Let’s talk about… “WWIII” trending again, as war in ME expands
Editor
The year-old Israeli-Hamas war is, we are told, spreading across the region. Following Israel’s bizarre “pager attack” last month the IDF have “shifted focus” to Lebanon.
Two days ago an Israeli strike on Beirut is said to have levelled six buildings and “wiped out” the entirety of Hezbollah’s leadership.
Yesterday, Iran responded by firing “hypersonic” missiles at Tel Aviv that either breached the Iron Dome missile defense system or did NOT breach it depending on who you ask.
Today, Israeli troops are reportedly crossing into Lebanon to fight on the ground. Iran is expected to continue to respond.
Reports claim over a million Lebanese – around one fifth of the entire population – have fled their homes due to Israeli bombing. A very large number indeed.
Around 100,000 of those people have crossed the border into Syria, itself victim of an Israeli bombing raid just yesterday, and a US drone strike allegedly targeting “ISIS terrorists” the day before.
Speaking of ISIS, just hours ago this ludicrously fake state-controlled entity allegedly launched an ambush attack in Iraq, reportedly killing four Iraqi soldiers.
The fake “terrorist threat” narrative which so conveniently went dormant during the fake “pandemic”, seems to be reactivating.
Last month, inveterate spinner of propaganda nonsense Max Boot wrote in the WaPo that “Terrorism warning lights are blinking red again.”
WWIII is trending on Twitter. Again.
Politically, the UN have responded by condemning Israel’s actions, while in response to that condemnation Israel has banned UN General Secretary Guterres from entering the country.
Which may well turn this globalist stooge into a hero for a certain section of memory-challenged individuals.
Joe Biden stirred from hibernation long enough to read an autocue pledge of “ironclad support” to Israel, and claim he directed the US military to help shoot down Iranian missiles.
Meanwhile Donald Trump is accusing Biden (and Harris) of pushing us to the brink of global war.
It’s all getting very fraught.
But to what end? What are the agendas? What’s the endgame?
Let’s talk about it.
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This article was linked below. Here are some quotes
It makes some good point and asks some of the right questions. What happened at those airbases? Were they hit? Damaged? Knocked out? Totally avoided?
No footage to answer that yet. We have clear footage of alleged missile damage of small houses, pieces of ground and cars. Nothing to show what if anything happened to any strategic targets yet.
But the most important bit for me is the penultimate paragraph where this writer, who is no fool and asks some good questions, shows up just how far from sanity and reality things have gone. Like, we are all drinking so much Koolaid it’s rotting our ability to remember what the real world used to look like.
This bit is what I mean
What?
Let’s read it again because it’s so fucking (excuse me) crazy I can’t believe it
So, does anyone remember the old days when war meant you had to try to knock out your enemy’s “high value assets” not bend over backwards to make sure they came to no harm?
Back in 1939-45 did the Germans and British phone each other before every air raid to make sure nothing really valuable got broken by accident?
Sorry, but what’s the bloody point of an air raid if you warn your “enemy” beforehand so he can make sure all his fucking planes are in the Ir and his valuable china is packed away?
Is it me? Am I nuts? How come in five years in the army and studying combat strategy I never heard tjis was how you’re supposed to do it?
What’s really messed up for me is this author, who seems clued in, doesn’t seem to realize what he’s saying or how bloody ridiculous it is.
Oh yeah no, it’s standard procedure to do your best not to inflict any actual damage on your enemy when you bomb them.
Like, how can he not see how crazy that is?
Same time it fits everything I have been seeing after watching this totally mental “war” in Ukraine.
I mean it’s not war. It doesn’t follow any of the rules of war, nothing anyone does makes any sense. It’s nuts. It just LOOKS FAKE.
And people are just accepting it. This is how it is now mate. We have wars that go on forever where both sides make sure they do as little damage as possible. But it’s not fake or anything. It’s just how reality is now. So, just be like this bloke and accept it. New Normal war innit
That seems quite insane to me. How long has this been “standard practice”?
You see, only the plebs are supposed to die in these wars, God forbid the oligarchs’ most valuable toys get scratched for a fake staged war that’s supposed to bring us to eternal peace.
Even the best “toys” wear out. This includes tanks and aircraft. Besides which, conventional warfare is fast becoming passe because of missile technology. Basically, today no one can “win” a war using yesterday’s war toys. Yet everyone keeps rolling them out: this is the inevitable outcome of war for profit.
Yet another civilian spouting off about war from a position of total ignorance. Conventional warfare meaning what? What are the objectives of this war?
Are you suggesting you can take enemy territory using missiles? If not then what are the objectives? How is the war going to be prosecuted using just missiles? When will victory be achieved? What is the exit strategy?
You just don’t have a clue do you but you spout off anyway like a broken bloody tap
Every type of armament the “free world” provided Ukraine out of the goodness of heart was annihilated. The least Israel can do for its BFF US is to delay the inevitable exposure of the F35s as the total turkeys they are.
Not relevant to what I posted. Are nations at war now routinely warning each other before they attack to make sure nothing important gets damaged?
Do you, or anyone, realize how nuts that is in terms of actual warfare?
It’s like the whole world has gone round the twist!
There has been a very good reason in West Asia (the Middle East) for this weird turn of war making: not everyone wishes to escalate. Certainly Iran doesn’t. Israel seems determined to though. There’s no indication Israel ever warned what it was going to do – other than boasting that it was going to attack (which everyone already knew anyway).
Also, there are rules of war – a total absurdity to make war seem less monstrous. Only military targets are “allowed” to be targeted – another rule Israel routinely ignores.
I recall the MSM telling us right at the start that this war would last for years, I could not understand that as fully expected Russia to wipe Ukraine out inside a month. We do have many reasons for why Russia is going slow and they all sound very reasonable and too convenient. As mentioned elsewhere herewhen you get to a certain level in the pyramid there is only one side and that will be the banketers. Anthony Sutton has a few well referenced books on this subject.
Has that happened in : Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc ?
What part of warning strike do you not understand?
This was a show of force to prove they’ve got precision strike capabilities.
They saturated the Israeli airspace with slower (cheaper) rockets and drones and then used precision guided missiles to target key infrastructure.
Iran does not want an outright conflict for it’s own well-being. Damage to it’s oil refineries will be catastrophic to the economy but when pushed to the brink, they will block the Strait Of Hormuz and also target Saudi oil infrastructure bringing the world economy to a grinding halt. Not to mention, American assets in the middle east will not be off the card either.
Israel knows this, so do the Allies
What key infrastructure?
Such as this !
Do you just not know what evidence is or are you hoping people reading this are dumb enough to think you’re showing them evidence?
Unless there’s photos or video or satellite imagery showing Israel’s f35s and airfields ALL DISABLED there’s no evidence for this being true.
“Eywitnesses”, fuzzy pictures of a couple of buildings with holes in them, other pictures of random huts being smashed up ARE NOT EVIDENCE.
A bloody drawing isn’t evidence!
Scott “hello little girl here’s my penis” Ritter saying it IS NOT EVIDENCE.
Those night time pictures of unidentified items, some of which at least are flares and all of which look too slow moving to be “hypersonic rockets” are not evidence OF DAMAGE.
Show me photos or videos of wrecked f-35s, photos or videos or satellite of DESTROYED airfields, photos or videos of other strategic targets provablY DESTROYED.
If you just post the same old crap you posted before – none of which is the level of evidence we need, and all of which I’ve already told you is not good enough I’m not going to waste time replying.
Show me something real or shut up.
My replies to your assertions are in the hands of Sam !
Mate, I studied combat strategy for 3 years. I’ve been in real life combat situations both on the ground and inside the command structure.
You are talking bollocks. Everyone who ever read a basic fucking training manual could tell you that.
No one in a REAL WAR hits an unprepared enemy to do as little damage as possible. All you’re doing is leaving them with intact means to hit you back as hard as they want. And in a real war that’s just what they’ll do. If you don’t tKe out their infrastructure they’ll take out yours.
What you’re describing would only make sense if both sides had agreed this was just token, like what Trump says happened with Iran during his time in the WH.
But that’s exactly my point. What he’s describing isn’t war. It’s a game of pretend for the cameras. It’s Trump and the Iranians saying let’s make a few bangs we can get shown on the TV news but let’s agree not to mess each other up.
That’s not war mate. What is wrong with your head on this?
” …No one in a Real War..”
Sword and sandals interventions against the locals would hardly count as real wars.
The last time the UK fought a war facing combined arms attacks, artillery plus aircraft and infantry was in the Korean war.
Hence why the NATO trained Ukrainian forces have suffered such tremendous losses.
Now, as I understand it Iran has not declared war on Israel or the US if they have please provide proof !
I’ve been reading this whole thing just now and I don’t get it. It’s like sometimes you and the others on your side are saying “this isn’t a full on war and next you’re talking about thousands of troops dying and it’s an existential struggle.
Well which is it?I don’t see how it can be both.
How is it that at one and the same time it’s a blood bath to equal the Somme but at the same time there’s a gentleman’s agreement for Putin and Zelenski to not attack each other’s infrastructure or do anything to impact their economies or slow down their ability to wage war?
I just saw today on Riley Waggaman’s channel that –
Moscow is still paying Kiev to transit Russian gas to Europe via a gas metering station in Russia’s Kursk Oblast that has been occupied by the Ukrainian military since August 6. War is a funny business.[source: TASS.ru]
That’s weird right? Why is Russia paying Ukraine and why is Ukraine transiting Russian gas while apparently engaged in terrifying fight to the death that might go nuclear any day?
I mean huh is what I was thinking reading it all.
Massive fighting where? is another question, thousands or millions dead, total chaos allegedly, Ukraine running out of young men (allegedly) but the gas keeps placidly running?
Some people say Russia is also losing thousands and thousands of men. Are they or not?
They have allegedly a Ukraine army on their soil, they have NATO apparently threatening them, they might be on the brink of surrender some people say – but they don’t even turn off the gas supply to the very nations threatening them?
Surrender but don’t turn off the gas?
They continue to pay the country that’s invading them and that country continues to let Russian gas run through its territory, while in another part of the forest thousands and thousand of men die in huge bloody battles that no one sees, or films or even says where they’re happening.
No eyewitnesses, no grieving families, no pictures of the aftermath of these huge battles?
I mean for that many people to have died the battles must be massive bloodbaths. Like American Civil War battles or WW1 battles. The casualty numbers have to mean that.
So, where are the battles happening? Huge, epic battles killing thousands every day,
where?
And meanwhile the gas keeps on flowing and everything looks normal
i totally get why more and more people think this looks fake. I really do. The whole thing is just weird.
Let’s take it a few points at a time. With the destructive force of nuclear weapons any full scale war between the US/ U.K./ NATO against the Russian Federation and it is allies would result in the complete and utter destruction of mankind as anyone who has bothered to study the nuclear deterrents over the decades would realise.
In terms of the military conflict in the Ukraine, the conventional weapons , such as 3000 kg glided bombs, have incredibly destructive force to kill hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers in one explosion. Therefore, it should be no surprise that 100,000s of Ukrainian soldiers, as numerous articles plus ever increasing grave yards will testify, have been KIA or wounded.
The existential crisis for the Russian Federation, only requires an in depth reading of history, to grasp that the West has been attempting to dismember it for almost a millennium.
I suggest you broaden your sources of information if you believe there is a “ ..gentleman’s agreement..”. Currently, the Ukraine has less than 50% of its power plants working with rolling 12-16 hour blackouts in many cities.
I also suggest you look at another Moscow based foreign journalist, John Helmer, who has resided in Russia since 1989 and published many in depth, well researched articles and books to have a more balanced view of Russia . His cite is Dance With Bears at johnhelmer.net.
“ ..millions dead..” Can you cite a source for this number please.
“No eyewitnesses, No grieving families..” Again, I suggest your broaden your sources since there is ample of this from independent journalists on the ground in the Donbas.
