178

Let’s talk about…MSM Coverage of Israeli War Crimes

Kit Knightly

Two weeks ago, it was widely reported across all the Western legacy media that Israel had fire-bombed a hospital leaving patients to burn to death in their beds.

A few days later, we were told by the same Western legacy media that Israeli strikes inside Lebanon had destroyed a 2000-year-old village.

Today, CNN’s front page hosts an IDF soldier describing Israel’s practice of using civilians as human shields in Gaza, while the Guardian details an Israeli strike on school-turned-bomb shelter in Gaza.

Now, it’s not at all unusual that Israel should be committing war crimes, they’ve been doing so unchecked for decades.

But what is less usual is seeing these war crimes appearing on front pages and  in headlines in the controlled media.

We’ve all been doing this long to have dispelled any idea the MSM cares about truth.

They don’t care about truth. Not at all. In fact these days their internal structures barely permit them to recognize truth as a concept.

Nothing – nothing –  is so true the media have to report it, no crimes are so brutal they can’t be ignored.

Case in point, in Odessa in 2014 civilians protesting the NATO-backed coup in Ukraine were chased inside the Trade Union building by pro-coup neo-Nazis.

The building was barricaded and set on fire. People climbing out of the windows to escape the flames were shot at.

Forty people died, shot or burned to death. The neo-Nazis responsible celebrated by showing pictures of beetles being set alight (their disparaging term for ethnic Russians was “Colorado beetles” in reference to the orange and black ribbon of St George they wore).

How did the legacy media respond to this murder?

Well, they just lied.

They claimed the protesters set the fire by accident when they were throwing Molotov cocktails off the roof. This was a complete fabrication, contradicted by CCTV evidence, blaming the victims and covering for the fascists,  but so what? They media didn’t care, they just kept repeating the lie and are still doing so today

Truth is irrelevant, narrative is all. That’s how the media works.

They’ve done the same in the past  for Israel , the US, Saudi Arabia, NATO…whoever…countless times over the years.

And yet  here we are, in  2024, with these Israeli crimes all over the controlled news.

They could lie if they wanted, as they usually do.

But they aren’t.

It prompts the eternal question: “Why this? Why now?”

Thanks for reading...

You can help us keep doing what we do. Every little helps and is hugely appreciated.

For other ways to donate, including direct-transfer bank details click HERE.

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

178 Comments
newest
oldest most voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 2:12 PM

The MSM’s sudden change of course looks like very bad news for the herd of pro-Israeli sheeple at Westminster, especially hard-core Zionists like Stalin. His voters must be particularly appalled. How much longer can the ruling elite stand for war and genocide? And why doesn’t Farage seize the moral high ground (and mass popularity) by condemning Israeli and western warmongers? Hmmm.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 12:59 PM

Why now? Perhaps to further fuel and enrage the millions of us who oppose genocide and war, to provoke leftists and Muslims against pro-Israel governments, to grow the great crisis, confusion and global war needed for rule by the NWO, AKA Zion.

DJK
DJK
Nov 21, 2024 8:23 AM

They don’t have to lie. Most of us (probably me included) have been so weaponized against the Moslem misogynists that we no longer care if they are wiped off the face of the earth. Genocide against a culture that makes its women cover themselves from head to toe, cannot go outside without an escort, cannot drive, and must walk behind their man. Genocide against such a misogynistic culture (did I forget to mention that Mohammed, their founder had wives aged 7, 9, 11, and 14 years old?) So they have so incensed western society that those trying to incite foreign populations to violence predominately import moslems to accomplish their goals. No, I’ve been as programmed as the rest, and that’s why Israel doesn’t even have to hide their war crimes.

edgar
edgar
Nov 20, 2024 4:47 PM

You’re making far too much of it.

Because they have to, is why.They have to say SOMETHING.

Then back to the usual. The slaughters committed ‘targeting Hamas’; ‘targeting Hezbollah strongholds’; yada yada yada.

green triangle
green triangle
Nov 19, 2024 7:17 PM

The Orange Man will be held responsible for supplying the hardware, a personally signed instruction manual, money and little black skull caps to facilitate genocide. Then the U.S. taxpayers will be given responsibility for the compensation costs.
But what’s in it for Blackrock?
Israel…Who gets the silicon-chip factory? Who gets the undersea drilling rights? Where will tech companies relocate, into whose currency zone? Will Netanyahu kiss important coloured, (not orange), gay buttocks?
Bankers have mercenaries, Religeons have Zealots, Nation States have both. Imagine a dog meme here.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:07 PM
Reply to  green triangle

Your claim presupposes that Zionists are enlisting or playing Trump. And much evidence appears to support this gloomy perspective. However, the opposite scenario might be true. Could Trump have won or pursue MAGA by alienating the Zionists?

colinthe iltrate
colinthe iltrate
Nov 7, 2024 11:49 PM

isreal has served its purpose so now the elite are going to cast it aside of course they will let them kill the palstions first

mik
mik
Nov 7, 2024 5:33 PM

Kit: It prompts the eternal question: “Why this? Why now?”

