UK Accepts Big Pharma Money to Trial Drugs on the Unemployed
Kit Knightly
Three days ago the British government announced a new scheme to inject obese people with weight loss drugs to try and tackle “worklessness”.
Writing in the Telegraph – where else would a “Labour” minister write? – Health Secretary Wes Streeting proudly announced the plans, and praised the new wave of anti-obesity medications:
The long-term benefits of these drugs could be monumental in our approach to tackling obesity. For many people, these weight-loss jabs will be life-changing, help them get back to work, and ease the demands on our NHS.
The specific drug in question is “Mounjaro”, produced by pharma giant Lilly to compete with the Novo Nordisk’s Ozempic/ Wegovy. And the first phase of the scheme is a five-year trial on 3000 obese people in the Manchester area, described in another Telegraph article:
Up to 3,000 obese patients – a mixture of those in and out of work, and on sickness leave – will be recruited for a five-year study that will explore whether the medication boosts productivity and could bring more people back to the workplace.
It was also announced that Lilly – the biggest of Big Pharma vultures – will be “investing” £280 million in the scheme.
Streeting describes it as:
a collaboration that includes exploring new ways of delivering health and care services to people living with obesity, and a five-year real-world study of a cutting-edge obesity treatment.”
“Collaboration” is doing some work in that sentence.
If you order a pizza from Domino’s, that’s not a “collaboration”. You don’t “collaborate” on getting a pizza – You pay for a pizza, and you get a damn pizza or you get your money back.
…and £280 million buys a lot of pizza.
The quid pro quo here is pretty easy to see.
So, I repeat the headline:
The British government is being paid by Big Pharma to trial new drugs on the unemployed.
We’re reaching levels of Great Reset dystopia not previously thought possible, and it opens up important questions for the future.
What happens if the trial is said to be a success? (And, you know, I have a funny feeling it will be.)
What happens if the new wonder drug is labelled a cure for “worklessness”?
We’ve already seen “no jab, no job” applied to vaccines during the “pandemic”. How long before the overweight and unemployed are told “no jab, no unemployment benefits”?
How long before the healthcare is rationed or conditional in other ways based on other lifestyle choices?
Streeting hints as much in his column…
The NHS can’t be expected to always pick up the tab for unhealthy lifestyles.
Seems like smokers, meat eaters, the overweight – or anyone else deemed “unhealthy” – might be in trouble soon enough.
Considering this follows hot on the heels of plans to job train those committed to mental health institutions, the “painful” budget and cutting the winter fuel allowance for pensioners – all while still spending billions to fund war over seas – you have to wonder if any of those people who were so sure Labour were the “lesser of two evils” back in July are starting to feel a little foolish.
There is no lesser. They’re all just evil.
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This is grim news.
I would like to know what people think about the changes to the law relating to people who have mental health problmes who commit crimes. In the past not taking the medication which stopped them doing bad things meant that they could not be found guilty of the harm they caused ( they could ofcourse be sanctioned). I find the judgments you read about these people are awful. It seems so unfair to say they are guilty of murder etc. I wonder if the judges really feel comfortable saying it?
Brilliant point.
Related topic: What about the way we are increasingly having to pay for everything that is nice ( Cinque Terrae ? spelling?) Venice, …lots of talk of vaiourts other places in Europe that used to be free for everyone
”Writing in the Telegraph – where else would a “Labour” minister write? ” Love it:!! very funny Kit. Dacid Cameron ,Therese Coffey , Tom Watson and Wes Streeting should be first in the queue for the fat drugs…although as we know it probably isn’t anything to do with countering being fat
this is quite funny and informative
“How long before the overweight and unemployed are told “no jab, no unemployment benefits”?How long before the healthcare is rationed or conditional in other ways based on other lifestyle choices?”
Yes, beyond addicts and alcoholics this could expand to include certain lifestyle risk factors.
Do you drive race cars? Jump out of planes? Mountain climbing, scuba diving. Who knows how far it cd go to cx ppl’s piddly govt checks.
There is an argument that genuine genetic tragedies and unforseable accidents should be free treatment by the NHS. Anything with a predictably higher risk should be paid by an insurance policy which you buy, so yes – all your listed examples would not be free. Why should we socialise other peoples leisure costs?