The most recent battles occurred in Ugledar and Toretsk both of which were captured recently. Again, I suggest you widen your sources eg Telegram or Southfront.press, Simplicus etc .
Now, one final point, can you show me or provide proof that the Russian Federation has declared war because at the moment it’s a Special Military Operation. Let’s pray it remains a SMO for all our sakes !
You’re wasting your time love. He’s got nothing, but he can fart out smoke and bullshit for longer than you’ve got patience to read it. His trademark is fuck tons of empty words and links he pretends answer your questions but don’t.
Notice he avoided your quote from Waggaman (he can’t answer it so he pretends you didn’t say it), and he tells you to go and find all these fantastic sources but doesn’t link to any, because there aren’t any.
To cut to the chase there aren’t any images or video records of any large scale battles, and you’re right the only way the supposed casualties can make sense is if there had been months of largescale battles. Even then the numbers are fucking insane.
You’re right also that they keep changing the story, when they want to explain why Putin hasn’t even turned off the bloody gas they say it’s a “limited” war and they don’t want to escalate, and when they want to talk up how it’s a great big deal they say there are hundreds of thousands dead and Ukraine is about to collapse or Russia is about to surrender blah blah. That’s how you know it ‘s not real because it’s not even consistent.
The fact Ukraine has supposedly invaded Russia using NATO weapons and Putin just sits there and lets it happen and doesn’t even turn the gas off tells you it’s bullshit.
Trump let the cat out the bag in his interview about Iran. He basically said they just lob a few shells around to make it look good and agree with each other beforehand where they’re going to put them. It’s playacting so there’s some video of big booms for the nightly news. Just bollocks.
It seems you are now joining a long list of posters who become tag team members and resort to ad hominem. As to the Pipe line for gas being supplied to Hungary, that has been addresed in previous threads, Kursk invasion, which the poster can research for themselves since my post would have been a very long
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In regards evidence of the Iranian attacks on Israeli military airfields even the owners of this site admitted they weren’t fake.
Again, you were provided with overwhelming evidence by numerous sources of the truly horrific conflict in the Ukraine. However, you appear to have the flat Earthers attitude to concrete factual proof.
You have forgotten that Trump, whilst President, assasinated Solemani and supported the Zionists throughout his presidency.
If you want to address my primary post, please do !
No, it’s business as usual in a different kind of war!
1) The installations were of strategic importance
2) Warnings were given
3) The warnings were ignored
4) The installations were severely damaged
Stitch that, Henry!
https://web.archive.org/web/20201124015316/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/06/02/trump-can-win-argument-huawei
[Wartime President] Trump can win his argument over Huawei
Christopher Williams
Deputy Business Editor
The Telegraph (UK)
2 June 2019
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/huawei-to-be-removed-from-uk-5g-networks-by-2027
Press release
Huawei to be removed from UK 5G networks by 2027
Decision follows a technical review by the National Cyber Security Centre in response to US sanctions
From: Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, National Cyber Security Centre and The Rt Hon Oliver Dowden CBE MP
Published: 14 July 2020
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Coronavirus outbreak: Conspiracy theorists burn 5G towers, claiming link to COVID-19
Global News
May 14, 2020
Some conspiracy theorists are falsely linking 5G, the fifth generation of wireless mobile technology, to COVID-19 outbreaks. Jeff Semple looks at what started this hoax, how it spread like wildfire on social media and how it ignited attacks on cellphone towers.
Does the scenario you depict with these links help explain if/why it is normal practice to warn your enemy before a strike so they can remove ‘expensive assets’, ie. Jet fighters, from harm’s way? If not, then we’re talking past each other aren’t we. A2
To simply prove a point that similar sites will be hit next time without prior warning.
I take your point, and Lost in a Dark Wood’s. A ‘shot across the bow’ is a military tactic many will be familiar with in legit warfare. However, we must also acknowledge that recognising this does not introduce any fresh evidence into a discussion calling for evidence of said legit warfare. It is speculation. A2
I presume the “enemies” you’re referring to are the respective regimes of Iran and Israel. If so, I don’t consider that to be a valid representation of the relationship. Moreover, the higher-level conflicts are between competing interests rather than “enemies”. For instance, Kissinger and Pompeo (or Trump and Hillary) can get on amiably at social functions. However, they can still have competing interests. The pursuit of those interests can involve bombing the crap out of some nation or people; and it can involve setting one nation against another.
With regard to the recent warnings, my guess is that Iran felt it had to make some show of striking back, but they know if they do any real damage there’ll be an escalation in which they’ll get obliterated. So they enter into an agreement similar to that which was given to Trump.
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Trump makes major revelation over Iran’s revenge
Fox Business
Feb 5, 2024
Former President Trump shares that Iran warned him ahead of the retaliatory strike against U.S. forces over Soleimani’s death during an interview on ‘Sunday Morning Futures’ with Maria Bartiromo.
It’s “agreements” all the way down now. Ukraine and Russia agree not to turn off pipelines or mess with their economies or bomb anything really important like roads or bridges.
It’s fucking nuts. They’re not at war. They’re just agreeing they’ll loose off a bit of artillery on unimportant targets, like civilians who get in the way or old buildings then can give their mates contracts to rebuild. . They’re not trying to win, neither side is. They’re play acting. Going through the motions so joe public thinks there’s a real war. It’s obvious now. No denying it. And civilians are being conned by bullshit artists into believing this is how wars are fought now.
Bullshit. Total fucking bullshit.
The Ukraine war was planned by Kissinger & co as a Belt & Road operation. Putin funded Kolomoisky who in turn funded Azov and Zelensky. Zelensky was supposed to flee Kyiv immediately following the invasion. It therefore required only half-arsed military planning and was never supposed to be a real war.
However, the US oligarchy (Christian Zionists and Atlanticists) had other ideas; Zelensky was given a better offer; a Brzezinski style resistance was implemented; and this was supported by Javelin missiles and real-time, satellite intelligence. As a consequence, Putin found himself in a mess.
If the US oligarchy had supplied sufficient weapons, Ukraine could have finished the job by now. For instance they would be able to close the Sea of Azov to all shipping; thereby shutting down one of Russia’s major transport routes. However, the US seems to want to keep the conflict continuing for a while. This is probably because they have an agenda to reshape the geopolitics of the Black and Caspian Sea regions. See:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org
Neither Putin nor Zelensky have that much control over events. Putin is finished as soon as he’s forced to withdraw from Ukraine. And Zelensky is limited by the supply of weapons.
The US/ U.K./ NATO do not have the necessary industrial manufacturing base to supply Ukraine before or even now with the weapons to do close down the Sea of Azov. Witness the barrage of drones, ATACMS, Scalp cruise missiles which could only be used in limited sorties.
Agreed, the US/ U.K. wish to fight until the last Ukrainian in order to try to weaken the Russian Federation but it has backfired dramatically against them by almost any measure eg economically , militarily, diplomatically.
Putin is not, despite a popular misconception, a one man band. There is a very powerful strata that support him called the
If you read Sergei Lavorov’s, Putin’s Foreign Secretary, recent statements you will note that the Russian Federation has no intention of withdrawing.
After all the Ukrainian/ NATO military are losing one strategic town after another in the Donbas, today they captured the fortified strategic town of Toretsk.
Once Pokrovsk falls only the Kramatorsk conglomerate is left and after that its game over in the Donbas.
https://kingworldnews.com/stagflation-economy-us-manufacturing-collapse-remains-as-stagflation-rules-the-day/
The US oligarchy is quietly pushing ahead with its plans for the region. Although there seems to be very few outlets reporting on it, this is the reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoAF_57th_Air_Base
The Romanian Air Force 57th Air Base “Captain Aviator Constantin Cantacuzino” (Romanian: Baza 57 Aeriană “Căpitan Aviator Constantin Cantacuzino”), also known as Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base, is an air base located near Constanța, at the Mihail Kogălniceanu International Airport. It is home to the 572nd Helicopter Squadron.[1] The air base also has a significant US Military presence, being the location of the US Army Garrison Black Sea and housing over 4,500 American troops.[2][3] The current base commander is Comandor Nicolae Crețu.[4]
In 2024, construction began on a project aimed at modernizing and expanding the base. Under the same project, it is planned to build a military city similar to Ramstein Air Base, where more than 10,000 NATO servicemen will live together with their families.[5][6]
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https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/issue-brief/caspian-contributions-to-energy-security-in-europe
Issue Brief
July 3, 2024
Caspian contributions to energy security in Europe
By John M. Roberts and Julian Bowden
This issue brief examines the potential for new fossil fuel developments in the Caspian region to meet Europe’s energy needs. With increased regional interconnectivity, large fossil fuel resources, political support for fossil fuel development, and growth in domestic renewable energy generation, Caspian producers—namely Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan—have the potential to meet this need on the timeline required. To do so, they must act on stated plans to increase natural gas production and tap domestic renewable energy sources.
This brief also examines the regional factors in Southeast Europe, including gas flows, infrastructure changes, and market demand, which would affect Caspian fossil fuel supplies’ availability in Europe. Georgia, Turkey, Italy, and Southeast and Central Europe stand to directly benefit from Caspian gas via the Southern Gas Corridor. They can also serve as conduits of these supplies further north and west.
However, economic and geopolitical factors could hinder the rapid production and export of additional supplies from the Caspian region. Raising finance for oil and gas projects has become difficult as international financial institutions and the European Commission seek to reduce fossil fuel investment. Moreover, while proposals on both sides of the Caspian for large-scale hydrogen export projects targeted at European markets are ambitious, the complexity of delivery means they may take years to mature. Azerbaijan’s military actions in Nagorno-Karabakh may also impact European willingness to increase energy reliance on Azerbaijan. By successfully navigating these obstacles, Caspian producers can further contribute to European energy security.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Caspian_Gas_Pipeline
The Trans-Caspian Gas Pipeline is a proposed subsea pipeline between Türkmenbaşy in Turkmenistan, and Baku in Azerbaijan. According to some proposals it would also include a connection between the Tengiz Field in Kazakhstan, the Sangachal Terminal in Baku, and Türkmenbaşy.[1] The Trans-Caspian Gas Pipeline project would transport natural gas from Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan to European Union member countries, circumventing both Russia and Iran. It would do this by feeding the Southern Gas Corridor. This project attracts significant interest since it would connect vast Turkmen gas resources to major consumers Turkey and Europe.[2] . . . The project is heavily criticized by Russia and Iran, previously significant transit countries for Turkmen gas and current competitors.
Yes, the US/ UK oligarchs military build up in Romania has been ongoing for some time. In regards to getting their avarice paws on the natural resources of pressent Russian Federation and former USSR republics, this MO has been in operation since approximately 1991.
Here is Sergei Lavrov’s statement .
https://johnhelmer.net/what-is-russia-deciding-for-terms-to-end-the-war-in-the-ukraine-gorilla-radio-explains/
So you don’y find it strange that the major targets in London did not get destroyed.
Missed the houses of parliament . big ben , Buckingham palace, St Pauls cathedral.
UK started bombing German Cities and the Blitz was Germany’s response but don’t tel the children we were not the good guys.
During the war, both GM and Ford’s subsidiaries in Germany produced war materials for the German military. These factories were subsequently bombed by Allied forces during the war. After the war ended, both GM and Ford filed claims against the U.S. government under the Foreign Claims Act to seek compensation for the damages their facilities had incurred from Allied bombing raids. Despite the fact that their German operations had supported the Nazi war effort, both companies were awarded compensation by the U.S. government for their losses. GM received about $33 million and Ford about $1 million for the damages to their German factories
“ so you don’y find it strange that the major targets in London did not get destroyed. Missed …, Buckingham palace..”
Another example of the “ they are all in it together “ cult ignorance of history.
https://www.grunge.com/829978/the-truth-about-the-time-buckingham-palace-was-bombed/
But not destroyed . Near misses could be faked
Yes, I see so because everyone didn’t die in the Nazi Blitz’s on U.K. cities in WW2, according to this ‘ logic’, it could have been faked.
