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The Hate Machine

CJ Hopkins

I think something’s wrong with my Hate Machine.

I’ve got it turned up to 10, but I’m still not feeling it.

The hate. The murderous, self-righteous hate. The mindlessly fanatical hate.

I set the dial to “Palestinians.” Nothing. No reaction whatsoever. So, I set it to “Israelis.” Again, nothing. I just can’t seem to get my hate up. It’s embarrassing. Maybe there are some pills that would help.

Seriously, this is interfering with both my social and professional life. I need to get my hate up somehow. I’ve tried everything I could possibly think of.

I tried reading nothing but news about Israel’s ongoing liquidation of Gaza. I stared at pictures of dead and horribly mutilated Palestinian children. Thousands of them. Killed. Torn to pieces. Residential neighborhoods reduced to rubble. Whole families crushed under tons of concrete.

I told myself, over and over, that they were “terrorists.” Or the children of “terrorists.” Or that they had “voted for terrorists.” Or they were “anti-Semites.” “Human animals.” “The Children of Darkness.”

It didn’t work.

I tried reading nothing but news about the Hamas attack on October 7. The murder of families. The wanton slaughter. I stared at the pictures of the blood-smeared bedrooms. The footage of the executions. I read the messages that people sent to their loved ones before they were shot to death.

I told myself, over and over, that they were “fascists,” “occupiers,” “colonizers,” “Zionazis.” I told myself that they deserved what they got.

Nothing. No arousal whatsoever.

I checked the connections on my Hate Machine. They all seemed fine. So, I tried rebooting it. Twice. Nope. That didn’t work either.

So, finally, I called the Hate Corporation, but I couldn’t get through to a Hate representative, because of “an unusually high volume of callers.”

So, apparently, I’m not the only one with this dysfunction.

That was kind of reassuring. Because, frankly, I’ve been feeling so left out. All the really cool people are grooving on hate. Seriously, check the Internet. It’s like a 24-hour Roman orgy of hate, in which I’m unable to participate, apparently.

I’m sorry for whining. It’s unseemly, I know. And I am fairly sure my inability to achieve and maintain a satisfactory tumescence or protuberance of hate is not my Hate Machine’s fault. I have the latest model, with all the new features.

And other people’s Hate Machines are working just fine.

How is yours doing?

Are you feeling the hate? Are those you hate the embodiment of Evil? They are liars, aren’t they? Liars and murderers. Genociders. Nazis. Subhuman scum. Everything they say is a lie. Everything they do, and are, is wicked. They cannot help it. They were born that way. They need to be wiped off the face of the Earth. They need to be eradicated, don’t they? They are never going to change their ways. Making peace with them is not an option. It’s us or them. They, the others, and all their issue, need to be defeated, vanquished, erased, exterminated.

This is no time for compassion or pity. They, the others, have no morals or ethics, or simple human empathy, so we can’t afford to have any either. None of them are innocent. None of them are civilians. All of them, men, women, and children, are soldiers in the Army of Evil! They’re murderers, so we have to be murderers! They are liars, so we need to become liars! Truth is for children! This is war! We need to kill and kill and kill, and celebrate killing, and swim in their blood, and defile their corpses … the others … our enemies!

Well, what do you know? It appears my Hate Machine is functioning properly after all! Yes, wow, that feels so much better! I guess I just needed to relax, let go, stop thinking so much about what’s right and wrong, and let my hate do what it wants.

Seriously, I’m not kidding, folks … I haven’t had a hate-on like this for years!

I’m ready to join that Roman Orgy of Hatred!

All I need to do now is pick a side.

CJ Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volumes I and II of his Consent Factory Essays are published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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Researcher
Researcher
Nov 28, 2023 3:06 PM

If you don’t know that Hamas is working and coordinating directly with the Israeli government, you don’t know any truth about this topic, just propaganda.

There were no paragliders. There was no attack. It was all a staged piece of really bad theater complete with crisis actors on both sides. Ever watched any Pallywood videos? The “leaderSHIP” on both sides work together against the larger population. They always have. This entire fake war is about force evacuating people from the Gaza Strip for the Hamas-Israel gas deal: Forced migration is part of the UN’s Agenda for the 21st century and the climate hoax.

Hamas has a network of tunnels. That’s how they make their billions, by colluding with the embargo and Israelis. There’s nobody trapped in Palestine territory, either.

The faux outrage is being overplayed by both sides who are orchestrating the propaganda and planned destruction. Hegelian Dialectic wins again.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 27, 2023 10:29 AM
Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 27, 2023 7:04 AM

This is a quote.

On 7 October Israel suffered a spectacular military humiliation. It was caught totally unprepared. Its southern front collapsed. Its command centers were taken by Hamas’ combatants. Its ground battalions were wiped out, the army failed to defend the Gaza Ring settlements, and if this is not enough, the army put into action the notorious Hannibal Directive and is responsible for a significant amount of the Israeli civilians fatalities. All of that is known by now and widely acknowledged in Israel and abroad.

October
October
Nov 27, 2023 7:06 AM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

https://twitter.com/abolishnato/status/1728827901506928693
Strange goings-on that day. They say so themselves.
And some of the more astute are beginning to see the consequences of this particular fake binary:
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1728815519565062225
Plus now the released are further destroying the narrative. 
Oops!

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 28, 2023 2:02 AM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

Was it unprepared or deliberately unprepared ? I suspect the latter.

i woodie
i woodie
Nov 26, 2023 9:43 PM

CJ, there’s a lack of understanding in comments here, reflecting on your satire. I see it man….
There is hate out there my friend and it’s hiding, just waiting for the right moment…a lady, with blond hair driving a Range Rover, cut me off at the lights, forcing me and my bicycle into the gutter…i gesticulated at her “what are you doing..” sort of thing, only to have her blond teenage daughter smirkily tell me “hope you die” as they drove by to the next traffic light.
So, the HATE is real and so beautifully blond, that no one sees it. How lucky we are to have all those naughty evil ones blown, shot, squashed, misplaced and destroyed to keep our happy clappy going.
life is wonderful.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Nov 26, 2023 1:05 AM

Anger and hate are different concepts. Anger aims to change or restore an unjust situation. Hate focuses more on destroying/hurting those who caused said injustice.

As in the case of fear, it could be argued that anger is part of the defense mechanism necessary for survival. Hate, however, may not only jeopardise one’s survival, but further compel the subject to take unnecessary risks. How various animal species behave in nature could bring light on this fondamental différence.

Perhaps Hopkins should dwell on this more, as it would make his observation more relevant to humanity’s struggle. There are no solutions in unleashing raw hysterical emotions.

wandering shoe
wandering shoe
Nov 29, 2023 7:07 PM
Reply to  Raoullo

let’s see how we can ‘own’ the author by purposely missing the point

Il meglio è l’inimico del bene. Thanks for the lecture, O wise One

Milton Benjamin
Milton Benjamin
Nov 25, 2023 8:14 PM

Don’t worry, C.J. It’s a feature not a bug. You see, the moral compass on all machines issued between 1960 and 1970 were disabled. Some sort of social experiment, apparently. Anyway, I believe a patch is available but you would need to contact your local church for further details. Hope this helps.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Nov 24, 2023 7:02 AM

The AI that we’re looking at now is immature. There are no standards, no professional body, no certifications. Everybody figures out how to do it, figures out their own internal norms,” said Rayid Ghani, a professor of machine learning and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University. “The AI that gets built relies on a handful of people who built it, and the impact of these handfuls of people is disproportionate.”

Hate machines designed to do what & for whom… ?

Law lags laterally & in longitude.
Hate: easily exploited . . .

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 24, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

Its all about money. AI is immature?
Its only a question about fiddling and fiddling and fiddling in the quantum computer, endless IT fiddling and IT research to do each software programme better and better, and some day it will be better because we spent so much IT time, IT research, and money to IT better.

Like Clima Change. We are doing the weather better, and you pay!

DOA
DOA
Nov 23, 2023 9:36 PM

I am so glad to remember a time not so long ago where real alt media truthers actually got off there lazy fat ass’s and went and visited the sites,

today this new lot wonky gay bar assistant manager haircuts in there lavish studio set ups who switch on the smart phone log into twitter and watch shill MIC new alt media outlets and then report back there finding sponsored by UBI funded by The MIC.

CJ with his designer perm hairdo & bed head sponsored hairspray is one of them.

The hardest thing this lot do is the bio daily tan shop Uber ride to the sun tanners and teeth whiteners clinic.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 27, 2023 11:54 AM
Reply to  DOA

Got off their
Report back their findings

(if you want to be taken seriously,,,)

There; I fixed it for you.

niko
niko
Nov 23, 2023 7:15 PM

The powers that (shouldn’t) be continually provide two minute hate drills so we won’t take sides against them. To divide is to rule when misdirecting people from divisions of power and oppression among us, forgotten in rage and riot against such controlled oppositions and enemies as make for identity politics and wars. Thereby the choices we make, or rather which are made for us, leave us powerless to create conditions of society beyond a ‘human nature’ red in tooth and claw requiring governance by the state and all the organized rackets by which the powerful get away with murder.

Like fear and terror, hate is a machine perfected by sciences of social engineering which rob us of our passion for justice within ‘the way things are’. If we grow exhausted from taking sides assigned us by the machinery of hatred, supposed neutrality can be no more than another name for consent to the cold logic of indifference before bizzness as usual of the greatest evils in the world carried out not by those carrying guns but by those in suits sitting behind desks (C.S. Lewis), most convenient for remaining in armchairs ourselves.

Love overcomes hate when we get up from sitting on sidelines to take sides in compassion for those whose oppression cries out for redemption from “this filthy, rotten system” (Dorothy Day). “The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you don’t listen to it, you will never know what justice is.” (Howard Zinn) How else will we fight the powers that (shouldn’t) be but by our own reorganized care for and commitment to radical, revolutionary relations among ourselves beyond the all too human nightmares of power that have been made of us?