Because they don’t want to show you a bigger pile of more than half a million corpses in Ukraine. Actually, that wouldn’t be interesting, they are mostly soldiers (subhumans by “definition”, on top white-niggaz).

Cynicism aside, desensitization of people plays well into dehumanization, trans-humanization.

Phil O'Sophy
Phil O'Sophy
Nov 6, 2024 11:36 AM

As long as we keep using collective terms for people there will always be hatred and mistrust. Hating Jews and loving Palestinians, or hating Palestinians and loving Jews are damaging positions. There are good and bad people in all societies and political camps, and the more we simply align our love or hatred or beliefs to a particular society or camp, the more the bad element will tend to prosper. Yes, I’m an ideologist – but isn’t the ideal state what we should all be striving for? The Beatles said “all you need is love”. Then perhaps even the most malicious factions of a society might be brought to question the consequences of their actions and perform acts of kindness. But I’m probably very naive.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:10 PM
Reply to  Phil O'Sophy

Long before the wonderful but decadent Beatles, Christ taught us about love. He was right, not naïve.

Phil O'Sophy
Phil O'Sophy
Nov 26, 2024 12:29 PM
Reply to  Nick

Very true, but it was the quote’s whole message I was after, not just to bring attention to the word love. 🙂

Jams O'Donnell
Jams O'Donnell
Nov 24, 2024 12:05 PM
Reply to  Phil O'Sophy

Your spell checker is twisting your words – ‘idealist’, not ‘ideologist’ – although you could be an ideologist as well,

Phil O'Sophy
Phil O'Sophy
Nov 26, 2024 12:24 PM
Reply to  Jams O'Donnell

You’re right – I meant idealist. Thanks for pointing that out.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 2, 2024 1:21 AM

The media trained me at an early age to hate PLO terrorism. I supported Israel for 40+ years. No more. Israel itself has shown me the truth. I would now like to see Israel gone. The world would be so much better off without it.

The old Polish saying is true and sums it up perfectly. “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.” Can anyone dispute this after recent events?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Nov 2, 2024 10:51 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

I have despised Israel for most of my life, I am nearly 72. My grandpa was a soldier in Gaza during WW11 and even then he said the zionists were terrorists and he never marched on ANZAC after the Australian/British betrayal of the Palestinians post WW11, It was the only time he ever talked about the war. He loved the Palestinians till he died in 1971

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:16 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Many want ‘Israel gone’. But millions of innocent Israelis would have to die to realise this hateful desire. So let’s not hide genocidal Zionist leaders and fanatics behind national labels, nor repeat the mistake of conflating state and nation.

John Manning
John Manning
Nov 2, 2024 12:27 AM

It is so you will stop looking at Ukraine.

Nastran
Nastran
Oct 28, 2024 5:35 AM

Set your vicious hunting dogs on prohibited native animals.
When they bring you lots of banned meat, publicly punish naughty dogs, even execute them if need to show your good character.
But keep the meat.

David Ho
David Ho
Oct 28, 2024 3:40 AM

Isreal is the US deep state’s proxy regional platform, and the Israeli society is the support structure supplying fighters for the IDF that are the expendable foot soldiers and cannon fodder to do the blood on the ground fighting for the Asset Management class.

The Isreal Lobby in the US, and elsewhere, is the at-home tool of the deep state, the mechanism to compromise, bribe and cudgel political figures, and direct media elements, to ensure continual robust support for the Deep State’s foreign policy objectives of plunder and domination in the long term, and enrichment of the Weapons Manufacturers owner’s bottom line in the short term.

Just like Isreal is presented in Western Media as the separate (from the US), and uncontrollable entity desperately defending herself from violent terrorist attacks coming from all directions, but being a tad heavy-handed in a way that we should have a sympathy and understanding for considering Oct 7, the Isreal Lobby in the US is presented as a seperate 3rd party having a strong, and seemingly, a controlling influence in the direction of US foreign policy. This fostered belief that the Isreal Lobby is a 3rd party element, is a sleight of hand, a deliberate misdirection and is a mind control objective built in to make political discourse a divisive obscuration.

Both Isreal and the Isreal Lobby are manufactured by the deep state, one to attack and destroy sovereign nations to advance the plunder of resources, and the other, the Lobby, to attack and undermine the democratic processes within America and other countries that might think about straying from the path dictated by the deep state that is tasked with supplying the muscle for the Asset Management class to steal and control the world’s resources.

The Isreal Lobby is a crafted tool to hide where the bribe money is really coming from.

