19 Memes to get you through the Day – Part 31
…and we’re back. We know you missed this, even if you hated the memes before, you felt the lack. To quote the prophet Mitchell, you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone.
We’ve got bank collapses, war and political arrests to cover. IT’s all funny stuff. Let’s start with SVB, shall we? The internet went a lil bit meme crazy with that one.
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He’s not wrong.
2.
Maybe just have them start printing apology letters?
3.
I was over drawn briefly last month. Can confirm.
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Captain Communism is here to protect the 1% from losing the game they rigged.
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It’s not funny. Don’t laugh.
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If poor people wanted bailouts, they wouldn’t have been poor in the first place.
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They really needed a distraction.
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Speaking of fake crimes that never happened….
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The most interesting intelligence asset in the world.
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She’s bound to be right eventually. If not, she can just delete the tweets.
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Ironically, if he’d been drinking more fluoridated water he wouldn’t be asking this question.
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She must have completed her stamp card by now.
13.
Easier, if anything. There are more of them, they ask for less money and don’t have to make their income public knowledge.
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They’re our biggest fan.
15.
Inventing diseases by pathologising normal behaviour is like a license to print money (which do exist…see SVB memes).
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Worth it. Anyone who says otherwise is cooking chicken wrong.
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Works just as well for nations as it does for candidates.
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…I made myself sad.
19.
We mean YouTube, or Twitter, or the Guardian…not our comments, obviously.
And finally…
Not a meme, but it’s rapidly becoming a joke.
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I’m trying to copy an image from todays globalresearch.ca. It probably won’t work – I’ve never gotten the hang of it. But here goes.
No, I didn’t think it would work. If you’re interested, I’ve linked to the article.
Massive Propaganda Machine Brainwashing Americans – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization
Oh wow! It looks like it did work!
Imagine a Meme section triggering people instead of making them smile.
This has been the best meme section ever.
I cried with laughter.
They only way to know you want be caught with a bomb and ruin your big day
Is if you don’t have a bomb.
Like if you were part of the Libyan fighting group supported by the UK Government
and your handlers have got you to to take part in there exercise.
Is there a name for the following fallacy?
Here is the fucked up reasoning:
What is this called? Totally-Fucked-Up-in-the-Head Fallacy?
Guilt by association. It’s a red herring, a diversion tactic.
That’s pretty close.
So, all you guys who argue that communism is bullshit because Marx liked to fuck an aristocratic woman and she liked to fuck him are committing the guilt by association fallacy.
Human values says so.
In other words, stop worrying about who his partner was and worry about his ideas. I’m sure you’ll commit all sorts of fallacies in doing so too, but at least there will something to discuss.
Invoking Marx’s sexual partner is total phantasmagoria!
I’m sure there’s a good meme out there saying “Q-TARDS: TRUST THE PLAN”
Lol.
Happy equinox
indeed, trouble always looms, imagine living in the (alleged?) Dark Ages, or reformation europe, for meagre examples…? world changing trouble is always ahead, PEASANT!!!
just not quite like it does now, in digi-drone-land.
btw, anyone notice the horrors of drones in the ukropian war? sick fukn shit, death from above, nasty nasty, a game played by anomic teens…
then look at the ukrop trident – it is a fucking winged bomb; a drone. ??
they are just honing their control toys, on the battlefield, but coming to a disorderly street near you as soon as required.. UKR is drone-hone exercise in a way.
enjoy : )
In early doors, the people falling in the streets in China or Italy etc are proven lies.
Why do you think the controlled opposite is real. ?
Fake binary. wake up.
At the risk of repeating myself, I am horrified and appalled by the video montage of one person after another collapsing from NTDWTV* Syndrome!
* Nothing to Do With the Vaccine
you shouldn’t be, they made their individual choice. so be it.
but, aye, none of it is vaguely entertaining.
If you have taken the Covid vaccine there is a treatment.
The Japanese have used it for centuries.
Here is a helpful previous post:
https://off-guardian.org/2022/12/03/strep-a-the-next-next-pandemic/#comment-570468
why don’t you just declare/describe? oh enigma.
To get rid of self-assembling nano-tech? Graphene layers?
And how do you reverse the signals given out by synthetic mRNA?
I wonder if Levi Tate is referring to the ancient Japanese art of hara-kiri.
Hopefully this was useful information to at least a couple of people.
The rest I am not worried about. People are pretty predictable.
(Can’t find the link? Well definitely don’t click on it then.)
keep in mind that the things pulled out of the corpses are not coagulated blood;
they are white rubbery strings of -??? (I wish someone would analyse them)
Still, every little bit helps, and maybe for someone who might have smaller aggregates of the ?silicone strands,
nattokinase (& other anticoags) may prevent blood clots forming around them
Mike Adams’ analysis of blood clots that are not blood clots:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-17-elemental-analysis-results-released-vaccine-clot-composition-not-blood-clots.html
βOne conclusion is inescapable: The clot is almost entirely lacking key marker elements that would be present in human blood (such as iron and potassium) yet shows significantly higher concentrations of elements that are used in electronics and circuitry.β
and Tuesday came and no one got arrested.
The ritual was performed on the clueless.
The same who ridicule 322, Whilst participating in a ‘Equinox’ new moon 322 ritual.
Damn – the swag is level 1000 though.
I might be inclined to second that. However, only insofar as the foregoing is a subset of a more generally encompassing statement
ALL ….. (enter the subject of your idolatry)-ISTS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS.
Don’t put nobody on a pedestal and don’t look up to nobody as the owner of Truth.
> Donβt put nobody on a pedestal and donβt look up to nobody as the owner of Truth.
Hear the man!
So, I’ve let myself be talked into giving guitar lessons to this little girlie from the neighborhood (I don’t normally take beginners, too much pain in the ass). She is super perceptive, smart, fun to teach. Her parents are intelligent, unconventional, always lived out in nature, appear reasonably tuff (living in a small cottage, four of them, while building a house).
Today, I cycle down to the village to get bread and what do I see. The mum is out-fucking-side wearing an N95 respi-fucking-rator. What’s up, I ask. We’ve got covid, she says.
What the fuck?
There is no hope.
We’re fucked
acht man, just ignore, WE ain’t fukt yet, just half way there ; )
thanks to our “fellow” “citizens”.
It takes all sorts, doesn’t it? Forgive them … just remember that the PTB have spent million/billions on propagandizing the fear-narrative and generally most succumb to the divide-and-rule ‘syndrome’ …
Humans being ‘social animals’ crave acceptance …
The number of people collapsing is NOT an amusing spectacle. The majority of these individuals will NOT fully recover from low oxygen injuries to brain function, nor from associated cardio-vascular damage and autoimmune disease.