My heart is moved by all I cannot save:
so much has been destroyed
I have to cast my lot with those
who age after age, perversely,
with no extraordinary power,
reconstitute the world.
-Adrienne Rich

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 24, 2023 4:32 PM
Reply to  niko

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 8:37 PM
Reply to  niko

Adrienne Rich flung the proferred national Medal of the Arts back in the two Clinton faces in the ’90s, with the coda of her open letter stating:

“Art means nothing if it simply decorates the dinner table of the power which holds it hostage.”

Astute. BRAVA.

Not sure, she may have been the only one to decline it. Which speaks volumes. In verse.

Starving artists thirst for funding here….

The novelist Thomas Wolfe said something like: America pours gold down the throats of its whores and lets its poets starve.

Karin
Karin
Nov 23, 2023 5:20 PM

There is a similar problem with my hate machine. It took a video clip with H.Clinton in 2011 to get it going. So far, I haven’t bothered about its general lack of reaction., I neither like the smell nor the taste, when it’s running, it makes me feel sick pretty quickly. So I just switch it straight off and remove myself from the presence of others, whose machines are running.

By now I know that the hate machine needs fear as fuel with a dash of helplessness and a human enemy as focus for the rage. It doesn’t matter how or when the fear is generated. Any event that brings about a traumatization will do, because it can be used against anything I/we (are told to) choose.

Whom shall I hate, when there are currently more than 350 military conflicts in the world, not to mention the other crap? Too much choice for me and each choice toxic..

Easy Peazy
Easy Peazy
Nov 23, 2023 7:41 PM
Reply to  Karin

Too much for me too. But if/when the arena reaches my doorstep, I hope I may choose wisely. I wept when I considered the choices I may be forced to make.

To paraphrase from one of the Terminator movies; after John Conner says something about hating the stupid robot and the Terminator say something about ‘hate being far more useful than despair’ I can dig it. But at the same time, if Behemoth says they are going to do something, it might be a good idea to heed.

CJ, being one of the frontmen chronicling the advance of totalitarianism can no longer be surprised it shows up on his doorstep.

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 23, 2023 3:19 PM

The usual Hopkins chatter. He simply “forgot” to tell us that the IDF baby burners killed most of the IDF military “citizens” romping about the music fest and then blamed Hamas for it until the truth came out. Oh well….one can never be allowed to forget the hollow co$t, that wonderful gift that allows the khazar occupiers in Semitic Palestine to slaughter who ever they wish to slaughter because of the evil Germans etc. etc. etc.

DOA
DOA
Nov 23, 2023 9:27 PM
Reply to  Martillo

what you talking about.?
festivals are so normal in gaza.

Leo Gormley
Leo Gormley
Nov 23, 2023 2:02 PM

There seems to be an assumption that there are 2 equal powers involved here. In reality tho, the same Hegemon that have financed Bibi and his fellow members of the Likud party to make significant progress toward their stated dream of creating a Greater Israel by removing the “Amaleks” also has a Gaza reserved for us. You may want to research this a little further , CJ. To the Hegemon, we-Christian, Jewish, Muslim or agnostic- are all Palestinians.

William W Jeffreys
William W Jeffreys
Nov 23, 2023 12:46 PM

Perfect! Picking a side is exactly what the “authorities” want us to do, so they can lead us around by the nose and steal from us while we fight each other. It’s time to simply say “No” and turn our backs to them.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 24, 2023 12:01 AM

One side is the central banksters that did convid, 9/11, JFK, genital mutilation, endless wars and so much more. On the other side we have the impoverished inmates of the world’s oldest and largest concentration camp being decimated by the most sophisticated weapons ever devised. Whose side are you on ?

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2023 9:13 AM

Speaking of hate, here’s a new video of Israeli children singing a song about destroying the people of Gaza:

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/watch-israeli-children-sing-we-will-annihilate-everyone-gaza

Gaufres
Gaufres
Nov 23, 2023 9:41 AM
Reply to  Johnny

You do realize do you not that similar videos are circulated about arabs wanting to eliminate Israel?

Perhaps what we need to wonder is why so many polarizing tropes are appearing. Or do we just all become a chorus of screams into the abyss?

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2023 10:14 AM
Reply to  Gaufres

It came from Chris Hedges on ScheerPost.
Are you implying that one of the greatest war journalists in the world wouldn’t have verified it?

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Nov 23, 2023 11:03 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Why are so many of you hardline hate-screamers so obsessed with the idea people are saying stuff isn’t real?

I have only seen one person in the comments suggest the killing isn’t real. I certainly have NEVER said that but I’m constantly accused of doing so.

Are you guys perhaps projecting your own fears?

I’m also stunned to see Chris Hedges described as “one of the greatest war journalists in the world”. I thought he was known as an establishment gatekeeper. This is his CV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges.

Impressive. NYT, blah blah all the usual – pushed the fake Srebrenica massacre (so much for checking his sources), was later flipped to work for controlled fake “alt” sites and started pushing the new “anti-US” globalist narrative right on cue.

Has a lovely positive Wiki page and gets plenty of free publicity from the mainstream in exactly the way real anti-establishment figures don’t.

Yup, looks legit. 😂

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2023 11:17 AM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

Establishment gatekeeper?
You’re barking up the wrong tree.
Hedges might defer to science and Big pHarmer but he’s no gatekeeper for the MIC or the 1%.

Ian
Ian
Nov 23, 2023 6:08 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Man, he just could not bring himself to question the vaccines. Not for a second. He had to twist it into some kind of socialist delusion, like the truckers protesting the mandates weren’t mostly the opposite.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Nov 23, 2023 11:14 PM
Reply to  Ian

Hedges also seemed to focus only on the right wing as the fascists, refusing to see the mandates from the supposed left as the fascism they are. I admit I’ve not read him in a while due to that. If he’s really willing to go true full dissident then he too has got to let go of the partisan bullshit. As we all must.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:07 PM
Reply to  Ian

Hedges was a Middle East bureau chief for the New York Times for years and years. I am vulnerable to much of his writing such as American Fascists and so on but it is hard to escape some of the realities about him. Pardon me if I’ve said it before but I was 5 years at military school in our teens with David Talbot and he was trotted out as the lone left-wing student spokesman in a very right wing “nazified” school, and edited the school magazine as well. His whole story, giving a solo spills on stage for our morning mandated assemblies, was really hard to believe. And yet today he is the dean of much American Alt research, editor of many “Alt” websites and more or less the doyen of assassination research in
USAmerica (Douglass references his works countless times in his endnotes to JFK and the Unspeakable and also Nolan in CIA Rogues, which was published where Talbot is editor).

Very very suspicious roots, in Hollywood. And during the heyday of CIA Operation CHAOS and FBI COINTELPRO in our ZIP codes there.* We both got expelled from Harvard School the same year 1969, but only mine really was for lack of true love.

[*Tom O’Neill gives a pretty good history of those intrusions and incursions -for the most part- in his 2020 book “CHAOS...” ]

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 8:55 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Hedges was a Middle East bureau chief for the New York Times for years and years. I am vulnerable to much of his writing such as American Fascists and so on but it is hard to escape some of the realities about him. Pardon me if I’ve said it before but I was 5 years at military school in our teens with David Talbot and he was trotted out as the lone left-wing student spokesman in a very right wing “nazified” school, and edited the school magazine as well. His whole story, giving a solo spills on stage for our morning mandated assemblies, was really hard to believe. And yet today he is the dean of much American Alt research, editor of many “Alt” websites and more or less the doyen of assassination research in
USAmerica (Douglass references his works countless times in his endnotes to JFK and the Unspeakable and also Nolan in CIA Rogues, which was published where Talbot is editor).

Very very suspicious roots, in Hollywood. And during the heyday of CIA Operation CHAOS and FBI COINTELPRO in our ZIP codes there.* We both got expelled from Harvard School the same year 1969, but only mine really was for lack of true love.

[*Tom O’Neill gives a pretty good history of those intrusions and incursions -for the most part- in his 2020 book “CHAOS...” ]

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:24 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

NB Sorry for the TRIPLE repost of copies of this above comment 😟 but I was stymied to no end by the software and saw a “system error” note elsewhere. Hélas, hard to navigate past/thru all of that at times.

I edited the word “Nazified” out of the final edit, to “Johnny” because though the school was clearly in the clutches of the West Coast Surftwaffe, so to put it, and with a distinctly Teutonic presence, perhaps we should have just used the word “fascist” ~ which is why that term is often used as a one-size-fits-all descriptor.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:14 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Hedges was a Middle East bureau chief for the New York Times for years and years. I am vulnerable to much of his writing such as American Fascists and so on but it is hard to escape some of the realities about him. Pardon me if I’ve said it before but I was 5 years at military school in our teens with David Talbot and he was trotted out as the lone left-wing student spokesman in a very right wing Nixonized+ school, and edited the school magazine as well. His whole story, giving us solo spiels on stage for our morning mandated assemblies, was really hard to believe, since he really was the only one doing that. And yet today he is the dean of much American Alt research, editor of many “Alt” websites and more or less the doyen of assassination research in
USAmerica, if not all AngloWorld (Douglass references his works countless times in his endnotes to JFK and the Unspeakable and also Nolan in CIA Rogues 2013, which was published where Talbot is editor).

Very very suspicious roots, in Hollywood. And during the heyday of CIA Operation CHAOS and FBI COINTELPRO in our ZIP codes there.* We both got expelled from Harvard School the same year 1969, but only mine really was for lack of true love.

[*Tom O’Neill gives a pretty good history of those intrusions and incursions -for the most part- in his 2020 book “CHAOS...” ]

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 12:12 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

Why are so many of you hardline hate-screamers so obsessed with the idea people are saying stuff isn’t real?

People are saying “it’s just not real”.

Unless they’re speaking some code where they say the opposite of what they mean, who knows.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 26, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

I see your point and I don’t disagree with it. Of course the true conflict is a vertical conflict, not a horizontal one. It was always the working class who were sent to the battlefields to kill each other off, and solve the very real conflicts existing among the ruling class (Ok, I know this is a point of disagreement but, it is of no consequence to the principal point of this comment). And I appreciate that you want to point out how publishing one-sided views can contribute to conflicts between common people who instead should be united.

