LIVESTREAM: Digital ID – The Foundation for Technocracy
The second Independent Media Alliance Panel sees Ryan Cristian, Whitney Webb, Catherine Austin Fitts and Iain Davis going in depth on the global roll-out of digital identity technology. Including their potential to control people, how nations plan to make them interoperable, how they are pitched as the solution to multiple created crises and more.
Will be livestreamed from 19.30 BST (14.30 Eastern).
You can read the press release announcing the launch of the IMA here, and watch the first panel on the nature of “fake binaries” here.
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I wrote and narrated a poem inspired by Catherine Austin Fitts’ introduction to the Independent Media Alliance’s second live-stream:
The Five Pillars of The Great Enslavement
To Sophie in Admin.:
Thank you, Sophie, for rescuing my 2nd reply to Hannah. I’d not been online after 5pm yesterday, so have only just seen your message to me.
Why do some posts get ‘sent to trash by Akismet’? Can’t the system be ‘tweaked’ in some way, to prevent that sort of thing happening?
Admin: I sent you a short message shortly after 2.20pm this afternoon re. my post to Hannah timed at 2.20pm. It had gone into ‘pending’; I asked you to please ‘release’ it for publication. I see that it still has not been printed. Can you please ‘allow’ that post to be published; if it’s not, it would indicate that you were censoring it. Which would be hypocritical, bearing in mind the fact that you publish articles here on Off-G re. the horrific censorship that is being perpetrated worldwide.
Your reply to Hannah is right where you put it, Christine.
EDIT – oh, I see you were talking about a second one that didn’t get thru. It had been sent to trash by Akismet. I rescued it.
Thank you, Sophie. I’d not been online after 5pm yesterday, so have only just seen your message this morning.
Why do some posts get ‘sent to trash by Akismet’? Can’t the system be ‘tweaked’ in some way, to prevent that sort of thing happening?
Why the fake image; i.e. Trump and Harris supposedly united with hands raised and joined together?
I think it’s intended to convey that they are both essentially on the same team and working toward the same goals, or perhaps more accurately, mere actors in the same scripted drama
I agree that that is the impression that Cristian (et al) is aiming to “convey”. However, if that were an accurate description of reality, it would surely be better to present evidence – properly sourced and argued. This would demonstrate that Trump and Harris are in that sort of relationship you describe. The implication, given that Cristian chose to fake an image rather than present rational discourse, is that no such evidence exists; or maybe that he’s just dialed-in his project work.
At the start of one of Cristian’s videos, there’s a montage of very similar statements coming from both Trump and Harris. This, presumably, is intended to convey the same impression as the fake image. However, there is a straightforward explanation as to why the statements would be similar. That is, both teams are marketing their message to the same demographic (i.e. middle America); and they have profiled this demographic and come up with identical lists of key issues. As far as I know, nowhere does Cristian present this as a possible explanation. Instead, he merely wishes to convey an impression of unity between Trump and Harris.
Looking around, it seems the foundation for technocracy is and has been the cell phone. That’s been the laboratory, training ground and pusher that got everyone hooked. Add a little digital ID, some QR codes, etc., mix it in a pot and you have totalitarian technocracy. And I bet everyone on that panel and here at Off G uses one.
There is such a thing as “de-googled” so-called smart phones. As usual, it is not about The Technology, but the use to which The Technology is put.
This arguments extends to practically every bit of surveillance-and-control technology that is currently intended to subjugate us to The Agenda. In a legitimately democratic, transparent, open and egalitarian context (i.e. not compatible with scarcity-based, structurally restrictive, competitive, secretive economic models) it could all be used to facilitate the permanent liberation of humanity from the coercive scarcity of nature. It’s just that 99% of people are afraid to even think the thought.
I must admit I haven’t watched the whole thing yet so this may have been covered later, but one thing that occured to me was that I was surprised to hear Starmer recently saying ‘no’ to a digital ID (which seems to go against what his boss Blair’s plan is) This really surprised me at the time as I expected him to be all for it. So what the panel were saying about how the ID won’t be a single ‘card’ makes sense. Blair will get his digital ID by the back door but Starmer can say he didn’t push for Digital IDs and assuage those with concerns. Basically the pair of them are working together to push through a digital ID in whatever guise, under the radar. I’ll leave it there before I start going into how I feel about the pair of them.
This has been in the works since at least 1970. Known for hating Russia and loving endless US taxpayer funded wars, Zbigniew Brzezinski was at center of US government for decades with both political parties. In 1970 he wrote ‘Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era’. From Matthew Ehret:
“The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society.
Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values.
Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”
Brzezinski continued his dystopic vision saying:
“The nation-state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multi-national corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state”.
If you were thinking “hey this sounds a lot like Klaus Schwab’s concept of ‘stakeholder capitalism’ first unveiled at Davos in 1973, then you would be on to something.”…
I agree Susan. The technocrats don’t belong to any ‘side’. They keep most of us divided and distracted.
