed, and electric substations, then we have a pattern, a pattern of sabotage.
We the people are at war.
The hot war will probably kickoff in 2025.
We ain’t seen nothing yet.
They ain’t seen nothing yet.
And if you check ownership of train coy and chicken farms etc it always seems to trace back to same financial entities…so do we believe they cannot control and manage their empire or wonder if something else is going on?
Edith
Countless Millions of chickens have been rated substandard for consumption in controlled farming back since complied Reports. Back then Americans could even read it,, they were oblivious to such things until they got television Parrot.
Polly the Parrot Prick. “Purr-Due Sam-Witch”.
Rail should be the safest way of transporting chemicals from where they’re made to where they’re used. (Vinyl chloride will be made into PVC, its widely used). The issue here isn’t the chemicals, its the condition of US railroads. The financial model of US businesses prefers to run relatively few very long, slow, trains over questionable track for the best profitability. This does make the trains prone to derail but this seems to be just a cost of doing business — and it is a relatively benign nuisance unless the train is carrying a hazardous cargo. Which it does quite a lot because its preferable (and a lot cheaper) to have these sorts of shipments on railroads than on thousands of extra trucks.
Do not underestimate the effect of sheer incompetence due to diversity hiring. Just as Bootygag is completely unfit for the office of Sec Of Transportation and does nothing but posture about fantasy racial and gay issues, the rank and file of many dangerous heavy industries are full of unqualified diversity hires posing in the roles they occupy. The literature for this particular railroad is a perfect example. The pictures they have of their employees on the job suggests that they have no white men working for them at all. You get enough people on a jobsite pretending to do a job to standards, then you no longer have any standards at all, safety or quality inclusive.
ICI Wilton Works across from British Steel Works on the Tees. The Dockland Industrial, Ships Rigs Fishing Farming People.
PVC it can be can It? You know it’s a huge advantage to grow up not older in a Industrous Society. That much is True.
Thx
Please send to Palestine, Ohio: Interview with dioxin expert Carol van Strum Early in my work covering PCBs and dioxins, I met document collector and author Carol van Strum. She has helped me navigate the political and scientific maze of this notorious chemical. Eric Francis Coppolino, 2/13/23, late last night. [Audio file of the interview, 44 minutes. Details are hair raising alarming. Both Coppolino and vs Strum have had close encounters with dioxin, relate their personal stories. Due to breakdown of constituent t chemicals, dioxin is found in trace amounts all over the place. But trace amounts are all it takes to cause massive harm. The hazardous nature of this substance in minute amounts is amazing. Agent Orange, spraying, toxic shock syndrome in tampons, residues due to paper pulp production, vinyl chloride and PCBs breakdown,…., it’s outrageous what we’ve allowed to happen to our world. And the New York Times enabled coverr-up of this in a major way in the early ‘90s with a series of articles stating… Read more »
Love Canal was all about dioxin. It may be in
-paper products: cartons, cups, wrapping paper, tea bags, coffee filters, labels, tissue paper, disposable diapers
-cleaning liquids
-incinerated PVC plastics and PCB.
Here is more stuff brought to us by The Science:
– fluoride
– food additive: dye, bleach, glaze, flavour, odour, extraction/carrier solvent, emulsifier, stabiliser, gelling agent, anti-caking agent, binder, pH adjusting agent,
foaming agent, preservative, processing aid
– insecticides, herbicides, agro-chemicals
– styrene, BPA (alternatives BPS and BPF are no better), DBP, DEHP, PAPs, PFCs, PDBEs, PFASs, PFOA, pthalates, benzene, perchloro-ethylene, SLS, PCBs, SLS, perchloro-ethylene, plastic micro-particles, nano-particles (from some printers), heavy metals, asbestos,
Note: PFCs include PDBE and PFASs; the ~3,000 types of PFASs include PFOA and PFOS.
If you follow the money you will find your pension funds and most other large managed funds are being used for many nefarious schemes in the name of “combatting climate change” and more.
That is a sobering fact if you care to dig deep and long enough. Not conspiracy.
To assume all of these events are coincidental is optimistic. Some may have been carelessly set in motion by woke hiring practices of incompetent staff, ill-equipped staff, insufficient staff, lack of maintenance etc, but to deny likely links in all of this is to put your head in the sand.