That’s whataboutery, which is not helpful. I’m going to ask you to stop cynically posting waffle, which you are clearly doing. Enough. A2
Hmm, so ” they are in together ” followers are not posting ‘What aboutery” regarding the Iranian strikes on The Zionist apartheid regime either ?
I think you are spamming attitudes rather than arguments, which is a disinfo tactic. I’m getting tired of seeing you sneering at people using phrases like the above, it’s repetitive. You’re entitled to argue from evidence and logic, but you are just talking past people here. A lot of your recent comments have been filler material preoccupied with emotionally characterising your interlocutor and saturating comment threads, making conversation hard to follow. Not the first time Admin has seen you resort to this approach. So no more of that, please. I realise you won’t agree with admin’s decision, and that’s fine. You’re welcome to continue commenting, but be warned I’ll hold back more of the same. Thanks, A2
Missing the point mate.
Now if you showed me evidence that Churchill and Hitler had made gentleman’s agreements to warn each other in advance about air raids so no real damage was done, yeah, that would be strange.
You’ll be saying the 1st World War “pack up your troubles in your old kit bag” was all for a good cause next.
Standard procedures in the new normal.
Perhaps, you have never heard of the hotline between Moscow and Washington during the height of the Cold War to ensure that humanity didn’t end up in radioactive dust. No doubt, “ they are all in it together “ cult will claim nuclear weapons don’t exist !
Have you seen Dr Strangelove? President Muffley speaking to Soviet Leader ‘Dimitri’? Imagine this rapport, plus the internet age and the capacity to catalogue humanity to an extent the Xfiles never even dreamed of. Priorities would shift. See Covid.
Let’s try to explain in as simplest terms as possible so you and the fellow “ we are all in together “ followers grasp. In WW2 the V2, cutting edge Nazi military technology, had a range of approximately 175 miles with a payload of 2,200 lbs which would destroy a sizeable building.
In comparison, the latest strategic nuclear ballistic missiles
Russia’s newest weapon is the RS-28 Sarmat “Satan-2” missile, with 10 heavy reentry vehicles, each with enough payload to wipe out an area the size of Texas or France. It also features The hypersonic glide vehicles to make it less detectable by U.S. or space-based sensor systems and could be immune to American missile defense systems.
Therefore, it is in nobody’s interest to start a nuclear war, unless of course you are “ they are all in it together “ member and nuclear weapons are a make believe story. Whereby no evidence on Earth will convince except of course a glowing in the dark scenario and by that time it’s to late.
Thankfully, the “ they are all in it together “ cult are not making decisions!
Give over with your bollocks. That hasn’t got anything to do with anything I’m talking about.
You’ve got front though, posting the same old bollocks over and over and copping an attitude like “How many times have I told you”, when you fucking know you’re posting rubbish.
Show some real evidence or fuck right off
Whilst Im forced to change light bulbs to save the planet. The Green war machine trundles on. Billions spent manufacturing sustainable bombs and missiles and making sure the explosions are eco friendly. Im sure rockets may use a bit more fuel than my solar panels and heat pump could provide.
Its all fkn nonsense.
We spent decades mandating efficient bulbs and appliances, then AI came to town and all that went out the window. What gives pollytician?
I suppose you could call it Green Defence, as no one launches wars. Similar to Green Growth and Green Energy Intensity in production.
Never Forget!
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/israels-netanyahu-congratulates-biden-on-us-election-win-thanks-trump-idUSKBN27O07P
Israel’s Netanyahu congratulates Biden on U.S. election win, thanks Trump
By Maayan Lubell
November 8, 2020
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated U.S. President-elect Joe Biden on Sunday, hailing a strong alliance that could be burdened by differences over policy on Iran and the Palestinians.
“Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris. Joe, we’ve had a long & warm personal relationship for nearly 40 years, and I know you as a great friend of Israel. I look forward to working with both of you to further strengthen the special alliance between the U.S. and Israel,” Netanyahu said on his Twitter account, which still carries a photograph of him and incumbent U.S. President Donald Trump at its head.
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Trump on “loyalty” – in conversation with Charlie Rose (1992)
It’s the end of the world as we know it, and those in control feel fine. Namely, there is the end-of-days narrative of a bog-ordinary hurricane in Florida, then the need to take the world to war against a) Russia and b) China, with the view that both wars are necessary and desirable, plus, not least, the ongoing campaign to take out the governments of Venezuela and Iran, countries that are, shall we say, not defenceless.
So, indeed, the West has the end of the existing world in mind, and all who stand in the way will be steamrolled.
Can’t help but notice that WW3 nuclear holocaust didn’t happen – yet again.
How many times has it been trending now in the last 2 years since the wheels came off the covid wagon?
How many more times will it happen before people start thinking maybe it’s just another scare tactic to keep us occupied?
Brendon O Connell’s latest a 3 minute summary of his proof that Iran is another fully paid up member of the big club. Essential viewing and includes the Trump interview where he explains how Bibi backed out of a military hit against Iran because…..reasons. As always, all is not what it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA-3_uUj7c
Phil Giraldi (fmr CIA/Army Intel): Israel’s Control Over Americahttps://rumble.com/v52g3gc-phil-giraldi-israels-control-over-america.html
Scott Ritter says Israel’s Doffense Force is Losing on All Fronts:
https://yt3.ggpht.com/H_7rOsz8jYFnCgvy_b8tFMhO_EFGyH1l8GON_tClwbL3HqJ0nBg9UHBXhXI3qjdlGUa1x1wODA=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj
Danny Haiphong
Who cares what that pedo globalist shill says? He worked for the UN, he’s shilling bogus “multipolar” bullshit 24/7 these days, probably because his bosses could put him behind bars for being a perv if he doesn’t do as he’s told.
“ ..xxxxx” Have you worked for the MSM because they use very similar techniques of smearing and character assassination!
The guy showed his penis to what he thought was an underage kid. Are you ok with that ? If that was your daughter you’d be golden would you. No worries mate, get your todger out for my 15 year old any time.
I know you run his bloody fan club but you’re not going to excuse what he done right? If you’re ok with that type of thing I’m not going to be ok talking to you. Sorry mate. I’ve got a daughter that age.
I not here to defend Ritter or to engage in, as it put to me recently ‘ whataboutery’, since he is an ardent critic of US foreign policy, and they have a track record of setting people up.
I suggest you reflect more carefully before descending into their depths of smear, character assassination and malignant malicious intent!
Touches of the gutter press.
Hmm” I run his fan club..” I am afraid this continual use of MSM tactics by you does you no credit.
Just to repeat again, I ain’t your mate.
Let’s argue the facts about the Israel situation, not people’s criminal records (or lack thereof). I’m going to ask we stop this here, it’s all getting a bit nasty. Thank you, A2
Thank you Sam.
Belt & Road
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Haifa
The Port of Haifa is the largest of Israel’s three major international seaports, the others being the Port of Ashdod, and the Port of Eilat. Its natural deep-water harbor operates all year long and serves both passenger and merchant ships. It is one of the largest ports in the eastern Mediterranean in terms of freight volume and handles about 30 million tons of cargo per year (not including Israel Shipyards’ port). The port employs over 1,000 people, rising to 5,000 when cruise ships dock in Haifa.[1] The Port of Haifa lies north of Haifa’s downtown quarter on the Mediterranean and stretches to some three kilometres along the city’s central shore with activities ranging from military, industrial, and commercial next to a nowadays-smaller passenger cruising facility.
As of 2018, the Israel Port Authority is managing the construction of the first phase of a major expansion of the port at a cost of NIS 4 billion (approximately US$1.1 billion). . . . The new container terminal was built by the Israeli construction firms Ashtrom and Shapir Marine & Civil Engineering and officially inaugurated on 1 September 2021.[11] Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) won an international tender to operate the new terminal for a period of 25 years on completion.[12]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93China_25-year_Cooperation_Program
The Iran–China 25-year Cooperation Program or Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between I.R. Iran, P.R. China[2] is a 25-year cooperation agreement on the further development of Iran–China relations signed in Tehran by the Chinese and Iranian foreign ministers on 27 March 2021; the final details of the agreement have yet to be officially announced. Under a draft of the 25-year agreement (signed on 24 June 2020 in Beijing)[3][4] previously obtained by The New York Times, China is to invest US$400 billion in Iran’s economy over that time period in exchange for a steady and heavily-discounted supply of oil from Iran.[5][6][7] The key details of the deal were originally reported by British journalist and author, Simon Watkins, in an article published on 3 September 2019 in Petroleum Economist stating that the agreement includes up to $280 billion towards developing Iran’s oil, gas and petrochemicals sectors and another investment of $120 billion towards upgrading Iran’s transportation and manufacturing infrastructure.[8][9] According to Iranian authorities, reviving the Chinese One Belt One Road Initiative is also part of the agreement.[10]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwadar
Gwadar is a port city on the southwestern coast of the Pakistani province of Balochistan. The city is located on the shores of the Arabian Sea, opposite Oman . . . The sister port city of Chabahar in Iran’s Sistan ve Baluchestan province is about 170 km (110 mi) to the west of Gwadar.
In April 2015, Pakistan and China announced their intention to develop the $46 billion China–Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC),[9] which in turn forms part of China’s ambitious One Belt, One Road.[10] Gwadar features heavily in CPEC, and is also envisaged to be the link between the One Belt, One Road and Maritime Silk Road project.[11] $1.153 billion worth of infrastructure projects will be invested into the city as part of CPEC,[12] with the aim of linking northern Pakistan and western China to the deep water seaport.[13]
The city will also be the site of a floating liquefied natural gas facility that will be built as part of the larger $2.5 billion Gwadar–Nawabshah segment of the Iran–Pakistan gas pipeline project.[14] Despite concerns over the United States sanctions on Iran, Pakistan is going ahead constructing a pipeline from the Iranian border to Gwadar as of 2024. This is partly to avoid contractual penalties and partly to avoid over reliance on the Gwadar Coal–Power Plant which requires imported coal.[15]
In addition to investments directly under the aegis of CPEC in the Gwadar city, the China Overseas Port Holding Company in June 2016, began construction on the $2 billion Gwadar Special Economic Zone,[16] which is being modelled on the lines of the special economic zones of China.[17]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabahar_Port
Chabahar Port is a seaport in Chabahar located in southeastern Iran, on the Gulf of Oman. It serves as Iran’s only oceanic port, and consists of two separate ports named Shahid Kalantari and Shahid Beheshti, each of which has five berths.[2] It is only about 170 kilometres west of the Pakistani port of Gwadar.
Iran has stated that Chabahar is not a rival to Pakistan’s Gwadar and invited Pakistan to join in its development. Pakistani analysts have endorsed the view, stating that Gwadar has an advantage by being a deep sea port and the expansion of Chabahar would in fact expand trade through Gwadar. Larger vessels that cannot dock at Chabahar could dock at Gwadar and the cargo transshipped to Chabahar.[96] Pakistan’s foreign policy advisor Sartaj Aziz has signalled that Pakistan may link the Gwadar port to Chabahar.[97]
IDF just opened investigation why five or six Hezbollah rockets hit Haifa just few hours ago on Oct 7. On October 1 Iran primarily targeted and reportedly hit many Israeli Air Defense Systems including at airbase near Haifa. Coincidence?
https://t.me/uklad_warszawski/26171
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia
The value has been proven many times, with the island providing an “unsinkable aircraft carrier” for the United States during the Iranian revolution, the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Operation Desert Fox, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedom.
I’ve got tarred with calling everything fake, but that is not what I do. I just look at evidence.
It never crossed my mind a war could be “fake” until I started seeing what was coming out of Ukraine in 2022, which has never made a bit of sense in military terms.
I started looking for video and photo evidence of what was going on because the stories were just not adding up and I started seeing there was no video or photos of real combat, or real war situations, and at the same time tons of weird video of what was claimed to be Russian forces engaged in combat and which obviously weren’t that at all.