I recommend this video which shows the current, bigger picture. Led by Catherine Austin Fitts, with David Hughes and Patrick Wood.
Omniwar Symposium | Sept. 21 | Childrens Health Defense
Who Gets to Control the Control Grid?
https://web.archive.org/web/20201124015316/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/06/02/trump-can-win-argument-huawei
Trump can win his argument over Huawei
Christopher Williams
Deputy Business Editor
The Telegraph (UK)
2 June 2019
When our politicians refer to the “special relationship”, in most respects they are fantasising. The transatlantic links between spooks are genuinely special, however, and a foundation of Britain’s security. Only serious matters of trust have threatened the bond. The Americans cut us off, for instance, after it turned out that several senior members of the British intelligence establishment were in fact KGB agents. Repairing the damage caused by Kim Philby et al took years. In comparison with such geopolitical concerns, a delay of even two years to the roll-out of 5G networks as Huawei antennas are replaced with alternatives from Nokia or Ericsson is trivial.
“Huawei antennas are replaced” links to:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201108002059/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/06/01/china-rigs-5g-test-favour-huawei
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/huawei-to-be-removed-from-uk-5g-networks-by-2027
Press release
Huawei to be removed from UK 5G networks by 2027
Decision follows a technical review by the National Cyber Security Centre in response to US sanctions
From: Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, National Cyber Security Centre and The Rt Hon Oliver Dowden CBE MP
Published: 14 July 2020
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Coronavirus outbreak: Conspiracy theorists burn 5G towers, claiming link to COVID-19
Global News
May 14, 2020
Some conspiracy theorists are falsely linking 5G, the fifth generation of wireless mobile technology, to COVID-19 outbreaks. Jeff Semple looks at what started this hoax, how it spread like wildfire on social media and how it ignited attacks on cellphone towers.
The only reason we’re still able to debate these issues is because there’s a conflict between oligarchical factions. I’ll denote the two primary factions as Globalism and Pax Americana. People have no difficulty accepting that Pax Americana blew up Nord Stream, but they seem reluctant to even consider the possibility that it torched the Huawei network. Where are you Seymour?
https://seymourhersh.substack.com
No results for Huawei
No results for 5G
Search across all of Substack instead?
One thing is for sure.
Catherine Austin Fitts proposal of using cash on Fridays will simply resolve everything, and when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING! This is how far truth can get us folks!!
The simple reality is that the people have no idea of who or what they are facing. This panel contains those who are equally ignorant of these facts which will ensure we will hear much abstract conjecture, but no actual SOLUTION or STRATEGY.
The IMA is made up of ‘talking heads’ who provide a running commentary of how the ENEMY is manoeuvring us, by degree, into a state of complete defencelessness and speculate on what their next move might be. It gives the impression that some form of action will flow from these revelations – but it never does.
If EVERYBODY understood just how corrupt the world has become, and how the ENEMY has infiltrated and taken control of all nodes of power and influence within the World’s Governing and Institutional structures, the SOLUTION would be clear, because there is only one STRATEGY capable of defeating this ENEMY:
https://icedrive.net/s/8A7z58gxD8RTkWfuSN8S513PFNT2
You oversimplify. The Enemy is not the technocrats; it is human nature. What we’re witnessing now with this Digital ID nonsense is merely the final phase of something begun the moment humans realized they could turn society into a hierarchy, with some better able to “rule” over the rest. It may have started innocently enough, with the “leaders” being those best able to protect the group by virtue of their physical prowess.
But when humans discovered and released the Genie in a Bottle – Science and its illegitimate offspring Technology – physical prowess gave way to intelligence as the determining factor promoting “leadership.” And having the smartest – the infamous “Best and Brightest” – call all the shots set in motion a train of events leading inescapably to digital enslavement.
Your word spaghetti makes no sense Howard.
So the enemy is not Technocrats who believe they came here via the Reptile to the Ape and then to the Neanderthal man, and today developed into the Digital man? They are the good guys.
But Humans are not good guys because as the most superior being here on earth, they took upon themselves management.
I agree. More and more. It is not necessarily the isms (commu, marx, fasc, capital, et al) that are the problem. They are simply ideas, ideals, beliefs.
It seems to me that it is (certain) humans who, under the banner of the isms, bribe, blackmail, kill, pillage, rob, rape, and generally cause unmitigated mayhem that are the problem.
Name them and shame them. I start with TB.Liar of Dodgy Dossier fame, also known as the Belgrade Bomber, the Baghdad Butcher, and the Non-voting Director in House of Rothschild.
“I’ve got a little list” — WS.Gilbert.
It goes much deeper than those you mention, although they are on the list.