Consider also Canada’s move to make euthanasia an acceptable practice, a certain pandemic and warped “solution”, the attack on sexual identity, family values and conservative views/voices and it’s hard not to think this is a coordinated effect to reduce growth and cull humanity.
No argument at all with your post, just would like to add that deliberate promotion of the incompetent into roles that will result in more “accidental” damage is in itself a form of sabotage.
Yes, agreed!
Ohio’s governor denied disaster assistance. A wit on Twitter says he shold have worn a Zelensky mask.
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Latest Ukraine corruption: It’s discovered that the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine appropriate 7,500 euros from the salary of each missing serviceman.
http://www.elespiadigital.com/index.php/noticias/historico-de-noticias/40045-2023-02-16-20-04-47
Of course some will kill the messenger rather than face the reality: >
Is the Egg Shortage Another Conspiracy?
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
Global Research, February 17, 2023
Is the Egg Shortage Another Conspiracy? – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization
Excerpt: >
“The egg shortage began amidst a series of mysterious fires and other disasters at U.S. food processors
Some farmers have stated chicken feed made by Purina may have been altered to contain lower amounts of protein and minerals, leaving chickens unable to lay eggs. [which has triggered bankruptcies of producers]
A report from the Rockefeller Foundation, released in July 2020 and predicting a coming food crisis, calls for the creation of a centralized “nutrition security system”.”
According to Fox News, the feed supplier was owned by The Tractor Store. Nowhere did I see anything about Purina producing the bad feed. Coincidentally, my grocery store had eggs up the yin yang early this week including extra large and jumbo sized which had not been available for months. Go figure. The cost dropped back down to $4.99 a dozen. It was $7.99 two weeks ago.
Hello Hemlockfen: Purina isn’t the only supplier shorting nutritional quality of feed. Purina just happens to have better protection from media exposure…
I’ve read numerous reader comments on a variety of sites. Reduced egg laying in chicken populations is wide-spread. It would seem small scale open range farms have not been affected. Factory chicken product is loaded with antibiotics, hormone manipulations, and drugs to reduce restlessness in cages.
Egg prices in my area have been gradually creeping up for over a year. I’m glad I no longer eat eggs or chicken products. I noticed chicken products gave me migraines and nightmares years ago.
The Tractor Supply feed source (I forget the name. Produced exclusively for Tractor Supply) had changed it’s formulation and is also sold nationally. Maybe they and Purina went in the same direction to remain competitive or, possibly, push smaller producers out of the market with a less expensive reformulation. Eggs in my store dropped 3 bucks in a week and were overstocked. In the Tucker interview last week, the local growers began experiencing egg production problems as far back as July. It took this long for them to figure out it was the feed. I love eggs. A staple in my diet. My headaches stem from government lies. Nightmares?: Maybe when I take afternoon naps and my dog licks me on the mouth to wake me up and take her out…… I told my neighbor (who keeps chickens even though it is against local codes) that he cannot free range… Read more »
Hate coincidences. Seldom in my experience, have I not found something awry.
“Mr. Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: ‘Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action’.”
Just rename this site Comment US and be done with it. Everyone else will come back in a 100 years when DUMB fuckers get out of world school along with the junkers.
“Bond. James Bond.”
The derailment occurred on 2/3. I’ve written here about the significance of 23 here previously. See the 2007 film ‘The Number 23’. Those place names East Palestine and Van Buren may be decidedly non-coincidental as well. I’ve heard it claimed Van Buren was the only US President not to belong to a certain fraternal brotherhood (although I’d like to see substantiation that he wasn’t and some other C19th Presidents were). BTW somebody wrote on a recent thread that at least this year’s Superbowl half-time wasn’t the usual Occult festival. It was more subtle than some previous years (not difficult) and more subtle than the Grammys (even less difficult) but…. 1) It was sponsored by Apple whose name and logo are Luciferian (the forbidden fruit in Eden). 2) It took place in Phoenix – the bird is significant in alchemy and the city located on the 33rd parallel.. 3) Rihanna descended… Read more »
Are you serious?
Three thumbs down (at time of writing) to my very serious question means that at least two others (The Trinity?) actually do take this stuff seriously. Would that they were as serious about an environmental and human disaster or three (at time of writing). Numerology and mumbo jumbo cannot unlock the secrets of the real cabals.