Covid Vaccine Scientific Proof Lethal
Published:January 5, 2022
Covid Vaccine Scientific Proof Lethal β SUN (saveusnow.org.uk)
The number of studies has only increased since publication. Observe associated links. OffGuardian’s frivolous attitude sucks.
From your link:
Wow! They really should have held those documents more securely. Biggest single crime against humanity ever and they let that cat out of the bag.
But whoΒ΄s to mind about any random cat ? ItΒ΄s just another cat straying around.
Have you ever thought about that they are so happy to expose these cats ? What is it called again…yeah , mocking is the word. IΒ΄ve heard they have a passion for mocking.
from the home page:
do wake up!
My sympathies only extend to children who have been harmed by this vial of horror – and that includes college students who were compelled to be poisoned.
I’m glad to see the memes back, and this was a great set of them. But I have to admit I was a little disappointed when it turned out that “that prophet Mitchell” wasn’t the guy from Peep Show.
https://postimg.cc/gXJQkMbD
Another indication of self-negating “critique” on somebody or other’s substack:
The “Part 1” should cause a massive depression. Especially when it already lasts the length of a book. Whe you are encouaged to read a library’s worth of material on defending the supposedly blasphemous claim that no-one can just switch from one gender to another, it only enforces the suspicion that – hey! – maybe there is something in the gender switching claim.
Very Jewish/Zionist: Identity by Negation.
That includes your alt media celebs.
Many Still dont get it…
Like David Icke said many many years ago they are repeaters not reporters.
check out the David icke website and iconic show. they shill for fox news and gbnews.
Icke best mate webmaster main contributor (zen gardner) – pedo got nickd for being a nonce.
U.k shillum and co covered it up.
“Many” is a huge understatement. Massive numbers sounds more appropriate. “Journalists & media professionals” yet another one. Include almost the entire established society.
Politicians and scientists are just like whores, only more expensive.
whores provide a more honest service,
Why do people keep claiming that because corrupt staff led that crack pot into the senate that he didn’t create merry hell and didn’t scream that he wanted to kill Nancy because when you do that you don’t seem to get the cops had no right to take the crackpot into the fucking senate.
So how many jabs have you gotten so far?
I don’t think thus is the original “Marilyn Shepherd’.
There have been other posts that seem to be of a different cant than her usual.
always been a jekyll and hyde, our Marilyn, depends on subject matter.
True.
Pending at 12:31 pm. I wouldn’t normally bother. But someone has to sort this troll out!
Rotten tomatoes at the ready? Wait for it, wait for it…..There’s Trump!: “BOO! HISS!”
So which part of Trump do you like the best?
That he authorized the Emergency Orders on March 13, 2020, that provided legal provocation for mask and death clot jab mandates, as well as authorizing the military Operation Warp Speed, that gave us his greatest achievement, the death clot jab?
Or is it his long history as a back scratching NYC Demonrat, and his long term relations with Roy Cohn, Wilbur Ross (Rothschild Bank), Les Wexner, J. Epstein, Alex Acosta, B. Barr, Sheldon Adelson, etc.?
Trump is just another banker boss puppet POS. Just like all the world leaders.
Oh for fuck’s sake, why do I have to keep spelling it out? Yes of course Trump is like all the rest i.e. a puppet. He’s the “fall guy”. Which is why these ever so “smart and sassy” anti-Trump memes are bullshit. All that stuff about the “twisted logic of a Trump supporter”.
Oh an by the way, didn’t you notice that you will actually get something closer to the truth from “The Right” at the moment – due to the fact that the mainstream now deals from “The Left”? Ever since covid started, I turned to the likes of Peter Hitchens and Delingpole. That doesn’t mean “The Right” are to be trusted (no-one is) but you go where you find the truth. At least Trump referred to the Deep State. Of course, since he’s “on the Right”, this can be dismissed as “reactionary drivel” As Trump himself probably knows. But it’s true.
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Gosh I can’t argue against the devastating critique of a gif. And the knee jerk laughter means that the propaganda system is working as tightly as ever.
Trumpo The Magnificent is worth his considerable weight in gold, if only for his triggering of all the Little Gretas and Linekers of this world and all the MSM shitlibs.
That could almost excuse the fact that he is just an Arthur Finkelstein Fake Binary of the Uniparty creation who has never and will never keep a single one of his promises, Build The Wall, Jail Crooked Hilary, Bring The Troops Home, Rebuild The Infrastructure.
Except for all the promises and all the Gives to Israel, of course. Has to keep Adelson, Singer and all the Zionist billionaires bankrolling him happy, like a good little shabbos goy.
His arrest today should provide us all with free entertainment for some time to come.
Priceless.
Damn I thought like all the readership of this site had figured out that both American political parties are a joke but judging by the ratio on the likes/dislikes I guess not! Apparently a NY real estate tycoon/TV celebrity (who used to be a Democrat btw!) is gonna save us. Funny meme though.
Your reading of the tea leaves might be somewhat inaccurate. My downvote was to oppose unsubstantiated Trump-bashing, not to support Trump.
Would you oppose unsubstantiated Biden bashing and down vote something? Trump derangement syndrome is real but imo it’s balanced out by his equally stupid supporters. But whatever keep defending Trumps honor I guess?
“But whatever keep defending Trumps honor I guess?”
It’s probably less about “defending Trump’s honor,” than it is simply respecting the truth. There’s enough to criticize trump on without making stuff up.
Fine – defending Trump from slander then. Waste of time IMO and doesn’t serve any truths that are worthwhile.
Telling the truth is virtue enough.
Man how did we even get here lol? The meme is about Trump supporters being irrational – how is that Trump derangement syndrome? It’s just a fact – if you support either the Republicans or Democrats at this point you’re by default in a hypocritical position.
It’s TDS because the MSM still refuses to offer any unbiased reporting on Trump. It’s TDS because the “Left” projects everything it’s doing onto the other side.
I voted for neither Trump nor Biden, but the media’s coverage of Trump has been consistently dishonest as it works to drag him down at every turn, while at the same time avoids any issue that would reflect negatively on Joe Biden. The MSM at this point is essentially a state propaganda organ.
If US electoral politics were a TV show or a movie, everyone would see that.
Turn on Fox they criticize Biden plenty and are also state propoganda. It’s a fake binary. Hate to see that someone who didn’t even vote getting trapped in it.
I voted, but not for either of the “electable” candidates. Sure, it’s a binary, but each of those two candidates did and do represent at least some of the interests of their nominal constituent groups.
