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A Message to Donald Rumsfeld’s Ghost About My Known Knowns

Edward Curtin

On February 12, 2002 at a Pentagon news conference, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was asked by Jim Miklaszewski, the NBC Pentagon correspondent, if he had any evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was supplying them to terrorists.

Rumsfeld delivered a famous non-answer answer and said:

Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.

When he was pressed by Jamie McIntyre, CNN’s Pentagon correspondent, to answer the question about evidence, he continued to talk gobbledygook, saying, “I could have said that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, or vice versa.”

He never said he had evidence, because he didn’t.

Rumsfeld, who enjoyed his verbal games, was the quintessential bullshitter and liar for the warfare state.  This encounter took place when Rumsfeld and his coconspirators were promoting lie after lie about the attacks of September 11, 2001 and conflating false stories about an alliance between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden in order to build a case to wage another war against Iraq, in order to supplement the one in Afghanistan and the war on “terror” that they launched post September 11 and the subsequently linked anthrax attacks.

A year later on February 5, 2003, US Secretary of State Colin Powell went before the UN Security Council and in a command performance assured the world that the U.S. had solid evidence that Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction,” repeating that phrase seventeen times as he held up a stage prop vial of anthrax to make his point.

He said, “My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources — solid sources. These are not assertions. What we’re giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.”

He was lying, but to this very day his defenders falsely claim he was the victim of an “intelligence failure,” a typical deceitful excuse along with “it was a mistake.”  Of course, Iraq did not have “weapons of mass destruction” and the savage war waged on Iraq was not a mistake.

Scott Ritter, the former Marine U.N. weapons inspector,  made it very clear back then that there was no evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but his expertise was dismissed, just as his current analysis of the war in Ukraine is.  See his recent tweet about Senator Diane Feinstein in this regard:

Thirteen months after Rumsfeld’s exchange in the news conference, the United States invaded Iraq on March 19, 2003, knowing it had no justification.  It was a war of aggression.  Millions died as a result.  And none of the killers have been prosecuted for their massive war crimes.  The war was not launched on mistaken evidence; it was premeditated and based on lies easy to see.  Very, very easy to see.

On January 28, 2003, eleven days before Powell performance, I, an independent writer, wrote a newspaper Op Ed, “The War Hoax,” saying:

The Bush administration has a problem: How to start a war without having a justifiable reason for one. No doubt they are working hard to solve this urgent problem.  If they can’t find a justification, they may have to create one. Or perhaps they will find what they have already created […] Yet once again, the American people are being played for fools, by the government and the media. The open secret, the insider’s fact, is that the United States plans to attack Iraq in the near future. The administration knows this, the media knows it, but the Bush scenario, written many months ago, is to act as if it weren’t so, to act as if a peaceful solution were being seriously considered…Don’t buy it.

Only one very small regional Massachusetts newspaper, the North Adams Transcript, was willing to publish the piece.

I mention this because I think it has been very obvious for a very long time that the evidence for United States’ crimes of all sorts has been available to anyone who wished to face the truth.  It does not take great expertise, just an eye for the obvious and the willingness to do a little homework.

Despite this, I have noticed that journalists and writers on the left have continued to admit that they were beguiled by people such as Bill and Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joseph Biden, con men all.  I do not mean writers for the mainstream press, but those considered oppositional.

Many have, for reasons only they can answer, put hope in these obvious charlatans, and some prominent ones have refused to analyze such matters as the JFK assassination, September 11th, or Covid-19, to name a few issues.  Was it because they considered these politicians and matters known unknowns, even when the writing was on the wall?

Those on the right have rolled with Reagan, the Bushes, and Trump in a similar manner, albeit for different reasons.  It causes me to shake my head in amazement.  When will people learn?  How long does it take to realize that all these people are part of a vast criminal enterprise that has been continuously waging wars and lying while raking in vast spoils for the military-industrial complex.  There is one party in the U.S. – the War Party.

If you have lived long enough, as have I, you reach a point when you have, through study and the accumulation of evidence, arrived at a long list of known knowns.  So with a backhand slap to Donald Rumsfeld, that long serving servant of the U.S. war machine, I will list a very partial number of my known knowns in chronological order.  Each could be greatly expanded.

There is an abundance of easily available evidence for all of them – nothing secret – but one needs to have the will for truth and do one’s homework.

All of these known knowns are the result of US deep state conspiracies and lies, aided and abetted by the lies of mass corporate media.

My Known Knowns:

  • The U.S. national security state led by the CIA assassinated President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. This is The foundational event for everything that has followed.  It set the tone and sent the message that deep state forces will do anything to wage their wars at home and abroad.  They killed JFK because he was ending the war against Vietnam, the Cold War, and the nuclear arms race.
  • Those same forces assassinated Malcolm X fourteen months later on February 21, 1965 because he too had become a champion of peace, human rights, and racial justice with his budding alliance with Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Such an alliance of these two black leaders posed too great a threat to the racist warfare state.  This conspiracy was carried out by the Nation of Islam, the New York Police Department, and U.S. intelligence agencies.
  • The Indonesian government’s slaughter of more than one million mainly poor rice farmers in 1965-6 was the result of a scheme planned by ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles, whom JFK had fired. It was connected to Dulles’s role in the assassination of JFK, the CIA-engineered coup against Indonesian President Sukarno, his replacement by the dictator Suharto, and his mass slaughter ten years later, starting in December 1975.  The American-installed Indonesian dictator Suharto, after meeting with Henry Kissinger and President Ford and receiving their approval, would slaughter hundreds of thousands East-Timorese with American-supplied weapons in a repeat of the slaughter of more than a million Indonesians in 1965.
  • In June of 1967, Israel, a purported ally of the U.S., attacked and destroyed the Egyptian and Syrian armies, claiming falsely that Egypt was about to attack Israel. This was a lie that was later admitted by former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech he gave in 1982 in Washington, D.C.  Israel annexed the West Bank and Gaza and still occupies the Golan Heights as well.  In June 1967, Israel also attacked and tried to sink the U.S. intelligence gathering ship the U.S. Liberty, killing 34 U.S. sailors and wounding 170 others.  Washington covered up these intentional murders to protect Israel.
  • On April 4, 1968, these same intelligence forces led by the FBI, assassinated Martin Luther King, Jr. in Memphis, Tennessee. He was not shot by James Earl Ray, the officially alleged assassin, but by a hit man who was part of another intricate government conspiracy.  King was killed because of his work for racial and human rights and justice, his opposition to the Vietnam War, and his push for economic justice with the Poor People’s Campaign.
  • Two months later, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, on his way to the presidency, was also assassinated by deep state intelligence forces in another vastly intricate conspiracy. He was not killed by Sirhan Sirhan, who was a hypnotized patsy standing in front of RFK. He was assassinated by a CIA hit man who was standing behind him and shot him from close range.  RFK, also, was assassinated because he was intent on ending the war against Vietnam, bringing racial and economic justice to the country, and pursuing the assassins of his brother John.
  • The escalation of the war against Vietnam by Pres. Lyndon Johnson was based on the Tonkin Gulf lies. It’s savage waging by Richard Nixon for eight years was based on endless lies.  These men were war criminals of the highest order.  Nixon’s 1968 election was facilitated by the “October Surprise” when South Vietnam withdrew from peace negotiations to end the war.  This was secretly arraigned by Nixon and his intermediaries.
  • The well-known Watergate scandal story, as told by Woodward and Bernstein of The Washington Post, that led to Richard Nixon’s resignation in August 1974, is an entertaining fiction concealing intelligence operations.
  • Another October Surprise was arranged for the 1980 presidential election. It was linked to the subsequent Iran-Contra scandal during the Reagan administration, led by future CIA Director under Reagan, William Casey, and former CIA Director and Vice-President under Reagan, George H. W. Bush.  As in 1968, a secret deal was made to secure the Republican’s election by making a deal with Iran to withhold releasing the American hostages they held until after the election.  They were released minutes after Reagan was sworn in on January 20, 1981.  American presidential elections have been fraught with scandals, as in 2000 when George W. Bush and team stole the election from Democrat Al Gore, and Russia-gate was conjured up by the Democrats in 2016 to try to prevent Trump’s election.
  • The Reagan administration, together with the CIA, armed the so-called “Contras” to wage war against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua that had overthrown the vicious U.S. supported dictator Anastasio Somoza. The Contras were Somoza supporters and part of a long line of terrorists that the U.S. had used throughout Latin America where they supported dictators and death squads to squelch democratic movements. Such state terrorism was of a piece with the September 11, 1973 U.S. engineered coup against the democratic government of President Salvadore Allende in Chile and his replacement with the dictator Augusto Pinochet.
  • The Persian Gulf War waged by George H.W. Bush in 1991 – the first made for TV war – was based on lie upon lie promoted by the administration and their public relations firm. It was a war of aggression celebrated by CNN and other media as a joyous July 4th fireworks display.
  • Then the neoliberal phony William Clinton spent eight years bombing Iraq, dismantling the social safety net, deregulating the banks, attacking and dismantling Yugoslavia, savagely bombing Serbia, etc. In a span of four months in 1999 he bombed four countries: Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, and Yugoslavia.  He maintained the U.S. sanctions placed on Iraq following the Gulf War that resulted in the death of 500,00 Iraqi children.  When his Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was asked by Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes if the price was worth it, Albright said, “We think the price is worth it.”
  • The attacks of September 11, 2001, referred to as 9/11 in an act of linguistic mind control in order to create an ongoing sense of national emergency, and the anthrax attacks that followed, were a joint inside operation – a false flag – carried out by elements within the U.S. deep state.  Together with the CIA assassination of JFK, these acts of state terrorism mark a second fundamental turning point in efforts to extinguish any sense of democratic control in the United States.  Thus The Patriot Act, government spying, censorship, and ongoing attacks on individual rights.
  • The George W. Bush-led U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. and its “war on terror” were efforts to terrorize and control the Middle East, Southwest Asia, as well as the people of the U.S. The aforementioned Mr. Rumsfeld, along with his partner in crime Dick Cheney, carried out Bush’s known known war crimes justified by the crimes of Sept 11 as they simultaneously created a vast Homeland Security spying network while eliminating Americans basic freedoms.
  • Barack Obama was one of the most effective imperialist presidents in U.S. history. Although this is factually true, he was able to provide a smiling veneer to his work at institutionalizing the permanent warfare state.  When first entering office, he finished George W. Bush’s unfinished task of bailing out the finance capitalist class of Wall St.  Having hoodwinked liberals of his bona fides, he then spent eight years presiding over extrajudicial murders, drone attacks, the destruction of Libya, a coup in Ukraine bringing neo-Nazis to power, etc.  In 2016 alone he bombed seven countries Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, and Iraq.  He expanded U.S. military bases throughout the world and sent special forces throughout Africa and Latin America.  He supported the new Cold War with sanctions on Russia.  He was a fitting successor to Bush junior.
  • Donald Trump, a New York City reality TV star and real estate tycoon, the surprise winner of the 2016 U.S. presidential election despite the Democratic Party’s false Russia-gate propaganda, attacked Syria from sea and air in the first two years of his presidency, claiming falsely that these strikes were for Syria’s use of chemical weapons at Douma and for producing chemical weapons. In doing so, he warned Russia not to be associated with Syrian President Assad, a “mass murderer of men, women, and children.”  He did not criticize Israel that to the present day continues to bomb Syria, but he recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. He ordered the assassination by drone of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani near Baghdad International Airport while on a visit to meet with Iraq’s prime minister.  As an insider contrary to all portrayals, he presided over Operation Warp Speed Covid vaccination development and deployment, which was a military-pharmaceutical-CIA program, whose key player was Robert Kadlec (former colleague of Donal Rumsfeld with deep ties to spy agencies), Trump’s Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services for Preparedness and Response and an ally of Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates.  On December 8, 2020 Trump joyously declared: “Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical time-frame for development and approval [for vaccines], as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months.”  And he announced they he will quickly distribute such a “verifiably safe and effective vaccine” as soon as the FDA approved it because “We are the most exceptional nation in the history of the world. Today, we’re on the verge of another American medical miracle.”  The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was approves three days later. Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine received FDA emergency use authorization a week later.
  • This Covid-19 medical miracle was a con-job from the start. The official Covid operation launched in March 11, 2020 with worldwide lockdowns that destroyed economies while enriching the super-rich and devastating regular people, was a propaganda achievement carried out by intelligence and military apparatuses in conjunction with Big Pharma, the WHO, the World Economic Forum, etc. and promulgated by a vast around-the-clock corporate media disinformation campaign.  It was the third fundamental turning point – following the JFK assassination and the attacks of September 11, 2001 and anthrax – in destabilizing the economic, social and political life of all nations while undermining their sovereignty.  It was based on false science in the interests of further establishing a biosecurity state.  The intelligence agency planners who had conducted many germ war game simulations leading up to Covid -19 referred to a future arising out of such “attacks,” as the “New Normal.”  A close study of these  precedents, game-planning, and players makes this evident.  The aim was to militarize medicine and produce a centralized authoritarian state.  Its use of the PCR “test” to detect the virus was a lie from the start.  The Nobel Award winning scientist who developed the test, Kary Mullis, made it clear that “the PCR is a process. It does not tell you that you are sick.”  It is a process “to make a whole lot of something out of something,” but it can not detect a specific virus.  That it was used to detect all these Covid “cases” is all one needs to know about the fraud.
  • Joseph Biden, who was Obama’s point man for Ukraine while vice-president and the U.S. engineered the 2014 coup d’état in Ukraine, came into office intent on promoting the New Cold War with Russia and refused all Russian efforts to peacefully settle the Ukrainian crisis. He pushed NATO to further provoke Russia by moving farther to the east, surrounding Russia’s borders.  He supported the neo-Nazi Ukrainian elements and its government’s continuous attacks on the Russian speaking Donbass region in eastern Ukraine.  In doing so, he clearly provoked Russian into sending troops into Ukraine on 24 February 2022.  He has fueled this war relentlessly and has pushed the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation.  He supported the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.  He currently presides over an aggressive provocation of China.  And like his predecessor Trump, he promotes the Covid disinformation campaign and the use of “vaccines,” urging people to get their jabs.
  • Throughout all these decades and the matters touched upon here – some of my known knowns – there is another dominant theme that recurs again and again.  It is the support for Israel and its evil apartheid regime’s repeated slaughters and persecution of the Palestinian people after having dispossessed them of their ancestral land. This has been a constant fact throughout all U.S. administrations since the JFK assassination and Israel’s subsequent acquisition of nuclear weapons that Kennedy opposed.  It is been aided and abetted by the rise of the neocon elements within the U.S. government and the 1997 formation of The Project for the New American Century, founded by William Kristol and Donald Kagan, whose signees included Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, et al., and their claim for the need “for a new Pearl Harbor.”  Many of these people, who held dual U.S. and Israeli citizenship, became members of the Bush administration.  Once the attacks of September 11th occurred and a summer of moviegoers watching the new film Pearl Harbor had passedGeorge W. Bush and the corporate media immediately and repeatedly proclaimed the attacks a new Pearl Harbor.  Once again, the Palestinian’s and Hamas’s Oct. 7, 2023 attack on Israel that is widely and falsely reported as unprovoked, as is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, has been referred to as “a Pearl Harbor Moment.”  By today, Monday 9 Oct. 2023, President Biden has already given full U.S. support to Israel as it savagely attacks Gaza and has said that additional assistance for the Israeli Defense Forces is now on its way to Israel with more to follow over the coming days. Rather than acting as an instrument for peace, the U.S. government continues it’s  support for Israel’s crimes as if it were the same country. The Israel Lobby and the government of Israel has for decades exerted a powerful control over U.S. Middle East policies and much more as well.  The Mossad has often worked closely under the aegis of the CIA together with Britain’s M16 to assassinate opponents and provoke war after war.