We already pay for NHS treatment and sports persons are usually fitter and so get fewer illnesses so a few stitches or a plaster Paris is not out of order .most are back to work on Monday. It’s called national insurance for a reason
I had not, until now been aware of the link between being fat and not wanting to work/ lazy
Amazing!
I have always known there is a medicine for everything because I read a bit about snakeoil.
During covid this became normal for the new generation.
30 years ago being tested for certain jobs rules became normalized.
I recall getting a job and then right at the last minute The HR department saying that random drug tests would be carried out and within the specification of the contract I would sign and I would sign a paperwork every day to say I was fit to perform that role.
What I did not get was how the others who where taking daily medication which had side effects clearly advertised on the packets where able to do the same job.
Medical = Government = Church.
explain this how is it children where vac more under Donald fighting the deep state than any other priesthood President
trust the plan.
The overwhelming majority of the population supports the CDC vaccination schedule; and they also support school mandates. What do you think a president can and should do to reverse that situation?
Oh, I reckon New Labour’s far more evil than the Tories. By the time horrendous side-effects from these wonder drugs are plain as day the media will be completely sewn up.
? I honestly don’t see the difference apart from the fact that Keith Startmer has got a horrible stangled voice
Lesser of 2 evils so far is looking real.
And now I see this scheme hitting the NZ news as well. And the only criticisms from the “experts”? Well, theres just not enough supply to go around (*hint* get in quick, fatty).
Game Changer!
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/sir-chris-hoy-circumstances-around-100119508.html
Sir Chris Hoy: Circumstances around the pandemic can enhance Olympics
Wed, 14 Jul 2021
Sir Chris Hoy feels the circumstances around the pandemic can enhance the Olympics impact rather than diminish it. . . . The excitement generated by Euro 2020 showed the unifying potential of sport.
“Sport plays such an important role in society,” said Hoy, who won six Olympic gold medals. “You can say it’s trivial and it’s just guys kicking a football or people riding around in circles on a track. If you break it down, everything is trivial unless you are saving lives.
“But I think it has a really, really important role. You can see the difference it has, how engaged the whole of Europe was to the football.
“I think the world will, hopefully, engage with the Olympic Games and have something to focus on, have athletes to cheer on, and to look forward to better times, and remind ourselves of pre-Covid times as well.
“The vaccine has made it possible and I really believe it will lift spirits.
“People are desperate for something to engage with and get back to normality. As restrictions start to ease, this will hopefully be another thing that gets people feeling a bit more positive.”
—
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-13978969/Olympic-cycling-legend-Sir-Chris-Hoy-reveals-cancer-terminal-says-feels-lucky.html
Sir Chris Hoy has revealed that he has been diagnosed with terminal cancer
The 48-year-old Olympic icon believes that he has two to four years left to live
Hoy won six Olympic gold medals for Great Britain between 2004 and 2012
19 October 2024
Caption: Hoy pictured in July this year in Paris, where he attended the Olympics opening ceremony
Chris Hoy (April 24, 2021):
It’s time to roll up our sleeves and protect the world against COVID-19. Join me in supporting @crowdfunderuk and @unicef_uk’s VaccinAid campaign, because we’ll only ever be safe when we’re all safe. Go on #GiveTheWorldAShot VaccinAid.org
https://www.instagram.com/p/COCmYihnTms/
all part of Blair’s great AI project! Wes Streeting is such a weasel! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13979353/NHS-set-millions-smartwatches-wearable-tech-track-health.html
all smart Mobile phone does this via vital reading.
but they don’t measure heart rate etc unless you have a wearable such as a synched watch, but anyway the idea that the NHS/Blair’s weasels will have access to this information which may in fact become obligatory in exchange for treatment/benefits is extremely worrying
Guinea Pigs.
They’d be heartbroken if the population was optimally fit, healthy, and happy. It would put the spanner in their workings.
Excellent Kit.
Feed a problem and find a lucrative solution. Been watching this for years, nothing new.
My thanks to OffG for sanity as always.
The USA government is allowed to test on thoses who are incarcerated and quite amazing really how the religious states and religious folks actually backed when it started out thought it was okey.
It is now normalized and you can even get a reduced sentence for trailing out medication.
Unfortunately under the MH act and children in care the U>K government has regularly allowed them to have new wonderful medication drugs to get them to calm down or shut up.