American presidential candidates are multimillionaires or billionaires. They represent their interests. Think what their interests might be.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/08/14/heres-the-net-worth-of-every-2020-presidential-candidate/
Some of those candidates don’t become millionaires or billionaires until after leaving office.
Still, tens of millions of people vote for them, with the assumption — naive though it may be — that those candidates should and will represent the interests of their constituents. The candidates appeal to that.
Let’s see Fox cover the stolen election.
Trump supporterevery political cultist.FYP.
Brandon tried repeating that ten times:
“The twisted…the logic…ah, I mean…twisted the logic…ahh, not a Trump supporter…you know what I…mean? They are cute…let me sniff your hair.”
Have you tried conversing with some of Biden’s supporters recently?
Delete Trump, insert Biden, it still works. So what does that tell you?
‘Cause we’re all such groovy Lefties now!
Wasnt aware, you was a convert to Conservative Georgy.
Others have pointed out, your still in bereavement of finding out in 2020 that the left on line that you followed where not that open minded.
Different stages on bereavement/grief.
https://www.verywellmind.com/five-stages-of-grief-4175361
I am sure in anger, you’ll convert to the right as you’ve been gilted. ο»Ώ π ο»Ώ
Eventually you may awaken to the fact, its all rigged,
To be accused of “converting to the right” is the whole scam.
A lot of people think they have great insight, when they don’t know Jack. Not near as fertile as they’d like to believe.
Is this your way of saying you have bizzare pronouns?
The penis has about the same number, proving that Conservatives are Dickheads. Along with most of the βLeftβ
Here we have a rare species, the Comedian. They live among the great herds of comic eunuchs. Tears!
FULL COMEDY SPECIAL | Jim Breuer – ‘Somebody Had to Say It’
I was tempted to post one of those climate memes to my locality, but I know exactly what would happen.
βHow dare you make light of this catastrophe!β
βI never figured you for a Right-Wing Tory Fascist!β
βLook at what The Science says!β (Links to interminable gish gallop)
I already made a light remark about a local guy who has renamed himself with a female name. I said, βHeβs decided heβs non-binaryβ and the boss just turned to me and condescendingly said, βWell I donβt think he decided this, George!β (You know, βcause itβs such a deeply real and fundamental βscientificallyβ validated force weβre talking about here!)
For crissakes, thereβs a former work colleague whose βsonβ has now decided heβs some species of unicorn, posts nothing but pics of his face in garish make-up, complains about all the βhateβ heβs getting, and whose family and friends are clubbing together to heroically raise funds for surgery to transform him. (Into what I donβt know.)
It’s like a kind of merry version of Auschwitz where the inmates eagerly help out with the extermination and all with a cheery βfeel goodβ air and an ocean of virtue signalling.
And all it would take is one inadvisable meme from me and Iβd be consigned to the purgatory of tin-foil conspiracy Far Right Evil.
I only barely managed to get away with that remark to the boss.
Are people really that fucking dumb?
The next level up from you mate.. would say….
If they watch Carlson, Gbnews, U.K shillum, Alex Jones etc etc so yes they’re really that fucking dumb.
Oh dear it appears that the little theatre of Western rotten tomato throwing is getting a bit frayed now that the covid, climate and trans operations have, by their bloody obvious rank stupidity, blown the cover.
QUICK BOYS! We need a whole new army of groovy trolls to corral the plebs back into the pens! Into the theatre designated spots! Come on! Come on!
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Laydeez and gennlemen……..
Aaaaaand in the Right corner we have ….
Big Bad Trump β corporate tycoon and designated New Hitler (Memo: May need to update the Hitler thing. People are getting bored with that!)
GB News: Designated βRight Wingβ loony conspiracy reactionary etc. (This one was so successful we even managed to smear John Cleese as Evil Fascist!)
Tucker Carlson β of course Fox News was always the Right-Wing reactionary whipping boy! Hey and you can feed them any amount of genuine stuff and no-one will believe it β βcause itβs Fox News and Right-Wing and stuff!
Aaaaaand in the Left corner we have ….
Endless reams of Real Groovy Fuckers! Thereβs Stewart Lee! And Billy Bragg! And …
People bleeding for the βTrans Communityβ (Oh you mean all theses little kids waiting to get their internal organs βreassignedβ?)
Weeping for The Dying Planet (βWhere?β βNever mind β like covid and all that, weβll keep the show going on telly!)
Pushing for more vaccines (For what disease? Oh, weβll think of something else soon!)
Lights! Cameras!
But …. wait a minute! Isnβt this designated Left corner just so fucking stupid? Surely folks will suspect?
Oh, donβt worry! We have everyone trained up to react like frogs attached to electrodes! All you have to do is say words like βconservativeβ and βreactionaryβ and this lot will jump into the appropriate showbiz dance!
Action!
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Trump was facing bankruptcy and was bailed out. By whom you ask? A guy named Wilbur Ross. A banker that worked for guess who? ROTHSCHILD. Shortly after this, his properties in Atlantic city had a boom of sales from Russian mobsters laundering money. Wilbur Ross was our Secretary of Commerce, appointed by Trump.
AG Barr is a Bush puppet and also part of the swamp. Ever heard of Jeffrey Epstein and pedophile island? AG Barr when he wasn’t working for the government was in a private law firm that was part of the defense team for Jeffrey Epstein. AG Barr is supporting and pushing Red Flag Laws and Gun Control. AG Barr’s father gave Jeffery Epstein one of his first jobs (That he was not qualified for) and wrote a book called “Space Relations”, about trafficking of human sex slaves.
Jeffery Epstein died in a Federal Facility run by AG Barr’s DOJ. ALL CAMERAS FAILED AND ALL GUARDS FELL ASLEEP. Yet Barr claims to have seen a video, that previously didn’t exist. Give me a break!
Do you know who was the prosecuting attorney for Jeffrey Epstein? Alexander Acosta. He WAS our Secretary of Labor, appointed by Trump.
Then there is Stephen Feinbert who was Intelligence Advisory Board lead for Trump who also has ties to Epstein through DynCorp. DynCorp was indicted for child trafficking in 2008 and 2009.
Steve Manuchin, a swamp creature from skull and bones, was in charge of our economic recovery.
Who introduced Melania to Trump? Ghislane Maxwell and Jeffery Epstein. Who was Melania working for at the time? Victoria’s Secret owned by Les Wexner. Who Gave Jeffery Epstein’s his million dollar mansion? Les Wexner. Who is linked to the Nxivm sex cult? Les Wexner. How close does someone in political power have to be to two of the biggest sex trafficking scandals before it is too close?
Trump is no friend of the 2nd Amendment. He supports Red Flag Laws, as in take the guns now, and due process whenever we get around to it. Appointed a gun control jerk to head the ATF (Thankfully this appointment stalled out). Set legal precedent by allowing the ATF to classify a piece of plastic as a Machine Gun (Bump Stock Ban).