< The Enemy is not the technocrats; it is human nature. >
Actually it is only a part of human nature: the part that Christians call Original Sin.
“Civilization is not this or that techno-marvel; civilization is what works to diminish the traces of original sin” — Baudelaire.
Might you explain what this Babel link is about before we download it?
< This panel contains those who are equally ignorant of these facts which will ensure we will hear much abstract conjecture, but no actual SOLUTION or STRATEGY. >
Agreed. So I looked up your Link for a “STRATEGY” and found a very detailed programme. But no call to arms, even though we know the Oligarchs will resort to bloodshed at the first sign of opposition. Fair enough: converting the sheeple to citizen mode and identifying our Oligarch targets should precede providing the sheeple with arms.
“Aux armes! Citoyens” — French Revolution Song.
“Since the preceding article, we have two new pieces of information to slot in to our evolving picture of the economic and financial future.
The first is that, well before 2050, what we think of as “modernity” will have come to an end.
The second is that governments are going to try to counter this process by driving public debt up to stratospheric levels. A reasonable interpretation might be that governments know we can’t borrow our way to prosperity, but have no options beyond ‘extend, pretend and distract’.”
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2024/09/17/289-project-2050-part-one/
< The first is that, well before 2050, what we think of as “modernity” will have come to an end. >
What we call modernity — free speech, free thought, personal freedom, freedom to investigate, reason and experiment — is a very tiny blip on the timescale of human evolution: say, from the birth of Democracy in Athens and the Investigations of Herodotus, circa 400 BC, to the Communist revolutions of the 20th century. For most of our existence, human societies have stagnated under various traditional superstitions.
“The mind-forged manacles of Man” — Wm.Blake
Lead by example as your sounding like such hypocrites.
You and your colleagues that fake scream ”digital id” have a blue tick on twitter in where you had to pay and also provide so much ID to have that verification approved.
There is a huge difference from identifying yourself with a passport, for example, to enter a country and buying a loaf of bread.
“If you have nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to fear” – The most dangerous phrase I think I’ve ever heard.
Have you got your tickets ?
Next week, the bird flu summit / reheasal starts.
Anyone remember event 201, the run-through for the recent reign of terror ?
Well, as I said on here a few months ago, moneybox was a hoax, bird flu is the next “thing”
The summit starts on 2nd Oct
It is surely a co-incidence that all birds must be registered with UK government by 1st October ! (Even pets)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/poultry-including-game-birds-registration-rules-and-forms
https://birdflusummit.com/about-us/
Poultry + game birds + your Papagayo. All birds that cost money, buy and sell, must be registered so BIS and their Bankers can see all trade on the Globe.
Here is a good link about this biblical issue: https://youtu.be/XQS4VDdAFrk
Digital also has sunny sides, like this Blog or this report on a many years long fraud PhD lady @ Harvard: It’s Over – Gino vs Harvard Fake Data Scandal
Africa is always the unwitting guinea pig for the West. In Kenya every citizen already has a biometric ID required to be shown in many transactions. Whilst cash is used in preference, some outlets will only accept Mpesa payments through your mobile phone that adds a transaction fee of course.
The new Government has now put forward the idea of a new digital ID to be inserted into the foot of every newborn under the guise of “convenience”.
Now, the National Hospital Insurance fund, into which every employee is deducted a percentage of their salary, with the employer paying the equivalent, for subsidized healthcare at certain hospitals or clinics for them and their families, is to be replaced with a new system, the old one having been looted, into which everyone must register and fund.
All Government services are done online via ecitizen, registered using your ID number plus a password, and paid for using the Mpesa mobile phone account adding an extra “processing” fee. There is no accountability and none knows who “owns” this platform. This too has “lost” billions of shillings.
There are only 2 mobile phone companies, Safaricom and another, Mpesa being Safaricom’s platform. Users have suddenly found they are being scammed by having small sums deducted daily from their cheaper data payments for “subscriptions” they’ve supposedly signed up for. Unless users are made aware, and unsubscribe digitally, the scam continues.
Fortunately, cheques are still acceptable and like Iain says in a restaurant/cafe I just insist that I don’t use Mpesa and if they want to be paid they’d better accept cash. They always do.
Once again OffG declares war on the Digital Devil and all its works. Like the Luddites breaking the weaving machines instead of fighting the Capitalists who cheated them of the profits from those machines. Before the weaving machines came along, stockings were so expensive that Queen Elizabeth I had to borrow a pair from one of her Lords (back in the days of Men in Tights).
OffG is a digital site raving against the Digital Demon; like a tea-totaller with confirmed alcohol addiction raving against the Demon Rum.
I had an ID card when I lived in Europe.
It was very useful to identify myself when dealing with officials.
I never had to use it to buy a loaf of bread.
Next time you visit Europe you should demonstrate your ID card to all the bakers where you buy bread, and see how happy they get to see you jumping around on two legs and your little tail go ups and downs.