I mean I know about combat. It was my job. I know what it looks like and what rules it follows, if you know what I mean.
So like if you make cars for a living and someone posts pictures of a car production plant where all the machinery is old or not tooled for making cars and the assembly lines are staffed by guys who obviously don’t know what they’re doing, you’re going to turn round and say “that’s not a bloody car factory”. Well, that was me in 2022.
I was like, I don’t know what is or isn’t going on out there, but if there’s a real war going on the these pictures aren’t showing it.
That’s all I’ve been doing, reacting to the evidence, or lack of it.
To this day I’ve never see evidence for professional Russian combat divisions in Ukraine. I haven’t seen one report of Russian or Ukraine strategy or war aims that made any bloody sense. I mean I could talk about that all day.
And then we had the silicone bodies. I mean wtf! I’m not saying no one died, but both sides were for definite using fake bodies sometimes. Just a fact. Why?
So I’m just not prepared to believe anything any more on someone’s say so, and if something looks dodgy to me or makes no sense to me I’m going to say so.
Sorry if it offends.
People believe what they want to believe, contrary to the facts I might add.
You are having a laugh. You have been shown an overwhelming amount of evidence regarding the conflict in the Ukraine, yet, this fantasy that it’s all make believe really is beyond the pale.
but how do we know it’s true/real?
First hand accounts, Satellite images, independent reporters on the ground etc
First hand accounts? You personally know and trust the sources do you? Satellite images? You alone control the data from satellites do you? Independent reporters? You can personally vouch for them can you?
“ ..You personally….”
Hmm, So people who have studied the effects of poisons, such as berries, Mercury etc, state the effects from these substances are potentially fatal because you don’t personally know them you dismiss it !
Get a grip !
What would be an acceptable definition for a REAL WAR? Tank armies? Infantry columns?
The story continues to not make any sense. We have people on all sides making totally 180 degree contradictory statements in the same breath.
“It wasn’t a real attack, just a demo of Iran’s power, that’s why they warned Israel in advance and why they only hit non-essential targets with low yield weaponry”,
but also, from same people
“Iran wiped out all Israel’s f-35s and flattened Mossad HQ and completely obliterated all their airfields.”
And from other places
“Iron Dome works 100%”
but also,
“Iron Dome didn’t work at all”
Anyone who claims to know what actually went on at this point is fooling themselves.
One thing is for sure, it was something in between.
Blockquote fail, edit fail.
Iran made a red line which Israel doesnt dare to cross. Israel wont cross this red line now, because they now know it will be over for good if they do it!
Who is making the first claim ?
Who is making the 2nd claim ?
Who is making the 3rd claim ?
Who is making the last claim?
“ Anyone who claims to know..”
Perhaps, you can enlighten those who are not in the “ they are all in it together “ cult who are making these claims?
😂
Based on web found pictures the whole “Gaza genocide” is fake.
Not even going into the numbers supplied by Hamas/ UNWRA which mix armed men with women and children: a complete hoax.
Irak’s WMD were non existing, same for Libya and Iran; Israel too, why not?
/s
“web found pictures”?
I didn’t know the web could find pictures.
The revelation of the nuclear weapons hoax is relevant because world-ending nuclear war is what people expect when they hear “WWIII”. The apocalyptic death cult is coming to an end.
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/index.html
The “global fallout from later bomb tests” is not proof that such bombs exist or are usable as weapons.
Let’s get some facts and context.
At minimum Iran showed its capability to defeat Israeli ADS and needs be to destroy Israeli ability to operate Air Force bases from which attack on Iran would commence. It was no all out attack to completely destroy IDF Air Forces but they show it was possible as they scored unimpeded 32 hits on one single air base in Nevatim alone.
Confirmation multiple hit onto Israeli Air Force at Nevatim from Military Watch:
it is unlikely that all 60+ Israeli F-35s were able to take off as even in US at maximum readiness 29% of all F-35s are out for maintenance usually 50%. In recent Hurricane in Florida as many were damaged at US Air Force bases despite days ahead warning.
Posted on Telegram:
Nevatim 15 direct hits:
https://t.me/intelslava/67529
more hits.
https://t.me/intelslava/67524
Satellite imagery post hit.
Overall shows 32 hits
https://t.me/intelslava/67776
Close up of part of the base.
https://t.me/intelslava/67800
Haifa military installations hit:
https://t.me/intelslava/67515
Mossad headquarters in Tel Aviv was significantly damaged.
hit itself;
https://t.me/intelslava/67564
Aftermath on the ground:
https://t.me/intelslava/67601
Most of the sources are from Israel. Even Der Spiegel and other EU MSM admitted that Israeli air defenses have been severely bridged.
Not fake. it was a demonstration of Iranian power not it actual use as in real attack after Israeli ADS was disabled by guided aeroballistic hypersonic/supersonic missiles supersonic cruise missiles would’ve finished it off and then long range drones would’ve attack thousands of targets at will virtually unopposed in many waves one after another for many hours while surveillance drones monitored developments and updated targets. IDF Aircraft that would’ve been able to take off before a hit would’ve nowhere to land safely without damage. Without direct US intervention Israeli military capabilities and infrastructure would have been massively reduced within hours.
Has anyone suggested it was fake? We certainly have not
Israel claimed there was no damage, and at least a few in the commentariat suggest that it’s all fake….
They can tell you anything.
But…..if this is true and I believe this is true, it also means that Iran and Russia and China and many other actors had the ability and could have stopped all this killing around Israel during 70 years.
So why did they not stop it? Because they wanted the 70 years plus of friction and conflict to happen.
We are back to the “They are all in it” again yes?
From 1991 to approximately 2000, the Russian Federation was being controlled by the City of London/ Western intelligence puppets and economically plus financially raped by the West. It was in position to stop anything outside of its own borders since it was fighting Western orchestrated conflicts ie Chechnya, using similar methods to what has happened in Syria. One of the benefits of studying history is grasping the bigger picture instead of seeing snapshots. Hence why some have a belief of “ they are all in it together “.
So it wasn’t a “real” attack, but it still wasn’t fake. How does that work?
Well, I don’t know now many managed to take off and neither do you, but aren’t you missing the major point here-
Why the hell was Iran giving them a chance to take off at all?
Why did they warn their “enemy” in advance of what they were going to do? Since when the fuck is that how you prosecute a war?
All they’ve done is piss off Israel and leaven them with the means to hit back.
You’re contradicting yourself now. Did Iran cripple Israel in a “real attack” or was it just a “demonstration”?
This is the bloody problem, the story isn’t even consistent. It makes no sense.
All I know is neither the satellite images nor the aftermath pics nor those useless pics of the night sky showing a few slow-moving rockets and a lot of flares, in any way corroborate claims of major destruction. They show very minor destruction on airfields , a few holes in the ground, a few small smashed up building and a couple of dinted cars.
If there was major destruction – and maybe there was – there is NO evidence of it being produced so far. So I don’t know justify saying it’s a fact.
And just everyone get their stories straight. Was this a huge hit by Iran that wiped out the Israeli airforce or was it just a “demo” not designed to do any actual damage?
The fact both claims are being made at the same time by the same people just goes to show how totally mad the situation is and how no one is even trying to be rational about it.
Kalen has provided 7 sites as evidence to support their post and you have provided..?
For Israel’s response to Iran’s rocket barrage: most oil users don’t wish them to target Iranian oil output, but they do want the Iranian nuke game off the table. If the Iranians get nukes, the Saudis want those too. Many common Iranians wish the end of the negative Ayatollah regime, women and positives first.
Oh please, don’t start introducing common sense points !
Stop mischaracterising everyone here as saying everything is fake. It’s a dishonest tactic. Enough now. Very little tolerance shall be given to future such posts. A2
No WW111 is not just around the corner.
I have been hearing this WW11 is going to happen since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
It did not happen then and it is not going to happen now.
This is not the first time Israel has attacked Beirut or the second or the third.
Its 26 hr (2,299.4 km) from Israel to Iran so I guess there tanks wont make the journey.
No They can not win just by air and a land invasion is not possible.
So just the normal fear of the impossible as a means of distraction of what is happening
that they do not what you to think about. In the UK they are closing the steel and coal plants as they destroy energy security. Billions spent on the war in Ukraine but we need more austerity . New Boss same as the old Boss or maybe the real Boss never changed .
Dear Editor,
I think it is correct to say we are on “the brink of global war”. As the pattern of history shows, the hoped-for endgame in war is always victory. And the agenda is always power. And the ultimate end is always defeat. Rulers and elites are blind to this, deludedly marching us all to the abyss of nuclear Armageddon. They either cannot see this or they cannot avert it, as the growing conflict becomes more complex and intractable. Only, perhaps, a simple syllogism can focus minds: every empire in history has eventually faced the war it wanted to avoid; everyone wants to avoid WWIII; therefore, that is the fate that awaits mankind. This is not a matter for debate: it is a message to be acted upon – a pure logic that needs to be conveyed to the world and its rulers, otherwise humanity will certainly perish. I have banned on a number of sites for attempting to convey this message. I explore this theme in my recent e-pamphlet, The Doomsday Syllogism, and my book, The pattern of History. A small contribution to this mortal debate. And I would be grateful to anyone who wants to support me, even it is by sharing the link. My thanks to offGuardian for allowing me the freedom to express these views.
https://www.candlinandmynard.com/doomsday.html
That’s simplistic thinking. Many people want WW3 so they can get the chance to profit from it, or at least wipe out their enemies.
Your point is well taken in terms of history – and even more so in terms of human nature. Societies – not just the “elites” ruling them but essentially everyone within these societies – want wealth and power. And for a time most of the people within an empire profit; but then the inevitable decline comes and the ruling “elites” start feeding of their own people the way a starving body feeds off itself. That is when desperation sets in; and all the signs say that is where the US empire is now.
BTW, vis-a-vis this decline, there’s something going around (a “conspiracy theory”) that, since lithium deposits have been discovered in the western North Carolina mountains, hurricane Helene was deliberately steered (using ionosphere heaters) in such a way as to all but destroy Asheville, NC and a number of adjacent towns. A friend of my niece from a town called Warren sent her a video of a huge mud slide (which looked like a mini lahar) sweeping through Warren and washing houses away.
The agenda formulated a long time ago is a NWO. Two world wars failed to being this about. The post-1945 period saw a greater emphasis on soft power in achieving this goal – given the West’s military limitations. In a speech at the CFR in 2010 Brzezinski admitted the failure of the project due to global resistance. Nevertheless, 2020 saw a final push of Western soft power in the form of an so-called epidemic. It’s failure led to a last desperate attempt to deal with the thorny question of Russia, the perennial sovereign state. They drew a blank. The West is now finished as a hegemonic power. The danger of WW3 now rests on the ability of the West to accept reality or go for a final “better dead than red” conflagration. However, the Western elites don’t do self-sacrifice and so can be expected to come quietly in the end
Are nations at war now routinely warning each other before they attack to make sure nothing important gets damaged?
As claimed here
Anyone got an answer?
Wow, I read the link. I wish the author gave a citation for the claim Russia and Ukraine routinely warn each other before starting an attack, so they don’t do too much damage! He says it in passing like it’s not much of a deal, but like you say, it seems quite crazy!
Since when is that now wars are prosecuted? What is going on?
Didn’t happen in the Yugoslavian war, didn’t happen in the Iraq war, didn’t happen in The Afghanistan war but is happening now ?
Answer, Russian Federation!
Read digest and learn !
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/clarity-after-iran-strike-as-israel
It’s 2014.
Klaus Schwab is discussing his aspirations for global governance with his lead social scientist, Yuval Harari.
Klaus – “The more we tighten our grip, the more they slip through our fingers. We need to herd humanity into a cybergulag so we can control them”
Yuval – “A cybergulag! A cybergulag?! Great Scott!” How are we going to generate that sort of power? It can’t be done!”
Klaus – “All we need is for them to be in such fear they will beg us for the safety it seemingly provides.”