Trump supports 5g. A military grade electronic weapons system that can be turned on large groups of people or individuals. Research Voice of God Weapon.
Trump supports mandatory vaccination. You know those untested and unverified chemical cocktails that kill people randomly.
Trump will not challenge or stop the abuse of Civil Asset Forfeiture, Qualified Immunity or warrantless searches.
Trump supports the implementation of ID2020, Bio-metric ID. This is a pretext for chip implants.
Trump supports the implementation of CBDC and said exactly that at the last G7 Summit he attended.
Trump went to the WEF meeting during his presidency and said that Klause Schwab, AKA Dr. Evil, has great ideas / great man.
$Hitlary is walking around free, while Julian Assange is in prison. Trump praised Wikileaks during his campaign and now can’t be bothered to even discuss Wikileaks.
Then there is Jarred Kushner the Chabad loyalist and d-ck that puts Israel First. You know why there was no border control and the worst illegal immigration ever? Because Trump put his Chabad son in law in charge of immigration policy.
Do you know who was Trump’s biggest campaign contributor? Sheldon Adelson. He put Israel First, always and all the time.
Trump is the one that issued the emergency orders providing the legal provocation for political parasites to enforce lockdown orders and mask mandates. Trump is the one that funded the death jab with the military’s Operation Warp Speed. Trump is the one that gave fake Dr. Fauchi the podium and ear of the masses. Trump pushes the death jab and kisses the rear end of big pharma at rallies .
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE DRAINING THE SWAMP AND PUTTING AMERICA FIRST?
Trump and his entire cabinet were Zionist sh-t heads that don’t give a f-ck about anyone but themselves. Trump is just the face man that makes you think it is all ok.
Wake the $#%^ up and stop suffering from the cult of personality.
Government will never save you from government.
We need to all realize that when Trump gave the speech about the snake, he was talking about himself.
AND NO, I DO NOT SUPPORT BRANDON, THE OTHER BANKER BOSS PUPPET POS.
I dare you to try and refute these facts.
I don’t think George would argue with one fact you’ve pointed out here. What George is doing is making fun at the fake divide and the people who think it is real. That divide is the circus, the idiocy that keeps both sides distracted while we are all robbed blind.
I am going to keep your list though, for the next time I talk to my neighbor who still somehow, after ALL we have talked about, thinks we were “better off under Trump.” People know deep down this shit is fake as hell, but they cannot let go of the old patterns.
It’s like covid that way – there are people who will totally agree the whole thing was a psyop, the whole thing is indeed about wealth and power consolidation, and that the MSM lies shamelessly. Then those same people will turn around and say “did you hear so and so has covid?” Where is that emoji thing that beats its head to a pulp and then rises back up to do it again and again when you need it?
Nice try, Liz. But I can still hear him screaming at his Trump dartboard in the toilet.
Hypocrite.
Like your left wsws dartboard ο»Ώ π€ ο»Ώ, that you’ve been boring us with for 3 years solid.
Broken record George.
If anyone suffers from Derangement Syndrome it is you.
Pot calling the kettle black.
So how’s things with you Dunnie? Sneaking back in under various pseudonyms?
that wsws remark is spot on dude! regardless anything else, NB
you seem to have gotten over it recently ; )
I’m guesing that this is what the fabled “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is all about. Just mention “Trump” and …. ooops too late, there goes Thomas spinning off tasmanian devil like gibbering with the lists – always the lists!
Hmm….
Some cold water? Immersion in a vat of ice? Lots of tranquilizers ….
Wait a couple of hours ….
And Trump – uh no, off he goes again screaming froth into the stratosphere …..
Well I guess I’ll just have to leave a message for when he calms down.
Here’s how it works – the moment you start your Trump bashing or you BoJo bashing or whatever, you are implicitly saying that there is another side i.e. those groovy Lefties over there. Crap!
And yes I am perfectl aware that Trump etc. are full of shit but we already know that!
Once you’ve figued out the phony Left, there’s no point in playing the screaming match game anymore.
So – we wait patiently whilst Thomas continues to gibber into the ages.
You obviously didn’t read the post to the end and where I make it clear that I do not support the other side. Also everything listed is fact, not baseless assertions.
That you assume anyone criticizing one or the other, must support the other, says you are the one still trapped in the false binary.
I am well aware of the Uniparty and that they are two doors that lead to the same slaughterhouse and two wings of the same predator bird.
If they listen to you, yes.
Yes. I can confirm that people are that dumb. My pronouns are … Oh god.
Mine are, “Sweet Lord”…
Hail, brother!
Don’t worry, in the US, they only cut off the skin on the end of your dick as routine procedure when you are born. Doesn’t matter what color you like best…Hang in there…
Well, times have changed; now they want the whole thing.
Easier, and cheaper to wear a ‘kick me’ sign. But anyhow, also a possible case of schizoid personality disorder where the gender dysphoric is saying “my gender missfortune is worse than yours and this is the only way I can get the attention I crave”.
I don’t recall a single televised collapse before the vax.
Allow me to enlighten youβ¦
https://youtu.be/3OdBribqoX0
Were you voluntarily clot shot ?
You think that because I point out obvious untruths then I likely had the vaccine? You should really address that self-imposed bias as it will limit your capability to identify truth.
Not had a vaccine since I was a kid. When I had no autonomy, or common sense.
In early doors, the people falling in the streets in China or Italy etc are proven lies.
Why do you think the controlled opposite is real. ?
Because the likes of aj showed the videos.?
fuck me, wheres james, sorry i mean jennifer lawrence when you need her?
Which celeb weirdo is this?
Megan Fox (Fox meaning Devil = deceptive)
his girlfriend is Machine Gun Kelly
Inversion on the mass’s who follow idols.
I don’t know of her so don’t care either way, but another possibility is that she has thyroid issues. Funny that, since I was lamenting to my daugher weeks ago that my enlarged thyroid might get me some rash judgments in these crazy days. By the same token, back when her father and I were dating, we attended the movie “Crying Game” during which I assured him that the lady character was most certainly a dude, going by his adam’s apple. We didn’t remain for the grand reveal.
No you are just hateful and fucking ridiculous.
Pointing out the ridiculous using memes is not hateful. It’s satire – one of the very few tools we have left.
Haven’t you heard? We don’t do satire anymore. Satire is simply too close to the line of hate, no matter if it’s making direct fun at the hateful or not. To even utter a hateful phrase, or a hateful image, as part of satire is bad and should be cancelled.