Donald Rumsfeld, as a key long time insider to U.S. deep state operations, was surely aware of my list of known knowns.  He was just one of many such slick talkers involved in demonic U.S. operations that have always been justified, denied, or kept secret by him and his ilk.

One does not have to be a criminologist to realize these things.  It is easy to imagine that Rumsfeld’s forlorn ghost is wandering since he went to his grave with his false “unknown unknowns” tucked away.

When he said, “I could have said that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, or vice-versa,” he did say it, of course.  Despite double-talkers like him, evidence of decades of U.S. propaganda is easy to see through if one is compelled by the will-to-truth.

Ancestral voices prophesying war; ancestral spirits in the danse macabre or war dance; Valhalla, ghostly warriors who kill each other and are reborn to fight again.  All warfare is ghostly, every army an exercitus feralis (army of ghosts), every soldier a living corpse.”
Norman O. Brown

Note: If you think I too have no evidence, look at this for many of them.
Edward Curtin is an independent writer whose work has appeared widely over many years. His website is edwardcurtin.com and his new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

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Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 8, 2024 1:17 PM

Sure, but what can a little man do against CIA and Pentagon and BIG money? We can only take the money and run!
Steve Miller said that and he was right!! https://youtu.be/-WCFUGCOLLU

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 18, 2023 2:36 PM

A mostly decent summary

but

why is the Operation Agent Orange JFK scumbag held up as a force kicking against the pricks, of his own class type, in this piece.

It’s almost like belief that any of the POTUS figureheads has innate high level power.

MiloT
MiloT
Oct 17, 2023 5:11 PM

Powerful short video on Gaza from Joel Rafidi of the Here for the Truth site

https://youtu.be/mmZQlMDtZRY?si=-ue1K8MO9YMArCTS

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Oct 18, 2023 5:05 AM
Reply to  MiloT

This site and it’s readers are pretending genocide isn’t happening. Shame on them.

Tommy
Tommy
Oct 16, 2023 2:32 PM

The author misquotes Kary Mullis. What Mullis said was that PCR is used to make a lot of something out of “something,” not “nothing.”

Edward Curtin
Edward Curtin
Oct 16, 2023 7:19 PM
Reply to  Tommy

Thanks, Tommy. You are right.

Edward Curtin
Edward Curtin
Oct 16, 2023 7:24 PM
Reply to  Edward Curtin

I corrected it at edwardcurtin.com

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 17, 2023 6:19 AM
Reply to  Edward Curtin

We can do the same here

Edward Curtin
Edward Curtin
Oct 17, 2023 7:06 PM

Thanks. That would be great.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Oct 17, 2023 8:46 PM
Reply to  Edward Curtin

Done 🙂

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 8, 2024 1:15 PM
Reply to  Tommy

“out of nothing” or “out of something”, the meaning is precisely the same.

I assume this correction of typing, commas, and a half spider leg on the paper,is a desperate psychological attempt to avoid being confronted with the content of Mr. Curtin’s article

gorden
gorden
Oct 16, 2023 1:11 PM

rums feld
roasting in hell
for his never ending trauma

burn sucker burn.

he screams what about my treasure
all my plunder my precious things
sorry lucifer says old chum
no luggage allowed in hell

now back in the furnace partner

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Oct 16, 2023 12:28 PM

Culmination

What we are going through now has been made possible by three millennia of planning and action. The awful spectacle of the Plandemic could only have been possible if the entire planet had been taken over by a single all powerful entity. This is truly a grim time. The focus was then switched to Ukraine and Russia. Vast amounts of resources that were desperately needed elsewhere were diverted to Ukraine under it’s grotesque new leader. Simultaneously we were subjected to insane theorising on gender and even the mutiliation of children. My company’s next christmas party is going to be held in a restaurant which regularly has drag queen shows. The world has gone stark raving mad. This is the result of absolute power leading to absolute corruption. And in an instant the banksters have conjured up a new false flag and are using it to exterminate two million people. The insanity of the last three years has intensified into a hideous bout of maniacal sadistic blood letting. Terrible.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 12:25 PM

The Bush administration has a problem: How to start a war..
No, US only had a problem with (a) global attention/perception/resistance (b) getting enough vassals to join in the military mayhem without too much bribery.

This is The foundational event..
No, the foundational event was the first murder of a Native American or of a religious dissident. Painting Kennedy as a saint is delusional.

Indonesian government’s slaughter of more than one million mainly poor rice farmers..
Few were farmers. Many were of Chinese origin.

9/11.. carried out by elements within the U.S. deep state.
Still coy about naming the outsiderss, are we?

Everything stated about Clinton and Obama needed to be said. As for Israel, every devout Christian is a potential zombie.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Oct 16, 2023 11:54 AM
Thom Sheaffer
Thom Sheaffer
Oct 16, 2023 11:02 AM

Anyone remember the 7/7 London bombing?

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 16, 2023 9:39 AM

UK weapons inspector Dr David Kelly also confirmed that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.
He mysteriously died (murdered) by suicide with a pocket knife slitting his wrists.
Attending ambulance service were surprised by the of blood present as the scene.

Blair and his dodgy dossier cronies have yet to face justice.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 16, 2023 11:00 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

*lack of blood

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 16, 2023 9:14 AM

I actually find Rumsfeld’s words useful in certain scenarios, even if how he applied them weren’t to my taste.

I used precisely his framework when discussing Covid19 vaccines with non-scientist jabbers.

Where mRNA vaccines were concerned, ‘known unknowns’ were what the toxicology and pharmacology profile of such vaccines would be across a population, since no proper clinical trials had taken place and no previous mRNA injections had occurred under license.

Those ‘known unknowns’ included:

  1. The effect expression of spike protein would have in the testes, the ovaries, the immune system.
  2. Whether such lipid nanoparticles would cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier and cause cognitive damage.
  3. Whether repeated jabbing would continue to stimulate antigenic responses or shift to allergenic ones.
  4. Whether antibody-dependent enhancement effects would manifest themselves after a single- or multiple jabs.

The reason these were ‘known unknowns’ is because every proper pharmacological/toxicological programme during properly constituted clinical trials would evaluate the first two; and every properly constituted clinical trial of a novel vaccine would investigate the second two.

‘Unknown unknowns’ are a very subjective topic, simply because you have to ask ‘who are such unknowns unknown to?’ They might be unknown to 90% of the population, including 100% of decision-makers, they might be unknown to 99.99999% of the world but a few unconnected souls might be aware of them, either instinctively or through an accident of work/life paths.

When I was growing up in the late 1970s, unknown unknowns would have included ‘the emergence of acquired immune deficiency in the U50s due to lifestyle choices’. There hadn’t been an AIDS-like disease in living memory, although widespread poverty, poor diet and semi-inhuman working conditions, allied to unhealthy levels of smoking and drinking would have indeed seen widespread immune suppression and compromise.

Nowadays of course that is a ‘known known’.