Yuval – “I’m sure that you think that type of fear is easy to generate, but it isn’t. People are resilient.”
Klaus – “There must be a way, Yuval. I have great plans for the future of humanity.”
Yuval – “Are they pretty?”
Klaus (plaintively) – “They’re beautiful”
Yuval – “Klaus I’m sorry, but the only thing that can generate enough fear to manufacture consent for a Huxwellian cybergulag is the threat of WWIII.”
Klaus – “What did you say?”
Yuval – “The threat of WWIII! The trouble is, you never know when or where a conflict that might plausibly escalate into such a thing will strike”
Klaus (holding up a map of Ukraine) – “We do now.”
Yuval (animatedly) – “This is IT! This is the answer! If we can provoke Putin into action in Ukraine, ……if we can somehow……harness the conflict……… channel the concerns into fears that they might escalate into WWIII, then……………by 2025, we’ll send humanity………..back to the dystopian future!”
Putin’s a globalist too. You don’t need to provoke him, just tell him what to do and he’ll play his part, like with the covid bollocks
Yes, fine.
So the West vs East is a false paradigm – a WWIII charade being conducted for our benefit to manufacture consent for a cybergulag. But if the goal is global governance, the WEF/BIS will need Russia and China to take their seats at the table. And that will be tricky if they seem culpable for the crisis.
So should we be expecting a crisis event that can be pinned on anyonymous actors? Perhaps a cyber event targeting the global credit markets, blamed on actual Anonymous?
Hmm, any evidence to support this claim?
Following the plan!
https://www.hudson.org/events/2122-virtual-event-war-ukraine-and-a-global-alliance-for-freedom62022
Michael Pompeo: War, Ukraine, and a Global Alliance for Freedom
Jun 24, 2022
Hudson Institute
Moving past our current geo-strategic focus, the United States must help in building of the three lighthouses for liberty. These beacons should be centered on nations that have great strife: Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. They can be the hubs of new security architecture that links alliances of free nations globally, reinforcing the strengths of each member state, in time, linking these three bastions with NATO, as well as the new and expanded security framework for the Indo-Pacific will form a global alliance for freedom. This will benefit America.
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4905998-mike-pompeo-us-wrong-seek-cease-fire-israel
Pompeo says US wrong to seek cease-fire, Israel should ‘finish the job’
Sep 29, 2024
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Mike Pompeo (Nov 10, 2020):
There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration. . . . I’m very confident that we will do all the things that are necessary to make sure that the United States Government will continue to perform its national security function as we go forward.
Mama mia. Lavrov’s sentence about an ape with a hand grenade comes to mind.
Are the Elite in US really that stupid? It seems they are.
This morning, my email included an invite to a pro-Peace march in Auckland. Sadly, living in rain-sodden Dunedin, I cannot join them. However, at the bottom of the notice was this image of a masked face with covid-ese fear messages
“COVID is still circulating. Even so-called “mild” infections and asymptomatic infections can result in Long Covid, and the more times you’re infected, the greater the risk of long-term harm. Stop the train of transmission by wearing a well-fitted respirator when in public spaces and when gathering with those outside of your household. Reduce the risk by opening windows for better ventilation and use HEPA air purifiers. Vaccination and boosters can help reduce your chance of ending up in the hospital, but they do not prevent infection, nor do they prevent Long Covid.”
This joining of sane anti-war protests with insane Covid ideology suggests a confluence of hidden agendas. A friend had a tee-shirt saying “Nuke gay whales” which seems logical by comparison with the aforementioned…
Propaganda may also be done on per-piece or commission basis.
Might be an idea to find the ghoul who drew this and… make sure they are wearing a mask.
I agree with OffG.It’s just as Orwell said. It is impossible to know what is true.
Ever hear of walking and chewing gum at the same time? Lots of people here seem unable to do so, in terms of understanding the global dynamics as being two simultaneous contradictory processes. On one hand, capital is being concentrated and centralized, hence the 4IR. On the other hand, the inherent tendency toward competition and fragmentation also plays out. The various powers are pulling the world together, rounding up everything, but increasingly also fighting each other as to who will be in the top spots, and that’s getting more furious.
Same thing happened before WWI. Same thing before WWII, when the Bank for International Settlements was founded, and indeed it functioned through WWII, with Reichsbank head Emil Puhl in charge. Were the two world wars fake? No, millions died, lots of damage, and they were trying to damage each other to the max.
This is part of the insanity of the global capitalist system. The current events in SW Asia (aka Middle East) demonstrate this. We could well see everything blow up while the powers continue cooperating on other matters.
I take your point but I don’t know how well it applies to what we are actually seeing with our eyes right now.
“Covid” was not a replay of anything from pre-ww1 or 2. We have never experienced anything quite like it before. It was defined as unique and world changing by those endorsing it, and I think we should pay attention to that.
It showed us a truly astonishing level of global coordination did it not. We saw allegedly deep and bitter conflicts put aside in order to put forward a message that we had a new common enemy in a virus. Never seen before. It was like a layer of deception was put aside and we saw a little deeper into the Matrix.
You say the world is being pulled together but also there is fighting for the top spot.
Ok, sure, except the “fighting” appears to be so performative in so many ways that are really hard to understand.
Did you read the comment posted by Red Pill below? Quite extraordinary stuff if true.
I’m not a military strategist but I do admit the war in Ukraine has never seemed quite right. So many odd factors, not so much each on their own but they build to create a question – in my mind at least.
Is this a genuine struggle for top place, or is it a more Orwellian type of situation, in which war is being used more as a means of controlling us and of blinding is to those forces of “pulling together” you talk about?
Isn’t that an equally plausible explanation of what we see, and one which would additionally explain the apparently inexplicable failure of any side to even try to achieve victory?
If the war not meant to be won these actions finally make sense, no?
I think Catte Black wrote an article about the nature of war when the motives are obscured. In my opinion she did not go far enough into an exploration of how literally fake a war could be before it would become apparent to helpless spectators like us, she remained accepting that the war itself would be real – real deaths and destruction. I increasingly wonder if we should consider how unreal it could become without us knowing.
Not an either/or. Every situation will be used and manipulated to enhance state control. Yes, “COVID” is a new one, an op which was entirely a psyop, no actual material reality to it, aside from its material impacts.
The damage and deaths in SW Asia, be it Gaza, the West Bank or Lebanon, are very real. Some people here even imagine it’s all faked. I know people who live in the region. Such notions are off the wall.
More like welcome to it…
Time to make a friend of fear and prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
In solidarity with you all.
Peace Salaam Shalom
What’s happening in West Asia (the Middle East) is very much a game changer – but not in any of the publicly stated ways. It’s a “Do or Die” moment; an “Is It or Isn’t It” moment; and very very much an “Are they or aren’t they all in it together” moment.
As many in this forum have said, there is an aura of unreality about it all. But now both the West (i.e., the US) and Iran have supposedly lighted the fuse: the US has all but announced it will help Israel attack Iran; and for its part, Iran has said it finally realizes the West fully intends to destroy it.
I’m one of only a few in this forum who has resisted the siren song of “They’re all working together to make it all look real!” So now, the US and Iran must put up or compel me to shut up.
They told us they were going to do it, in plain sight. Project for the new American century. Multi theatre wars in the following countries. They were never going to hide behind the same reasoning each time; even the sheepy majority would have seen through that. So an entirely coincidental series of unexpected events, leading to invasions, or proxy invasions, as planned, in this order, and I quote: Afghanistan (harbouring terrorists); Iraq (wmds/democratic regime change); Libya (popular uprising/firing on his own people); Syria (popular uprising/isis) and then the big one, Iran. Tricky that. What about self defence by the only democracy in the Middle East? Perfect.
I can’t make this out at all. What is supposed to be happening and why do all the wars since 2020 feel just off and fake?
I think a better view is, that the wars are not fake — 3,000 Yussies died in the Bush/NetanYahoo war against the U$A called Con-911, a million Iraqis died in the Bush/BLiar war against Iraq called Con-WMD, and 12 Million people a year are dying in the global Pharma war against humanity called Con-19. But the alleged reasons for these wars are all fake — in fact, gigantic carefully planned Con tricks..
Hey Nick, Admin asked you if you wanted her to post the screengrab of you pretending to be two different people. Are you going to answer her? 🤣
You’re off your trolley. mate. I answered Sophie.
Terra Incognita did state that the wars SINCE 2020 feel fake, not those prior to it.
As regards Covid-1984 that was a co-ordinated global war against humanity by all ‘sides’, including the nations that you support.
Still ‘Top of the Pops’ are the mass murders by the communists of their own people (100 million plus) who you regularly cheerlead for. Let’s not forget that ‘achievement’.
The psychos who rule and have ruled in ‘Communist’ countries are not Communists, they are autocrats, very greedy autocrats.
< the wars SINCE 2020 feel fake,>
Go to Ukraine and ask your smart-phone’s translator app to ask the parents of 500,000 soldier boys in their own language if they feel that their sons are alive and well. You will be surprised by their answers. Ask your smartphone to take photos of the environment; and you will be surprised by what they record.
In the world of “ they are all in together “ the relatives of these deceased are all part of the Globalists plot !
To say this is a “war” is to participate in the false narrative that aims to legitimise Israel’s existence. Israel is the definition of a rogue terrorist state and has no right to exist even if their ancestral land claim was not yet more bare-faced lies, by people who largely don’t even look semitic as they are grifters from Ukraine and Russia.
OG has never to my knowledge in the time I have been reading ever defended Israel or its genocide. Why are you making that assertion?
God showed up 4-5,000 years ago and a tribe in Judea followed Moses who came down from the mountain with tablets from god. Abraham too showed up to directed things. There is no historical proof for Moses, Abraham of for that matter Jesus Christ. It’s a fairytale played out the expense of humanity. Palestine for Palestinians.
And for the record, there is no evidence of the “golden kingdom” of David/Solomon, not written, from the religion of “the word”, nor built, by Solomon the “great builder”. Just saying. And in doing so, likely committing a hate crime, soz.
In relatively recent history the whole area was part of the Ottoman Empire and the people who lived their for the most part got along with each other (because if they didn’t the Turks would have “or elsed” them). Things started changing around the turn of the 20th century with the modern Zionist movement, a movement born in Europe in the mid to late 19th century that was similar other ‘volk’ based movements that sprung up around the same time. This movement not only advocated a return to ‘our’ land but also displacing the locals, anyone who wasn’t of the appropriate race. This naturally led to friction and eventually a full blown terrorist movement during the Mandate. The treatment of jews during the Nazi era, especially in Germany where most Jews never thought of themselves as anything other than Germans, added an aura of legitimacy to the Zionist movement and led to the creation of the State of Israel. This further annoyed the neighbors but at that time they were effectively powerless to do anything about this state, a situation that continued until relatively recently because nobody had the power to challenge the state and its Western backers. The situation in Ukraine and with regard to China has demonstrated the limits of Western power so you can expect more and more frequent challenges and a continuing deterioration of the situation unless people mend their ways and learn to get on with their neighbors.
(Added into this unsatisfactory situation is a rapacious leader who needs to stay in power to keep his ass out of jail (…..and I’m not talking about Trump).)
The Abrahamic God is the Mother Of All Psy-ops.
X marks the spot ?
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841183543093051731
I will believe it 100% as soon as anyone can show clear daylight evidence for severe damage concomitant with what is alleged.
Just want actual hard evidence. Not some bloke on twitter or some anonymous account making unverifiable claims.
Hence the ?
Fair point, sorry I missed the ?
It not just this post, there are many many many more recordings of the Iranians attacking Israeli targets, including, satellite photos etc
However, if you told them, and proved it with evidence, that the Earth travelled around the Sun they still wouldn’t accept it !
Can you point to where the satellite evidence and so on is to be found?
It’s on Telegram.
Where on Telegram? I think we need to narrow it down a little more!