That’s where we have arrived today. I guess to get satire one must be able to think in a more nuanced manner, and that’s just no longer allowed. Besides, pointing out the ridiculous today is just one more way to dissent from the all pervasive idiocy, so pointing out said ridiculous idiocy is another bad, bad thing that no one should ever engage in.
I guess that’s like that whole emperor is wearing no clothes thingy? It’s not nice to point that out even if it is true.
You don’t even have to be satirical to “cause harm” with simple and reasonable words such as “women are not men”.
so you enjoy seeing women get battered by men? as a woman?
Was funny though.
The level of transphobia in this country is simply dreadful.
Let Emily play!
“Put on a gown that touches the ground, float down the river, for ever and ever, Emily.”
This got deleted the last time I posted on here.
oops! you sexist b.s. is showing. you must be an old man. men have tattoos. when younger generations say “die boomer” they are thinking of men like you.
How utterly vile
A sentence with two meanings.
Looks like a nice girl to me. All her tattoos are spelled right.
Stereotypes, wow!!!.
I do try not to be critical of others humour and prejudices, but please!!.
Never mind the fact that body art is part of an ancient and in many cultures a deeply spiritual adornment.
It is that you would insult a whole section of fellow humans in such a way and degrade them as if they are lesser and inferior that I find so sad.
Sorry Kathy, but that young woman is not posed like she’s ready to give a TED talk on ancient cultures and tattoos as spiritual adornment.
Sorry Martha, but the point Kathy was making is the stereotype that has nothing to do with the particular woman pictured. Not all young women with tattoos are raging sluts, that was the point…..
But all women with tattoos are dumb. That’s a fact.
Cringe
Sorry Martha but just because she may have wanton sex with abandon in her spare time does not mean she couldn’t also be a lecturer in anthropology specialising in tribal body art.
What crap, ancient cultures wouldn’t have Amy Winehouse inspired dog shit tattooed on them.
This latest crap isnt body art, more like Istagram look at me I need attention.
You’ve been mind fuckd by David Beckham and culture transformers like them.
to normalize tek into the body is the next stage,
exactly. the tattoo cult are fukt in the head (i don’t mean sailors and bikers and assorted criminals), just those fukn normie eejits who sooked up beckham and italian footballers/celebs like it was granny’s finest soup.
and were so individual that they’d never thought to get a tatt until they saw all these celebrities get them…. sigh
i know dozens of them.. they all worship joe rogan and sargon of akkad, etc e.g.
or are empowered bitches, oops, sorry, real women…
lol
fucking tattoos, ffs
Nae Pict had a mandalay.
all part of the needle-philia. they’ll suck it all up as you say.
Fashion victim hood is an irritation isn’t it. After all it only applies to those following their idols in the herd mentality. Obviously bikers criminals and sailors are different though!!!!!.
It’s not always so easy to determine.
There is an old saying (never judge a book by its cover).
Criminals, bikers and sailors earn their tats. Often, there is a ritual or initiation involved, a sacrifice. Sometimes, one’s place in the group determines the type of tattoo one is allowed to have. They further identify those marked as members of a particular group. Other tattoos are used as a brand, a mark of ownership. The vast majority of modern tattoo culture is conformist, IMO, and I’ve never seen anyone made more attractive or interesting by having one. There’s another old saying: “what you see is what you get.”
That being said, people are entitled to make their own choices regarding them.
I think you miss my point, I am fully aware of biker culture but it is just as much about a tribal identity. There is a conformity within this as there is in those who choose to tattoo themselves to conform within, as you put it a normie culture.
My point with all of this though is that the above meem links several things together and dehumanises a particular type of woman.
it is easy to pick on a particular group, person/sex then judge them find them lacking and denegrate them. Derogitery and sexually judgemental meems may be hilarious for some but not for me.
I have over my years on earth known people of all walks of life including some women who would fit into this narrow meems catagory. But I see their humanity. I would choose to protect them and not scorn or ridicule them. I see just like me, people who get by and who have in some instances survived against all the odds and all the shitty cards dealt to them. I want to see beyond the outer protective layer and find the caring, intelligent beautiful soul within. This meem annoys me because we don’t all conform to stereotypes. Women who get tattooed and are hyper sexulised are not subhuman, hazerdous or in my eyes objects of ridicule.
This makes me humourless of this particular meem. This to me is part of the original devide and rule, pitting the sexes and their sexuality against each other.
Yes people have tattoos for many different reasons. Some girls have many tattoos and engage in risky or rampent sexual behavior, as do some men. Is this reason to dehumanise them though. There may be many reasons for their in some cases extreme behavior. Child sex abuse being one of them. At this point their tattoos may be seen by and for them as just as validly ritualistic if not more so as a biker having been initiated as a 1 percenter.
ow please.
this guy tats are fuckign dreadful.
All fair points.
aye okay, fair point,
but you completely ignore the legions of fashionistas.. sad as fuck.
that was my point, moron horde.
stop making excuses for a fukt-up society. tatts are a mere show of times. fukt up.
I come from Pictland by the way, see how we got our name.
Yet I remain tatt-less. warpaint is one thing, body abuse is another. Any piercing to go, lol
and i am not anti-tatt, just anti-moron fashion.
; )
yet we all do, unless we know the author.
utter cliche.
Well it seems to me that it ls you who may need to consider the nature of crap. If within your own mind, you cannot get past a narrow and base view of tattooing and by this denigrate all body art to that of, as you so eloquently say (Amy Winehouse dogs shit). This then by association dismisses the many many different cultural and spiritual aspects of this ancient art form.
If body art triggers an association with porn hub with some. Is this a classic case of crap in crap out. Oh but let’s blame the girl for being easy, dirty, unwholesome, ooh yuk tattoos.
I am pointing out the stereotyping and subhumaning within the above meme, of which you have just doubled down on. But you also now choose to insult me by suggesting I may have allowed myself to have been mind fucked by David Beckham. This I can very much assure you is, has and would never happen.
Adorning ones own body is not a gateway into the normalisation of tec implants either.
One curiosity to me is how a behaviour that has previously largely been practiced by various underground and non-mainstream groups, criminals, prisoners, slaves, prostitutes, circus freaks, etc, can be embraced so whole-heartedly by the mainstream. There’s a tattoo parlor at the local mall; you can’t get anymore lame than that. Whatever “cool” factor of “rebellion” there might have been is gone.
It says something about the collective mindset. Searching for something, a people lost…
exactly.
Kathy it was meme, chill out.
Hahaha! Pure dead brilliant!
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Hey girls tattoo up and be like all the other tatted morons. It’s individualistic and cool!
Why has this become a girl thing? Donβt boys have tattoos too?