I have found this discrepency in many commenters – very astute commentary mixed up with a fixation on numerology and even anagrams. John Hamer is one such. His huge book Welcome to the Masquerade has a terrific compilation of the truly staggering fear porn getting churned out via e.g. sci-fi movies and TV series of the last decade or so. Hamer notes the obvious cross referencing within this grand guignol assembly and how it relates obviously to the viral terror whipped up with covid…. and then he tells us that both numbers and anagrams never lie! Very odd. He both writes and talks intelligently. But then you get that other stuff.
The fascination w numerology is not on the part of the commenter: It’s merely a recognition of its importance to the criminal cabal. Indeed, Ursula von der Leyen, an insider, once spoke about it publicly.
But you’re right that it’s impossible to know whether a particular co-incidence of the cabal’s favored numbers is evidence of “certain involvement.”
so you dont believe in quantum? do you believe god rolls dice?
No and no.
Crikey Edwige, my birthday is 23 February!
Nice knowing you, May . . .
Isn’t it “Be seeing you, 23?”
Wow look at the time of your posting 👹
yeah, mine to. was that date in the article an i missd it?
Rihanna, “great queen.”
https://babynames.com/name/rihanna
Nice analysis.
I think the whole thing about trains and chemical spills is a function of reporters really being “repeaters,” as someone more intelligent than me once said. The second time is the charm. The media dropped the ball on reporting the East Palestine spill but now they’re making up for lost time by actually reporting on trains and spills. It turns out they happen all the time. Who knew? The important thing here is not the reporting, per say, but the absence of reporting and the absence of awareness about large swaths of the goings-on in a terrifyingly complex world. We only become aware of the dangers of X, Y, and Z when the media report them. They only report them after not doing their job and the failings of the fourth estate being trumpeted on the internet. And when they’re done reporting on X, Y, and Z these things recede… Read more »
The crux of the thing is that control of the media by a few corporations allows censorship of all views except what the criminal cabal want us to believe. Although you’re right that dumbing down in the schools doesn’t help– which of course was also accomplished via their manipulation and centralized control of the schools.
The same people who own the train own the media.
This is where ‘conspiracy theory’ comes in to answer or attempt to answer the above questions..
If anyone who investigates a connection between recent derailments, crashes, road transport spills, fires etc. is labelled a ‘conspiracy theorist’, ‘conspiracy nut’, ‘tinfoil hat wearer’, by the Media, then we are part way there – we know that there is a conspiracy.
Deja vu: MIHOP or LIHOP.
Nowadays I suspect it is both.
But most definately among the contributing factors are:
Lack of maintenance huge lack of 20-21st century infrastructure on this great Continent in my personal opinion.
Doom porn.
The only thing derailed is the system.
If this is not evidence of the acceleration of the crypto-occultists, scripted pre-conditioning magick, I don’t know what is:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/health/ohio-train-derailment-white-noise/index.html
‘white noise’ was written by devil’lo, “The Man Who Invented 9/11”
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/reviews/a2942/delillo/
It is most likely set up. https://expose-news.com/2022/12/05/list-of-animals-that-have-died-suddenly/
Off topic but this is such a hoot!
The Graud have delivered their funniest ever page:
“Juries deserve the truth on climate protests
Readers respond to a judge’s decision to stop activists explaining their motivation for disruptive climate demonstrations”
What follows is a collection of letters from irate Graud readers expressing solidarity with the climate protestors and fury at Judge Silas Reid for not allowing the protestors to talk about their motivation because, you know, nobody gets to hear about the climate crisis!
See? The Graud really does permit reader’s opinions!
The song debuted in the album American Pie in October 1971, and was released as a single in December. The song’s eight-and-a-half-minute length meant that it could not fit entirely on one side of the 45 RPM record, so United Artists had the first 4:11 taking up the A-side of the record and the final 4:31 the B-side.
Basically, the tech was not available.
But..wait a minute..the moon..the moon, we went.
Carry on!
Hated it, wasn’t the only one by far. It boomed out of Radio One day and night. Yank music., throw in Monkees and Disco. That’s their roll out Stone mag.