I have already posted this so I will try again.
https://southfront.press/satellite-images-show-damage-at-key-israeli-air-base-after-iranian-missile-attack/
It does appear to show some damage, but scarcely the magnitude claimed by some, including you possibly?
Air fields destroyed? Entire fleet of F-35s destroyed?
I don’t see anything indicative of that do you?
I read the statement the Iranians made rather than what others claim.
Buy a telescope or binoculars!
Not only Johnny’s video but thousands of facts point to the evidence that Iran ONLY goes after dooish children, elderly dooish women and disabled dooish Israelis in wheel chairs.
These groups are the only ones who end up dead and serious wounded by the monsters from the Iranian Priest Governance. Choose your side!
I suggest you study more carefully what has been happening rather than making sweeping comments!
All this evil merry-go-round will continue indefinitely unless people wake up to the nuclear weapons scam. THERE ARE NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS EXCEPT “DIRTY BOMBS” USING REACTOR WASTE and of course these do not cause nuclear explosions. NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS ARE NOT POSSIBLE, ONLY SLOW REACTOR MELTDOWNS.
I’m interested what you base this claim on? Nuclear reactors create “slow” nuclear “explosions”, they could not work at all if critical mass – and therefore an explosion – was not possible. Control rods are used to slow the reaction and PREVENT an explosion.
Smallscale fission and fusion has been reached in the laboratory and observed many times by hundreds of physicists and technicians. I have observed it. It does happen. A nuclear bomb is just this reaction upgraded to critical mass creating a chain reaction. Nuclear bombs do exist, unfortunately.
Now as to whether Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear explosions, I am aware of data that does suggest they were not. I think it is possible the Manhattan Project failed to produce a viable weapon in time and fell back on a “fire bomb” or something similar.
But that was 79 years ago! There’s been plenty of time and a lot of dollars expended since then to perfect the technology. It works.
The chain reaction is too slow and cannot be weaponised. I am being pended because I dared question the off_g so see ya next time. You cannot definitively prove or disprove this because the (fake) science is of course classified but there are enough clues out there. Links will be posted at a later time.
Without intuition you will never see through all the lies and are destined to live in fear and ignorance.
Ok, so I understand you to say you have no data to back up your claim, just intuition. Intuition can be valuable of course, but in science I think data is the way to go and without it we don’t have any basis for making a challenge to the accepted science.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for challenging orthodoxy. But not simply with intuition! We need more.
Here you go: The first author does not claim or try to prove that nuclear weapons do not work today but shows that the US did not use any “atom bomb” on Japan. Even so, the belief that the USA has had nukes all this time but never used them again in any of its predatory wars is truly laughable given what we know about the US military mindset.
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/index.html
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/How-done.html
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CL4BT2CN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1BNUCMI29IMNL&keywords=oppenheimer%27s+deadly+toys&qid=1697448453&s=books&sprefix=oppenheimer%27s+deadly+toys%2Caps%2C312&sr=1-1
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/death-object-akio-nakatani/1126300515
How many of those sources are in depth scientifically researched by nuclear scientists rather than a hodgepodge of newspaper articles, random miscellaneous quotes, photographs and a computer programmer’s opinions ?
What got me skeptical re nuclear bombs is Japan. Where were all the cancer deaths after the US dropped their nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Could they have been white phosphorus bombs, given all the burning?
You’ve been tricked by time, God had to refresh the human being so as to not burn out the race before she had completed her task of, evolution.
It was mustard gas and napalm, along with conventional bombs, flash bombs and smoke bombs. The USA had already firebombed Tokyo and most other Japanese cities.
The effects of mustard gas (may its inventor’s dark soul burn in hell forever) are similar to radiation poisoning.
Hard factual scientific evidence please !
Some good stuff here by Scott Ritter and Mnar Adley from a couple of weeks ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/B8FwnlviW5zS
Mnar and Mintpress News is a project funded by Paul Larudee, ex-pat Iranian with a US mother, educated in the US, went to Georgetown, one of the spookiest spook colleges in the whole of America. Worked for the Ford Foundation (incase you are doubting exactly how much of a spook he is).
He also handles Grayzone and other limited hangouts which don’t talk too much about 9/11, give us some truths about the US, Israel and Gaza etc but only to soften us up for the big bait and switch to “multipolar” globalism.
Mnar gets funded by him to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars.
Mintpress is a controlled fake alt front for globalism. Period.
I don’t know about that. Did you watch the video? This is mostly about Israel and Hizbollah. Most of the meat here is Ritter, not Mnar. She reports on Israel’s Arab world allies and Yemeni successes against ships supplying weapons to Israel. Make of it what you will.
I don’t share Ritter’s enthusiasm for BRICS but it may bring an end to Israel’s war footing.
Interesting intel. funny how U.K column and them shills never get that type of who funds them on the site.
Give us a clue.
Whitney Webb et al? Is Unlimited Hangout also a limited hangout? Makes sense in Doublespeak.
Interesting that a report by Scott Ritter — a Senior Weapons Inspector of unquestioned integrity — should receive 0 upticks and 7 downticks by OffG readers. Let’s hear what Scott said.
A Wilderness of Mirrors sums it up !
Iran hit and levelled a fake Mossad Head quarter and made a big hole in an Highway road too.
Many parked cars wounded and some beggars sleeping on the road sides (100% civilians) were killed. One more case on the list of aggression piling up for UNSC and HRW.
Hey, forgot the link: Hezbollah Hits Mossad HQ in Tel Aviv! Highways Crippled After Missile Strike| Updates (bitchute.com)
I thought there were no casualties.
Missiles fired at Israel reminds me of the V1 and V2 rockets fired at the UK in WW2. The V2 hit without warning. Images of alleged attacks on Israel look like fireworks.
Reminds you? It means you must e between 95-105 years old to remember these cases.
My regrets, your senility does not impress me!
Reminds me of the history old chap, I was not there at the time. I trust you have studied some history, it can be quite instructive.
Sadly history repeats itself because people don’t learn the lessons. Thus we had to have COVID 19 thrust upon us.
Check your arithmetic. I am 90 years old, and was a child when Hitler’s Buzz Bombs and V2 fell on London.
180 ‘missiles’ fired at Israel. Not a single person injured.
Where did the shrapnel fall from all those missiles if they were shot down? None of it landed on some poor sod’s head as the missiles flew over densely populated areas – very lucky.
Slowish moving trails of light is what I have seen from the reports, a few that landed in the background towards the horizon. Someone has already mentioned that they looked like flares to light up the scene. It seems to me like the type used on a battlefield or at sea.
Lastly, aren’t we supposed to be in fear of the hypersonic missiles that fly through the air at Mach 5 to Mach 10 which is between 3800 and 7700 miles per hour? In effect, unstoppable by any means.
Yet, Iran’s newest solid fuel missile Fattah-1, although not technically a hypersonic missile, dives towards its target at hypersonic speeds of 3800mph while having the capability to adjust course and evade missile defence systems. Based on results so far, not a great advert for it. Where did they buy it from, Alibaba or ebay?
Or perhaps, the whole event was another piece of crafted theatrics to scare the masses and to set the stage for the next installment of scripted illusion warfare?
Or perhaps the lack of Anglo-Zio-Nazi Capitalist press reports on damage is proof that 80% of high precision Iranian missiles pierced Israel’s Tissue-paper Dome and did unmentionable damage to Israel’s military infrastructure?
Well, as with the Russian missile attacks in the Ukraine, the regime trots out the usual 120% success record!
If there were zero casualties they must at very least have been deliberately going for unpopulated areas and/or using low yield weaponry.
Judging by the only photographic evidence I’ve seen so far I would say both these things are possible.
And yeah, those slow-moving streams of lights are flares, usually used to illuminate the ground for advancing infantry. Don’t know why so many would be deployed during an airborne attack with no ground support. They provide a nice show for the cameras though
Iran claimed they hit 90% of their targets and yet no injuries? Either Israel is lying about casualties or Iran was aiming for empty parking lots.
An Israeli muppet I talked to pretended to believe that the missiles were fired from Iran and did no damage as they were intercepted by the almighty Iron Dome, but also managed to kill one Palestinian !
I need to retrain my habitual British politeness and start laughing at these lying clowns in their face.
I’ll believe anything if there’s good evidence for it. That’s all I’m interested in is getting to the truth. Not interested in joining anyone’s club or giving bullshit a free pass because I like who’s saying it.
The only photographs coming out of Israel so far that I have see show negligible damage on strategically unimportant targets.
I’m talking a few holes in the ground, couple of cars that look a bit banged up, one or two small houses that look trashed, an alleged cafe that looks like it’s had minor damage maybe from a low yield blast.
How do we know there was more than this? Who is saying so? How do they know? Do they have evidence we can see?
If there’s good evidence I will believe it.
Iran’s aim was to show the “Iron Dome” is useless, not to start a war at this point.
I think firing 180 missiles at another country would probably be regarded as likely to start a war, unless some type of prior arrangement existed, which would certainly be strange and strongly imply some type of performative aspect to it all.
If not performative surely firing 180 missiles at Israel but intentionally doing no damage to their ability to retaliate is completely crazy. It would be like seeking out a grizzly bear and shooting it once in the butt with a BB gun. All you will achieve is a very angry bear still very much able to hurt you.
This just to show that Iron Dome doesn’t work? Show whom? Presumably Israel already knows that (if indeed it’s true). Presumably Iran also already knows it. So for whim was this “show” intended?
Couldn’t it end up being a rather expensive bit of theater?
So, what is achieved by a purposeful act of war that intentionally does not impede your enemy’s ability to strike back?
“ I’ll believe anything if there’s good evidence for it. That’s all I’m interested in is getting to the truth.. If their is good evidence I will believe it “
Er No !
Either you are deceiving yourself or other people because you have been presented with overwhelming evidence of the conflict in the Ukraine
No contradiction for him. Non-Jews are not human; it says so in Kabbalah.They have even persuaded many Westerners to refer to themselves as Gentiles.
Sirens were used to alert the people to go, underground.
“An undeclared global class war was initiated in 2020, whose aim is the controlled demolition of liberal democracy and the institution of global technocracy—a novel, biodigital form of totalitarianism that threatens to lead to the irreversible enslavement of humanity. World War III looks nothing like its two predecessors and is waged by the transnational deep state against populations using the novel methods of Omniwar, i.e. war waged in every domain, but clandestinely, so that the public does not recognise it as such. The opening campaign of World War III involved the largest psychological warfare operation in history, which I call the “‘Covid-19’ operation.” This was intended to demoralise, disorientate, and debilitate the public, thus weakening its resistance to the intended transition to technocracy. Historically, psychological warfare has served as the prelude to physical war, raising the alarm concerning what is to come.
With the World Health Organization’s declaration of the “Covid-19 pandemic” on March 11, 2020, an undeclared global class war was initi-ated, aimed at the controlled demolition of liberal democracy and the institution of global technocracy, a novel, biodigital form of totalitari-anism. The largest psychological warfare operation in history was waged transnationally against unwitting populations to cripple their resistance to the intended transition to technocracy. That psychological operation, which I refer to as the “’Covid-19” operation, is the subject of the two volumes of this book. This volume explores various techniques for attacking the mind and psychologically breaking down the victim—“men-ticide,” to borrow the term coined by Joost Meerloo in The Rape of the Mind. The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing (1956). Volume 2 deals with the “brainwashing” part of Meerloo’s title, i.e. means of reprogramming the mind with desired thoughts, attitudes, and behaviours.
If successfully implemented, technocracy will be worse than anything imaginable by Hitler or Stalin, because it amounts to the biodigital enslavement of humanity through biometric technologies, the “Internet of Bodies,” constant surveillance and monitoring, central bank digital currencies, and a Chinese-style social credit system (Davis, 2022; Broudy &Kyrie, 2021; Wood, 2022). Moreover, if allowed to happen, such a control system could prove irreversible. Technocracy has been incubated for decades in China with the support of the Rockefellers and various technology transfers, and, with proof of concept having been established, the aim is now to roll it out in the West (Corbett, 2014, 2019a; Wood, 2018; Davis, 2022).”