Please donβt post this anymore. Itβs off-topic, school-boy sexism, clearly intended to be controversial, nothing more. Not up to your usual standard.
In my experience, those enjoying these sorts of things havenβt found a single woman βeasy to enterβ throughout most of their lives, or theyβre the sort of sheltered chauvinists who visited a prostitute once, or a strip club, or watched a hardcore pornographic performance video, and didnβt realise the joke was on them.
There are plenty of 13 y/os (or 30 y/o incels with a mental age of 13) who love this stuff, and plenty of outlets to post it.
But not here. If itβs all the same. Thank you. A2
Memes are a manifestation par excellence of the present-day idiocy that pervades this world, whereof this fucking meme is the perfect case in point.
Communism was an extreme manifestation of the collectivist ideologies of 19th-20th centuries that arose from the way workers were oppressed under early capitalism. In its core, however misguided, utopian, and implemented by violent means, communism was a noble concept in that it aspired to establish (economic) freedom for all. It was a failure, for various reasons, not least of which were the ideology’s inherent flaws.
Great Resettism, on the contrary, is a malevolent technocratic scheme intended to subjugate the population in a top-down manner. There is nothing noble about it, perhaps excluding the fact that it would be conducive to reducing the malign consumerism and the underlying plundering of resources.
The author of this meme is a fucking idiot and, sorry to say, so is everybody who propagates fallacious shit like this.
stand out the funniest thing i have read all day, i read your earlier assertations to self sufficiency….but when we say self sufficiency we mean more than a laptop, pixelated princesses and a roll of toilet paper, have a nice day :0)
Still not questioning:
1) Why Marx’s best buddy was a factory owner.
2) Why a woman from an aristocratic bloodline chose to marry him and stuck with him despite his lack of prospects and often poor treatment of her.
3) Why institutions like the Daily Telegraph employed him.
4) Why British law enforcement was so tolerant of his presence in London.
5) Why Marx’s final stage of the state “withering away” but the continued “administration of things” looks suspiciously like technocracy without using the name.
And your counter-evidence is that you can see into Marx’s soul and know his intentions were “noble”?
The fallacy you’re committing consists of reducing the entire collectivist ideology of the past several centuries to some anecdotal facts concerning one man, however important he might have been in formulating the ideology’s tenets.
The ideology itself is inherently sound in allowing people to exercise their collective power vis-a-vis oppressor and you, like everybody in the West (and possibly beyond), have benefited from it throughout your life.
I don’t know why some woman chose to marry fucking Marx. He might have been a charismatic man with a long fat dick and fucked her real good. What the fuck do I know and care.
Your modus operandi is to look for pieces of evidence, however minute, suggesting that “there is a plot behind” and exclaiming “nothing to see there”. Tiresome. You know what? There probably is a fucking plot behind most of shit.
Does communism, in the way it was practices in the Second World, look like technocracy? Maybe in a way. In essence, communism also eliminated the political class in that only one political movement was permitted. But technocracy is different – it rejects the concept of politics, i.e. ideologies behind public affairs, altogether (that’s not the case with communism), and runs things exclusively on “expertise”.
The missing link is not expertise, but science.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_communism
The scientific re-education of a society is the goal of Marxism, because ‘by nature’ societies are formed bottom-up, i.e. starting from family groups. Scientific communism, however, requires an amorphous and arbitrarily controllable mass. This coincides with the interests of the 4IR, which in future will use people only as batteries.
What do you mean, batteries …?
obviously curt, the german means artillery….
The German means energy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix
with your all encompassing sense of humour.. ? ffs
; )
The problem for 4IR is energy. Who produces energy? Humans.
newspunch.com/wef-declare-humans-who-wish-to-live-must-become-batteries-for-ai/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/newspunch.com/wef-declare-humans-who-wish-to-live-must-become-batteries-for-ai/amp/
You can stop ranting. There are no “inherently sound” ideologies. Marx reduced human beings to “workers”.
Do you want to be a worker?
Communism is based on materialism and as such was guaranteed to lead to misery and destruction.
“And your counter-evidence is that you can see into Marxβs soul and know his intentions were βnobleβ?”
No *******; I read his books.
It’s an established fact anti commies haven’t read what they think and pretend they’ve read.
Yes and daresay even among those who agree with Marx’ ideas, there is yet a lot to do in terms of reading this profound thinker. It isn’t an easy reading and I say this as someone who also is just beginning to acquaint himself with his thoughts.
If you know the books of Marx, you surely will be able to cite 1 or 2 statements which proves the philantropic intentions of Mr. Marx.
As for being able to elaborate on Marx’s thoughts on different subjects, I’m. Nevertheless, I don’t have to for the burden of proof or elaboration – which is so obviously lacking – is on the poster who is making some claims which isn’t clear if they represent any indication of wrongdoing against which those acquainted with Marx’s thought – or maybe Marx himself – have to defend themselves. Marx marrying a bourgeois girl, making friends of bankers and businessmen, his relationship with the security forces, etc. WTF? Is there any wrongdoing in any of these claims, even if true? But let me add one additional item that’ll make Mr. Edwige even happier : Marx praised the bourgeoisie for their role in the advancement of societies, he understood the role Capital was fulfilling in the march of History. I hope you’re satisfied now. Some people think that those agitating against Capital, tried to understand it, elaborated a philosophy of History, and so on must as a corollary live outside society in some tent, shouldn’t have a job within capitalism, must therefore be condemned to starve, and certainly must have friends only among the working class. WTF?????? I’m a communist; does that mean I must starve or I shouldn’t make friends of bankers or some rich people? Are you f****** serious? What the f*** are you on, Mr. Edwige? If that’s your understanding of what Communism is and what does it mean to be a communist, you’re completely wrong and my suggestion is to read the authors themselves.
As for my reluctance to cite anything or go in much details about Mr. Edwige’s post, this is one of the two threads I’ve participated in some weeks ago on this forum on an identical topic, against Mr. Placental_Mammal who was making almost identical claims about Marx. Needless to say, Mr. Placental_Mammal didn’t reply to any of my lengthy elaborations contenting himself/herself of downvoting me (well, I suppose it was him/her), and continued to make the same statements ever since, to which I’ve obviously desisted to intervene on, just like I’m certain it shall occur with Mr. Edwige.
https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/22/the-war-on-insensitivity/#comment-581818
Communists have no enemies of flesh and blood; we are against the State, not the government; against the wage system, not employers; against the monetary system, not financiers, against banks, not bankers; against Capital not capitalists; against a way of living, not its human cogs.
But to believe that “Communists” are the enemies of Capitalists strengthens or maybe gave birth to the idea of a really existing Communism facing Capitalist countries since there does exist two blocks of countries politically opposed, or at least so they declare themselves (typically, USA vs URSS while the latter lasted).