Then why are you here?
“Behold, a voice in the wilderness”.
The march of folly has never been short of its few Cassandras.
All things can be used in two ways. Also IT.
A hammer to build and construct something up, or a hammer to beat some guy in the head and steal what he just build.
Agreed. It’s a poor revolutionary who blames the machinery for the greed of the bosses.
Stalin and Mao got rid of an incompetent hereditary ruling class who were in thrall to Anglo Zio capitalism, but they did not get rid of technological education. Quite the contrary: they built up Communist Russia and Communist China as great military-industrial powers. Their successors have built on those achievements.
Yeah. Know your enemy.
I guess both Russia and China had to do something after the Swedish King, Napoleon, Hitler, Truman and the British King’s Foreign office for Global Medical Opium Trading have made their eager marches toward Moscow and fighting land wars in China a long way from home.
Russia and China did well, didnt they? Patience and patience and patience.
The Luddites have come to be known as a bunch of technophobic vandals, stuck in a dying past and destroying machines in a vain attempt to stop progress. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.
The Luddites were not just anti-technology sticks in the mud, but people defending traditions, folkways, and a whole culture from the encroachment of industrialism. Their independent cottage industry was transformed into a child-labor-filled inhumane factory system.
Their problem was not with technology itself, but with technology that destroyed their way of life, technology that was for the benefit of the few, and to the detriment of the many.
It was never about just the machinery (they were using some of the most sophisticated machinery of the time)- but what that machinery stood for: the palpable, daily evidence of their having to succumb to forces beyond their control, beyond their power even to influence much, that were taking away their livelihoods and transforming their lives.’
I agree. But what the Luddites did not see — and hence did not struggle against — was that the herding of people into factories had been made possible by the herding of people off their traditional Church-protected Lands 200 years earlier, under the Tudor Reign of Terror which culminated in the formation of Britain’s first Capitalist monopoly: the British East India Company under Elizabeth Tudor.
Socialism showed the real way to fight Anglo Zionazi Capitalist oppression. But Socialism has been culturally genocided in the U$A and its European colonies.
The Socialist Manifesto, from Acts of the Apostles 4:32–35:
“And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
³³ And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. ³⁴ Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
³⁵ And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.”
One of The Millibands – fcked off to the USA to be chief Censor of Facebook/meta/Democratic Party/Tik Tok and the Gops…Whilst the other Miliband became the NetZero Minister – Completely in aGreement with Lord Keir Starmer Freezing and Starving us Old British Pensioners to Death This Winter…
Such people have been in control of both China and Soviet Russia and NAZI Germany
Now they are in Control of Us.
Do Not Comply. Do Not Get Jabbed. Protect Your Family From The Bullshit
and Get a Job.
All these people are “Working” for The Government
Have they started shooting at each other?
My wife is home now, and Yes it has been Raining a lot, and we have both told our cat off..but forgiven her. It does not normally rain like this in London
Glad we live on a hill. Still amazed our roof hasn’t leaked as it is over 100 years old…
and just look at the State of Florida
Heavily Pissed on Every Year
a ‘PRECISION’ strike means an entire block, in a heavily populated area, was erased
The Digital world won’t last long.
The Digital world is based on zeroes and ones.
‘Zero’ has no existence, except on paper or in a computer program.
‘One’ cannot exist by itself.
Nature, and we ARE nature, always have been, and always will be, for millions and billions (?) of years.
Nature, or Life, is based on, infused with, energised by, and animated through energy and Love.
Call it God if you like, but we can
be certain of two things:
It ain’t fucking digital.
It’s as real as it gets.
< Nature, and we ARE nature, always have been, and always will be, for millions and billions (?) of years. >
The latest respectable estimate is much longer than mere billions. Penrose estimates at least a google to the power of a google of years.
God is patient. He has infinity on His side. But He will judge us all at the End of Days.
The very real Afterlife does not work like that. There is NO ‘judgement’, by ‘god’.
What there is, is what’s termed a “Life Review”, shortly after we each return to the Spirit Dimension of this in fact multi-dimensional cosmos. In the Life Review (where we are literally shown our most recent lifetime, with all the things we said, did, etc etc), we ourselves assess how we did in that lifetime; ie, whether we achieved the things which we’d planned (before going to Earth for that lifetime) to achieve, whether we did well, or badly, etc etc. There is NO ‘judgement’. You ‘christians’ are so gullible; you’ve been well and truly duped. And the more ‘christians’ whom I see spewing out all the false dogmas & false doctrines which they’ve foolishly chosen to ‘believe’, makes me even more despising of them all.
It’s facts and truths which people should want, and not mere ‘beliefs’.