Extracts from ““Covid-19,” Psychological Operations, and the War for Technocracy Volume 1” by David A. Hughes: https://dhughes.substack.com/p/covid-19-psychological-operations
Marburg scare this morning. Bird flu summit concludes today.
Keeping their options open.
Technocracy is already happening in BRICS countries. Run away while you can.
My guess is that the US is running out of money, so the only option is to try to the plunder other countries via proxies. The US can’t do it directly because that would shatter the myth that the US is a force for good abroad. Netanyahu and Zelenskiy are both stooges under orders. Quite possibly Starmer is too – the lack of meaningful change in British foreign policy since Labour came to office suggests that.
This is very superficial and naive.
1) Nations don’t “run out of money” they just pretend to sometimes. They create money by borrowing in addition to income from taxation, they always have as much they need, they just make up stories about being broke to bamboozle the little people
2) what about globalism? You know the worldwide plan backed by almost the entire political and banking class to destroy human freedom, sink the US and move their interests to Beijing?
Yeah, that globalism. Think we should probably factor that in to all these destabilizing machinations?
Nah. Nothing to see. Move on
Lynne – West has a long proven bad history of Empire Building.
You are probably right we have some qualities we are not aware of and that BRICS is the real red commie-tech globalisation.
In the end it becomes a spiritual question for the individual.
Are you on the + side or the – side.
That’s my guess too. Including your estimate that Kurt Sturmer is an agent of New Liebore’s Tony B.Liar who, as non-Voting Director in House of Rothschild, is himself an agent of Anglo-Zionazi Capitalism.
When the Biden regime was forced to leave Afghanistan with its tail between its legs, I wrote in OffG:
“Uncle $cam has maxed out his War Loan credit cards”.
The military and financial defeat of NATZO in Ukraine has confirmed that not only the $cammer but the entire EU$A have maxed out their credit. From now on the EU$A is like a gambler on a losing streak, betting every last $ on some desperate high-gain low-probability win.
Jogo no pano. Vermelho 27. Um Rio do Champagne. https://youtu.be/X0GNvIsq8uM
A dangerous WW III is a full scale nuclear one; not a few conventional wars or a few nukes.
80% of the world population want to stay alive; the balance has a death wish themselves – too old, too depressed, to crazy or to indoctrinated except for the 1% who want only themselves to survive.
nukes aren’t real
Let’s see the downvoters show us that “nukes” are real.
Search for it yourself, there is plenty of evidence, photos don’t lie, but the eyes do.
The evidence is that the damage done and survivor accounts do not indicate a nuclear or “atomic” blast.
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/index.html
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/How-done.html
The dead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki don’t talk, conveniently.
As radiation is not visible to the naked eye, it doesn’t exist according to these two geniuses. They made conceptual mistakes too, one of them declaring the Sun as a symbol of Satanism while it is the opposite.
Wow, just listen to this muppet talking, in the clip from the US war propaganda machine… that shit-eating tone of voice straight out of show biz is so evidently, self-consciously performing like a bad actor, just as his ancestors constantly lied to the “Native Americans” to convince them to give up the armed resistance.
You only need to watch the first few seconds of the US Army/OSS video clip to know that this is 100% propaganda and NUKES ARE A SCAM in which all the “superpowers” have been knowingly participating for WORLDWIDE TERROR, “FOREVER”.
Nothing is forever though…
Especially minds like yours.
LOL you are opening the barn doors fully for outsiders of Off-G to label this site a conspiracy nuts gathering space with this stuff.
Questioning everything is good but drawing illogical conclusions based on some old visuals is poor, specially on such a planetary vital topic. Who gains from nukes being fake and how? Not the WEF or the CCP. Getting rid of fear is good but swinging to the other extreme can well be diabolical inspired.
LOL are you for real?
He’s NickM using yet another fake name
Read my username…. seems that off_g does not even know how to check commenters’ IP addresses?! L 😆 L!
Reading list:
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/index.html
https://mpalmer.heresy.is/webnotes/HR/How-done.html
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CL4BT2CN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1BNUCMI29IMNL&keywords=oppenheimer%27s+deadly+toys&qid=1697448453&s=books&sprefix=oppenheimer%27s+deadly+toys%2Caps%2C312&sr=1-1
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/death-object-akio-nakatani/1126300515
Israel cannot attack a neighboring state (e.g., Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen) and then claim self-defense if that state strikes back.
Exploding pagers last week, killing another leader we have never heard off then the
New Moon solar eclipse ritual which they love to fear amp the religious folk.
I was not aware War theses days with evil dictator terrorists states like Iran who hate our way of life and our trying to takeaway our freedoms that informing the world press they was going to shoot bombs was the norm.
IDF is the most humane military force in the world and Benjamin “Bibi” Nsatan”yahu” speech to the Iranian people was kind and loving and had amazing views and positive comments and hezbollah does have bombs stored in peoples kitchens, hallways, churches, shops, roads, schools and hospitals and tunnels under the whole of middle east and isreal does have right to protected it self and liberated the people from evil dictator terrorists states like anyone who disagrees with them.
Duh…..have you actually spent any time in Israel? Or is this an attempt to claim this week’s prize for extreme irony?
Like in Ukraine I find the motives strange and hard to pin down. Aside from huge profits for the arms industries in east and west and more huge profits to be made in rebuilding contracts, what strategic gains are to be had by any of the parties in any of the post-covid conflicts? And why do they always seem to be inconclusive?
Zionism aims to bring about “Armageddon” to fulfil its “prophecy’ of the “chosen ones” Asknatzi Neanderthals being kings of the whole world. Israel’s enemies are simply trying to wear it down before they move in to finish the job which will happen as soon as the US military support becomes inadequate. Iran and Hizbollah and the rest of Israel’s enemies vastly outnumber the zionists and can afford many casualties which they view as martyrs, hence the deaths of Hizbollah leaders does not matter- they will be replaced by even more determined and careful characters.
People do forget that Turkey was a christen nation at one time in the not so distant past, depending on how far your past is able to go.
< Today, Israeli troops are reportedly crossing into Lebanon to fight on the ground. >
Correction:
Today Israeli troops have retreated from Lebanon carrying their dead and wounded.
“Fighting on the ground” is not as easy as bombing civilians from 10,000 feet in U$ F** planes carrying U$ bunker buster bombs.
Can you post a link to that info?
It’s a “limited operation”, you see. Limited by hordes of heavily armed Arabs and possibly Persians and beyond. Regardless, so long as they have the US on a leash, they will surely try to capture a small strip of Lebanon along the borders as a “security buffer zone”, and then slowly start settling and expanding that ‘buffer zone”.
< The year-old Israeli-Hamas war >
Correction:
The year-old Israeli genocide of gentiles in Gaza.
There is a war AND a genocide. I don’t see any need for a ‘correction’ which just looks like trying to be clever.
< There is a war AND a genocide. >
I like your AND. You should send it to OffG editorial board. Their editorial does not mention Israel’s genocide of Gentiles in the Holy Land. Lapse of memory or lapse of editorial courage?
“Be good, sweet maid, and let who will be clever” — Coventry Patmore.
This is very dishonest of you. We have covered the Gaza genocide many times, most recently early last month, which you can read here.
Given your proven history of trolling these attempts at defamation and misrepresentation don’t look good.
Are you motivated to discredit OffG?
How many other anon persons like “0…” who turn up to disparage us and then disappear are actually you or friends of yours?
This is not a war because Hamas is not an army but a bunch of desperate resistance fighters and their weapons are peashooters compared to Israel/ USA tech. This is an invasion and slow motion genocide modelled on the Euro empires’ invasion of the “New World”.
To say this is a war is to participate in the false narrative that aims to legitimise Israel’s existence.
edited by admin to correct typo
*genocide, not “gencoude”…
The continued refusal or inability(over years) to replace the dysfunctional comments software invites disparaging comments and places real questions about the true purpose and true ownership of this website.
It also seems that the comments editor scans and saves all text that is typed in before the user hits the “Post Comment” button… some of us have been using computers online longer than you, dear “Sophie”…
Nick – (since it’s obviously you again) – if you were familiar with the WordPress system you would know that all comments appear in the admin panel chronologically, with the user name and email address the commenter typed in. When you commented as NickM and then immediately after as “0…” (but forgot to change your email), the two comments appeared right next to each other in the admin panel.
When you suggested I provide proof of you commenting under multiple names I screen capped that panel so I could upload it if you so desired.
So, no need for the “comment editor” (whatever you imagine that is) to do anything nefarious – it’s just a simple old WP function that anyone with a blog has at their disposal.
I strongly suggest you limit yourself to one user name in future or at least take more care to check you are using the right email address before posting. It will save you a lot of embarrassment and me a lot of time 🙂
PS – I fixed your typo for you.
Oh sweet Sophie – what a deft and lethal blade you wield!
That she must: & muster strength,
with considerable patience, revealing ‘O’bjective purpose &
Defining the intent, on finely balanced Scales, of Mens Rea,
Translated into GDPR. *Fortunately for us* -:- The blind lady with the Sword is not required to be the Most Tech.Savvy Saviour of Grace, in knowing the difference between
Right & Wrong,
Intrinsically…
>>>LOL<<< – 😂
Most certainly Male,
“Condescendingly Pretentious? Moi … ? ”
Instinct & intuition can be mistaken, but , one could be forgiven for suggesting Sophie may plausibly have her birthday, around now… looking the Stars ✨
Throwing a Focussed eye everywhere: evaluation…
& Eternal patience, (never in men), knowing their ‘Rea’ :-
be that in Real, Ruble, Rupee, Renminbi Rand or US dollars, much to weigh up at present.
*BRICS & MORTERS*
Back2Reality:FYI: All week long I witnessed ‘Convoi Exceptionnel’S’ with modern tanks & launchers & personnel carriers & SUB-Contract Truck/Tractors pulling them, on top of the Military Truck transport capability, towards Germany, from various regions of Denmark. More discreet & Not as large as the Convoi Parade in Bulgaria, the nights B4 the SMO… but, all the same, the Financial foxes feral faecal matter has collided with said rotating oscillator and a fox got the trots & diarrhoea, doing the foxtrot , not Tang’O’, as instructed. And you know when you’ve been Tangoed after tangling with Sophie’s Sword… with a reason-able Edge.
So, duck … deft Sophie is swinging. ✌cutting the crap.
Focused as ever, with purposeful Grace & worthy respect.
Happy Birthday Sophie (were intuition correct, nothing too specific, yes or no ?) One thing I feel sure of, Sophie, your judgement is better than Mette Frederiksen’s…
Heads up on Danger within ♏ Scorpions.
Horror scope expanded.
Greetings Steve,
Balkydj
Open mouth and insert foot also works in his or her case.
I don’t get what your point is. There has been a lot of articles on here about Gaza genocide. This one is about the conflict being widened and is just a fact piece for us to draw our own conclusions from. It’s like you’re trying to start a firefight about a nonexistent problem. What have you got against OffG? I think they do a fantastic job
I believe nick is talking about the deaths of Christians, gentiles, not Muslims. Many here are fine with Muslims being slaughtered, but Christians not so much….
Hey NickM weren’t you recently outed by your own stupidity as a troll posting under multiple identities?
And now you’re here trying to get a pile on going?
Very suss mate
I too find it suss. Why is he not banned?
Ask OffG for proof of Admin’s claims:
1, that “NickM posts under multiple identities”
2, that “NickM upvotes his own posts”
Nothing to do with me, mate. Yours truly, NickM.
Nick – I have a screencap of 2 adjacent comments in the admin panel, posted minutes apart.
One is your usual user name “NickM” with your usual email address “ng*******”.
The second is the user name “0…” again with your usual email address “ng*******”. The post is signed “0”
This is proof that you post under at least one other name.
I am happy to publish this cap here if you want me to. But be warned it will expose the email address you post with.
Do you want me to post this screencap?