Some ‘known unknowns’ right now include:

  1. What will be the effect on plant life of excessive use of certain electromagnetic wave frequencies in 5/6G technologies? We won’t know for at least 50 years…
  2. Will authoritarian master-race racists win out over peaceful populations capable of compromise. The fate of the US, Israel and certain authoritarian Muslim nations will be decided by that known unknown.
  3. Will billionaires back down or will they be exterminated?
  4. When digital systems ‘fail’ and no cash fail-safes exist, how will people feed themselves?
  5. What will a generation of narcissistic easily-triggered millennials be like as parents? Authoritarian or neglectful?
  6. When MPs/Congressfolk/Parliamentary representatives truly do NOT represent their people, how long will they survive and what will be any mechanism of getting rid of them?
  7. When the Net Zero green nutters are proven to all to have no clothes on, what will happen to all the rich shadowy figures who have backed them to create global energy mayhem?
  8. What will trigger the nutcases who possess Energy-Directed Weapons to use them in anger?
  9. How many far-right neoconservatives globally will need to die to eliminate their creed for the good of humankind? Ditto authoritarian globalists, communists, fascists, mafia Godfathers and old-fashioned political grifters???
  10. How many people need to keep making open-pollinated healthy seeds of how many plants/vegetables to ensure that GM monopolists cannot win the day?

Just because someone was a genocidalist without ever picking up a rifle doesn’t mean that they don’t sometimes stimulate your mind to useful effect…..

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 12:33 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

When digital systems ‘fail’ and no cash fail-safes exist, how will people feed themselves?
The psycho billionares don’t care. They actually think they will be safe in their underground shelters or remote islands.

Ort
Ort
Oct 17, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I actually find Rumsfeld’s words useful in certain scenarios, even if how he applied them weren’t to my taste.
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I agree with Curtin’s point that this widely-reported and cited, even infamous, Rumsfeld quote was an ingredient in his signature delivery of obfuscatory projectile word-salad purée. But I also always thought that the rancorous ridicule inspired by the excerpted comment was misplaced.

That is, his point about “knowns” is not especially outrageous duckspeak. To me, it’s the kind of routine, or typical, pedantic observation an Introduction to Philosophy, aka “Philosophy 101”, instructor might make. Sure, the students might scratch their heads and laugh at first blush, but despite the convoluted quality it’s rational enough.

The derisive, dismissive characterization of the remark as offensively blatant bullshit reminds me of a comparable comment by Bill Clinton when he offered an evasive and obfuscatory response to his dalliance with Monica Lewinsky: “It depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.

I wasn’t shocked or dismayed that Clinton’s lawyerly– or “nonsensical”– phrase was aggressively circulated and mocked as a proof that Clinton is obviously a self-serving weasel and bullshitter. 

But as someone who worked with lawyers daily, I knew that Bill’s hair-splitting comment is fairly typical of legal argumentation. Far from being outrageous and pathetic gobbledygook spewed out by a scoundrel taking evasive action– a squiddy cloud of obfuscation– it was the kind of outrageous and pathetic gobbledygook thousands of lawyers get paid every day to spew while representing clients. 😒

Willem
Willem
Oct 16, 2023 6:56 AM

‘ Many have, for reasons only they can answer, put hope in these obvious charlatans,’

Here are some potential reasons

Hopium
The charlatans are the closest thing to god (prophets and false prophets)
Tradition
Fear of fear (cognitive dissonance)
Opportunity
Just gave up (love big brother, the end)
They don’t care and mind their own business

The latter is not necessarily wrong (all the others are) since most of these known known stores are BS stories from the beginning one shouldn’t mind about at all

Hele
Hele
Oct 16, 2023 6:20 AM

Thank you Edward Curtin.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 16, 2023 5:40 AM

In US 2000 election Florida results, at first networks called Florida and therefore the presidency for Gore. But Florida panhandle is in Central time zone and hadn’t been counted yet. So after panhandle came in it switched to Bush. A few weeks later, Florida was finally given to Bush–with a margin of only 537 votes. Jeb Bush was governor of Florida at the time, he ended up apologizing to his brother for not being able to deliver the state.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 17, 2023 3:24 PM
Reply to  susan mullen

537? More like a million, the frauds and thefts we’re just that glaring.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 16, 2023 3:56 AM

Sorry to tell you this Ed, but there ain’t no ghosts in hell.
Pretty sure DR’s been very hot under the collar for quite a while now.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 16, 2023 6:32 AM
Reply to  Johnny

One lone ‘downer’ does not a winter make.
Keep em comin Cobber.

les online
les online
Oct 16, 2023 3:49 AM

‘Every soldier a living corpse.”
As was said,
“The moment you don a uniform you become a function.”
The Murdering Dead…

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 1:11 PM
Reply to  les online

Eliminating the enemies of capitalism.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 16, 2023 2:34 AM

Terrific (if you will pardon the pun) breakdown of US deep state atrocities since the JFK hit. I was 17 when it occurred. It took me about a year to figure out that it was a CIA hit with the backing of, among others, LBJ and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. As time went on I added others to the conspiracy, not the least of which was Israel for his refusal to permit them to have nuclear weapons. Every one of the list of atrocities you cite is accurate. Just out of curiosity, were you ever fooled by any of them, and how long did it take for you to see the real story?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 17, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Murder on the Orient Express. Poirot proved that ALL the passengers along for the train ride were blood guilty. Even those post facto.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 15, 2023 11:06 PM

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy . . .

Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.

– JFK

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_President_and_the_Press
The President and the Press
Delivered in Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York City, April 27, 1961.

Three questions:

A) Who is the “we”?
B) What and who is the world-wide “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy”?
C) Is there a solution to the dilemma described by JFK?

Brendon O’Connell discusses some of the issues in the following video:
https://rumble.com/v3nmih7-patreon-video-10-andrew-tate-russel-brand-organised-crime-masonry-and-the-n.html
Patreon Video 10 – Andrew Tate, Russel Brand, Organised Crime, Masonry & The Network
Uploaded to Rumble: Oct 7, 2023
Channel: Unit8200

niko
niko
Oct 15, 2023 9:52 PM

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niko
niko
Oct 15, 2023 9:49 PM

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John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 11:31 PM
Reply to  niko

Interesting. I thought I knew my Latin, but until you broke it down I had yet to grasp that, in a very word, Gubernators are synonymous with MKUltra = mind controllers.

Mind Kontrölle. However light the touch may seem, at times, its essence is still all Mengelian “coercive hypnotism.”

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 16, 2023 3:49 AM
Reply to  niko

Proudhon summed it up best:

‘To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.’

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 16, 2023 5:49 AM
Reply to  Johnny

We’re constantly told by Republicans in the US House of Representatives that their job is to “govern.” But its not. Their job is to “represent” their respective voters. Since they’re quite adamant that they don’t want to “represent” us, I think the House should be eliminated.

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Oct 15, 2023 9:42 PM

Brilliant.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Oct 15, 2023 8:51 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-10-14. Underreporting factor 30 turns 18k USA post-jab dead into 540k. mRNA jabs completely failed set concepts (blog, gab, tweet).

Martha
Martha
Oct 15, 2023 11:22 PM
Reply to  Paul Prichard

I’ve been sitting with this rattling around in my head today and have no one to say it to, so I’ll say it here. I was on a weekly Sunday quasi-religious Zoom call with a couple dozen people this morning. One woman spoke up, saying she’s a school counselor who has a grim task to do tomorrow. A beautiful, hard working 17 yr old high school senior girl died suddenly from a seizure and heart attack and this woman’s job will be to help the students tomorrow in each of the girl’s classes to hear about and talk about the girl’s death. She, and many others on the call, believe in the Covid, some believe that “had Covid”, got the shots, and have no idea why this girl just died. A doctor on the call spoke up, saying that toxicology and autopsy results will take weeks and they have to just sit with knowing that sometimes kids get pneumonia or have seizures or myocarditis and die suddenly. At that point, I just had to turn off my camera and leave. There’s no waking some people up, I guess, and I just don’t know what to do with this in my own head and heart. Thank you to anyone who took the time to read my comment.