One day, all you ‘christians’ will have to face that you were hoodwinked, fooled, misled, duped, by the evil, corrupt ‘christian church’. No ‘christian’ is informed on the actual history of the origins of ‘christianity’ or of the actual history of the origins of the so-called ‘bible’ writings. More fool them. For if they were informed on the actual origins, they’d cease to be ‘christians’; they’d be embarrassed to have fallen for it in the first place.
More satanic dribble
No, what we properly-informed Spiritualists around the world state is NOT ‘satanic dribble’. It’s not ‘satanic’ anything. It happens to be the proven, factual truths. And a day will eventually arrive for every one of you very foolish Fundamentalists when you will have to face the (for you) unpalatable fact that the evil, corrupt ‘christian church’ well and truly duped you all. That you were all had. Fooled. Misled. Hoodwinked. That you’d all been so foolish as to fall for false dogmas & false doctrines. All of which are 100% false. And at the same time as discovering that, you will also all have to face that what we Spiritualists stated truly WERE the 100% factual truths of existence.
You are good entertainment I grant you that.
Satanic spiritualism.
Repent Christine and accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour.
Be baptized and filled with the Holy spirit.
Turn away from satan you are being lied too.
QUIT your ‘christian’ BS. You STILL are not aware that you ‘christians’ are being lied to, duped.
I am most certainly NOT going to ‘repent’ of being PROPERLY-informed, which is why I’m a Spiritualist. For what Spiritualism states truly has been 100% factually proven. Which is far more than you very foolish ‘christians’ around the world can claim of your BS mere ‘beliefs’.
No, Paul, we Spiritualists are NOT “following ‘Satan'”. And we Spiritualists are NOT being lied to! There are 30+ different categories of the multi-faceted evidences which provide proof of the veracity of what Spiritualism states. What Spiritualism states truly IS the actual true nature of existence!!!!! And on the eventual day on which you do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’, you will discover that to be the truth; and will then have to face that it was you ‘christians’ who were wrong; that you were the ones who were being duped, fooled, deceived.
‘Christianity’ is a control system hoax, to control the very gullible masses.
No, I am most definitely NOT going to ‘accept’ the merely claimed to exist ‘jesus’ as my ‘lord’ and ‘saviour’. You ‘christians’ really do take the biscuit when it comes to being foolish. Believing BS.
NO-ONE is my ‘lord’!! NO-ONE is my ‘saviour’!!
Life does not work like that. The very real Afterlife does not work like that. Face it, you ‘christians’ have all been well and truly duped.
The ‘salvation’ BS that you all fall for is nothing other that what I’ve just said: ie, BS. The actual Afterlife has nothing whatsoever to do with the fabricated ‘salvation’ BS. It’s one of the many false doctrines of the BS ‘christianity’ control system hoax.
No-one on Earth makes me ‘see red’ more than all you immensely gullible, foolish to the Nth degree, ‘christians’; and none more so than you Fundamentalist variety. None of you have actually researched the actual origins of so-called ‘christianity’ or the actual origins of the BS writings termed the ‘bible’. None of you possess any critical thinking skills. You have been well and truly duped.
And when you eventually return to the very real Spirit dimension [of this multi-dimensional cosmos], you will be made to understand that; you’ll then have to face that it truly was you ‘christians’ who’d been duped.
All ‘christians’ make me ‘see red’. Literally NONE of you possess any critical thinking skills. Which is truly deplorable.
A short PS to my reply to you of about 15 minutes ago.
Many, many people around the world have been in the clutches of ‘Fundamentalist Christianity’, but have (often after decades of having fallen for the ‘christian’ BS) then realised that it was nothing but a control system hoax designed to control the unthinking masses, and have managed to get out of that evil control system.
They had to face that they’d been well and truly duped, deceived. That they’d been gullible to have fallen for it in the first place.
I never fell for it. Our mum ‘forced’ my younger sister and I to accompany her to church every Sunday, from when I was about 7 years old. My sister fell for it, but I didn’t. I refused to kneel down, refused to sing the ‘hymns’, I used to give the vicar black looks when he stood in the pulpit giving his ‘sermon’, etc. Because I knew, instinctively, at that tender age, that ‘christianity’ was nothing but BS.
And my scholarly researches into it, in later life, proved my intuitions when a little kid.
When aged 12, I put my foot down, told my mum that I’d not be accompanying her and my sister to church ever again. And she had to accept that.
I’m not Christian. I was born into an American Jewish family but I don’t practice Judaism any more. I think I’m a deist, in that I see the great mysteries in the universe require a “first cause” that can exist beyond our known physical laws, which must be termed “God” as well as anything.
So as such I’m always open to ideas about the numinous, and I’m very intrigued by your claims of “proof”.
Could you tell more? Proof of what? Spiritualism? The non-reality of Christian faith?
And how was the proof acquired?
I would love to be able to consider and examine it for myself.