That said, it is the method you use to achieve that goal that I don’t find helpful IMO. People naturally post things they think important, some may be even emotionally swept towards one side without considering the big picture, and others may even believe this is a horizontal conflict between two peoples. These things happen genuinely in people and can’t be suppressed by heavy-handed, combative injonctions to repress their emotions. It would be like trying to attract flies with vinegar; doesn’t work. And it’s exhausting, I imagine, having to reply to everyone who might be expressing themselves genuinely but however without considering the effect on the general understanding of horizontal conflict, or minimising that effect.

So, I’d suggest that you write a comment in which you state clearly this point; on why, while it is clear that Israeli State is committing a decimation of the Palestinian people far beyond a simple retaliation, something o be strongly and unequivocally condemned, an abomination; that, notwithstanding, Israeli population is enemy of neither the Palestinians nor of us; that, the Palestinian together with Israeli populations have been put in this conflict by circumstances of which they couldn’t have had control; circumstances that go decades earlier; that Palestinians themselves are aware of this nuance and are very measured in their vIews, far from hate; that all they want is live in peace together with their neighbours; that Israeli aren’t either happy being financially enticed to leave their own country and come to the Middle East which in most cases is entirely different in every respect from what they knew; that proof of that is reverse-immigration of Israeli leaving for other countries has taken off.

Finally, that one can be extremely outraged and at the same time be conscious that outrage without understanding is blind and a waste of energy. That the outrage is not directed against people but against institutions; proof of that the taking down of all dictators, totalitarians and despots never stopped dictatorship, nor totalitarianism, not despotism; that it’s time we direct our attention to the mechanics that produce these tragedies beyond the cogs who operate it, to the infernal machine which is Capital. Also, a useful thing is to include a comprehensive historical account of how all of this started and got to this point.

Make all of that clear and well argued so that it compels people to stop and ponder.

Just an opinion.

Gaufres
Gaufres
Nov 23, 2023 11:08 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I did not say the story wasn’t true. I simply said similar stories are told by both sides. They are very likely all true because hate breeds hate.

Ian
Ian
Nov 23, 2023 6:07 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Hedges thinks the Green Party is viable and is still entertaining the idea that Richard Wolff isn’t a retarded person. Let’s cool it with the praise.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 24, 2023 5:31 AM
Reply to  Gaufres

Eliminating illegitimate genocidal supremacist Israel is a legitimate goal. And you speak as though the Palestinians have the means to eliminate Israel. The reverse is as we are seeing, true.

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 23, 2023 3:22 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Obviously the little darlings singing of mass slaughter of Palestinians whose land they stole is not to be mentioned here among the supporters …of mass slaughter of Palestinians….

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 24, 2023 4:26 AM
Reply to  Johnny

So, you missed the news about liberals and orthodox Jews holding mass protests to try to oust the PM.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Nov 23, 2023 8:34 AM

Perhaps you could get aroused by whipping a submissive little Israeli/Republican/Argentine Libertarian/Ukrainian Oligarch, CJ?

Maybe your lack of arousal was due to lack of new stimuli? After all, emotions are a sign of recognising something new – once you’ve experienced something 100 times the emotions no longer flow.

So maybe you need to disgust yourself with your depraved levels of BDSM perversions, eh?

At least you’d feel part of the Biden Jnr/Berlusconi/Epstein/Clinton/Monday Club/Blair/who knows who else peccadillo masonic order, eh?

 😋 

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 8:06 AM

Leaving aside CJ’s introspections, am I alone in finding it a bit disturbing to see people looking on what appears to be a massacre (for whatever reasons), and going “Naaah, it’s all a show” ?

Isn’t it a bit like saying that nobody suffered from the Covid event since it was all staged?

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 8:29 AM
Reply to  October

But isn’t that exactly the argument used to shut down inquiry into real false flags or hoaxes such as the fake chemical attack in Syria and the numerous fake “terrorist” attacks? The establishment shills always swarm in and pretend to be outraged.

We have to be able to say it’s permissible to question EVERY narrative, even the ones involving mass death. If not we are giving the controllers s free gift. All they need to do is kill sufficient numbers of people and blame someone else or even just pretend a lot of people died and we will all self-censor our doubts because we have been told it’s always wrong to question the reality of death

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 8:46 AM
Reply to  Matt

I don’t quite get the argument about the fake chemical attacks in Syria. To my knowledge, people did die (not talking about the ridiculous spectacle from the BBC), the question was rather about who killed them.

Ian
Ian
Nov 23, 2023 6:09 PM
Reply to  October

Depends which attack you’re talking about. If I recall correctly, some were entirely fake and some were real but falsely attributed to Assad.

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 8:32 AM
Reply to  October

Isn’t it a bit like saying that nobody suffered from the Covid event since it was all staged?

Except the covid deaths WERE exaggerated and even staged up to a point and it was important to point that out, though when people did they were screamed down by others calling them “granny killers”.

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 8:41 AM
Reply to  Matt

Well yes, the Covid deaths were exaggerated. But untold damage was done to people, even in 2020, and we haven’t seen the end of the death and disability due to the injections.

So can we say “It was staged, so nothing happened”? I don’t think so. In fact, a lot happened, because it was staged.

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 8:49 AM
Reply to  October

People should be free to explore the idea nothing happened without being shut down by outrage. We don’t have to agree with them to recognize that.

If we let our critical thinking be shut down by images of violent death then the PTB will use violent death to shut us down. Maybe in fact they already are.

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 9:10 AM
Reply to  Matt

There is no outrage. Just a concern for facts. Though I do wonder about the need for indifference to violent death as a way of protecting our critical thinking, whatever that is.

To return to false flags, while the anthrax attacks in the US were proven false flags, the damage done to Iraq in retaliation was apparently very real. In case such as these, the first staged event enables response measures that are only too real (as in Covid).

We need to keep the two well separate, IMO.

Gaufres
Gaufres
Nov 23, 2023 9:31 AM
Reply to  October

Hold on please. I din’t think questioning the reality of certain alleged violent deaths in mainstream news is at all equivalent to being indifferent to actual violent death.

I saw images of the alleged violent deaths at the alleged Bruxelles airport bombing (I’m from Liège) that did not appear real to me. But I am not in any way indifferent to real violent death on any scale.

As you say, it’s about concern for facts, which means being open to all possibilities.

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 9:45 AM
Reply to  Gaufres

We agree. Open to all possibilities. But never indifferent to the facts.

judith
judith
Nov 23, 2023 8:06 PM
Reply to  October

What IS real about all the “covid deaths”, and there were many, was HOSPITAL PROTOCOL.
So now if anyone should say to me that the shots are a good thing because “so many people died of covid”, I have a FACTUAL response.
“Yes, many people DID die of respitory illness, and much of that was reported as covid, but people died because of remdesivir and ventilators and not being treated properly early on.
I am now convinced that had people who showed up at urgent care and ERs with trouble breathing and the symptoms attributed to covid, and been treated with oxygen, antibiotics, steriods and a few others, and given vit d, c and ivermectin, they would have ended up home in no time.
If people doubt me on that I just refer them to Children’s Health Defense Covid Bus tour with Polly Tommey.
The number of people that died, ALONE, because remember, most of the covid deaths took place during lockdown, is astounding. It almost dwarfs injection injury and death.
I hope the lawsuits open the floodgates.
The pandemic aspect might be made up, but many people did die of whatever you want to call it. It was murder at the hands of Pharma, the govt and the healthcare system.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 25, 2023 10:22 PM
Reply to  Matt

Ever since the end of WWII, the populations in Western democracies, unlike other populations, have never gone through the collective traumas so sustained in time as the row of closely followed crises the world is going through since 2020.

After the first trauma of the medical theatre and its totalitarianism, many are, not in denial, but in a close, numbed state of “I don’t want to know much about it, investigate it; let me alone; perhaps it’s not so tragic” kind of reaction. It is only human to go through this first stage.

This understandable reaction has shut down critical thinking for, as a rationalisation of the occurring tragedies, it is resorted to a kind of displacement whereby instead of relating the tragic events to a chain of cause and effect of prior events and arguing about them, the reasoning is about a different events such as the media coverage change, or isolated considerations about globalism.

Stages of grief:
Denial – Anger – Bargaining – Depression – Acceptance

Chicot
Chicot
Nov 24, 2023 12:45 PM
Reply to  October

Covid is somewhat different in that it should have been directly observable. We were told by the msm and government that a deadly plague was ravaging the land and that we must all stay indoors lest we die (or at least kill granny) yet where was the evidence for this? I don’t know anyone who was hospitalized for Covid let alone died. The only fairly famous person I can remember supposedly dying from it was Tim Brooke Taylor. Piers Corbyn, a man in his 70s, went up and down the country every week on public transport going to virtually every demonstration happening and taking no precautions yet never seemed to get ill. All these things directly contradict the Covid narrative the msm was trying to force down our throats.

As for Gaza, unless you are actually there you are not going to have any direct evidence of the situation. I think, given their past form and the videos and photographs released, it is pretty clear that Israel is bombing the shit out of it and that thousands of civilians are being killed though the exact number is open to question. I fail to see how people can reasonably argue that that is a “show”, though the events leading up to it are certainly suspicious (how did so many Palestinians get through the border so easily, why was the Israeli response so late etc…)

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2023 7:46 AM

The ‘Greenhouse Effect’, as it was first called, and promptly stomped on by oil companies and their ilk, is now called Global Warming and warmly embraced by those same companies. Funny that.

Meanwhile, it’s Springtime (and Fire season) in Perth, Western Australia.
Gotta wonder:

http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml?ref=hdr

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2023 5:45 AM

The pecking order has now been revealed:
1. The 1%
2. 1% minions.
3. Dogs.
99. Humans.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-23/voluntary-recall-leptospirosis-vaccine-dogs-adverse-reactions/103141524

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 4:40 AM

All moral judgements aside, as a base-level human emotion, hate is an human right. Indeed, it’s an existential reality.