PBW
PBW
Oct 16, 2023 3:25 AM
Reply to  Martha

Martha,
What you can do is mail–anonymously–each of those people the brochure you can download via here in my comment below at this link: https://off-guardian.org/2023/10/15/a-message-to-donald-rumsfelds-ghost-about-my-known-knowns/#comment-634015

Or make your own brochure. Sending it anonymously by leaving your name and return address off of it, so as to 1) not incur the wrath of those whose cognitive dissonance borders on illness and 2) sending it anonymously is much more likely to be read and possibly digested because they won’t be focusing on *you*.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 16, 2023 4:37 AM
Reply to  Martha

I have never in my long life heard about youngsters die without some rational reason.
They took too much medicine, drank too much alcohol, took drugs, traffic accidents, surgery fault, cancer, mental ill, something.
In these cases where there is doubt the system (police) will normally require an examination (autopsy) to conclude the cause of death.
But we are in unusual times. All the best.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 1:16 PM
Reply to  Martha

We’re waiting for jabs against myocarditis, cancer and everything else.

judith
judith
Oct 16, 2023 1:21 PM
Reply to  Martha

I had to do that several times on a weekly zoom meeting I attended from 2020 through 2022. Then I just stopped going.
I could not tolerate the assumption that everyone seemed to have – that everyone on the meeting felt the same about cvid/masks/lockdowns/socialdistaning/shots.
Drove me nuts.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Oct 17, 2023 6:36 AM
Reply to  Martha

Keep planting seeds of truth whenever you can. Eventually more and more people will begin to see the light.

Hereticdrummer
Hereticdrummer
Oct 15, 2023 8:50 PM

Great article. It goes without saying that all politicians, regardless of the level, are just disposable sock puppets for the Hidden Hand.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 16, 2023 12:31 AM
Reply to  Hereticdrummer

You forgot the voters.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Oct 15, 2023 7:48 PM

JFK in November 1961appointed John McCone to replace Allen Dulles as the CIA’s head. McCone proceeded to overthrow a bunch of governments at JFK’s behest, including in Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, Guiana and Iraq, and essentially oust the Diefenbaker government in Canada because Diefenbaker, whom JFK hated (per Bobby Kennedy Sr) refused to arm air defense missiles with US nuke warheads and refused to integrate Canada’s military with the US’s. JFK prepared the overthrow of the Quadros/Goulart government in Brazil, using AID to provide material support to pro US governors in Brazilian states such as Lacerda in Rio De Janeiro, The overthrow didn’t take place till months after JFK’s assassination. JFK also hated Sukarno in Indonesia, and McCone carried on the Dulles plans to overthrow him. McCone was against the overthrow of Diem in Saigon, but JFK pressed ahead with that one. Lots of inconvenient history that Mr Curtin chooses to leave out.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 17, 2023 2:30 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

ABSOLUTE StierScheiße what you posted here, from first letter to the last full stop. That canard (maché, not enchainée, wink, wink) of JFK collaboration has been run over, then run over in reverse, hundreds, no thousands, wait,:‑wait …millions? of times by COINTELPRO and Project CHAOS perps & pals for the last 60+ years and no doubt for an upcoming century, since that pack of lies about JFK is ‘the gift that keeps on giving’.

And since all the decisions mentioned were all so covert, whose to say otherwise?

I’ll tell you who: the once & future guardians of real History. The “real history” (to borrow the name of M. Parenti radio show).

The CIA, as run then by the Nazis who have had the final say in certain black ops at Langley, ever since General Reinhard Gehlen put up his shingle there in 1946, have been ever happiest when they can pin all their ops that flop on the likes of JFK, RFK, or whoever else looks good for the rap, especially when those likes are dead and gone.

That’s a page right out of the original Nazi playbook, à la the Reichstag Fire that they leveraged with the lies that put them in power.

This twaddle is nothing new, saying JFK was behind the Diem assassination, etc etc etc. . Or Operation Northwoods. That is a dead giveaway, since these were all in the works long before Dulles got the boot. I’ve heard it here in town several times by Nazis, just in the OC, on my own block.

Douglas covers a lot of this spurious gosdip in “JFK and the Unspeakable.” And debunks it easily, as do many others.

Norman Cousins published “The Improbable Triumvirate” about his year as JFK liaison between Krushchev and Pope John, backchannel peace negotiations. Across the board. JFK was pushing the whole policy in the opposite direction of these oligarchic guard dogs on the long leash of black ops out of CIA.

That was the proximate cause of his murder by those perps, and it is 101% the known style of Dulles and all his Nazis, those guilty necks he saved from the nooses of Nuremberg. And then imported here.

To try to pin any of that on JFK is totally contradicted by any-and-all of the real history, the one that is so at odds of course with the “official” sorts from CIA.gov “historians”.

They apparently still have not got the memo that JFK put through October 1963?

NSAM 263?

RKae
RKae
Oct 15, 2023 7:24 PM

Good article.

Now I think I need to listen to “Murder By Numbers” by The Police… for the millionth time.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 15, 2023 7:09 PM

Who is next after Israel/Gaza??
“Karl Rove. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

TRT
TRT
Oct 15, 2023 6:08 PM

This is a really good rundown of pivotal deep events. Unfortunately it only focuses on proximate deep state actors like the CIA/Pentagon without mentioning the commanding role of ruling class organizations like the CFR which plan and give the orders on behalf of the oligarchy/plutocracy.

MattC
MattC
Oct 15, 2023 5:39 PM

It’s an amazing coincidence that rank dishonesty and wealth accumulation go hand in hand. Almost as if it is a system issue.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 6:04 PM
Reply to  MattC

And always they all told me as a lad “Crime doesn’t pay.”

The PTB must have coined that one as their very first Conspiracy Theory Discouragement Theory, since that would fit our reality like a precision grooved key.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 15, 2023 7:20 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Justice will always prevail. The lies under the carpet will always be revealed.
The truth will always survive…………….20-30 years after the crimes have been committed.
And the Judgement for these crimes WILL arrive at the end, when these criminals are 80-90-100 years old. Their supporters the sheeple too!!  😷 .
We are all going away folks.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 11:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

I have this very good book which reads, “All that is hidden will be revealed.”

Thank God for that (both counts).

“Literally.”

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 16, 2023 1:12 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

So far, on a long enough timeline, the value of everything, goes to zero.

Howard
Howard
Oct 17, 2023 3:09 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Justice prevails in bits and pieces only, and only after the fact – when it’s too late to matter. But one thing is absolutely certain: justice for today’s crimes has no effect on tomorrow’s crimes.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 1:18 PM
Reply to  MattC

Beware when anyone blames “the system”.

Jonathan K X
Jonathan K X
Oct 15, 2023 4:34 PM

I was wondering if he was going to avoid an honest assessment of Israel, but sure enough there it was at the end of the piece. Does this mean Curtin is walking back his support of RFK Jr.? How can he square knowing about the ugly reality of the genocide of the Palestinian people with supporting a politician who pledges to back Israel no matter what they do?

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Oct 15, 2023 9:29 PM
Reply to  Jonathan K X

ummm ‘doublethink?’