Up until 1994 (I’m 65), I was a materialist, who merely assumed that ‘death’ was the end of existence. However, in that year, in my then local library in London I came across (‘by chance’… nothing major happens by mere chance, in anyone’s life) a book re. reincarnation. I was intrigued by it, so borrowed it from the library and read it (I’ve been a voracious reader of [99.9% non-fiction] books since the tender age of 9). And came across evidences which indicated that ‘death’ is NOT the end of our existence: that we all survive that very illusory event, in [what’s termed] our (eternal, immortal) spirit body form. Our spirit body being what literally animates our physical body ‘coat’ throughout each of our eternal soul’s many, many lifetimes. The spirit body has been seen by many, many people around the world who are lucky enough to possess the spiritual gift of clairvoyant vision. When in the presence of someone who is about to do what’s wrongly termed ‘die’, they see, with their clairvoyant sight, the person’s spirit body (ie, the exact-same person as that person was, when on Earth in their physical body; for the spirit body IS our immortal consciousness!) literally emerge from the physical body at the moment of ‘death’, and the person then returns, now in their spirit body form, to the very real Spirit dimension (of this in fact multi-dimensional cosmos). There are some doctors and nurses around the world who also possess clairvoyant sight, and some of them have gone on record to testify to their experiences: that they do indeed see the person’s spirit body literally emerge from the physical body at the time of ‘death’. They thus know that ‘death’ is not the end of our personal existence.
So… when I first came across this data, in 1994, I decided to initiate a programme of in-depth, scholarly research into the subject. Realising that it was the greatest, biggest truth.
I carried out a very great deal of scholarly research into this, which included the reading of 1000+ high-quality, scholarly books on the topic.
There are 30+ different categories of the multi-faceted evidences which PROVE that we do all survive (in our spirit body form) the death of our physical body ‘coat’.
There are literally countless millions of properly-informed people around the world who are fully genned-up on this ultimate, biggest truth of existence: that ‘death’ is not what it merely seems to be. And those countless millions include many properly-informed scientists, doctors, nurses, ‘psychiatrists’, lawyers, etc etc., who have themselves discovered the truth of survival of physical body ‘death’.
Moreover, there are many tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands, if you take into account that there will be books on this vital subject published in many other languages too!) of high-quality, scholarly books published on this vital topic, and a large percentage of them have been written BY the properly-informed scientists, doctors, nurses, ‘psychiatrists’, lawyers, etc etc, who themselves became informed on the veritable wealth of multi-faceted evidences which absolutely prove that we truly do all survive (in our spirit body form) the death of our physical body.
I will, a bit later today, provide you with a representative booklist on this vital truth of existence. I’ve provided it several times before, here on Off-G, over the past 2-3 years.
It usually (but not always) goes into ‘pending’ before eventually being published on the forum.
If people carry out research into this subject, they do indeed discover that the manifold multi-faceted evidences provide incontrovertible proof that we do all survive physical body death. We return to the very real Spirit World/Spirit Dimension (of the multi-dimensional cosmos), which is our actual place of origin. We return there, over and over and over again, after each of our eternal soul’s many, many lifetimes (often numbering in the thousands…).
Whoever thumbed-down my post above is demonstrating their lack of knowledge, their closed-mindedness, their ignorance… for literally everything in my post above is 100% factual truth.
And, for anyone who “doesn’t believe” that, I can assure you that on the eventual days on which you do what is so very wrongly termed ‘die’, you will discover, in the most undeniable manner possible, that everything which I’ve stated on this vital subject IS the very real truth.
Anyone who is ‘offended’ by the 100% factual truths of existence has a problem…
Hello Hannah,
Re. representative BOOKLIST re. the multi-faceted evidences which prove that we do all survive [in our immortal spirit body form] the death of our physical body ‘coat’.
I said, in my lengthy post to you earlier today, that I’d provide you with a representative booklist re. the 100% factual truth of everyone (including animals, birds, etc; they too survive the death of their physical body in their spirit body form)’s survival of physical body death.
So here it is (N.B., there are literally many tens [and probably hundreds] of thousands of high-quality, scholarly books published on this greatest truth of existence).
“Your Eternal Self: Science discovers the Afterlife”, by R Craig Hogan.
“Evidence beyond a reasonable doubt [that] you will never die”, by R Craig Hogan.
“Reasons for what happens to you in your life & your Afterlife (from speakers in the Afterlife)”, by R Craig Hogan.
“The Afterlife Experiments: breakthrough scientific evidence of life after death”, by Professor Gary E Schwartz [Professor of Medicine, Neurology, Psychiatry, Psychology & Surgery, at University of Arizona, USA).
“Beyond Matter: the moving experiences of a scientist with the spiritual world and his Afterlife research”, by Dr Oliver Lazar [Dr Lazar is a German: a medical doctor and a Professor of Computer Science].
“Glimpses of Eternity”, by Dr Raymond Moody [American psychiatrist].