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 5:45 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

“The world as Will and Idea” — Schopenhauer =

“Make perfect your will” — Eliot

“The Love that drives the Sun and the other stars” — Dante, Paradiso, Last Line.

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 8:35 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

All moral judgements aside, as a base-level human emotion, hate is an human right.

So is eating your own shit – doesn’t make it a good idea

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 2:26 PM
Reply to  Matt

“All moral judgments aside.”

Hate is baked into the cake of human existence. You can decide how much of it you want to eat, but it exists, nevertheless.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 24, 2023 4:37 AM
Reply to  Matt

Eating your own shit isn’t an emotion.

Raz Putin
Raz Putin
Nov 23, 2023 4:39 AM

You don’t know me from the wind
You never will, you never did
I’m the little Jew
Who wrote the Bible
I’ve seen the nations rise and fall
I’ve heard their stories, heard them all
But love’s the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
To say it clear, to say it cold:
It’s over, it ain’t going
Any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
You feel the devil’s riding crop
Get ready for the future:
It is murder-Leonard Cohen (excerpt from “The Future”)

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 6:05 PM
Reply to  Raz Putin

“You won’t like what comes after America.”

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 4:06 AM

Musical Interlude:

A Day In June
A Day In June
Nov 23, 2023 3:35 AM

The new “right-wing populist” president of Argentina, who began his questionable “career” in television, rejects all accusations of electoral fraud.

Biden and Sullivan congratulated him on his appointment, while Milei tweeted: “I hope to receive you soon in Argentina.” The meeting has apparently already taken place. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4323824-joe-biden-calls-argentina-president-elect-javier-milei/

Milei publicly waved an Israeli flag and paired his miniature native flag with the Israeli flag at his government residence.


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He says he wants to detach his country from China and Brazil and connect it with America and Israel instead: “I said that my two great allies are the United States and Israel … I have decided that my first trip as president should I be elected is going to be Israel.”

One of his Argentinian critics described him as an “obscurantist”. Milei was already invited as a guest of the WEF conference 2014 in Panama, introduced by a Jew named Ricardo Hausmann. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Hausmann

Translation: “If I’m president, write this down, I’m going to take the Argentine embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. And you know what, it was the capital that King David chose.” https://twitter.com/tiempodesanjuan/status/1540483654111166464

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Nov 23, 2023 2:49 AM

Hate-fatigue, or SAD (social animus deficit disorder)
You need to get the help you deserve with an accredited state mental health clinician and participate fully in society again.

Clem
Clem
Nov 23, 2023 11:47 AM

Nah. State mental health clinicians are agents of the state

wandering shoe
wandering shoe
Nov 29, 2023 6:57 PM
Reply to  Clem

agents of ‘The Hate’
helping to participstate

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 23, 2023 2:19 AM

Hate

If you don’t hate blood soaked genocidal monsters like Bibi Mielkowsky, Creepy Joe, Drumpf, Nikki Haley, Hagee, Chuck Schumer and so on you are morally bankrupt.

JoeC
JoeC
Nov 23, 2023 7:52 AM

Lots of people are okay with being morally bankrupt. It’s financial bankruptcy they fear most. It’s pretty obvious that’s why these genocidal monsters get away with what they do. Hardly anyone cares beyond their own lot in life.

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 8:59 AM

No. Hate is never a good or effective response. It shuts down thinking and quickly turns you into the monster you were once opposing.

Righteous anger is the right response. But that’s very different from hate.

Hate is amoral, destructive, ridiculous, reductive, unintelligent and self-replicating. It creates an endless dance macabre of vengeance and death.

Righteous anger retains a moral framework and a cool head. It seeks justice, not vengeance and never shuts down communication with and potential compassion for those on every side.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Nov 23, 2023 11:17 PM
Reply to  Matt

Great comment. I’m going to write that one down.

Paul
Paul
Nov 23, 2023 9:41 AM

Important distinction: hate their unrighteousness and ungodliness and their evil. Love even your enemies. For they know not what they do.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 2:10 AM

Dear Mr. CJ Hopkins, what is the opposite of hate?
Love. Here a strong message to all of us from Mother Theresa: https://youtu.be/CmrRYjGPP8Q

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 4:09 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

“…what is the opposite of hate?”

Some would say indifference.

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 5:48 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Indifference is the opposite of Love as well.

“Make perfect your won’t” — TS Eliot.

Bored now
Bored now
Nov 23, 2023 10:21 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Ah yes, Mother Theresa



Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 2:52 PM
Reply to  Bored now

So….someone cant say something right, because you can always pull something negative and bad out from your smearing sack that shows this person was absolutely not clean and perfect.

Has Christopher Hitchens ever made a video where he recognizes and praises someone?
Or has he always distanced himself from everybody to show himself as superior to everybody else?

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 23, 2023 9:36 PM
Reply to  Bored now

Hitchens was a warmongering neocon arsehole.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:31 PM
Reply to  Bored now

Hitchens was an erudite mess. Read his very last essay, penned in his last hours, a critique of another Catholic avatar, GKC, at The Atlantic. So conflicted and peevish.

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Nov 23, 2023 12:45 AM

Hate is a virus. You can catch it from the TV. Your TV seeths with propaganda from the cesspool of dead souls. Get a real life. Chuck your TV, plant a garden and experience the healing joy of new life facilitated by your own hand and mind.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 23, 2023 12:10 AM

“7. The murder of families. The wanton slaughter. I stared at the pictures of the blood-smeared bedrooms. The footage of the executions. I read the messages that people sent to their loved ones before they were shot to death.”

My reactiom was the same, I was looking at the videos and the news, when I woke up about miday UK time same day…about the same time….

I couldn’t make any sense of it “Hamas Tterrorists” – flying motorised hangliders with machine guns powered by lawn motors – petrol or diesel??? obviously the sun power wouldn’t do the job….and then they flew over the fence to attack a few hundred kids at the kind of festival I used to go to in the MED …I know the beaches, the people and the sea and the tides – some of the undertoes can be very difficult to survive if your are not wearing flippers, even if you think you are fit.

Personally I prefer The Red Sea to The Med…but the nost beautiful beach and sea, and we have done quite a few….almost Mid-Atlantic…Scilly Islands…just like wow

Some things you do for real….and you’ve got photographic evidence videos too – until it starts to get really stormy, and you shove the kids down below – and it’s all hands on deck..My Son Capt, and his Mum and Me…His brand new dinghy somplete with outbaord motor – the rope points were “glued” to the dinghy – and just snapped off. My son was not amused…I said just let it go…

Get Your Life Jacket on..Me to Captain…He Did…..

But “Don’t DO THAT”

I was Screaming At HIM….He turned his Sailing Boat 3 Times in a Storm, and got his Dinghy Back, without leaving his Sailing Boat.

I know how he thinks and has been trained to be a Captain of a Sailing Boat..Solent

That Dinghy could be Drowning Men,,,,and he would and has.

He can swim very fast, but storms can be incredibly fierce…

and there is a totally different ethos at sea – now its normally kids from all over the world…al the same – and all helping each other when in danger if they can or if you are just a bit stuck.

It’s not a Computer Game – Make the wrong Decision in Real Time…And You are Dead…

Look at us now.

It’s Not Good.

It does not make any sense.

All the elite people have gone mad, and they think they are in control.

Hating them doesn’t help. They are all Brainwashed and Braindead. Totally unresponaive.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Nov 23, 2023 12:09 AM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-11-22. WW3 Death Totals from jab surpassed 20M. Summer died suddenly. CV death rate U70 0.07%. IOW 1-in-1500 (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 5:56 AM
Reply to  Paul Prichard

From your Link (search for 20M):

“WW3 Death Totals have now allegedly surpassed 20M. If it wasn’t for all of you speaking up when it was incredibly difficult to do so…these numbers would’ve been much higher. Our Governments and MSM committed Treason and Genocide. (tweet).”

I cannot hate those mass murderers – one of them is our conscientsious holistic GP — but a Nuremberg Court should be set up for this World War on the Human Race.

les online
les online
Nov 22, 2023 10:46 PM

Recall those commenters who opined the War in The Ukraine
was questionable because of lack of video evidence ?
Well, at least 30 reporters in Gaza have been killed (High-priority
Targets), the internet and other media have been shut down…
Darkness has descended over The Killing Fields…
Already the corporate propaganda media’s (aka – msm) interest
has waned…There’s a numbness that sets in when, day after day
claims of Atrocities are reported…
The upshot is the killings by the perpetrators can go on: out of
sight out of mind ?
And without any visual evidence, well, “It’s not happening !”
And as The Victor gets to write History, the Vanquished are silenced…
Henceforth we’ll hear only one side’s propaganda, there’ll be
nothing to contradict it…(Its damaged image will be repaired)…
Didnt Baudrillard say something like “The War is not Happening” –
While the US bombed Iraq back to The Stone Age ?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 23, 2023 3:07 AM
Reply to  les online

Perhaps.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 23, 2023 5:40 AM
Reply to  les online

Great comment. If terrible things are happening and have happened in Ukraine it is the fault of the neocons. The same bastards that are driving the genocide in the concentration camp.

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 6:55 AM
Reply to  les online

“The upshot is the killings by the perpetrators can go on: out of
sight out of mind ?”

South Africa breaks diplomatic relations with Israel; Pretoria closes the Israeli embassy.

No “out of sight out of mind” for the country which invented Apartheid (pronounced, Apart-hate) tried it, and found it wanting.

“Mene, mene, shekel ufarsin” (counted, weighed and found wanting) — Old Testament, Daniel 5:27.

http://www.overstockart.com/painting/rembrandt-belshazzars-feast?option_id=8741&bc=748_858

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 23, 2023 7:33 AM
Reply to  les online

You’re right. The war is happening. For real. And the enmity is real. And the death is real. And it is not just a stage show.