Edward Curtin
Edward Curtin
Oct 15, 2023 10:46 PM
Reply to  Jonathan K X

I do not support RFK. Jr.s support for Israel’s 75 year effort to dispossess and kill the indigenous Palestinian people and I do not support his recent backing for the Netanyahu government’s war crimes in Gaza. I have always defended the Palestinian cause and opposed the slaughter of civilians, which includes Israeli civilians. I have done my best to convince RFK, Jr. that he is dreadfully wrong, but to avail. I stand with peace groups on both sides that have long demanded an equitable solution, one which the Israeli government has long refused.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 11:38 PM
Reply to  Edward Curtin

Thanks for that clear and peace-o-centric position. Keep on keepin’ on with RFK. I sense a work in progress on that front.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 16, 2023 12:42 AM
Reply to  Edward Curtin

I was one of the people criticising RFK Jr for running for president within the Democratic Party – as a waste of time, money and political enthusiasm (this is a movement killer). The Dems are totally corrupt, and this is not a new development. He’s now running independent, which he should have done from the beginning. (I actually don’t think he should have run at all, those that really decide our elections will not allow him to win no matter how he runs.) What I feared most from his campaign is that all the energy pouring into a electoral campaign, that was bound from the outset to fail, would demoralise the (health) freedom movement. And that is exactly what I am seeing in my area. It was predictable.

judith
judith
Oct 16, 2023 1:29 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I feel the same. I am very disappointed.
I am very clear with myself not to confuse Children’s Health Defense and the work they have been doing with RFK Jr’s campaign. And his very surprising, to me, stance on Israel/Palestine.
I kept waiting for his discussion with Max Blumenthal, which he agreed to, twice. on Jimmy Dore’s show in August.
I doubt that that will take place now.
I am surprised at my own strong feelings about RFK’s stance. It is a line I just can’t cross.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 16, 2023 5:31 PM
Reply to  judith

RFK Jr met with some “leaders in the Jewish American Community” on the campaign trail. I bet he need some campaign cash, and that required him to take a pro-Zionist public positition. I don’t remember him stating his position on Israel/Palestine before…

judith
judith
Oct 17, 2023 12:43 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Well,those meetings came on the heels of the Congressional Hearing on Censorship where he was raked over the coals by Debbie Wasserman, a complete twat, and Attny Wiley, and another female senator. It would have been comical if it wasn’t so specious, ridiculous and just infuriating. I mean to accuse him so vociferously of being anti semetic. it was just moronic.
So I guess he felt he had to retaliate? I don’t know.
I was and am floored by his stance.
I have been listening to every single interview he’s conducted on and off CHD since April of 2020. No, he never mentioned Israel/Palestine that I can remember. No one ever brought it up.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 17, 2023 1:53 AM
Reply to  judith

Indeed, he has a well-earned reputation for really digging into issues, so his position on Israel/Palestine makes no sense. Courting the Jewish vote is SOP for US politicians. So his position is not out of character for your average US politician, (for the simple reason that they have deep pockets) but he’s spent his whole life avoiding politics (for likely very good reasons). So, something doesn’t smell right.

Ort
Ort
Oct 17, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  judith

Damn! I was trying to catch up after not checking this site for a couple of days.

So I just posted this reply (click to view) to one of your related comments to the “While you were watching Israel…” article. I’m tempted to just re-post it here, but instead of gratuitous duplication I linked it instead. 😞

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 15, 2023 3:57 PM

A fine, definitive article.

So, we basically have all the ammunition we need to fight this war for our souls.
But the question arises, “Wouldn’t we rather just sit at home until it’s all over?”…

We haven’t even found the battlefield yet.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 15, 2023 7:24 PM
Reply to  wardropper

We have. Here in our armchairs with our raised finger. Peace in our time!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 11:45 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

A prominent key cognitive scientist gave a keynote lecture at West Point recently (I forget the ancillary settings and details, but the article was at Global Research a few weeks ago, easy to identify) and he put it briefly from the podium:

“The Battlefield of the 21st century is the human brain. End of story.”

Then reclaiming his chair, he had finished his talk.

Short, if not sweet.

But it seems, feeling the urgency to frame it cleanly and clearly.

In spite of my other interests it has become an inescapable focus now, for my fuller understanding.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 16, 2023 1:17 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Todays and future military’s are dependent on drones first to be the eyes on the battlefield before battle, and drones are dependent on the weather, in order to fly safely.

We can see this currently in Gaza, immanent invasion, but weather dependent.

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Oct 15, 2023 9:46 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Tell that to the Gazans. There is always the chance that the battlefield will come to you/me/us ,……..but it’s already here in various senses. Virtually. Depends how you define a ‘hot war.’
(1) AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN – YouTube (Williams Oregon July 2015)
(1) YOU ARE THE BATTLEFIELD – YouTube

Mishko
Mishko
Oct 17, 2023 11:37 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Easy start: less screen time, leave your smart phone at home as often as possible.

gorden
gorden
Oct 15, 2023 3:43 PM

rummmy killed millions of folks from the middle east via his defense policies

he killed millions via his promotion of searle monsanto aspartame artificial sweetner slow slow kill
just another khazarian mafia murdering pirate satan baal molech little helper soul catcher

PBW
PBW
Oct 16, 2023 9:45 AM
Reply to  gorden

Aspartame breaks down in the small intestine into methanol, formic acid and formaldehyde.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 1:28 PM
Reply to  PBW

Many synthetic substances in “modern” processed food – including sweeteners and emulsifiers – kill us insidiously by making the gut porous. This allows the passage of undigested food into the blood. E.g., protein not broken down into amino acids. This is nothing new.

Howard
Howard
Oct 15, 2023 3:20 PM

We mustn’t neglect to mention the Deep State’s silent partner: the American people. They’re so coy about it, so nonchalant you sometimes forget they’re even there.

Addressing Donald Rumsfeld, they might ask “Rummy, what’s in it for us?”

To which Rummy, with a sly wink, would reply “That’s a big known unknown John Q.: it’s for us to know and you to find out.”

Which would garner a giggle and a nod to go ahead, do whatever your heart desires.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 6:38 PM
Reply to  Howard

There’s at least 50% who can be counted on, year in and year out, to rubber stamp or merely acquiesce (look the other way, on cue) to all the most abhorrent policies.

But it’s always been that way. Was it really any different October 15, 1723? I doubt it. That’s bedrock “homeland” here and not much amenable to shifting, this side of The Big One.

Only unforeseen seismic developments could ever change all that.

Hopefully, better than the usual. For the better than usual! 🙏

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 16, 2023 12:25 AM
Reply to  Howard

RE: We mustn’t neglect to mention the Deep State’s silent partner: the American people.

Ok, but you seemed to have “neglected” the Deep State’s very loud, in your face and persistent – literally 24/7 – collaborator, the MSM that is the engine behind what the American people think.

Howard
Howard
Oct 16, 2023 1:38 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Don’t kid yourself. The people need no nudging in order to calculate what might be in it for them when their “leaders” decide to attack, invade or otherwise plunder another nation.

They always keep one eye on the mark at all times.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 17, 2023 4:36 PM
Reply to  Howard

1 “I” on the £&$

Freecus
Freecus
Oct 15, 2023 3:09 PM

The owners of the vast network of private Central Banks have controlled the direction of world events for a very long time.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 12:54 PM

“kikes” should well read “”likes of Condoleezza” ” in my post, pending, so inglorious to lose the chance to edit while it’s spat into limbo.
.
A typo, not a Freudian slip. Or as Sigmund himself noted, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

So do the math.

I always knew that would happen at least once.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Oct 15, 2023 12:41 PM

Excellent post by Edward Curtin. The quote by Norman O. Brown nails it. Let’s vote for more of the same Let’s continue to dress our kids in expensive military costumes and throw confetti parades for them. New World Order anthem: Leonard Cohen’s “Everybody Knows”

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 15, 2023 12:31 PM

Feinstein sent me an email about this in the lead up to the 2003 invasion. I had challenged her in my own email about the pure “snow job” about WMD that the kikes of Condoleezza and Rumsfeld had been piling on us.

She wrote me back a few weeks later, untimely enough for it not to matter, stating much of what Ritter recounts, and just about as disingenuously, “If you had only seen the intelligence I have seen, you would know this is so, and judge much differently.”

I knew instantaneously that she was lying, just as I knew when hearing Condoleezza two years before say to millions through our screens, “Who would ever imagine terrorists would hijack our jumbo jets and fly them into our skyscrapers…!!!???” Per the archived blah blah blah.

We were at the Democratic Convention in San Francisco 1984, as she was, held at Moscone Center, named for the assassinated mayor whose shoes she suddenly filled the next hour, in the aftermath to that bloody affair.

On our way back to thecSt. Francis hotel at Union Square I bumped into L.A. Mayor Tom Bradley, passing by him at the elevator, but didn’t pause to greet him, a lapse he clearly noted, judging by his body language, entering the lift with a couple aides. I found out only last year that he was a longtime Prince Hall Freemason, as is Jesse Jackson (33°).