“The self does not die”, by Titus Rivas, Annie Dirven, & Rudolf H Smit.
“Reincarnation as a scientific concept: scholarly evidence for past lives”, by Dr K S Rawal & Titus Rivas.
“Faces of the living dead: the amazing psychic art of Frank Leah”, by Paul Miller.
“The art of dying: a journey to elsewhere”, by Dr Peter Fenwick [British psychiatrist].
“Consciousness beyond life”, by Dr Pim van Lommel [Dutch cardiologist].
“Irreducible Mind”, co-authored by Dr Bruce Greyson [American psychiatrist].
“Beyond physicalism: toward reconciliation of science and spirituality”, edited by Edward Kelly & others.
“Death is of vital importance: on life, death, and the Afterlife”, by Dr Elisabeth Kubler-Ross [a Swiss-American psychiatrist].
“The secret of the soul”, by William Buhlman.
“Evidence of the Afterlife”, by Dr Jeffrey Long [American oncologist].
“A lawyer presents the evidence for the Afterlife”, by Victor Zammit & [his wife] Wendy Zammit [Victor, a Maltese-Australian, was a [now-retired] top-level lawyer in Sydney, NSW, Australia].
“Forever ours: a coroner’s tales of life, death, and immortality”, by Dr Janis Amatuzio [American coroner].
“When tomorrow speaks to me”, by Bridget Benson [Irish nurse, who is also clairvoyant/clairaudient].
“The Big Book of Near-Death Experiences”, by P M H Atwater.
“Memories of Heaven: children’s astounding recollections of the time before they came to Earth”, by Dr Wayne W Dyer & Dee Garnes.
“Same soul, many bodies”, by Dr Brian Weiss [American psychiatrist].
“Science and the Afterlife: evidence for the immortality of consciousness”, by Chris Carter.
“Science and the Near-Death Experience: how consciousness survives death”, by Chris Carter.
“The airmen who would not die”, by John G Fuller.
“The supreme adventure”, by Robert Crookall.
“The children that time forgot”, by Peter & Mary Harrison [this is the book which caused me to initiate a programme of scholarly research into the survival of ‘death’ evidences].
“Many Mansions”, by Air Chief Marshal Lord Hugh Dowding [RAF ‘bigwig’ in the Battle of Britain, 1940].
“Return from tomorrow”, by Dr George Ritchie [American psychiatrist].
“Life between life”, by Joel Whitton & Joe Fisher.
“You have been here before”, by Dr Edith Fiore [American psychologist].
“Embracing eternity”, by Tony Stockwell.
“We don’t die”, by Joel Martin & Patricia Romanowski.
“Children’s past lives”, by Carol Bowman.
“Return from Heaven”, by Carol Bowman.
“The Scalpel and the Soul”, by A J Hamilton MD.
“The Eagle and the Rose”, by Rosemary Altea.
“Living Images”, by Coral Polge.
“The light between us”, by Laura Lynne Jackson.
“Afterlife encounters”, by Dianne Arcangel.
“50 years a medium”, by Estelle Roberts.
“The Great Reality”, by John H Remmers.
“Spirit untethered: a psychotherapist’s journey from terminal cancer to seeing the dead”, by Suzanne Grace Maiden.
“Understanding life after death: an exploration of what awaits you, me, and everyone else we’ve ever known”, by Cyrus Kirkpatrick.
“Soul Proof: compelling evidence that life continues after physical death”, by Dr Mark Pitstick.
“Reaching through the veil to heal [death, grief, and communicating with loved ones in Spirit]”, by Linda Drake.
“From one world to another”, by Rita Rogers.
And, as I said at the top of this representative booklist, there are also literally tens of thousands [and probably hundreds of thousands] more books on this greatest of all truths.
Good on you, Christine. You gave up the “Christian BS” at age 12. I was a little slower: age 14. But 75 years later, I am not so sure about these really big things as when I was a kid.
ps I admire Sir Arthur Conan Doyle not only for creating Sherlock Holmes but for his historical insight into the evil U$ brand of Backwoods Christianity; and for his honest attempt to found Spiritualism on a scientific basis of observation and verification.
If you read my post properly, you’d have understood that I never accepted it in the first place… I REJECTED it at the age of 7 or 8. I stated in my post that at age 12 I put my foot down and told our mum that I’d not be accompanying her and my sister to church any more…
There may not be an actual judgment; but there is karma.
Of course there is karma (we are each, every one of us, an eternal soul who lives many, many lifetimes. And yes, karma is amassed, based on what we do in each of our many (often thousands of) lifetimes.
But that is NOT ‘judgement’. All ‘christians’ have been well and truly duped. And when they each return to the very real Spirit world/Spirit dimension, they’ll be made to understand that, and will have to accept it.
Karma is a bitch. She lets you do what you like, then lands you with the consequences.