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Nov 23, 2023 11:20 AM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

What’s really strange about all these “IT’S NOT FAKE” proclamations is that no one is saying it is fake.

CJ doesn’t say it, Catte Black didn’t say it, I can only find one commenter saying it, yet you guys react as if everyone is saying it. Weird.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 24, 2023 5:17 AM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

Not a war. A turkey shoot with F16’s.

Gaufres
Gaufres
Nov 23, 2023 11:14 AM
Reply to  les online

What Baudrillard meant by “the war is not happening” was absolutely not that no one was dying but that the framework for explaining the deaths known as the “Iraq War” was merely a propaganda term with no existence in reality.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 23, 2023 6:29 PM
Reply to  Gaufres

A. Who cares about Baudrillard?

B. Your explanation makes no sense.

C. The actual facts are simple. Israel is genociding Palestinians. Palestinians are the good guys. Israel is definitely the bad guys. Anybody who says otherwise, well, you know why.

D. The moderator above says “Perhaps.” That means he doesn’t believe it is real.

E. You state something that just isn’t true as if it is the truth. This site obviously says everything a false flag. That’s why I and everybody with any sense says it does. Because it does. It always does.

F. Well, I think the false flag is a false flag.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 22, 2023 8:56 PM

It’s not about hate. It’s about despair. What on earth can we do about the exceptionalism of the tiny elite? What to do about all the killing, the exploitation, the polluting, the destruction of habitat, the cheating, the lying, the control?

Paul
Paul
Nov 22, 2023 9:06 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Change yourself. Seek God. It’s all you can do and the best you can do.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 22, 2023 10:55 PM
Reply to  Paul

Which God?

vera
vera
Nov 23, 2023 12:18 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Higher Power, as best you understand it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 1:40 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Pray to Cosmos and ask for forgiveness for being such a lousy ignorant and ask Cosmos with your full heartfelt wish to be with God in your existence here on earth.
Then God will help you to know him.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 2:24 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Here is an Oxford Mathematician explaining which God. Search and you will find. https://youtu.be/VrIvwPConv0

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 4:12 AM
Reply to  Johnny

THE God.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 23, 2023 7:23 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

The Creative Power that created the multi-dimensional cosmos and all life is an energy, a Mind, and not a person.

And one day, all you ‘christians’ will discover that fact!!

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 10:21 PM

And you may find that your cocksure certainty may not be as accurate as you imagine it to be.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 24, 2023 1:01 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

No, it’s you ‘christians’ around the world who are the ones who will be getting the big shock, I assure you.

As I’ve stated a number of times here on Off-G, Spiritualism is the one and only ‘religion’ that is able to absolutely prove what it states (and I’ll here reiterate again that I’m not using the word ‘prove’ either loosely or wrongly). I’ve been a properly-informed Spiritualist for 29 years, & I’m one of the literally countless millions of other properly-informed people around the world who also know that what Spiritualism states is the proven truth.

Many people who, when on Earth were [different degrees of] ‘christians’, have communicated from the proven to exist Spirit dimension of this in fact multi-dimensional cosmos, and they all relate their horror when, on return to the Spirit world (that being our actual place of origin, as the eternal soul beings that we each are), they discovered that all the stuff which their vicars, priests, ministers, pastors, etc etc, had claimed to them, was all false; that what the vicars, priests, etc, on Earth, spew out, is nothing but BS.
That it’s all merely superstition, originating in paganism.
What vicars, priests, etc, spew out to their gullible flocks (of sheep…) is nothing but false dogma and false doctrine.
For the gullible, brainwashable masses to fall for, in their droves.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:35 PM

That’s funny, certain very holy men and women have told me otherwise, EVEN in spite of all the aforesaid institutional débris. Hmmm 🤔

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 26, 2023 1:47 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

All so- called ‘holy’ men and women are indoctrinated, brainwashed, uninformed people. They’ve fallen for the BS of man-made religion (foremost of which is the BS of ‘christianity’), and they oh so wrongly ridicule and ‘disbelieve’ the actual spiritual truths of existence.

They’ll all find out, on the day on which they do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’, that they’d been well and truly duped, when on Earth in their current incarnation.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 26, 2023 4:19 AM

So, you’re demonstrating your “machine” in solid working order?

Very on topic here. The machine bears an uncanny resemblance to a “broken record.”

Which makes sense, that explains the case of mistaken identity. It’s just a reflex.

Have you considered a change of channels? No pun intended.

Not to be cold or unkind, but seriously it reads like a verbatim screed you already posted to me a half year ago.

“There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” [OWTTE]

You are unyielding in not allowing genuine spiritual experience for Christians, as Christians.

Despite so much attested by great Christian mystics. Among so many others even not so mystic.

A conspiracy perhaps?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 26, 2023 10:44 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

We are NOT ‘machines’ (see 2nd paragraph, below).

I never (in this lifetime…) fell for the BS of ‘christianity’, am very proud to be a properly-informed Spiritualist. For, as I said in my post of a couple of days ago, it, Spiritualism, is the one and only ‘religion’ that is able to absolutely prove what it states (and, again to reiterate, I’m not using the word ‘prove’ either loosely or wrongly).

We are NOT ‘machines’; we’re all an eternal, immortal soul/spirit being ‘inside’ our physical body ‘coat’, and we’re all living what is, for each and every one of us, our eternal soul’s current lifetime. We’ve all lived many previous lives, and will each live many future lives, too. That is all absolute fact. Facts which 99.9% of ‘christians’ are totally unaware of. And the reason why they’re unaware of the actual facts/truths is because 99.9% of all vicars, priests, ministers, pastors, etc, around the world, themselves are not aware of those facts.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 23, 2023 3:20 AM
Reply to  Paul

. Exactly. We trend always into setting our sights on changing this or that, and I know, for one, how often I forget that such change does not occur in that way. It’s an amalgam of a million things, most of which we aren’t even aware. All (parts of) creation is/are individually trapped in futility, waiting ~ patiently, or impatiently – for God’s mercy.

Paul
Paul
Nov 23, 2023 11:17 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

We put faith in MAN. Therefore all our efforts self-centred, ignoring the one who made us. When we reach the end of ourselves, fall down on our knees and realise we alone can do NOTHING because we did not create ourselves or this universe. God did. We need His help. Thankfully He is a God of mercy so if we earnestly seek His forgiveness for our wrongs, He will renew our souls.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:36 PM
Reply to  Paul

Hearing my echoes……?

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 6:57 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

“Justice will come from the barrel of a gun” — Mao

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 22, 2023 8:41 PM

Always be ready to rumble:

PJ & Duncan – Let’s Get Ready to Rhumble

nylon
nylon
Nov 22, 2023 8:26 PM

Learn to recognize when hate starts brewing in your mind. As soon as you catch yourself reacting to the triggers (plenty of them around,and not only related to war),just STOP feeding your hate.
Resist the daydream of doing hatefull things as a revenge or as a form of justice. Hate is exactly what they want us to feel and therefore this is where resistance must be applied.

Jonny Nolan
Jonny Nolan
Nov 22, 2023 11:00 PM
Reply to  nylon

Very high-minded of you
Try to convince the Palestinians of Gaza to see things your way.

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 7:15 AM
Reply to  Jonny Nolan

In my very limited experience as a British expat in the Holy Land, I find the few Palestinians I have met or read about are far less hate-filled (and fear-filled) than their Jewish oppressors.

The great problem, as always, is “the silence of the lambs” ie, the indifference of the sheeple and their acceptance of injustice until injustice becomes too great to bear and something breaks.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 23, 2023 12:14 PM
Reply to  NickM

I thought you said you were African. This is rather confusing. A2

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Nov 23, 2023 3:17 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

He said he was South African if memory serves me correctly 🙄

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 23, 2023 4:46 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

Yes! I’m glad someone else remembers. I remember NickM described himself as ‘African’ in the same post, as many South Africans do I believe, and related being schooled there as a young boy during WW2. I remember distinctly.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

I suppose he could be both; it’s not as if the British are strangers to South Africa.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 24, 2023 3:08 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

African and a British ex-pat? How curious. Is this possible? Intriguing if so. A2

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 24, 2023 4:41 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It’s pretty simple. Say you’re a Brit, who moves to S. Africa and spends a lot of time there, years, maybe even becomes a citizen…it’s not that far-fetched, and it’s not as if the British don’t have an historic presence in South Africa.

Or, he/she could be bullshitting.

NickM
NickM
Nov 24, 2023 7:05 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Sam is too young to remember (or even to conceive of) an Empire on Which the Sun Never Sets.

NickM
NickM
Nov 24, 2023 7:03 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Young Sam, unbelievable as it may sound when you look at old Blighty today, there was once a time when we British painted the whole globe redcoat pink — including Africa. And her Majesty Queen Victoria issued big (1 inch diameter) bronze pennies for her subjects to jingle in their pockets to reassure us of that factoid. Those solid coins, though a little worn, were still in circulation — together with A4 size five pound notes — when I left my native country to escape Apartheid. Little did I dream that I would end up in another Apart-Hate country — the Holy Land of Israel and Palestine.

NickM
NickM
Nov 24, 2023 6:47 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

South African born and bred. What’s so confusing about that?

PS: Egyptians likewise are Africans: North African, part of the MENA.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 24, 2023 12:21 PM
Reply to  NickM

Well, what’s confusing is you and Pilgrim Shadow, who has suddenly and very attentively jumped in, have both started schooling me on British diaspora in South Africa and the British Empire in general (are you implying you were alive during the reign of Queen Victoria now?), yet neither of you seem to know what ‘ex-pat’ means, or feel this requires further elucidation.

Perhaps you had dual citizenship, but I just feel you’d have phrased it differently, and you wouldn’t be dancing around it now, if so.

There’s nowt so queer as folk! A2

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 23, 2023 3:16 PM
Reply to  NickM

Did you notice any Jews spitting at potential Christians? It’s another ritualistic thing for them.

Maybe this carnage will serve to force the zombie believers to wake up, or at least most of them.