We were coming from Moscone Center where “Jesse” had just delivered his Sermon of the Century, cheered on by yours truly, loudly. A cowboyish fellow suddenly appeared in my grill as we all stood in the throng and said curtly, “We know who you are and we know your attitude. Change it or we’ll change it for you.” And he then slipped away into the great washed. It seemed like he stuck his index in my chest, but that may have been later embroidered into the story recollecting the intrusion.

Bradley was being waltzed around our Baghdad by the Bay as a possible VP by Fritz Mondale, soon to be the nominated tomato can knocked over 4 months later in November by Ronnie Reagan.

1984, after all. On our walk back to the hotel we stopped in front of an enchanted SF bookstore that had a news clipping of Mayor Feinstein in its window. The owner came out to clarify that he had not put it there as her fanboy, adding, “Nixon with a wig!” I tell all the evangelical protesters flocking here that I’m a Born Again Buddhist. Sure, anything to get a ride out of them.”

When we got to Union Square we bought the last campaign memorabilia from a Jackson volunteer. He was so touched he invited us to Jackson’s “victory” party the next night, next door at Hyatt. My family and I were three of maybe 10 pale faces in a basement otherwise full of color.

Mayor Bradley didn’t get the VP spot, that went to Geraldine Ferraro, but I was stunned to read only late last year, in “Master of the Mysteries” by Sahagun, that he had issued a statement from his then L. A. Mayor’s office soon after the alleged “suicide” of JWE (my father, an LAPD 41 years old iced “Cold Case” ) commending him for their collaboration on U.N. projects, (My sister had shown me pictures long ago of them seated together at U.N. ceremonies in L.A..)

All that happenstance of intrigue happened during Feinstein’s tenure then as SF Mayor.

I assumed at first that the WMD ruse of a letter I got from Feinstein twenty years later was a generic form, but “after further review” it appeared she was addressing me directly, and archly as was her wont. (Well, I had found out, hadn’t I, they had a helluva lot of Intel, even back then, to wit the spook who had accosted me on the Convention floor with his large brass belt buckle and cowboy styles. Aviator shades?) And she probably knew I’d been an L.A. organizer.

But just as a parallel witness, she had told me the same things she’d told Ritter. I had fired off my protest to her in fiery enough terms, we were picketing South Coast Plaza almost nightly, with a few hundred others.

She invited me cordially to more discussion thru her office, but I never answered back.

Because I never took her seriously (or trustably) enough again to even try. Then I found out months later that her late husband Blum, also recently deceased, was an arms dealer and she was implicated in conflicts of interest in funding votes.

And so it goes here. Sadly.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 16, 2023 12:16 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

An article in SFGate from 20 years ago, chronicling the millions and billions of “mega-military” contracts that Feinstein’s husband Blum had recently scored “War Brings Business to Feinstein’s Spouse Blum”:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/war-brings-business-to-feinstein-spouse-blum-s-2652085.php

John Ervin
John Ervin
Oct 17, 2023 3:40 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

“kikes” (typo in above post) should well read “”likes of Condoleezza” ” in my post, pending, so inglorious to lose the chance to edit while it’s spat into limbo. (At least in this software.)
.
A typo, not a Freudian slip. Or as Sigmund himself noted, “Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar.”

So do the math.

I always knew that would happen at least once.

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Oct 21, 2023 6:13 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I think The United -Steins of America is a more accurate name and says more about the real conditions than the present.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Oct 15, 2023 11:50 AM

Impressive assessment of the US shadowy machinations since the assassination of JFK. I enjoy your momentous and prescient style, like solving a large geostrategic puzzle in very few words. I realize it requires much analysis and research, but I’d love to read your list of known knowns going back to before the banker’s takeover in 1913.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 15, 2023 10:50 AM

It’s a good piece, but largely preaching to the converted. We all need to start a conversation about solutions.

The knee jerk response is usually about “Revolution” but anyone with an ounce of sense realises this would quickly spiral out of control into violence as the state gets the excuse it needs to further clamp down on civil rights and even the slightest disobedience, violently. People are being arrested for waving the wrong flag, or liking the wrong opinion on social media FFS. Anyone calling for some sort of “Revolution” needs to be careful what they wish for, because deep state actors have it covered, you could well end up in the killing fields before the dust settles. History is full of examples.

Whatever the solution, it can’t be achieved without sane heads leading it, first we need to win the hearts and minds of the system servers, local councils, the police, the armed forces etc. We also need to counter the “divide and rule” tactics of the deep state.

Any solution has to be non violent, it’s proponents need to be aware of the violent agent provocateur, the inside men of would be co-opters, study how the Occupy Movement was co-opted for example.

How to win the hearts and minds of the system severs?

PBW
PBW
Oct 15, 2023 2:32 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

“It’s a good piece, but largely preaching to the converted. We all need to start a conversation about solutions.

We commenters have a *responsibility* to share our knowledge with others who are captured by the lies and propaganda—and not only posting comments on social media where we are largely preaching to the converted.

After the brochure discussed below, my next brochure is going to be reprinting this very article, “A Message to Donald Rumsfeld’s Ghost About My Known Knowns” by Edward Curtin. Curtin’s article needs to be widely distributed because of its ability to explode the lies, propaganda and myths we’ve all been force-fed for decades.

By utilizing social media so much we are *missing* a huge opportunity to reach those many people who are still uneducated about the tyranny of Covid.  We need to remember that most people are still in the dark about the horrible agenda unfolding. And many of these people are not ‘dialed in’ to the few alternative sites that tell the truth. Our social media posts are falling on the ears of the already converted—that is, if they reach any at all due to censorship and shadow banning.

The solution is ‘simple’: We need to put printed material in the hands of people. I urge you to start by ‘simply’ printing and passing out the brochure whose link is below. And I encourage you later to consider making your own brochures on other topics; below I give you some ideas for doing that. Passing out brochures *in person* is satisfying. And it *does* reach those who have never heard of the countervailing ideas on the Covid/masking tyranny.  

The *ready-to-print* 4-page brochure uses material from Off-Guardian and other sources to demolish the lies and propaganda around Covid and masks. (see bottom of this comment on where to download). good bit of the material is from the Off-Guardian piece, “40 Facts You Need to Know: the Real Story of Covid”. The Off-Guardian ’40 Facts’ article is, by itself, earth-shattering to those—most people!– who have been kept in the dark by the lying mainstream media. As the Off-Guardian says, ‘Facts Really Should Be Sacred’. Be proud you are putting in people’s hands material which help to crumble the putrid lies and distortions of the Global Predators. Maybe Orwell said the following or maybe he didn’t, but it is worth repeating because it is true: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”  

You can pass them out to those you pass by or who are next to in a shopping line, etc. Brochures can be distributed clandestinely, too—in mailboxes, on doorsteps etc. And you can mail them—even anonymously–to friends, acquaintances and others for whom you can find a mailing address. Mailing anonymously to some may help to overcome the cognitive dissonance many have, because without knowing who sent it the recipients can then more easily absorb the content rather than conjure up old baggage or judgments from the past concerning the sender.

You can use this brochure as is, or modify or excerpt it. I also encourage you to consider making your own brochures or leaflets in the future about different topics that you know people need to understand regarding the unfolding tyranny. There are so many good writers here in the comment section. Please use your passion and writing ability to put your words on paper and then literally into the hands of others. Even if you’re not ‘a writer’ you can make a powerful brochure by copying and pasting great posts of others you’ve found on twitter or telegram or Off-Guardian, etc. You don’t need to pass out *hundreds* of brochures—even a handful is a blow against this tyranny. Do whatever you can, whenever you can. Carry some copies with you wherever you go and leave them in an opportune place or with someone who appears receptive. It is very satisfying to know there is a chance the recipient will learn something important. Especially when you contrast that with the ‘void’ of talking ‘into’ social media where we often are preaching to the converted.