“New formations of violent extremism are brewing away in the post-Covid context. Rapidly increasing economic inequalities, catastrophic natural disasters, vaccination mandates are some key contributing factors and the rise of social media and encrypted messaging enable the free flow of extremist content.The Australian far right, which inspired the white Australian Christchurch terrorist Brenton Tarrant, continue to be active in efforts to recruit. Sovereign citizens, anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are also highly active, while misogynists such as Andrew Tate continue to spread their messaging through social media.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/17/we-need-to-talk-about-extremism-and-its-links-to-christian-fundamentalism
this is the way think and speak about us ..how they link us all together, seamlessly.
The high price of Australian grown wheat is The Russian’s fault !
Worried that they might catch birdflu from hens has affected rooster’s peckers and put them off sex ? If you believe that you’ll believe anything.
https://michaelwest.com.au/sex-shy-roosters-peck-away-at-chicken-giants-profits/
Agressive lesbian chickens & incel roosters.
There are no eggs on the long and winding road that leads to stunning & brave…
Yes! The roosters are all identifying as hens now and adopting many of the eggs as they can’t produce their own.
Its called ‘egg envy’.
Egg Nog Addicts.
Fighting the good fight:
https://real-left.com/anatomy-of-the-covidian-left-response-to-the-left-and-covid-part-1-of-2/
There is definitely something going on, the food processing plants being damaged/destroyed, the “bird flu” supposedly on the rise resulting in the culling of thousands of turkeys and chickens, the electrical substation attacks, the train derailments are all too much to be coincidental.
USA proceeding steadily into its collapse-of-USSR moment, perhaps?
Exactly what Soros wants.
Correct. Some of these fiasco’s may be coincidence. But bird culling and food processing plant fires are more than coincidence. Many of these plans were discussed in psyop meetings years ago. “Sustainable” agriculture as discussed within the Agenda 2030 documents introduce the employed mechanisms.
A Sinister Agenda Behind California Water Crisis? Looming Food Supply Catastrophe
By F. William Engdahl
Global Research, June 12, 2021
A Sinister Agenda Behind California Water Crisis? Looming Food Supply Catastrophe – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization
On the other hand, what the Ford Frick does it matter. (I’ve turned into my My Hyde manifestation) Just another in an endless stream of whodunits while the perpetraitors laugh all the way to the bank. I propose a global people’s committee be organized to include citizen representatives from every country on the planet with the purpose of presenting a formal complaint against the rich and powerful on the planet who are seeking to control and destroy us to the United Nations. It must be of outstanding size, very significantly funded, and publicized and endorsed by every available alternative internet site on the planet that is on our side. Instead of following the bouncing red ball, how about we get on the ball for a change. We’re at DefCon 1.
A natural reaction. Letting people live their lives / letting us be was never on the menu.
Nevertheless playing their game can bring nothing but grief.
US People are actually on a diet. Americans became aware of their own obesity in 1985.
It’s the government mandate to lockdown people on any other pretense now that the headcold has been established as sufficient
It has nothing to do with dangerous chemicals or shitty public transport.
As long as we’re discussing infrastructure, here’s a little note I made a month or two back:
106 attacks on the electricity grid in 1st 8 mos of ’22. Since then, there have been at least 18 more publicly reported attacks or potential attacks on substations and power plants in Florida, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina, and Washington. —Time
Of course it’s “extremist attacks.” Stories about it on the net.
Here’s an interesting theory that this is a pretext for “15 minutes” cities:
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/fourth-toxic-train-derailment-all
In the bigger picture, this is also a continuation of the great poisoning that has been ongoing for decades. Here’s the text of the “secret covenant” which may be a hoax but which still “truthfully” conveys the mindset of the Elite: “An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur. We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute. We will work together always and will… Read more »
We are seeing/experiencing this being played out in real time right before our eyes
Who did write this? Is it a book?
Reminds me of The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion document and also the audio files on the eugenicist / depopulation plans of The New Barbarians.
From what I can find online, it appears to originate from a ‘Masonic Creed’ supposedly written by John D Rockefeller. Though whether he actually penned it is up for debate.
I see you’ve included quotes. Where did the dialoge originate? And why did you not include a link? Enquiring minds wish to know…
From what I can find online, it appears to originate from a ‘Masonic Creed’ supposedly written by John D Rockefeller. Though whether he actually penned it is up for debate.
“And you’ll be happy”
I look forward to asking Klaus Schwab in person whether he is ‘happy’.