NickM
NickM
Nov 24, 2023 7:10 AM
Reply to  mgeo

The only Jews who spat at anyone, that I know of, were not spitting at Christians but at their fellow Jews who were holding a placard that read “PEACE NOW”.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 23, 2023 2:09 AM
Reply to  nylon

So true. Very accurate and pithy analysis, and the core wisdom. Almost a Gospel, in a nutshell.

sandy
sandy
Nov 22, 2023 8:12 PM

I couldn’t edit my comment to adequately fix the link to the definitions of RESET, so here goes…

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sandy
sandy
Nov 22, 2023 8:00 PM

“stop thinking so much about what’s right and wrong”

The key phrase of their intent, which if our bearings, our compass were settled on right and wrong, we are not swayed. Thank you CJ!

BTW, just ran into an Andrew Kaufman talk and he cites Black’s Law Dictionary definition of RESET, which led me to a 1976 Webster’s definition. OMG. Primary “reset” definition is “”The receiving or harboring an outlawed person. Cowell.” This word is a warning, if anyone goes to the root meaning, that they are going take back all we “stole” and reset us into serfdom. And “resettlement” … Gaza… Pine Ridge… well we know what that is.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10222862706988631&set=a.1132857694052

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Nov 22, 2023 8:00 PM

So on Tuesday morning, no kids around, we were both lying naked in bed ( I had been sober on Monday).

I said, my hands look better than yours (she has got a bit of arthritis), yet we both wear our wedding rings…She had to get her’s made bigger…

So then we go on to our legs and feet…and then our arms

She asks why is your right arm thicker and stronger than your left arm?

She said is that your beer hand..and then got even ruder.

Is that your Wanking hand???

Sex at 70 after Sepsis????

No hate involved.

I am not quite 100% better yet, and love her to bits.

She is very fit and funny, and has not been jabbed.

She has saved my life more than once. When I got home from hospital after 23 days, a few weeks ago, I couldn’t walk more than a step or two with the help of a zimmerframe.

Now I am up for going down the pub…

Keep Up…

This is more about my Ex – but the same theme.

No Hate involved.

“Eric Clapton – Old Love (amazing live version)”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_j9KEjrY4o

.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 23, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  tony_opmoc

I think that ‘Tony_opmoc’ is, in all probability, a ‘bot’.

Why would any actual human being write on a public forum in the way that ‘tony_opmoc’ does??

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 22, 2023 7:47 PM

Alexander Cockburn said hate was good, “as long as your hate is pure.”

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 22, 2023 7:41 PM

I don’t get it. What is he going on about? Is there any information in this article?

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 7:20 AM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

He’s a Columnist and he’s going on about filling his Column. If you want information about Israel the tiny tip of the mighty Anglo Zio Capitalist mountain, consult a Communist.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 22, 2023 7:36 PM

Me & CJ, man, “de facto” doppelgängers, like peas in a little pod.

Men without a Reich, let alone a mere nation. Sharing that coldness.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 22, 2023 8:49 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Happy 60th Anniversary JFK, your efforts on our behalf (global) for peace will never be forgotten, nor will such heart ever fade!

I heard early Mass and many prayers were offered for peace et al., and twice the pastor suggested prayers and thanksgiving for parish musicians (11.22 the Feast of St. Cecilia, Patronne of musicians). And current calamities.

Not once though for our slaughtered Président. Not a word of prayer 🙏 in the sanctuary, and others were mum.

Even though the publicity is ubiquitous, without the marker or milestone, there are always many coffee table glossy “souvenir” books this time of year at market checkouts & news racks everywhere, “capitalizing” on the tabloid sensations of all that Dallas gore, cha-ching, and thanks for shopping with us, eat lotsa turkey. C ya’ on the 70th, then, and many happy returns meanwhile.

Just like Clockwork, in Orange County, “The OC.”

A woman sidled past me on the way out, wishing me “Happy Thanksgiving.”

I always hesitate around here, then plunge in anyway, “And Happy 60th Anniversary to JFK.”

SHE: “Is it really? I’d forgot. Good on you, we’re about the same age, but you remembered & I didn’t.”

ME: “Well, it was quite the calamity. And I guess I had some family involved with all that, so that makes the date stick.”

As we exited I said, “I keep a candle lit for those our fellow Catholics.”

Like the CJH Hate Machine, all the initial responses today were feeble at best.

But that’s par in OC, recently a neighbouring parish of Norbertine priests said Mass on the Feast of Pope St. John XXIII, a lofty prophet, author (by heavenly proxy) of the Second Vatican Council.

His name was not offered in prayers even once, rather a shocking absence for a recently canonized Saint, and Pope. Not the same with Pope John Paul II, who is honored broadly on his feast. It’s understood though that J23 is really never mentioned. A sainted persona non grata? Wouldn’t be the first! A few modern saints are very polarizing. Very politicized.

Of course, John XXIII, (as Graham Greene called him, “Pope John Roncalli”) was a close practical ally of JFK in their backchannel peace negotiations with Krushchev that eventful year. Both were dead and buried within 5 months of each other, I remember as a lad seeing”Good Pope John” lying in state in Rome about the time of JFK’s critical & historic American University Speech, June 1963, not long for this world (either speech or martyr). Nikita, too, was putsched out of office within less than a year after JFK.

Contrast that with the San Diego Cathedral a few years ago, the Rector of St. Joseph, downtown, preached at some length about JFK, his death and legacy, on St. Cecilia Day. Of course, he grew up in the barrio there speaking Spanish as his first language, and it’s all inner city for some miles, 100 miles south of here in Costa Mesa.

But Monsignor Nava was wonderfully thorough, he spoke about the inspirational side of JFK, the impact of that day, and asked for prayers for widow Jacqueline and other family as well.

What a difference locations will make in polarity! Even so, San Diego is one giant “defense” installation from stem to stern. Navy, Marines, Coast Guard, and all the rest. Military chaplains all staffing the local parishes too, may be considered satellites of our “defense” activities? Sure seems so.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 1:51 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

If only Lee Harvey Oswald hadnt been there to plan it all out, JFK would have got rid of the secret societies and saved us all!
Meaning Lee Harvey was worse than Hitler. This is my opinion and I have the right to have my free speech and my voice heard!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 23, 2023 3:28 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Serious? You think LHO did it, despite a mountain (range) of evidence showing so many others tied into it? Dozens involved dying violent deaths just before their scheduled HSCA testimony?

Sheesh. Some people. You must be on something wild to rail that way about rights. Hope it’s legit. Or just farce away for the entertainment value, takes all kinds, have a good laugh and prank on

Hele
Hele
Nov 23, 2023 6:55 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

60%of the public -at the time of JFK’s murder- did not believe the official story.
You are out of touch.
This is the best review of the latest documentary on the assassination of the young president ,”What the Doctors Saw”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/11/23/fzdu-n23.html

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 3:05 PM
Reply to  Hele

Thanks for the link.
But these 60% who dont trust our government wants to use our Constitution as toilet paper.
They are Commies who all days have laid under our beds waiting for the right moment to destroy our country and make it into China.
Therefore I still believe in my government!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 27, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Probably just the Bogeyman. He’s under so many beds.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 26, 2023 6:25 AM
Reply to  Hele

The late John Judge, a then Dallasite and prolific in the “Conspiracy Realist” community, took many internal polls that regularly showed 85% of public believed the JFK Hit was a government conspiracy. (I was on his mailer for COPA yearly in Dallas, til it stopped in 2014 with his ‘demise’.)

The 60% figure has a helluva lotta Gallup pollster ballast added.

Big Polling sure is a conspiracy! So there’s that one at least, confirmed. The big ones are all run by the Reich.

judith
judith
Nov 23, 2023 8:23 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

It never occurred to me that Pope John the XXIII died the same year as President Kennedy. And Kruschev soon after.
I remember Pope John well, as I attended Catholic School.
And although young, I was tuned into “Camelot”. Caroline was a few years younger than me. And then there was John John.
I would take the illusion of that Camelot to the horror of the present reality anyday.
I don’t care what anyone says, there was a sense of hope, of purpose.
I felt that even as a third grader.
Thank you for the acknowledgement and memories, John.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 24, 2023 6:10 PM
Reply to  judith

The closer we get to God the more light we receive. Congratulate you for a fine experience.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 24, 2023 9:57 PM
Reply to  judith

Yes, but in fact Nikita K survived only to step down wisely, when he saw the writing on the global wall. All three peacemakers out of power within 15 months! Amazing. Dr Norman Cousins, later a clan of my father’s Law firm from his years teaching nearby at UCLA, tells that amazing story in his 1972 book “The Improbable Triumvirate.” [It is noteworthy that both he and my old man were given the United Nations Peace Medal in the 1970s, such a politicized prize like Nobel. I am not sure what that means but it’s suspicious at least. Lest we forget, before my father represented him (I believe) Cousins was JFK’s handpicked “clandestine” (“backchannel” ~ but no doubt known by Dulles & Hoover) liaison between the three: JFK and Krushchev and Good Pope John

I don’t trust Caroline at all, not a particle or follicle. She seems very compromised and I don’t like all of that about her.

John Jr. Had a lot of promise, so young, and was also yet another Kennedy assassination (as I sincerely believe was Bobby’s son David, not a self-inflicted OD.)

You got that right about the virtues of Camelot! Maybe somewhat a bit a fairy tale but grandly forward looking and motivational for us all.

Look what the New Macbeths left us in its place!

Wow, a big drag, generationally.

[I highly recommend Polanski’s 1970 film “Macbeth” to expose the skeleton of that whole age-old power structure! So revealing. He knew a thing or two about Nazis. Both his pregnant mother when he was six and his expectant bride when he was 36, were savagely butchered by them. That will leave a tattoo or two, and a telling one.