Bourgeois (the class that gave the dominant ideas that are ruling the civilised world) institutions are in every civilised country and thus Capital, though in its latest stages, is ruling the world.
Regarding the transition from Capitalist to Communist society mentioned by Edwige, anyone can read the “Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875, in which Marx delves in the matter.
Just to add that no one should take Marx or any other thinker as the owner of truth; and Marx’s writing are very far from a dogma with beliefs, rules and axioms, duties and prohibitionds; they are long letters, long texts, essays, speeches given at various occasions, and so on, and in which interrogation marks, expressions of doubt are not uncommon.
Much words, no content.
I can understand your appreciation.
Reply is in pending…
A useful introduction to Marx for beginners:
Marx. Prophet of Darkness – Richard Wurmbrand (1986)
https://archive.org/details/wurmbrand-richard-marx-prophet-of-darkness
Sorry Vagabard, how about reading Marx himself?
It is evident that the terms “Marxism”, “Communism”, “Socialism”, “Capitalism”, “Liberalism”, “Individualism”, “Political Economy”, and so on… are at the heart of political and ideological conflicts for power which make them objects of manipulation and tergiversations everywhere, more reason to go to the sources.
A fair point. Accepted. Can’t really condemn a man (or otherwise), without first hearing him out
Surly you know ‘Oulanem’, Mr. Marx early prove of talent?
In “Oulanem” Marx does the same as the devil. He sends the whole human race to perdition. He wants to shatter the whole world through his curse. “Oulanem” is perhaps the only drama in the world in which all the characters are aware of their own depravity, show it openly and celebrate it with conviction. There is no black and white in this drama. There is no Claudius and Ophelia, Iago and Desdemona. Here, all are black and all fulfil aspects of Mephisto. All are satanic, corrupt and damned.(Robert Payne, Marx, W. H. Allen, London, 1968)
At that time Marx was 19. He was young, but a premature genius. The programme of his life was already fixed. There was no question of serving humanity, the proletariat or socialism. He wanted to bring the world to ruin.
1) Marx can’t stop someone owning something. I am quite the Irish republican but I am good friends with multiple Protestants.
2) women are strange creatures
3) he was a journalist and even back then they allowed more free speech than today and on top of that many people even back then knew capitalism is constantly crashing and failing. Doesn’t mean they were commies. Plus he was used for opinion pieces. Not as an editorial standard
4) the Brits tolerate a lot of things. They also had him under surveillance. That skipped you on by.
5) withering away of the state would still in the end need the PEOPLE to administer things not bizarre Bourgeois Institutions.
The UK gave Russia a model for secular rule when Peter the Great met William of Orange (I think in London). A lesson on how to control the Church as a voice of opposition.
So it would be fitting for it to have subsequently played a role in further secularisation via Marx
Any friend of Groucho is a friend of mine.
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Awful album.
Itβs perfectly possible for people who are factory owners and members of aristocratic bloodlines to despise the system they are part of and to critique it. Indeed, they are in the best (even the only) position to critique it.
As for why the Daily Telegraph and British law enforcement employed/tolerated him, this is one of those βstrange thingsβ that are only strange in hindsight. Marxβs work and name did not carry the weight of disapprobation then as it does now.
Marxβs entire project was a critique of capitalism. He emphasised the unknowability of future societies since there had to be engagement from all the citizenry.
So, there is no evidence there to counter β other, of course, than Marx killing his wife and eating his children.
His third cousin was Lord Lionel R. He was related to the Philips and the Samuels.
> The author of this meme is a fucking idiot and, sorry to say, so is everybody who propagates fallacious shit like this.
Amen!
Down vote all you want, children – I. Don’t. Fing. Care.
Neither do we, really.
Just sending a couple of farts in your general direction…
Child.
Communism was equally top-down imposed. Which is why Russia ended up with a ruthless dictatorship (Stalin et al) rather than a collectivist paradise. Instead of a workers’ utopia, it instead got the decimation of its middle class and the destruction of its Churches.
So what went wrong (or ‘right’ from the perspective of those in power)?
Lenin skillfully painted a picture of the popular uprising, but it wasn’t true. The ideas for revolution were first fomented within the Russian intelligentsia and then imposed from abroad (Lenin/Marx/Trotsky et al).
Which is why the Commies subsequently wiped out the intelligentsia post-Revolution – to break the obvious link. And which is also why Boris Pasternak’s Doctor Zhivago was banned, since Doctor Zhivago was symbolic of the last of the intellgentsia.
The intelligentsia’s goal had been to overthrow the excessively germanised Tsardom/Empire. Which in sense they achieved. Only to end up with another German’s (Marx’s) version of atheistic dialectic materialism instead.
Dostoevksy had foreshadowed the rise of the murderer Stalin in The Brothers Karamazov, with his parricidal character Smerdyakov. A character, who having no ideas of his own (consider Stalin’s great dearth of writings), takes his ideas from another (atheistic brother Ivan) and then puts them into action.
Russia already had a concept of togetherness in sobornost (where ‘catholic’ is rendered in Western creeds). It had no need of any other:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobornost
State capitalism is capitalism, not communism.
What is communism without a state? World Government.
What is the name of the Communist anthem? The Internationale.
Are you implying that a government can exist without a State? Can a government (which implies a high degree of centralisation) still deserve its name without the infrastructure of buildings, ministries, offices, hierarchies, divisions of labour, coordinated chains of command, agencies, departments, the various ranks and grades of its officials? Even within a society with highly advanced technology, what is a group of people stripped from the necessary means of elaborating and coordinating their action? Well, just a group of people.
Yes. What are the factors of power? Possession? No. Power is the ‘right’ to use anything at will. The ‘right’ is ultimately based on the ability to threaten others with evil.
That’s why the mafia is more powerful than the pizza maker who has to pay them.
That’s how world government works. Like the UN
FYI a State is an organisation existing alongside human society. Are you sure the UN is not an organisation with localised headquarters, division of labor, hierarchy, bureaucracy, and the rest of it? Doesn’t the Mafia need some sort of infrastructure, safe places for meetings, task assignment, and coordination? That’s by definition what a State is, as opposed to the people that fill it (e.g. government, general assembly,…)
The people who fill it without any sort of organizing themselves will be – what??
Helpless.
State doesn’t exist in communism.
There’s theory, and then there’s practice.
What is a world government if not a world state? π
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Yes. What are the factors of power? Possession? No. Power is the βrightβ to use anything at will. The βrightβ is ultimately based on the ability to threaten others with evil.
Thatβs why the mafia is more powerful than the pizza maker who has to pay them.