If he can manage to rub two additional brain cells together, I would also like to ask him to describe his notion of ‘happy’, using words which a competent human adult could understand…
“Vat is happiness? ‘To crush your enemies — Zee zem driven before you, und to hear zee lamentation of zeir vomen!’ Zis is happiness”
February 19, DC anti-war rally. It appears a good part of the money to Ukraine:
As detailed by Russell Brand in the video, Ukraine is slated to be the largest, most comprehensive test lab for globalist takeover tools such as digital ID, central bank digital currency (CBDC), a social credit system1 and even an AI-aided judicial system2 — all under the guise of “humanitarianism.”
Micromanaged by neoliberal juntas such as White Helmets and the Azov Batallion.
Warm fuzzies across the board. Besides stray bullets.
Russell Brand With His Cuddle Buddy And “Beautiful Person” Yuval Noah Harari
https://youtu.be/C3tgjHtml4M
There’s a reason why Billionaires prefer New Zealand over Australia for building their nuclear war bunkers. ‘An environmental impact study from the 1980s estimated that a nuclear winter would affect Australia for one year, and that added stress from refugees would lead to nationwide food insecurity. It concluded that: “Nevertheless, the physical survival of most of the population is likely in Australia provided cities are not targeted.” But little did the authors know that secret Australian government cabinet documents confirmed that the USSR indeed had Perth and other major cities on the list of nuclear targets. The reasons were that Australia is home to the US spy station, Pine Gap, it allowed American B52 bombers to surveil the Indian Ocean from Australian bases, and it hosted the US Navy.” (Doomsday Bunkers.Nexus magazine Feb-March 2023). Should the threat of nuclear war continue to be racheted up, should Russia come to the… Read more »
Having manifested ‘White Noise’, they now intend to manifest ‘On the Beach’?….
Doubtful. From the “On The Beach” story line:”After World War III, Australia is the only remaining haven for mankind.” The overarching problem with NZ as safe haven is that NZ is integrated within the 5eyes grid. As is the Netherlands (I live in Amsterdam) by means of a listening and spying facility code named Echelon.
Sorry, off topic:
Australia is now officially, and literally, the 51st, or is it the 52nd state, after Canada?
“Australians have resisted the nuclearization of our military for decades and now the Albanese government is letting the Americans do it for us.”
More here:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2023/02/irresponsible-politics-australias-b-52-nuclear-weapons-problem/
Never you mind. We’ll fix that little red wagon out of China!!
Hahaha, in my mind I see that famous scene of a redneck cowboy
riding a nuclear / nuke-u-lar missile.
Accompanied by a Jon Bon Jovi song. “I’m a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride…”
There is something called “Grey Terror” (as opposed to Red Terror, etc.), an established military/ political/ propaganda tactic. Apparent accidents or natural disasters, horrific criminal acts or “terrorist” outrages, train derailments and the like, maybe mysterious balloons and UFOs, speculation about man made earthquakes, etc. Nobody can say for sure if these are random occurrences that have to be expected in the normal course of events or if something more sinister is afoot, and this only adds to the uncertainty. The motivation is always the same, and serves two purposes. 1. To create a general unsettled atmosphere of fear, uncertainty, doubt and confusion. 2. To distract attention from something more important that is happening. The archetype for the first of these is the state orchestrated Gladio or Baader-Meinhof Grey Terror of the 70s and 80s. Highly publicised bombings, kidnappings and murders attributed to the Left to undermine established socialist parties… Read more »
Some reports on the derailment in Ohio mention that this accident could have been prevented if the emergency systems had worked as intended. Apparently three attempts to stop this train failed. Some cars being already alight before the derailment has also been mentioned. I guess we will know in due course.
The derailment in Ohio was one of three that day.
Blighty has had the same problem years ago, just before British Rail was run down and sold off. Some also occurred after privatisation.
Maybe the infrastructure is no longer fit for purpose? The same story has been true for some of the bridges. Or maybe it’s a case of the rail owners and politicians being no longer fit for purpose?