The MSM, largely owned by the Asset Management entities that control the deep state, ensures the public believes narratives that disguise the true nature of this global plunder.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:23 PM
Reply to  David Ho

Are those ‘asset managers’ Zionist, perchance? If so, I suggest the US deep state is their tool, and not the originating evil.

Jams O'Donnell
Jams O'Donnell
Nov 24, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  Nick

I imagine some of them are. There are also ‘Christian Zionists’ and, I’m sure, people with no loyalty at all except to themselves.

Gordon Hastie
Gordon Hastie
Oct 27, 2024 10:11 AM

They’re trying to instil the habit of seeing and accepting genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and full bore fascism. After all, Israel isn’t going to change anytime soon, and neither will our deplorable government. And many in the West couldn’t care less anyway.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 2, 2024 1:33 AM
Reply to  Gordon Hastie

People who defend the genocide don’t understand that what is being done to Gaza could happen to us. In fact, I’d say the probability is rising fast. “It could never happen here” is a phrase best dumped in the bin. Things aren’t normal in the West now. The 20th Century was like a parallel universe compared to today.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 26, 2024 6:34 PM

Music. The road to peace… (worked for King Saul)

Shiviti Adonai (from Sh’ma Yisrael)

suzaloop
suzaloop
Oct 26, 2024 5:49 PM

What I’ve notice about the Christian Conservative MIC media is…
the lesser mentioning of things over there but also selling the fact it cant be that bad
as normal lot is mentioning it.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 26, 2024 4:11 PM

Israel strikes Iran on October 26th, 2:00 AM (Israeli time). Essentially one year between Feasts (old-style calendar).

Shemini Atzeret (8th [day of] Assembly) infamously occurred last year on October 7th; this year on October 24th. The Feast of Tabernacles concluded this year on Oct. 23th (Sukkot, Oct 17 – Oct 23, 2024), followed by Shemini Atzeret. Both October 7th, 2023, and October 26th, 2024 being Saturdays.

So Israel strikes Iran in 2024 a day (or so) following the end of this year’s 8th Day Assembly (Shemini Atzeret). With the 25th as a respectful hiatus day in-between. Perhaps subtly making the connection to Hamas as Iranian proxy.

Justice (or Vengeance). The dish best served BOTH cold AND at the most apt time?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 26, 2024 4:07 PM

Would seem to be a simple puzzle:

– The MSM says Israel committed war crimes
– The MSM always lies

Ergo, there were no Israeli war crimes. QED

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Oct 27, 2024 1:31 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

MSM does not always lie. It is as if there is a masonic practice at play – just as things are revealed in plain sight, they are obliged to tell the truth from time-to-time albeit briefly. For example, before the pandemic, the media in unison went on about how Covid19 was hyped, and it was no more serious than influenza. I can’t remember how long that lasted. Probably only a week, 2 weeks at the most. Then the barrage went on in the pro Covid narrative interminably for several years up to this day, so most people forgot that there was a complete about turn in the MSM standpoint. It struck me also that there was a psychological tactic at play of softening up the public for the kill. Maybe Tavistock and secret services set it up that way.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:24 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Now do the ICC and its judgement of Israeli leaders as war criminals.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 26, 2024 3:51 PM

Brave Zio-willie Lee Kern (who blocked me from his entertaining twitter feed) vents:

https://leekern.substack.com/p/darkness

The anniversary of October 7th is here. I was going to write some words but I know I don’t need to. You were there. You have been there this year. You know. It’s between your heart beats and between your red and white blood cells. It’s in you now. Deeper than words. Deeper than thoughts. It’s in you. And you will have to live with it being in you. It is not something you can extricate. It is you now.

“Deeper than thoughts” indeed. Indeed, no thought is involved at all!

Boom Bap
Boom Bap
Oct 27, 2024 5:29 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I really wish Kern would go join the idf.

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Oct 27, 2024 1:37 PM
Reply to  Boom Bap

Exposed high up in the Lebanese mountains on rocky terrain.

Jams O'Donnell
Jams O'Donnell
Nov 24, 2024 12:10 PM
Reply to  Boom Bap

Probably been there, done that.

entitlement
entitlement
Oct 27, 2024 6:08 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Dangerous comments being deleted. the irony

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Oct 27, 2024 1:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Was the Hannibal Directive lodged in some deep, deep human tissue along with the tissue of lies?

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Oct 26, 2024 2:38 PM

The Israelis are losing the optics/PR war with their genocide of the Palestinians and their wanton aggression against the Lebanese, Syrians and Iran. The legacy media which is controlled by global Ashkenazim is rationalizing that an invader/settler land grabbing “nation” has the right to “defend” itself against indigenous people throwing rocks sticks and stones but overlooks the facts when the Israelis get thumped by Hezbollah militias. This is the state of media today. Eric Arthur Blair aka George Orwell said, “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” Long live the revolution!