And so he tells us. Truth be told!)

judith
judith
Nov 25, 2023 12:05 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Not to get into the weeds, John, but I wonder why you think David Kennedy did not die of the OD. Of course, I would not doubt for a second malfeasance, but what would have been the purpose. He wasn’t political. Would it have just been “out to get the Kennedy’s”?
Well, I have a soft spot for Caroline and I would cut her an enormous amount of slack.
I did not know that about Cousins! Although I did read Douglas “The Unspeakable”.
I just listened to an interview with Cindy Sheehan and John Barbour that was recorded ten years ago on the anniversary of JFK assasination. Very interesting. Then I watched Barbours “Jim Garrison” documentary.
Both the story of getting the doc made, and the doc itself. Good lord.
Lots of info we all know,but to listen to Garrison and others back then.
Interesting.
How anyone can possibly believe LHO shot and killed Kennedy is just beyond belief.
God was the poor guy set up.
Love reading your stories, John.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Nov 26, 2023 5:13 AM
Reply to  judith

Right back at you, Judith. (Are you the same Judith, posting here several years ago as an actress who got cast in a big film then the lead was re-cast, and venue changed, or do we seek another? Spotty on my details.)

I would worry more about tall weeds if it weren’t for the fact that as I dig so many of my deep weed digs are proven right, time and time and again.

I didn’t do an exhaustive dig into David Kennedy’s whole deal, a bad one, he was Bobby’s favorite and they had been surfing in Malibu the day Bobby was shot. Then Pierre Salinger snapped out of it after the dark deed done, at Bobby’s side and remembered that they had just left David upstairs in the suite to watch it on TV. Pierre left the assassination scene and went racing to the elevator and threw open the door to find David nearly catatonic unmoving as he watched the screen, and the lovely touch that the networks put on the whole fiasco, training the cameras on Bobby as he bled out on the greasy pantry floor.

An amazing fun fact is that I served Pierre Salinger at a high brow embassy party in the Paris (très) 16èmé only 6 years later, offering a tray of the hostess’ vaunted Swedish meatballs. It was held at the apartement of William Tannen, head of USIS which became USIA (U.S. Information Services, then rebranded).

That had to be another brand of C👁️A, no two ways about it? Connected to Gladio no doubt. A dapper fellow introduced himself when I offered him hors d’oeuvres,as Giscard’s Press Secretary,l the Paris equivalent of Pierre, although Pierre was surely a frequent visitor, his flat where I delivered Dom Pérignon every Friday afternoon (2 cases from Fauchon’s!) was across the street, 50 yards tops, from the unimposing double door gate to Élysées Palace. Rue de Rivoli I think? Next to Place de la Concorde, where all The guillotines had been so busy two centuries before. I had just then overheard Salinger prognosticate, a few feet away, “It’s gotta be Frank Church or Fritz Mondale, I just can’t see any other real choice.” That was April ’74, so I guess the now nearly centenarian peanut farmer was not yet on his menu!

What was going on? They must have been trying to recruit me, I was the only waiter, holding a tray, and all the other servers were Parisian bar maids in those vintage b&w tutus, old school. I had arrived in Paris so broke just weeks before, and soon was given a hand me down job from an au pair girl going back stateside (so she said). Rebecca gave me a snip of paper with address, 8 Place Victor Hugo, a transgenerational American Embassy residence passed on age to age I soon discovered, swank as can be. I was hired then & there when I knocked on their massive door, then to look after the 5, ahem, WASP children, quite a gang.

I had zero credentials and connections, yet I was being connected all over Paris, broke as I was. I fell in with a champion fencer, Jean-Michel Lorin, who it later turned out was a baron. He took me under his wing now and then, often enough, showed me around. Meanwhile, I was befriended some weeks later by Richard Fitzbarron, if memory serves. I know he was the Baron of Burnchurch. He had recently returned from the French Foreign Legion, which he said he had escaped (from their prison in Madagascar. Some NASA employees had to rescued him to his everlasting veneration of Americans, perhaps explaining his fondness.)

Long story, if very colorful. His fiancee had sea-sickness, so he asked me if I could take over for him house-sitting Sterling Hayden’s barge on the Seine, just down a few ripples from Notre Dame. Years later, back in LA, I recognized it as the home away from home for Adrian Paul in his role as The Highlander immortal in the TV adaptation! He had a powwow with Rodger Daltrey of The Who, who is playing another immortal in one episode, and I recognized with great surprise the bookshelves and the decor which is very old. It was Shakespeare & Company, and George Whitman had let me and a number of other American expatriates sleep on the floors (or the couches upstairs) in exchange for sweeping them when we got up and some light chores!

That was where I’d met Richard and he buddied up with me .y first year or so. He had lucked out on the Sterling Hayden barge and I got as far as house sitting when he took me down into Sterling Hayden cabin and showed me what lookd like railroad ties that had turned green with age and had me guess what they were. I drew a blank and he said they were nails from the HMS Bounty.

Well I could go on and on, like having lunch downstairs in the Cave with the small cathedral staff, a few seats from Madam Romanoff, and finding out 25 years later that she was the dowager empress of Russia, or at least the chief pretender.

Where was I? O yes, Pierre Salinger finding a 12-year-old David nearly comatose watching the shooting of his father on the network feeds live from 100 yards or so down and away in the Ambassador.

The online reportage about his last month’s is like so many things like this that I see just shut up with red flags right left and every which Way but loose. For me the key is not getting Point by point through the omissions more than what is actually recounted. And it is also suspicious like the so-called evidence of kick Kennedy’s plane crash in southern France 1948 on her honeymoon. Both of those deaths and many others related just stink to highest heavens.

He was dating a famous actress I forget her name now but she was a big draw then and he seemed quite happy and outgoing and forward looking, and although there have been spotty reports over the years of his drug use, as far as I recall that really wasn’t a problem for him at the time and his supposed overdose is so rife with all sorts of pesky contradictions.

Having seen so much BS clogging cyberspace, I have learned pretty well to read between the lines. I came to the conclusion without more evidence that he was a likely homicide disguised as an accidental overdose. Or whatever.

I can see them all the time such as David Carradine whose family paid for a independent autopsy and the eminent me said that the details were not consistent with the suicide. You can find that recounted but like all the rest of us the big clue is that it was heavily muted, another way for Big Time deep State suppression of fact,

Cheers! I’ve carried on here long enough for the hour! 🤔😱🙏

judith
judith
Nov 26, 2023 1:43 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Yes, John. Same actress.
I was in Paris in 1977. Went over on Freddie Laker to London. Had a childhood friend living in Paris so visited and stayed for a few months. What a lark!
Biked all over the city. Took trains everywhere.
Was seen by the famous French casting director Margot Capelier for the movie A Little Romance. Good story there.

The Kennedy’s were staying at John Frankenheimer’s home on the day and night of RFK’s assassination, I believe.

I think David, or one of the kids, went under when surfing, and RFK had to swim out to rescue. I cannot remember where I read that story. I’m sure you could reference it.

From what I understand, he had been sober for awhile when he was discovered in his hotel room (or motel?) dead from an OD. I believe it was during a family event.

I know people think the Kennedy’s were and are priviliged, and perhaps impervious to the problems of regular Joe’s, but I believe they have experienced more trauma than most of us will ever know or experience. And have had to experience it in a fish bowl.

I have some good Kennedy stories myself. But do not want to usurp Offg space. Too bad we can’t start threads! Wish I had a proton email address but not that sophisticated enough yet.

Love the Paris stories. Love that city.

Thanks for your thoughts.

gordan
gordan
Nov 22, 2023 7:23 PM

in london town on radio classic fm plays the theme music violin refrain from schindlers list 3 times a day…re enforce ing a myth

Evil has separated itself from the masses it was concealed in. It is as if the colors of Evil stand out among the uniform collective that Evil used to cloak itself in. It is being exposed and made vulnerable. It cannot pretend to be The Good Guys any longer, not since it tried to poison The World and… The… World… found… out.

it seems we where the bad guys all along history a lie
bbc and darwin pasteur all shite anglo zion dung pile

Emily Durron
Emily Durron
Nov 22, 2023 7:17 PM

Something that is underdiscussed is that it is entirely legitimate not to feel anything for Palestinians or Israelis or Ethiopians or your next-door neighbour or your colleague at work or anyone. You are not obliged to get emotionally involved with any of them.

The demand made by the western media that everyone should be emotionally involved in everything from four boys drowning in Wales to thousands dying in Gaza. They are manipulating you at every step. Just like if your neighbour dies of old age or your coworker loses his job, you do not have to feel anything about it.

I am not suggesting we should all be cold heartless bastards, but nor is it the case that we should allow them to manipulate us.

Antonym
Antonym
Nov 23, 2023 1:37 AM
Reply to  Emily Durron

The biggest and oldest “hate-machine” on Earth is Islam, not Western MSM. We are all kufr, second rank potential slaves according to 1500 year old standards.
The Mecca-Syndrome wants us to forget that; criticizing that ideal-less ideology is potentially deadly; just ask Theo van Gogh, Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Salman Rushdie. The best way out is educating the Muslim masses out of obscurity, which should be done now with the many the West let in. The treatment of Muslim women is literally covered up plus they are under house arrest just to please the male sexual ego. We overcame cannibalism, why not this dark cult?
It did give the world two positives, great architecture and the push to use life force contrary to Buddha’s or Christ’s aloofness to the surrounding world. That vital force was only applied to the wrong goal, surrender to the one’s ego to fight all others instead of surrendering one’s ego and thus connecting with all others.

Hate should neither leave us untouched or freaked out; we should see it for what it is, a negative, limiting ego trip instead of a healthy widening caution.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 3:27 AM
Reply to  Antonym

So……..you want Muslin women out of the house to participate in swinger clubs, gay parades, enter the military, lay off their children to the socialists, take off their Burqa to pour dirt, hair, dandruff down in the soup, shower only once a day to be like Western women?

Hele
Hele
Nov 23, 2023 7:18 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Orthodox Jewish men aren’t that great towards women either, buddy.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 23, 2023 12:24 PM
Reply to  Hele

So many flies on walls in Muslim / Orthodox Jewish homes, it seems. I’m glad you can all speak with such authority on behalf of so many. Not at all colonial in mindset, I’m sure. Does the question become which savage is more noble?