There may be more accidents than usual if the railroad infrastructure (including the state of the tracks and the carriage stock) across the country has reached a point of degradation that major accidents such as the derailments in East Palestine (Ohio) and in Detroit are to be expected on a weekly basis. There could also be more movements of hazardous chemicals and other materials across the country by train. That might point to something being prepared or being carried out. Have all these movements of hazardous materials started only recently, and if so, why? A shortage of semi-trailer drivers may be pushing authorities to transport large amounts of hazardous material via railroad in spite of the dangers and the risks involved. At the same time there may be a shortage of train drivers, so the material has to be hauled by trains with very many carriages. That might increase the… Read more »
Charles Reich in 1970. (Paraphrasing):
‘It is possible that just about every major social and political mega-problem we’re now facing can in some way be traced to varying degrees of corporatization–from renewed interest in war as a solution to international relations to Big Pharma’s capture of health care to the influence of dark money in
our political system’
‘Possible’ is an understatement.
It is possible the truckers are behind the rash of rr disasters? Truckers are smart they don’t want to carry those dangerous chemicals .. through big cities where lots of hungry lawyers hang out they know a money judgement trumps a flat tire.
Well, I am a truly grateful and enthusiastic off guardian subscriber, but now after all the millions of words written and absorbed, I think the most important discussion should be around the question of whether the “virus” entity itself actually exists or not.. What if it is not “real”? ..such a reality if negative should then be crucial to all further discussions here. Please everybody,just stop and think about this. I am not trolling. This must be the “core”element of all our deliberations . This is the most important question of all. Is there a “virus” or not? Dr Cowan and the Doctors Bailey and others have been dismissed here as hopeless grifters, but is this really fair? Have you thought about their thesis and studied their work? If “virology” is a flawed science, then, so much of the extraneous discussions here are just pointless noise and distraction. Of course… Read more »
Completely agree. You left out Dr Stefan Lanka but the Baileys and Cowa and Kaufman do not. Point is, leaving aside his scientific acumen and writings, that he offered EUR 100k years back to anyone who could prove the measles virus existed.
Some fellow submitted various bogus articles and a lower court in German condemned Lanka to pay up.Lanka appealed to the highest court in his “Land” (province) jurisdiction in Germany, as I recall, and that court overturned the previous ruling. So Lanka still has his 100k.
This happened around2007, I think.
The final ruling (which was in favour of Stefan Lanka) was 2016. The lower court did not even look at the studies that were presented, the higher court ruled in his favour (correctly imho) because none of the studies could show proof of a successfull isolation of the measles virus.
A bit far off topic dontyareckon? Unless they start blaming the inevitable sickness caused by the fallout of these toxic outbreaks on viruses.
Vast majority of Off-Guardian commenters and writers/editors agree that the COVID virus does not exist.
Vast majority of readers also agree that viruses in general don’t exist. Off-Guardian staff however chooses to remain (somewhat aggressively) agnostic on that question
No! Some of us lean towards the hypothesis that there’s no such thing as viruses. I lean that way myself. But since the issue isn’t proven yet – despite all the hyper-ventilating of the troo-disbleevers – we have to leave it open to discussion.
Based on my observations, I’d have to say you are in the minority there. Most people here consider the issue settled, and are of the opinion that virology is a falsehood, a hoax, and a scam, plain and simple.
Can true science ever really be settled? The “experts” on the Megadeath Virus of Doom tell us “the science is settled” every single day and we know good and well their “science” is mostly bullshit those experts are paid handsomely to spew.
I myself do doubt virus theory as we’ve come to know it today, since most of what we are told is utter lies. But not all of it is lies, and that is the tricky part. Our owners do that intentionally as well, to keep us doubting what we maybe should not doubt, and to keep us blindly accepting what we should most likely never accept.
Completely disagree. It’s irrelevant whether the virus or viruses exist or not: as with global warming, what matters is the instrumentalisation against us. Accidents or deliberate sabotage spreading toxic chemicals into the environment, on the other hand, whatever the cause, have direct, immediate and palpable consequences, especially for people, plants and animals in the areas polluted/contaminated, but also for others down the line who will suffer toxic runoff making land and water unusable, food shortages, evacuations, fear and destabilisation. And in these times, their repeated occurrence in such a brief period raises the very relevant questions listed above.
I don’t say the “terrain” theorists are wrong; I don’t pretend to know and find that those who do and that this is “the first issue on which all of the tyranny depends” are kidding themselves and the rest of us.
Exactly right StS!
Therefore I propose allowing for both the virus AND terrain narrative.