Look what she did to Germany for her sin in following Hitler: 4 Million dead Germans and the country under permanent military occupation by Anglo Zio Capitalism.
Look what she’s doing to modern Israel for her sin in following Nutty Yahoo: self destruction.
As ye give so shall ye receive is not really a time concept, but making time for getting sets up an experience of being ‘got’
< It’s facts and truths which people should want, and not mere ‘beliefs’. >
Agreed.
“Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set Ye free” — New Testament.
QUIT your BS quotes from the so-called ‘bible’. It’s Spiritualism which states the proven facts/truths re. existence and re. the very real Afterlife, and NOT the BS of ‘christianity’.
NO truly intelligent person ever falls for the BS of ‘christianity’. It’s a control system hoax, and when you eventually return to the very real Spirit world, you will have to face that.
QUIT the ‘christian’ BS. For we intelligent people around the world do not fall for it. QUIT the BS!!!!!
Sorry Christine. As a scientist I admire Scientific Spiritualism because of its Empirical methodology, but the more I see of life the more I feel the need for moral imperatives higher than science, because science provides only knowledge and tools — not morality.
Religion is a myth, a story if you like, about how to behave. Two things in Christian story appeal to me especially:
1, Christianity’s God who took on the sufferings of his own Creatures, lived as a good man and died an unjust and untimely death under the most hideous form of slow torture ever devised by the misplaced ingenuity of mankind. A death so cruel and unjust that it forced the Man-Who-Was-God to cry out in agony: “Adonai, Lamah Sabachthani?”.
2, Christianity’s Communism: “From each according to his means to each according to his needs. It is easier to thread a cable through the eye of a needle than to push a rich man through the gates of The Kingdom. Let us work to build The Kingdom on Earth as it is in Heaven. Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall see God”.
I assume you don’t mean to insult existence itself with this business of a God who will judge everyone – but that unfortunately is exactly what you are doing. The very idea of an entity which in its omnipotence sets up nearly impossible barriers to existence (such as the genocide of children) and then presumes to “judge” victim and perpetrator alike is an abomination.
“Hey you: how well did you get blown to bits?” “Hey you: how well did you blow that kid to bits?” “Did you do me proud, you two?”
Sorry, but that just doesn’t cut it for me.
I thank you and Christine for so clearly stating the Problem-of-Evil argument against the idea of an omnipotent and benificent God. You will of course appreciate that argument will not alter my beliefs nor your own, because all of us are discussing matters far beyond the understanding of mere humans.
Caritas, NickM.
You have foolishly allowed yourself to be indoctrinated into the BS false dogmas and false doctrines of the control system hoax that is ‘christianity’.
There is NO ‘judgement’, after we all return to the very real Spirit Dimension of this multi-dimensional cosmos. We all undergo what’s termed a ‘Life Review’, where we ourselves merely assess how we did, in the lifetime we’ve, at that point, just come out of. We assess as to whether we achieved the goals etc that we’d planned (before coming to Earth) to achieve. We assess as to whether we were good to people, or whether we abused them (in whatever way), we assess that lifetime by, for eg, saying “Well, I could have done that a bit better, I should have done that/should not have done that…”, etc. That is what happens after we each return to the very real Spirit realms. I repeat, there is NO ‘judgement’. You ‘christians’ really have been ‘had’. You’ve all been well and truly duped. Deceived. Fooled. Hoodwinked.
According to the bible we human beings have been here on earth 6000-7000 years.
When I read history, visit museums, and travel, these 6-7 000 years makes logical sense to me.
Seen in a microscope and millions of years makes no sense.
The calculations in the Old Testament were probably made in the Graeco-Persian era, around 600BC, when few people in West Eurasia could imagine the actual size and age of the Universe.
The Hindu sacred books had a better grasp of the immensity and antiquity of Divine power.
But it was modern Science, in the 18th-20th century, which actually began to measure the real scale of Existence — and blew our minds!
“We are made from the dust of ancient stars” — A 20th Century physicist.
Just to understand each other. We speak of two ancient histories, the history of man and the history of our universe.
I take the 6-7000 years history of the creation of man in the bible to make some logical factual sense.
In the history of the earth, the planets and sundry universe there might be many more years…………and fiat dollares to invest and add.
Theories, fantasies, disillusions, illusions., .
An omnipotent “God” created everything, so also the digital realm. Even the WEF, CCP and Islam came from “IT”, got freedom of choice but than corrupted lofty origins for selfish group greed.
It is up to us individuals to want to return to the track that is good for All. When that going looks tough, the volunteers start moving easier – Assistance.
Someone challenged God remember? What was his name? Lucy, Saturn, Ben Astor, Goldstein, Silverstein, something close?
A True Binary
You either call out manufactured pseudo-events like the Christchurch “shooting” or you don’t!