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 7:27 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Correction:

“The biggest and oldest “hate-machine” on Earth is” Zionism.

“And when thou conquerests the Land thou shalt kill every man: Yeah, even the baby boy in his cradle” — Old Testament.

Matt
Matt
Nov 23, 2023 9:12 AM
Reply to  Antonym

The sheer lack of self-awareness you betray is like an object lesson in why hate always destroys those who let it in.

You deplore Islam for being, in your opinion, a “hate-machine”. Unaware that YOU are also now a “hate-machine” of your own. Intolerant of the intolerance you claim to see. Hating the hate you believe is there.

If you hate hate you become hate and surrender your entire self to the thing you believe you oppose.

Antonym
Antonym
Nov 23, 2023 10:07 AM
Reply to  Matt

Being tolerant to intolerance has not worked out in Europe or the Indian sub Continent. Stupidity is not learning anything from past mistakes.
Seeing Muslim street hate today for what it is doesn’t make me hate anything, it only exemplifies what I meant. I see mass brainwashing that needs to be undone, not in the CCP’s Xinjiang way but more enlightened.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 8:23 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Meanwhile, a “man” in Dublin, has stabbed several people iincluding children, while the Garda has condemned a “complete lunatic faction driven by far-right ideology” for violence following the stabbing incident.

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/11/23/dublin-stabbing-attack-live-updates-three-children-injured-chief-suspect-detained/

Sorry Ireland, your owners have sold you out.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Nov 23, 2023 8:25 AM
Reply to  Emily Durron

Humanity is about feeling compassion for your fellow man.
If you have an accident I assume you take it for granted that people would come to assist you?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 5:36 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Absolutely not. I would take it for granted that everybody ran away in order to not get involved nor disturbed in their busy shit lives.
Only my fat wallet would ensure my mistress, children, and “friends” and health care system came to my rescue.

Feeling compassion for my yellow man?
I cant feel compassion for 1,4 billion Chinese before THEY have showed compassion for ME, …..and they should show it in a sincere way that they really really mean it by heart…first!  🕵 

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Nov 22, 2023 7:15 PM

Serious Dislike part 3

Monitoring what other people write, is the most boring job in the world…yet almost everyone is addicted to it.

When your pager is going off, at 6:00am cos the Service you are Responsible for is not Providing any Service, you wake up and have a look…I was trying to work out wtf had gone wrong, before the phones started ringing at home….by which time my wife was awake. I wracked my brains, but couldn’t work out what was wrong. So I turned all the phones and bleepers off, and made myself a cup of coffee. I went outside at dawn and sat on my swinging hammock and thought about the problem.

One Server had gone down. The Other one was totally overloaded. I thought how tf do I turn the Bandwidth Down…all these X25 pipes coming in – but none getting through. I turned then all off, apart from one..and The Service was working again. In fact the full Service was working by 9:00 am, and I was really chuffed with myself.

I turned up at work about 10:00am, expecting to be congratulated, but was escorted to The Senior Management Office…

I was very cool, not mad, no hate and not hyper…and I explained the Management’s problem to them.

“I had submitted a fully costed Paper, with regards to the Service that we are providing, way beyond its original design capacity. The Service has grown , and we need another Server – cost about £100K . We have just lost over £2M, cos you did not approve my Paper”

I then went to change the failed Disk Drive, and soon got my Third Server.

Then I thought wtf and Resigned

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Nov 22, 2023 7:06 PM

Choose the side that yields the most,
thirty peaces of silver, the value of the heart.

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Nov 22, 2023 6:49 PM

I have never run my own blog, except an internal one about 1999. The large company I worked for sent me on loads of technical courses including how to write HTML So I built my blog, (without asking Management for authorisation) so the Engineering Support Team, could resolve most of the minor administrative problems, themselves, without paging me or phoning me up, when I was down the pub.

Of course if the System had Crashed, which it rarely did. I would normally know about it, before all the phones and pagers started screaming.

Good Luck to Anyone, who wants to do that now.

Monitoring what other people write, is the most boring job it the world…yet almost everyone is addicted to it.

Emily Durron
Emily Durron
Nov 22, 2023 6:38 PM

This article is exactly on point. Like lots of people that read offguardian, I observe the world firstly through what is fed to us by the London MSM. I know I shouldn’t, but I still read the Graun because it’s free. I read a whole bunch of other stuff, don’t worry, but when I wake up and check out what’s going on, you know where I look.

I am apparently in a teeny tiny minority of people that recognise that all their output is hate-filled propaganda designed to make us think of people in other countries as subhumans that cannot be allowed to make their own decisions or should simply be eradicated.

Hate Saddam. Hate Gaddhafi. Hate Covid deniers. Hate climate deniers. Hate Putin. Hate Russians. Hate China. Hate India. Hate Bolsonaro. Hate anyone that doubts Western perspectives. Hate Assad. Hate the French. Hate all those that are not what you want them to be.

Hate them all. Then destroy them and all their babies using your magnificent military.

Paul
Paul
Nov 22, 2023 9:13 PM
Reply to  Emily Durron

Honestly you need to ask yourself why you willingly subject yourself to such lies and hate.

petunia petherington
petunia petherington
Nov 22, 2023 6:15 PM

Mr Hopkins…when you talk about ‘the embodiment of evil’, why is it you have too mention ‘nazis’? Why don’t you mention the Bolsheviks, who are the real embodiment of evil’?

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 2:51 PM

History is written by the winners?

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Nov 22, 2023 6:13 PM

I spent 30 mins replying to CJ Hopkin’s post like you do on OffG’s blog…before I had even logged in.

It’s gone before I pressed Send, so I can’t blame OffG’s moderator for the deletion, unless he/she has got online access to my computer, which I find highly unlikely. I think even GCHQ, wouldn’t be the slightest bit interested in deleting anything I wrote.

Maybe – being Pre-Banned is a Special Reward?

If nothing you write never appears, the Heavy Squad will probably not bother coming round again. What have they to complain about unless you go mouthing off down the pub?

I actually got on well with them last time. I told him to take off his Mask, and he did. He was English, but I am getting a bit Deaf…What would you like to know ? Speak Clearly.

Not all Coppers are Bent. He gave me his card – give us a call.

No Hate was involved. He seemed a nice bloke.
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Tony

nina
nina
Nov 22, 2023 5:34 PM

The whole war machination has been so far outsmarted by muslim countries refusing to engage in a war against genocidal israhell
. That is a very positive and unespected development untill now. Palestinians are again paying the high price of western policies. But now israhell is exposed and has nowhere to hide and ” play victim”

gordan
gordan
Nov 22, 2023 5:06 PM

like a school timetable for the goyim
one event trans itioning from one to the other.
gladio daddio

maybe if we had a gaza a covid monkey virus a ukrainia rain snow climate crisis all on the same day it would help
putin moves into ukrainia and covid is gone just gone.

when mass death comes calling i gp to the chabad website and look up what holiday the khazarian mafia are having simply click on so called jewish holiday section.

all sides seem to be banka satan run
slaves debt and death

give the goyim bread give them the circus
maybe not entertained but occupied.

land clearances work just ask a crown corporation civil servant

 “The state of Israel must invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the methods of provocation and revenge… And above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space.” — From the diary of Moshe Sharett, Israeli’s first Foreign Minister from 1948-1956, and Prime Minister from 1954-1956.

Jonny Nolan
Jonny Nolan
Nov 22, 2023 4:18 PM

I only read to the part where you repeated unsubstantiated Israeli atrocity stories
Lies that were used to justify murder
You showed your true colors baby.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 22, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  Jonny Nolan

Try not missing the point. Reading the whole of articles might help there. A2

Jonny Nolan
Jonny Nolan
Nov 22, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I did reread it
He repeated the Israeli point that the resistance committed outrageous atrocities
No where did I see him qualify that statement.
The fact is there has been no independent investigation of Israeli claims
NONE.
So, why would any objective person accept them as true?
On the other hand we see with our own eyes the monstrous atrocities Israel is committing.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 23, 2023 3:05 AM
Reply to  Jonny Nolan

I think that maybe you are not one of those people who think that both sides are exactly equal.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Nov 22, 2023 8:30 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I don’t know sam, some no longer get irony or satire, they only understand binary thinking and emotional outrage. Course, it could be just as you said that no one actually reads an entire article anymore, God knows how common that trait is in our modern world. Who needs to finish a sentence when there is outrage to be had so quickly and easily.

Jonny Nolan
Jonny Nolan
Nov 22, 2023 10:57 PM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

I know satire
I do satire all the time
But making a statement that the resistance committed atrocities without at least an “allegedly” added gives people the impression that the atrocity actually happened and he’s just making light of it.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 23, 2023 4:31 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Eventually we’re going to reach a point where things are demonstrably either/or (maybe we’re already there?), but there will always be some who parse infinitely everything into nihilistic relativism.

At some point, the Judge, having heard all sides of the argument, must make a determination.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 22, 2023 9:57 PM
Reply to  Jonny Nolan

I’m sorry I accidentally downvoted you. The alleged events of 10/7 certainly deserve hard scrutiny.

October
October
Nov 23, 2023 12:17 PM

Absolutely, and the MSM are certainly not going anywhere near what exactly transpired on that day.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 22, 2023 4:18 PM

Der wild gewordener kleinbürger. The banality of evil. The disturbance of my safe space.
I were jus following orders. See ordinary Americans behaviour inside the dull house. https://youtu.be/IteUaj7KaYQ Abu Ghraib.
The Milgram test shows 80% of us can end up like these ordinary middle class citizens.
Your neighbour is your worst enemy.

NickM
NickM
Nov 23, 2023 7:55 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Even closer, that face in the mirror is your worst enemy:

“True civilization is not aircraft nor electronics nor self-guided missiles. True civilization is concerned to diminish the traces of original sin” — Baudelaire.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 23, 2023 5:39 PM
Reply to  NickM

Not bad. I buy that one.