And adding to Saint Stephens comment I want to stress that the Ohio narrative
is madness, insanity. A “controlled burn”. Of a chemical that when burned turns
into a toxic gas, a mustard gas to be precise (chemical weapon used in WW1).
Thus producing a big poisonous smoke column spreading toxic material to a wide area. The “What is this – I don’t even” meme of the picture with the rabbi’s studying while bent over some scrolls applies IMO.
A bit more dangerous than plain mustard gas, it was phosgene.
WW1 actually mustard gas drenched trenches and dug outs, was more deadly was sanitised test metered rendering it neutral for the men. Obviously your knowledge is alamist and seriously lacking in History of the Great War.
Follow ‘US Right to Know’. https://usrtk.org/?mc_cid=5520095949
It doesn’t follow, Sean, that the existence/non-existence of viruses trumps all other discussions. That idea smacks of the endless, venomous disputes amongst the wanky little splinters of the acute-left – in the left’s heyday – about obscure details of analysis and doctrine. Entirely pointless wank, which largely sidelined the entire left in the minds of many onlookers. Your proposal implies that people like Del Bigtree and Robert Kennedy, just to name a couple of examples discussed here recently, are doing nothing valuable at all with their work, simply because they still accept the ‘virus’ idea – nominally, at least. Do you suppose that they’re unable to be open-minded about it in their discussions, and thus should be written off in their entirety? Some chatterers here have proposed that, but it’s obvious hyper-purist nonsense. To be clear, I find the argument of the ‘no-such-thing’ camp persuasive. But, if true, the total… Read more »
I’ll return the compliment: Spot on!
Both Communists are Reich’s going back 1500 years. Art ancient leaning is progressing abilities.
I guess some people want to believe so hard in the existente of viruses, that they just cannot Imagine that they might have been conned.
If it’s prominent reporting for distraction, could this be why?
NATO AMENDS STATUTES TO PERMIT NON-DEFENSIVE WAR
NATO Defense Ministers met to sign a Convention amending its statutes to be able to be at war outside the scope of Article 5, in other words without one of its members being attacked.
Meeting was February 14 & 15 in Brussels.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article218858.html
[I was unable to confirm the above, but Voltaire is usually reliable, and the videos of the NATO meetings certainly dealt with ramping up armaments.]
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It is more than possible that HAARP was behind the quakes in Turkey & distraction from this realization is another possibility. Early part of the video are intro to Haarp technology, then the reasons to suspect its use. Final part is just a religious rant that you can skip
https://cairnsnews.org/2023/02/15/haarp-and-its-role-in-transforming-the-earth/ video
You’re flogging a dead horse Penelope.
TPTB can’t even perform reliable cloud seeding. How the hell could they create earthquakes in specific locations?
Along with the Pacific rim, Turkey is one of the most earthquake prone areas on the planet.
Seems to be censored, P. “Access restricted: contains incitement to hatred” – FFS!
Hahaha, videos from Bitchute are quite often restricted to viewers in the NL,
claiming incitement and so on. The nonsense stopped making sense years ago.
Well, here are some unpleasant conspiracy possibilities: If you can’t kill people with Covid19 jabs, then try using phosgene instead. If you can’t make an economic case for ‘green energy’ due to the complete lack of capability to produce enough electric cars to replace oil-driven cars, then start destroying all aspects of the oil/gas/chemicals industry in ways that make people start saying ‘oh it’s suddenly all too dangerous!’ The USA military doesn’t yet have the balls to use HAARP technology to create ‘the big one’ on the San Andreas Fault. Creating accidents where white hillbillies live is a good way of destroying core Republican voting constituencies. If the railways can be shown to be totally unsafe, then ‘food supply chains’ can really be disrupted beautifully, causing more food shortages in the shops, more food destroyed by farmers/wholesalers etc etc. If the Ukraine war is going so badly that the public… Read more »
Excellent well-thought-out comment, Rhys. You’re probably right. Thanks.
Why don’t some nasty events happen inside the Beltway? Near the CIA headquarters? At major naval yards? In Southern Manhattan??
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like 9/11?
Exactly! Nowhere is sacred in the minds of the crazies in the basement(s). (In the case of 11/9 the basements were in Tel Aviv and DC – both – with the TA basement being the ultimate originator of the false flag.)
Rhys jaggar, great comment. Keep up the excellent work.