They’ve paid out millions in compensations for the abuse and rules they broke doing this however the issue it how to get a solicitors to fight your case. it is religious that that allowed this as the children in care are considered children of sin. according the books they read, children are born with a sin nature and are inheritors of original sin. The Bible also says that children are capable of making moral choices and require instruction and correction!
Within 5 minutes of Bs19 they was blaming fat people as more likely to get Covid and Boris was seen running around London trying to lose weight (if you believe the photos of him running)
The fat thing fizzled out . there now blaming the Poor disabled, immigrants for everything going wrong it is back to blame the bottom.
same as last time.
Your work health coach with recommended healthy medical drugs to help you back into society and do your part.
I am sure there will be sanctions for those who disagree.
Its not a drug trial as such as the drug itself is past that stage. What it does is interesting; these drugs were originally developed to counter diabetes but turned out to not just counter obesity but also seems to be useful in the treatment of addiction.
The UK has got a large number of “economically Inactive” workers, its reckoned about 11 million, which is proving to be a significant drag on the economy. In addition, large parts of the country are looking seriously run down. This deterioration of national life is a direct result of decades of government policy which has not only exacerbated the gulf between sectors of society — if you’re well off, you’re well off, if you’re not you’re screwed — but left the country with very few options to try to remedy the situation. This trial sounds a bit like an act of desperation but at least its one idea.
A drug to treat addiction? The psychopathology of capital reaches new depths.
A very bad idea which shows the very unhealthy relationship between this government and Big Pharma, for whom adverse events are simply to be covered up.
There is, I think, another angle to this latest ploy. (I’m assuming here that Britain has the same unemployment woes as the US.) Namely, in a society with diminishing prospects for employment, it becomes necessary to find something other than the Economy to blame it on. So they’re attempting to blame it on obesity.
BTW, whatever happened to baby Woke? Isn’t it supposed to be a hate crime to discriminate against the largely heavy among us?
Its not quite the same in the UK as the US because individual states in the US are like countries in the EU — what might be true in Arkansas, for example, won’t be so in California. The Economy as a whole is doing well in the US but that doesn’t mean that individuals are doing well (if debt levels are anything to go by, many are not).
We were sold a bum deal in the 80s in both the US and UK, the pitch being that if we gave corporate America (and by extension well off people) everything they wanted then their prosperity would ‘trickle down’ to ordinary people. This notion has been thoroughly debunked but the damage was done and now the gap between rich and poor is at historic levels with minimal chances for social mobility. The UK has suffered a similar fate but with the shrinking of the welfare state the quality of life has deteriorated significantly for many leaving large numbers of people outside the system and with no ability to enter it.
Socialise the costs.
Privatise the profits.
Destroy the underclass.
$atanic $uiturd$.
Sure, blame “obesity”.
You’d havta get the weight down to make them employable. Job discrimination of fat ppl is right up there w job discrim of felons! They’ll hire some troon w purple hair before hiring a fat person.
I know whereof I speak.
Obesity is not a problem in Gaza:
https://www.winterwatch.net/2024/10/complete-inversion-the-heroic-death-in-combat-of-yahya-sinwar/
Food is one of the few pleasures you have when you’re poor, and it is one of the greatest pleasures, it seems these drugs work by suppressing this desire, how awful to remove one of life’s great pleasures, especially if this is done under duress, what so now the unemployed are fair game for drug experimentation? Disgusting and a very dystopic precedent! I understand why some individuals might seek out this drug to help them kick start their weight loss but it isn’t a long term solution for anyone as I’m assuming you can’t take it indefinitely and would revert to your old ways once stopped if nothing else changes in your environment.
Anyone who wants to volunteer for the cull can
(a) take every medical miracle drug or jab for every little problem
(b) pig out on approved GMO and processed food and drink that comewith free dyes/bleach, flavours, odours, solvents/gelling agents, emulsifier, stabilisers, anti-caking agents, binders, foaming/anti-foaming agents, pH adjusting agents, preservatives, undeclared processing aids..).
If you want healthier people shut down Mc Donads that’s will be a good start
There would be McRiots, Mc Protests and Mc Chaos.
And what about poor old Ronald?
He’d be out of a job.
Poor old Ozempic would be out of a job, too.
Ha – spot on!