Could “Martin Usher” and “Brianborou” be two more identities he goes by? I have long noticed they tend to back each other up, though I guess that might not mean anything, don’t want to sound paranoid.
Interesting how the true believers in “ they are all in it together” , use very similar techniques to the MSM ie smearing, innuendo etc Yet, apparently they detest the MSM. A paradox to say the least !
There is a small gaggle of folks here desperate for an echo chamber they can find a safe space in. Learning is hard for them.
I currently seem to have a few fans following me around downvoting all my comments, probably because I tend to talk about their cherished dogma of the magic Jw and his angry Dad in the sky often. It’s nice to have followers, even bad faith ones 😆
Stop letting your wife ___ ,use your computer, she left the email addy so it could be exposed.
Thanks for trying not to go paranoid. My reasons for “backing up” Martin Usher is that he is knowledgable on AI of which I have a smattering and, like me, tends to pour cold water on OffG’s more paranoid fears of a looming Digital Dystopia.
I “back up” Brianberou because I believe he is a Socialist, a dying breed in the West, and we two ought to show solidarity.
“From each according to his means to each according to his needs” — New Testament, Acts of the Apostles.
As opposed to your entirely rational fears of impending WW3, because that’s what’s headlining on all mainstream platforms atm? 🙄
What do we achieve by getting caught up in the certainty of this threat? What does it achieve? Tell me?
(Remember, silly, paranoid offg was 100% right about Covid, when everyone else was losing themselves in an ecstasy of panic.)
A2
Not only the MSM.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
Yes, MoA really swallowed the Covid kool aid too.
And Strategic- culture plus many more who didn’t believe in the Scamdemic or “ we are all in it together “
Gosh I guess that means they must be ‘right’, and we must be ‘wrong’. A2
https://strategic-culture.su/
🤣🤣🤣 Fuck me NickM, your bluff has been called mate. What you gonna say now? 🤣🤣🤣
He’s always soft pushing antisemitic tropes on here too, while he apparently lives in Israel. Suss.
Dear Sophie, Thanks for amplifying your reply but I repeat; this single incident is no evidence of “trolling“.
I have explained that the double post and incomplete typo “O” arose while I was touring with a new Laptop, a dodgy (hair-trigger fast) touch screen, on a foreign wifi.
If you do not believe the word of a reader of several years standing, what more can I do?.
Yours truly, NickM
You’re just making a fool of yourself now Nick. It was not a “double post”, it was an intentional attempt to post as a different identity. You entered the user name “0…” and signed your comment with the same name. You simply forgot to change your email which made your deception apparent to admins.
These pitiful attempts at further deception just dig a deeper hole for your credibility.
It’s done. Move on. Take more care with your multiple identities in future.
If you try to post any more on this subject I WILL post the screencap. You’ve been warned.
You have been busted and did yourself up like a kipper, yet you still have the gall to try and weasel your way out of it.
How many other usernames have you used or are currently using?
No shame whatsoever, no humility, no contrition. You have more fucking front that Sainsbury’s.
Your blag failed….no-one is buying it.
@NickM This is a great example of you voting up your own post.
Your original post initially got 26 downvotes and just a few upvotes.
Phylum Chordata disagrees with you and gets 24 upvotes but only 7 downvotes.
This is consistent, meaning most people reading the thread were sympathetic to PC’s view not yours,
But then suddenly your comment started getting a lot of upvotes, until it magically had 26, to match the downvotes.
But PC wasn’t getting any corresponding downvotes.
Which looks unnatural and fake.
It also doesn’t jive with the rest of the page where you are consistently getting very few upvotes.
Only explanation that makes sense is you are trotting back to this comment over and over and upvoting it to massage your ego or to try to make it look like your opinions are more popular than they are.
Ipso facto.
‘ Yesterday, Iran responded by firing ” hypersonic missiles “..who you ask’
Well, if you ask the Zionists, they will tell you 120% were destroyed. Meanwhile, numerous mobile phones recorded the actual strikes.
” But to what end ?…”
Look at the Greek, Roman empires etc.
Have you seen images portraying the extent of damage? Can you post any links to same on here?
Why downvotes for simply asking for information?
Because he and number of other posters, believe it’s all make believe. The central pillar of this belief system is they are all into together despite the long history of : wars, coups, assassinations and genocide in the Middle East.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/operation-true-promise-2-iran-strikes
https://x.com/evanhill/status/1841237261880324159/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1841237261880324159¤tTweetUser=evanhill
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/10/iran-attacked-israel-only-after-the-us-had-rejected-its-moderate-stance.html#more
Thanks, there is one really good link in there (the first), though I don’t think you can have read it before posting.
Well, at least we know by experience that US only want it the hardest way.
Israel’s next step( re Iran) is crucial and will likely be a good indicator of what’s ahead.
ie how it chooses respond to Iran’s latest missile attack.
Anything too major (like taking out Ayatollahs) and it’ll be all out war…
Israel is finally accomplishing what it has wanted for decades; dupe the US into going to war against Iran on its behalf to reconfigure the region. The west’s war on Islam is ratcheting up. There are no sane heads in the oval office to see what is going on and put a halt to it. Israel’s strategy is to incite and foment war on multiple fronts (October 7th 2023 was an Israeli inside to provide the rationale for the genocide Israel has unleashed on the Palestinians) so the US and UK are forced to come to its “aid”.
Where are the sane people, where are the people who want peace? Inaction is cation and this inaction/action could lead to global catastrophe.
I think this is quite an old fashioned and rather naive view. Do we think the hugely powerful entities that imposed the spurious pandemic simultaneously on the entire globe are now defunct? Do we think they have surrendered that power? Surely they still control world events and have done for many years, the only difference being that covid made them visible for the first time? I am sure the actors in the conflicts are being given their scripts from above just as they were during covid, but less obviously.
Time will tell. If the US goes to war against Iran at the behest of Israel, it won’t make much difference will it?
I could be wrong but I don’t think that the United States gets duped into anything, much less a war. It seems to me that the USofA does the duping.
The masses are indeed duped by the media to believe their narratives and versions of “reality” but you are correct the shot callers know what they are doing.
“Terrorism warning lights are blinking red again.”…..
I suppose the rest that sentence would have been something like…
Terrorism warning lights are blinking red again, now that the
A) lockdowns and travel restrictions have eased
B) As terrorists return to work with their vaccines passes in line with strong no jab no job policies
C) As gatherings of large numbers of people are permitted to return
????
Is this hell??? Did we all die already?
“Yesterday, Iran responded by firing “hypersonic” missiles at Tel Aviv that either breached the Iron Dome missile defense system or did NOT breach it depending on who you ask.|
OR you could try using your eyes.
Don’t ask OffG to use their eyes. Offg KNOWS that it’s all sham fighting, that “They’re all in it together”.
“Ask the Inspector” — Scott Ritter will tell you the truth:
It’s been know for decades — ever since the Scud missiles of Soddem Hussein — that Iron Dome (aka Patriot) is outdated and only good against WW2 Bazooka missiles.
When has OG ever said the fighting isn’t real? I wish they bloody would question it, not necessarily in this situation, but in Ukraine which looks totally bogus the longer it goes on. All I have seen OffG do is talk about the fact all sides are following the same agenda or there is globalist motives in starting wars.
NEVER seen them go anywhere near saying the fighting is bogus or token. Can you show me where they say that?
A lot of that light show is spotter flares used to illuminate the area, often by both sides. There are flashes in the distance that could be impacts, but impossible to assess them in such a video as that.
The only way to get a clear idea of what happened is to view footage of the aftermath where the extent of damage can be clearly seen.
I am not finding much of that so far. What I have seen represents quite minor amounts of damage. I’d like to post the images so people can discuss them.
Not much to say, really. You spend a few generations telling a bunch of people how special they are and turn a blind eye to their excesses and you’re going to get a whole lot of trouble. Although we tend to focus on watershed moments like the Hamas attack of October 7th last year in reality we’re dealing with a process, a slow burn, a systematic imposition of facts on the ground that systematically edges a people out to make room for a more deserving people, a people who regard themselves as ‘chosen’. Its a process not unlike what we did to Native Americans, using a variety of stratagems to marginalize them, driving them to places where we’d hope they’d disappear. (…and if they pushed back then they’re obviously ‘hostiles’ that need dealing with by the military)
Moving forward we’re not in a good place. The Israelis are in far too deep to embrace reform even if it was favored by a significant percentage of their population. The US, like a lot of western governments, is entirely in their pocket, unable to tell them ‘no’ and subsidizing them to the hilt both directly and indirectly. At the same time thanks to their utter savegery in Gaza they seem to have done the seemingly impossible by uniting the entire neighborhood against them. They need to reform but they can’t do it so expect continuing escalation — or rather, expect them to use those nuclear weapons that they deny having (…and we so indulgently chose to believe them, naively handing over the tools to deliver them).
The only spark of hope is that after the election next month it should be possible to say “No!” to them in no uncertain terms without invoking the immediate, terrible, wrath of AIPAC. We also need to urgently change the leadership of our State Department to be a lot less Zionist-friendly. This doesn’t mean abandoning Israel — it is, for better or worse, a ‘fact on the ground’ — but we’ve got to get them to see that Zionism as currently practiced is a threat not just to Israel but to Jewish people all over the world. Remember — all the really bad things happened to religious groups throughout history because faith was confused with fealty.
(Needless to say I’ll probably be condemned as ‘anti-Semitic’ or if I happened to be of that faith and culture, a ‘self-hating Jew’.)
Please note that “Martin Usher” is a state-sponsored entity who is placed here to soft sell state-approved narratives.
This is still true even when he appears to line up with “alt” thinking.
All that means is that the state approves this particular narrative, or at least finds it useful
We need to use Martin, and shills like him, as barometers and indicators of where the state-sponsored narratives are going, so we can try to get ahead and understand the bigger picture.
I dont play this game.
I urge people to recognize that even States have a right to state their opinion, and if this opinion contains facts and due considerations, this opinion is as valid as any other opinion.
Whether Martin Usher is state sponsored or a State Representative or being smeared as a “State seller” of State propaganda, is of no value for the public but a job only for the Redacteur of OffG to consider.
Nobody has nuclear weapons but you are free to continue with the 80 year old fear porn… Yes, i am sure the bombs did not get used againe after the fake nuclear bombing of Japan (actually dirty bombs with reactor waste, mustard gas and napalm) because the military self-styled “superpowers” are run by sane people! (sarcasm overload)
Could you provide some proof for those claims, I’ve got time to wait.
No, for you and many like you, actually nukes are really real despite any evidence in the links already posted several times on this thread, or any other evidence that may ever come up, because it a religious matter to you…. and this is the last response you’ll get from me – you can read my username for more info…
It never ceases to amaze me that instead of addressing the points you raise some posters on this site prefer to drop into the MSM strategy of smear, innuendos and character assassination. Which begs the question what is the difference between them and the MSM in their approach?
It is entirely possible that we get an extremely cold winter with lots of snow and ice in Southern England (they are used to it Up North) hard as nails…but its different now
Sometime the wind doesn’t blow for 3 months (like in 1963 – almost artic conditions..We built an igloo at Christmas with frozen blocks of water for ice)
and we had a coalshed full of coal – it was my job to get the fire going
All we have got now is a load of windmills, which are totally useless if the wind doesn’t blow.
Stock up on tin food and blankets. If you ain’t got a chimney do not think about it. Carbon monoxide and smoke will kill you before you knew what CO2 was.
I can second that. My then girl-fiend blocked the ventilation as it was very cold. Fortunately owing to my medical experience I recognised the symptoms before I passed out. If I had not we would have died. Faces turn bright red and you get very, very sleepy.
Conventional Jotul Swedish wood burner approx 7K.
The End Game is likely the End of the Road:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1fgc3xz/the_case_for_an_imminent_ele/
Only for the stupid ones who believe, thinks, anticipate, likely. Those who know, knows most of it is pure and utter bs.