If one looks into Israel’s poster boy contract with Pfizer, its clotshot health damage to their population at large, its constant increase in “boosters,” and its clotshot mandates, one might conclude that David Icke is correct and the Luciferian Zionist death cult is a subversive group hiding within the Jewish community and actually hates Jews.
All good.
( in lieu of a downvote )
Compassion for the victims is conspicuous by its absence in this lengthy post, but contempt for them is clear in the remark above. These are working people whose labors serve idle and cruel ( compassionless ) others. The former are extolled by Voltaire as he identifies their lessers:
” For thee the world at work has been
That thou at ease might vent thy spleen ”
..and to paraphrase Maggie Thatcher: ” There are two kinds of people in the world: those who do all the work and those who [ try to take the credit ]. Try to belong to the first group; there’s less competition there.” Substitute in the brackets ” rail and complain ” and take it to heart.
Top drawer post.
Obviously it’s our reptilian overlords adjusting the atmospheric conditions to something they’re more comfortable with.
There is a message in there:
East Palestine!
“WE ARE ALL PALESTINIANS, NOW”.
Good one, i was thinking the same.
They failed with the Coronadoom,
now they are just “in our face” trying to harm and kill us.
If that fails, there is always the nuclear option.
If the toxic jabs dont kill you, there’s always toxic plumes.
Private and privatised businesses have been squealing about government regulations, government interference and safety requirements for years (It eats into their profits).
As infrastructure deteriorates, accidents happen.
During the Scamdemic maintenance levels would have been at their lowest, especially in the US where rules and regulations are seen as Socialist.
“most reports dont mention dioxin.”
eric was making good sense, then startled me with his Star Charts:
Look ! Up in the sky !
https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/look-up-in-the-sky
‘ […..] However, the problem is that nobody knows what is significant anymore. The theme of full digital conditions is “everything all at once” and “everything is really urgent”.
That reduces everyone and everything to being either perfectly insignificant, or of undermined significance. This is a problematic situation because it makes it difficult to prioritize, and also is an enticement to pretend everything is a lie’
https://planetwaves.net/leo-full-moon-at-imbolc/
‘We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.’ CIA Director William Casey (@ 37.00): Trust Ultra, Trust Naomi (1.24.00)
https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/in-ultra-we-trust
‘Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with “the body of fact” that exists in the mind of the general public’ Tobacco Industry internal memo 1969.
By sowing doubt about research linking tobacco smoking to lung cancer Big Tobacco was able to reap decades of profits, and stayed legislators from acting.
Eric is an astrologer,one of the few good ones out there. And he has been studying dioxins for a long time. Definitely worth reading.
For one, these reports bring me back to New Orleans and fond memories of the 2010 BP oil ‘spill’ (oops, sorry!). I still get a tear in my eye recalling Obomber and his daughter swimming in protected bay waters to encourage the hoi polloi to swim in the shit of the Gulf. Had some headline staring at me earlier about railroad reps being no-shows for those so-called town hall meetings, where officials and experts provide in-person PR BS to reassure those downwind and downstream there’s nothing to see here, move along, move along. Maybe in the legacy of Tony Heyward yachting, chief executives have been playing golf in Bali or some such pastime of these parasites and predators while their biocide runs amok. Anyway, sounds like cleanup coverup is already well underway with Science certifying safety from rigged measurements, where some ever-shifting number on the scales for our poisoning has… Read more »
Complaints like this one, and others on this thread, are beginning to reach Biblical proportions. It’s raining fire and brimstone on sinful Sodom all over again, the children of proud harlot Babylon are being broken all over again, and prophets are being arraigned by the Authorities for predicting the destruction for the Temple all over again.
Never mind, Life goes on, it has seen worse,
“Kaf thrusts its snouted peak through fog,
For terrible is Earth”. — Herman Melville, Poems.
Not one for sinners-in-the-hands-of an-angry-god sermons myself, but I recall much earlier milestones like Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring, and how it was often met by characterization or caricature as a chicken-little, luddite reaction to Progress, or how people protesting pollution were clean air freaks. Again, pick your poison, but I’ve only got one word for you: plastics.* The earth’s plight from their blight alone is enough to know saying c’est la vie may be rather pathologically upbeat If anything seems biblical, it’s the false prophets who keep crying out against detractors of industrial civilization, because things have only gotten worse since Silent Spring, and that was a long time ago.
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