Coincidentally it was a labour government when makkie d’s started in the uk in 1974
So, we must do something to control people’s behavior, for their own good and everyone else’s? What’s the difference between shutting down McDonalds vs providing drugs to lose weight? What’s the difference between shutting down McDonalds vs requiring people to take a fake vaccine so they won’t “get sick”? Who is going to make these decisions?
There is no profit in a health society. Keep em sick and jab / pill them until death.
Wouldn’t you have to shut down all “fast food”?
The question is when will the penny drop for society as a whole?
This drug is not so much about obesity as it is about benefit payments (welfare).
Does anyone think morbidly obese Augustin Carstens, the BIS chief or tubby boy David Lammy will be encouraged to take it?
Added to the cut in the winter fuel allowance, medically assisted dying for the elderly, chronically ill and mentally ill, it is just another cull mechanism. Any success in aiding weight loss will either be fabricated or if it does work at least short term, the built-in ‘side effects’ will ensure it ends up shortening the lifespan of those who take it, as planned.
Very simply these ideas are just an updated version of eugenics. Removing first those considered by the controllers the most ‘useless eaters’ in society and gradually working their way along the food chain.
In the case of the obese unemployed, the literal ‘useless eater’ meme perhaps can even be sold to the general public to gain acceptance of it.
When I first saw a picture of Carstens my immediate thought was – “Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are”!
The Cost of Living payment which is actually CUL as initials when paid and was £66.60 over a 6 payment time.
coincidences I am sure.
They want anyone dead, fat, healthy, depressed or otherwise. It doesn’t matter as long as there are fewer of us.
Apart from the €€€€, there is this thing that such weight loss drugs are known to increase depression/ suicide. For ozempic this has not been researched closely, but similar drugs have been pulled from the market because it did increase risk for suicide.
Weight loss drugs probably reduce your appetite for everything, is my conclusion and reason why I would not recommend it for anyone.
Try excercise, less stress, eating at regular intervals max 2-3 a day, no cookies, cola, stay away from alcohol, etc etc
More on the suicide risk here: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/eu-authorities-investigate-if-ozempic-similar-drugs-increase-suicide-risk#Close-monitoring-for-those-at-risk
Agree with all apart from perhaps the regular interval 2-3 meals a day . Intermittent fasting seems to me to be a bit more than just a fad since I started dabbling this year. Generally eat after 3pm with a 36/48 hr fast every couple of weeks or so. Not only keeps me trim but a real clarity of mind. I’m not religious about it either , it’s just about trying to form better habits – as a booze salesman all my career , I refuse to avoid the demon drink however !
Got it. Fasting, meaning no eat 36/48 hrs every second week. Booze, meaning to calm the nerves when your stomach cries “where are the usual whoppers?”.
It sounds like torture to me but worth a try.
OK, Mr Knightly, so when you’re SoS for Health, you’re going to let grossly obese people just bankrupt the NHS, are you?
I’m in no way supporting the trialling of drugs on the unemployed obese, but if you want to trash that possibility, you have to propose an alternative.
What is it, Mr Knightly??
I can see your point but I think Kit is pointing out that this could be the thin end of a very dangerous wedge.
Think about it Rhys…
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so it fat chubby cheker fault .
If you think taking drugs is the cure to obesity your so far from the solution there’s not much point telling you it
Eating healthier foods and exercising might be a start and no crazy side effects what an insane idea I know
Proposing an alternative to a shit idea that’s unnecessary anyway?
Perhaps the bugs digest better on muonjaro
In October 2019 the Australian senate (upper house) ok’d legislation that
empowered the government to extend its Income Management scheme on to
all Australians who are dependent on government (tax-payer) payments to
survive… (0n all, that is, ‘cept for politicians)…
The Income Management scheme had been around for years, but had only
been imposed on Australia’s ‘remote communities’ (euphemism for Aboriginal
communities that lived outside cities and towns). The communities were
used as experiments by government bureaucrats to iron out any kinks. The
pretext used to gain white Australians support were claims those ‘remote
communities’ were spending their taxpayer funded payments on drugs, booze,
gambling (plus the men folk were beating their wives, sexually abusing the kids)…
A year or so before the ‘pandemic’ the Australian government hoovered up every
ones medical records… The collection of medical records of the welfare-
dependent and an imposed income management scheme point to likely AI
assisted greater bureaucratic interference of the lives of age pensioners, those
on sickness, and those on the dole. The bureaucrats will control what foods you
can buy to eat, because, remember, “The Government Cares About Your Health !”