Thatβs how world government works. Mafia. Like the UN.
Capitalism, communism…they both end up at the same place, with the vast majority of the wealth in the hands of a select, elite few, and used for their interests.
That’s just capitalism.
Maybe then there could be society living without the -isms and making their own rules?
There are always rules.
especially amongst those who say otherwise. trait of the liar. beware. all them hippy-commune-cooperative-collective fucking fake muthafuckas. Most of them seem to be (english) upper class “retired” types…. civil servants/abusers or academia/freaks. you will bend before their “freedoms”. or not be welcome.
someone who tells you outright that there are “rules”, is probably more worth listening too, just to know where you are.
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… I mean without -isms and with own rules. Srry,
You should read what I wrote in its entirety and try to understand the gist of it, rather than looking for anything, no matter how stupid or inconsequential, to put a dent in it.
I’m sure you could find lots of similarities between communism and great resettism, both the underlying ideologies and actual implementations thereof, but that doesn’t mean that they’re the same.
The underlying idea of socialism/communism is using collective power to achieve equality.
The underlying idea of great resettism is corralling, culling, and enslaving people in expectation of the forthcoming scarcity of energy and consequently resources and consequently shit to consume.
Kindly put your head the fuck around this and stop pestering me with fucking Dr. Zhivago.
At this point in our regular sessions, Kurt, I would recommend a good fuck.
You’re getting tense.
Ha ha …
Buddy, I get that regularly in quite large quantities. I might be missing playing music though, not doing a whole lot of that these days.
You’re right, I think I went a bit over the line in the above comment.
Anyways, I’m happy that an informed discussion has developed about the above issue, instead of the idiotically meaningless implied equation of communism and technocracy as per the above meme.
Edwige has compiled evidence that shows that the inventor of communism was a bourgeois, deeply rooted in his upper class, without any real experience of real work, who developed concepts of how others should live. This evidence is enough to view the man and his gospel with deep suspicion, at the very least.
OK, that’s an ad hominem fallacy, but I’m game. You imply that he had ulterior motives.
What exactly were they?
The only thing I can think of is creating a flawed collectivist ideology with a view to discrediting collectivism and thus preventing people from exercising their collective power and achieving economic equality and thus preventing the elite from maintaining their superior status. Considering that the process would span over decades if not centuries with numerous, highly powerful variables at play, and an infinite number of things that could go awry, I consider this idea pure phantasmagoria.
You know what? My grandfather was from a very affluent family, yet he chose to be a communist. A prominent journalist. Died fighting in the Resistance during WWII. Why? He must have considered it good cause. Maybe Marx was like that too, what the fuck do we know.
The communist ideology is a sound concept in the historical context. The bottom line is that likening what’s happening today to communism is anachronistic and endlessly useless.
Or are there any lessons that can be drawn from the communist debacle and Marx’s allegedly underhanded role in it vis-a-vis today’s situation? Do tell, I’m all ears.
You interpret. I am not talking about Marx’s motive but about the fact that he threw concepts of life at people he did not know, while he did not find particularly happy concepts for his own life. I am talking about responsibility that he did not take on, and about the encroachment of telling others how to live.
It is not particularly surprising that in his search for a suitable guardian for the proles, he met entrepreneurs like Engels (or Schwab) and considered them entitled and capable of enacting the earthly paradise. He had several predecessors in this, including deSade, who explains the island paradise of Tamoe in Aline et Vancour.
I don’t know your grandfather, what are you trying to say? That he was a brave man BECAUSE he believed in Marx? If he had believed in anything else, he would still have been what he is. You construct causality out of misconceived loyalty.
In regard to my grandfather, I’m saying that his background didn’t prevent him from pursuing a cause that might seem highly improbable vis-a-vis his status. Just like what is alleged about Marx.
The whole point of all my remarks regarding the above meme is that it constitutes the fallacy of false analogy.
Idiotic memes as the one above are superficial hints are some aspects of certain issues that put people’s brains to sleep instead of having a discussion akin to the one that’s developed here.
I DO NOT WANT to discuss Marx, I really see no point. Once again, I see no lessons to be learned from communist history that would be applicable to today, and I couldn’t give two shits about Marx himself.
You CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE based on past events.
It’s ok if you don’t want to discuss Marx. No reason to try to prevent others from doing so. No one is obliged to follow your preferences, maybe you should learn that.
It is noble of your grandfather to so unselfishly support foreign causes. Unfortunately, I cannot contribute an analogous heroic story, because I come from a real proletarian family that had to worry not about concepts but about housing and food for itself and the extended family and about not being sterilised or killed as inferior by the Nazis.
Enough ad hominem. I don’t like bragging about family stories. But your disinterested hero grandfather begins to get on my nerves, sorry.
Your prerogative to obdurately choose not to understand any of the aforesaid.
There are zillions of other examples of people who did this, that, and the other fucking thing that diametrically contrasted what you’d expect from them based on their background.
It’s ultimately ad hominem fallacious to discount an argument not because of the person himself, but because of YOUR PROJECTION of what the person should be and what stance he should maintain.
In other words, you say – I think that Marx should harbor a certain kind of ideas. He didn’t. Therefore, his ideas are wrong, fallacious, underhanded, whatever.
Can you see the ultimate stupidity in that?
FFS, argue about the ideology, its tenets, its flaws, stuff like that, not why some woman married Marx. As I said, maybe they had a really good time in bed. Who gives a shit!
That’s a pretty twisted accusation that I can’t even comprehend. You love your grandfather, I understood.
I, on the other hand, can’t stand saturated people associated with elites who tell the poor how to live.
The Holy Bible of Marx is the attempt to enslave people while feeling philantropic. No reason for the poor to learn his sermon or to care about the inflated ideas from am clear asshole.
You always deny books, as long as they are religious, and you claim to read Marx. It is ridiculous. Even if you have the opinion, that the earth and the universe is not made by God, it is sure, that holy Marx was not the inventor.
This is his only outlet for free use of 4-letter words.
Well ok. Expressed like that then there’s a sharp contrast between the two ideologies.
Though ‘equality’ is a bit ambiguous. Its definition would need tightening up somewhat, since people are rarely (if ever) equal .
OK, man.
Sure they’re not. That’s in fact one of the intrinsic flaws of the communist ideology. They took collectivism too far. The welfare state, which incorporated both collectivist and individualist aspects was much better a take on the general collectivist ideology.
Water under the bridge now. The world is facing a different predicament today.
That’s a damn accurate, and informative, comment.
the constant screaming of “communism” or “commie” is so overused and most of these archie bunkers have never read karl marx. they just parrot some ding dong on t.v.