Besides, social media are censoring and ‘shadow banning’ many posts from ever being seen by many, or any. Even ‘followers’ are often not seeing posts you make. Therefore, passing out brochures can be a ‘radical’ way to reach others.  

With all the flashing lights and sounds of our smartphones & computers we may have forgotten the power of the printed word on real paper in the hands of those who need it.

 You will be a ‘publisher’ by printing a brochure. Tried and true. Tangible. Hot off the press. Leaflets and manifestos have started revolutions. It may turn out that social media, while enlightening, may be seducing us into staying inside a social media *box*, bereft of real contact with real people (and where we are monitored). Weren’t all past revolutions and social change catalyzed by people-to-people, face-to-face and through the printed word on paper that we held in our hands? A physical brochure is not the same as another brain-fatiguing email out of a hundred emails that are unopened in one’s inbox. Having a brochure brought home to read is a respite from emails and it is a recipe for revolution.

Yes, it costs money to print brochures. But spending money on actually reaching people—rather than talking into the echo chambers of social media—is extremely satisfying. In fact, you could say this is one of the best ways to spend money at this mind-boggling time when psychopaths are instituting worldwide high-tech slavery and depopulation.

Of course, it doesn’t have to be ‘either/or’: using social media or passing out brochures. It can be both. So please *supplement* your valuable time with periods where you pass out brochures instead of doing everything on social media.

The 4-page brochure can be downloaded as a *ready-to-print* PDF from my google drive here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DsowCSh5KJXlIjNB2IOdVw2cn_ezn9ue?usp=sharing
You can print it double-sided on one sheet of 11×17 (A3) size paper and fold it once to make a 4-page brochure. Or if printing on 11×17 is inconvenient then it can be printed double sided on two pages of regular printer paper, and stapled. The following Substack has the brochure copy but it is in Substack’s format so it is not ‘ready-to-print’. But with some work it can be made ‘ready-to-print’ if for some reason the google drive link above is not working: https://passoutbrochuresfightthepower.substack.com

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 15, 2023 9:25 PM
Reply to  PBW

Thanks, great act.
But the sheeple has already been tried, I doubt anybody at this stage will admit their own foolishness.
The psychology has been described several times before during history:
People go on as far possible with their normal life until dead corpses lay on their doormat.
Only a few are wise enough to see the patterns and prepare themselves.
But lets do it anyway.

Martha
Martha
Oct 15, 2023 11:34 PM
Reply to  PBW

I wish you the best of luck with this, but the people who are still true believers won’t read your brochure, any more than they’d read the Watchtower brochure delivered by the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I don’t know what words to use for people who believe that Biden is a good president and the shots are safe and effective. What I get when I try is: “So you’re a Trump supporter, then?!” Um, NO. So I change the subject to — who do you favor for the World Series?

PBW
PBW
Oct 16, 2023 3:07 AM
Reply to  Martha

I don’t read the Watchtower because I already know what it is. If I received an anonymous brochure in the mail or handed to me as I stood in line somewhere, of course I would look at it. As would many others.
 
And, remember, there are many types of non-awake people, not only your ‘true believers’ many of whom are, as you say, willfully resistant and willfully ignorant.
 
I am speaking from experience in distributing brochures–they can have a positive effect.
 
It is ‘ridiculous’ for us to only spend our time solely posting in the echo chamber of social media. When you hear yourself thinking ‘it is futile’ to pass out brochures, is when you should also hear yourself say “time to get off my ass and try”.
 
We on enlightened social media are privileged to have the knowledge we do. But we also have a *responsibility* to try to share our knowledge. As Orwell is alleged to have said, (paraphrased) ‘it is a revolutionary act to tell the truth in times of universal deceit’. It is time we became revolutionaries.
 
“He who does not oppose evil…commands it to be done” Leonardo da Vinci

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 2:59 PM
Reply to  PBW

A great effort has gone into making people illiterate, or “too busy to read” but not to watch videos. So, it is important to make your brochures brief or point-form.

PBW
PBW
Oct 16, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  mgeo

With you and many others making their own brochures I am confident there will be a diversity of forms and writing styles. I know numerous people who are not too busy to read so they will be able to handle four pages which I will mail anonymously. Other folks, however, I just give the brochures to in person.

I can imagine myself, you, or others making shorter brochures/leaflets that could feature, for example, some of the excellent memes we’ve seen in OffGuardian and elsewhere, coupled with a few good paragraphs.

There are all kinds of possibilities.

Howard
Howard
Oct 15, 2023 3:33 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

We must do what never fails to work, however long it takes: we should give the “ruling class” enough rope to hang themselves. Let that “rope” be virtual (i.e., verbal).

Let the power brokers talk themselves into oblivion. Above all, don’t tune them out once they’ve told us what they think we want to hear.

And when they’re done talking, whisper in their ear “We’re not going to pay a single debt or a single tax until you give us back all the rights you took from us.”

(I’m quite sure all the people will go along with the plan.)

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 16, 2023 5:28 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

Only one side can freeze your bank accounts–I learned this from the Canadian truckers. For anything to change, US taxpayers must somehow be separated from the Pentagon. Since the US already has no southern border, why not make it official and have several US states merge with Mexico, such as California, New Mexico, Arizona, along with Oregon and Washington.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 16, 2023 1:39 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Non-violence has won before, but such a turn is inconcievable for a nation responsible for so much blood.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Oct 15, 2023 10:49 AM

Excellent

An excellent article. Among the best I have read on this site.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 15, 2023 10:12 AM

This piece should be carved into the sky.
Thanks Ed.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 15, 2023 9:16 AM

Donald Rumsfeld cared so much about the public’s well-being he got Aspartame approved.

Martha
Martha
Oct 15, 2023 11:41 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Don’t forget that the ironically named 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act happened during the Reagan administration, that gave blanket liability protection for manufacturers and opened the floodgates for Pharma profits and vast expansion of the number of shots kids get each year. Hardly the public health bonanza there either.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Oct 15, 2023 8:21 AM

In other NEWS, the unlawful communist “Voice” (AKA. Australian Brexit) referendum was not carried in Australia today. Let’s hope it does not stop here. Perhaps more will investigate further to realise that this Australia corporation and it lackeys are only masquerading as government and are imposters. They need to be exposed.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 15, 2023 10:10 AM

Several Aboriginal activists have opined that the Voice was pure tokenism by a Labor government, in an effort to appease its middle class voters and avoid a fair dinkum treaty. A REAL voice.
Recent Labor leaders in Australia have gone ape shit about leaving their ‘mark’ on this country. The Liberal/National Party are no better.
Corporate sycophants, all of them.

https://overland.org.au/2023/10/the-use-and-abuse-of-history-in-the-voice-referendum-debate-an-interview-with-professor-gary-foley/

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Oct 15, 2023 10:37 AM
Reply to  Johnny

That a weirdo political whore like Albanese would do anything to help the dispossessed is risible. This was the arsehole that attended the bankster’s LGBTQI+ march.He brutally imposed the clot shot. He is the swine that is cheering on the extermination of another indigenous people which is in progress as we write. These referendums are an effing waste of time. We need to squander our weekends on totally meaningless exercises. The outcomes are predictable and decided in advance. The last one was on the legalisation of rectum based unions and the outcome was predictable.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 15, 2023 11:13 AM

Rudd gave us the ‘Sorry’ farce,
Gillard gave us the NDIS, which has been corrupted by greedy, fast buck, business Slugs and now Albo’s tokenism on the Voice.
As for the Liberals, we got Iraq, Afghanistan, Robodebt and billions for submarines.
They’re all fucked in the head,

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 15, 2023 3:54 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Yep.
They’re nuts.

Alan
Alan
Oct 16, 2023 4:53 PM

Well done topic closed down