Little by little the bio-security state is implemented…
Selling medical data to big drug businesses brings immediate kickbacks, deposited to a bank of your choice. Before conjob-19, UK sold all its NHS data to Google.
Worst criminals aren’t in prisons , they’re in offices and uniforms , protected by the laws that they made , to protect them from us .
The Drag Queens of public health.
“Look at me, look at me!”
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/public-health-is-to-actual-health
$$$$$$$ICK PRICK$$$$$$$
“The glorious and tragic story of J. Weissmuller.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coB89QU3idY
Higher resolution outside “EUSSR” only via proxy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA6_mCRPXg
“The enemy within” … who could this be referring to?
The hostile takeover has already been completed for
around 100 years. And not only in America, but also
within its “elites”. Only one thing is once again crystal
clear: it can only be Adolf and his sinister companions.
https://www.mediaite.com/analysis/what-exactly-did-trump-say-about-adam-schiff-and-the-enemy-within/
https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/jared-kushner-a-corrupt-jewish-kleptocrat
Last century health researchers tried novelties on themselves first. That will stay my gold standard for any pharma stuff I will ever use.
“There is no lesser. They’re all just evil.” You always cut to the quick, Kit. As John Prine put it — Exactly odo quasi modo. And so it is here across the great puddle. Two candidates–Republican, Democrat. Both guilty of war crimes when in office. There is no lesser war criminal–obliterating men, women, children from the face of the earth is obliteration, permanent. But the voting public never has gotten it–and never will–too busy sanctimoniously professing their moral superiority.
Before succumbing to the lobbyist’s sales patter and the lure of a pack of peanuts, should have announced new job creation schemes.
Just think, in 5yrs, we will have another flavour of evil. Who then will reap the rewards or criticisms of this sinister experiment? And how will success be measured? How many former unemployed post-fat Mancurians does it take to dish out a burger?
Governmental regulatory agencies have long been working the protection racket on behalf of numerous “protected” industries, companies, and individuals – including protection taxation. Now it seems they’re not only manufacturing captive markets (in the form of mandated pharmaceuticals), but they’re now apparently directly involved in the promotion aspect of product marketing.
This message is brought to you by the U.K. LLC. and the House of Windsor (nee Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) Crime Family.
Something tells me that money isn’t really coming from Big Pharma. One way or another, it comes from the lower 80-90%, either now or later. The NHS thing is the same thing they pulled during the early years of the Scamdemic (because it is STILL a Scamdemic), with the full hospitals, full of beds in the hallways, etc., and the blame put on those who refused to get the fake vaccine, to the point of wanting to round us up, put us in camps. and keep us out of stores and restaurants (hey, that was just a few years ago, not last century). That’s not going to end, it can only get worse. I remember a discussion on the mandatory use of seatbelts in cars years ago and the proponent insisted that those who didn’t wear seatbelts cost everyone else because of the greater severity of injuries and impact on the hospitals. Soon, they’ll limit how many cheeseburgers you can eat per month. Like Arnold said, “Screw your freedoms!”
-Slovakia calls for covid investigation.
-The second largest city in Western Australia, voted to support a BAN on mRNA products and called on the Australian government to implement a ban.
Every day’s actions by the PTBs is worse than the previous. Actions like this used to only be in concentration camps or in the US on institutionalized indigenous, black, POC or orphans (Fauci’s aids experiments on orphans in the 80’s). But all of those happened behind closed doors, only to be disclosed after 30+ years of information LOCKDOWN. Now, they’re right in our faces, broadcasting same before they start, daring us to stop them. Kind of like the serial murderer that taunts authorities, wanting to be caught. As a commenter said yesterday, it’s time.
It would be cheaper for the government to send a copy of the film Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead to each participant, plus a food subsidy that can be used only for fresh fruit and vegies for them to go on a 6-month juice fast, and it would be healthier for the participants too.
But, then, BigPharma would miss out on profits from selling the drug to the government and on selling treatments for the sequela from taking the drug.
Cheaper? That’s Communism! No way.
On a more serious note, the Land of the Fee and Home of the Knave, and the Free World (TM) are anxious to permanently shut up alternative medicine in general, and that trouble causer Dr. Joseph Mercola in particular.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/billions-worldwide-face-micronutrient-deficiencies-study-finds/5869840
https://www.globalresearch.ca/kids-pills-long-term-impacts-medicating-children/5869524
https://www.globalresearch.ca/ketogenic-diet-cardiovascular-health-risk/5869043
https://www.globalresearch.ca/cases-diabetes-vitamin-b6-deficiency/5868678
As long as they pay me I am all in. Why not?
Its better than fighting or running around in Gaza yes? Its better than living on the streets. Its better than being a heroine addicts. Its better than being a hard core criminal.
You dont like fat people, you are discriminating fat people. At least Big Pharma dont do that! They pay me man. Period!!
That was sarcasm , hopefully ?
I have a gut feeling this isn’t going to end well.
There’s probably something you cd take for that gut feeling.
Allen and Carl sum it up here:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2024/10/the-bamboozled/
A £280 subsidy for the junk food industry.
As if Mc Poison and Killa Cola need a subsidy.
Maybe, like Big pHarmer, they’re feeling the pinch of too many healthy lifestyle influencers.
There’s that ubiquitous ‘getting people back to work’, again…
Being Fat is framed a Medicalised Condition in need of Political Intervention…
Fat people’s health becomes a concern for politicians, only
if it affects ‘getting them back to work’…
Bio-politics in action – “Your health is our concern.”
First they came for the cigarette smokers
then they tried to knock-off the grannies
then they came for fat people
Who’s Next ?
Advice: Avoid medical doctors for they’re sure to discover
you’ve some Condition that requires urgent political intervention !!
(The Australian government has already hoovered up everyone’s
medical records – gotten ready to intervene in (weed-out) the lives
of the medically labelled ill / infirm)…
The Great Ozempic Scam And Safe Ways To Lose weight
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-great-ozempic-scam-and-safer
As there are few jobs, jobs are declining, getting fat people
“healthy” to “get them back to work” sounds sinister…
Intervention into your savings, for “exceptions” the employer and insurance does not cover, comes first.
The key word is “said”.
It doesn’t have to be a success, they can just advertise it as such. Or better still why even have trials?
Simply hire some crisis actors to play the part of the ‘miracle cure’ trial recipients. I can see the stories now:
“I was once obese, had no energy, no job, no girlfriend and sat on the sofa watching telly all day. Then after I started taking Mounjaro I lost 5 stones in six months, I am full of energy, found my dream job, got a new girlfriend who is a supermodel, drive a Ferrari and earn a six figure salary. I have never looked so good or felt so good!!
Come join me and thousands of others and it won’t cost you a penny. It’s free on the NHS.
Want to know how?
Call 0800 123 999″.
The summary of every piece of research from The Science uses the word “may”.
May. Thought to. Believed that. Yes, full weasel words always. All one need do is switch on the boob tube for a few minutes, longer than that is not required. I also love “it’s not known if” as well as “experts think” and many, many other similar phrases. So, it’s thought that these drugs help you, there ARE side effects of course, but never mind that long and scary list of those we babbled at the end of this ad, just ask your doctor about our product today!
‘Scientists Say’😊
Wonderful Ariel…Another Blinder.
I still have another 178 up on YouTube. They don’t seem to have got around to me, or maybe it’s just because I’m so hidden away that it doesn’t matter, or even that they can say, look, we allow x, y, and zee, even though you’ve never heard of them.
“exploring new ways of delivering health and care services to people living with obesity”.
Are a better diet and some exercise old ways? (BTW “Better diet” isn’t code for “eat less”, that phrasing is very deliberate)
“if any of those people who were so sure Labour were the “lesser of two evils” back in July are starting to feel a little foolish.”
Needs restating – any notion that there were lots of such people was the psyop. Labour got about 18% of those eligible to vote.
As long as it’s voluntary, it’s fine.
People will quickly know not to participate after they hear the horror stories.
If it goes the Divoc 91 way it’ll be too late for many.
If it was meant to be voluntary, they would not need to target unemployed people.
Also, 20% of Germans said in a survey that they experienced bad side effects. Most Germans took it anyways. A man told me that his wife was miserable after the shot because she had a good immune system.
CJ Hopkins and others wrote on the pressure Germans faced. There were many reports of serious and extensive harm, including EU stats. Your comment seems to play all this down.