Sid
Sid
Oct 26, 2024 8:43 PM

Hmmm, ok cop. Sounds like textbook antisemitism, so not so sure really any friend of Palestinians as such views aren’t welcome.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Nov 2, 2024 10:53 AM
Reply to  Sid

Arabs are semites, most jews are just Europeans

Maggie
Maggie
Nov 4, 2024 4:20 PM

Eastern Europeans – Satanyahoo is Polish.

Boom Bap
Boom Bap
Oct 27, 2024 5:37 AM

Aside from the dodgy antisemitic troupe and use of the counter-revolutionary Orwell – counter revolutionary because he a) writes an anti Soviet tract when the Red Army are slaughtering Nazis, which then gets made into an animation by an arm of the CIA, b) because he joined the POUM, who made many dangerous blunders in the Spanish Civil War that were undermining of the war against fascism, and c) ended up grassing up communists – some truth in the fact that our media are downplaying how effective Hezbullah is.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 26, 2024 2:09 PM

“EU President Likens Free Speech To Infectious Disease.”
“EU President Ursula von der Leyen just joined the ranks of former Senator John Kerry and other globalist ghouls in declaring war on free speech by perversely proclaiming that the EU citizenry needs to be “vaccinated against disinformation.”

Who elected this Bitch?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eu-president-likens-free-speech-infectious-disease

Catapulting the propaganda.

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/global-vaccination-badnews/

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:35 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Ursula Fond-of-Lying was selected rather than elected, I believe. This fact absolves voters and suggests the value of democratic voting.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 26, 2024 1:53 PM

Odesa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odesa

Odessa, the transliteration of the name from Russian, was the traditional English spelling of the city’s name favoured before Ukraine’s independence in 1991 (similarly to the spelling of Kyiv versus Kiev).

Odesa became the internationally standardized Latin-alphabet transliteration of the Ukrainian name according to the Ukrainian National romanization system, which was adopted for official use by Ukraine’s cabinet in 2010, approved by the UN Group of Experts on Geographical Names in 2012, and adopted by the BGN/PCGN in 2019.[23][24][25][26] This spelling appears in Encyclopædia Britannica[27] and in dictionaries as the spelling for the Ukrainian city.[28][29][30][31] As noted by the Christian Science Monitor, many in the English-language media outlets historically spelled the city Odessa, even after changing the spelling of Kiev to Kyiv, but since the beginning of Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine more outlets[4][5] and style guides[32][33][34] have been shifting away from Russian transliterations.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 27, 2024 10:19 AM

This seems to contradict the supposed “nazi” hatred of all things Russian!

comment image

antonym
antonym
Oct 26, 2024 11:57 AM

Not going to happen at Off Guard: lets-talk-about-msm-coverage-of-Arab-war-crimes

Same as the old Guard.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 26, 2024 4:17 PM
Reply to  antonym

Arab war crimes wouldn’t fit neatly with any ‘Elders of Zion’ / NWO secretly ruling the world narrative.
Nor with Russia’s anti-US ties with Arab nations. Hence, a no-go. A deliberate blind spot.

But in some sense it is ‘discussed’, With the regular award of double digit down-votes to anyone making a vaguely pro-Israel comment or to any suggestions of (pleas for) balance / less one-sidedness.

NickM
NickM
Oct 27, 2024 6:18 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Have a downvote on me. Genocide is not a subject for debate. It is a serious crime, even more serious than war.

“War is the most serious crime because it is the mother of all other crimes”. And a genocidal creed is the mother of war.

entitlement
entitlement
Oct 26, 2024 10:04 AM

MSM media says – it can not win with you people.
 😂 

NickM
NickM
Oct 26, 2024 5:56 AM

<Case in point, in Odessa in 2014 civilians protesting the NATO-backed coup in Ukraine were chased inside the Trade Union building by pro-coup neo-Nazis.
The building was barricaded and set on fire. People climbing out of the windows to escape the flames were shot at.
Forty people died, shot or burned to death. The neo-Nazis responsible celebrated by showing pictures of beetles being set alight (their disparaging term for ethnic Russians >
I don’t remember OffG commenting on this atrocity in Odessa when it happened – the first U$ funded Ukro-nazi massacre and the prelude to the Anglo-Zio-nazi genocidal attempt to set up a New Khazaria with Jewish-only Presidents in Kiev; a war that left a million dead and is now mercifully ending in failure.
Nor did OffG comment much, if at all, on the terrible cost in lives and suffering in both of these Anglo-Zio-nazi Capitalist genocidal wars: the one in land-rich Ukraine and the one in oil-rich Middle East.
So I ask OffG: “Why this? Why now?”

Sophie - Admin
Admin
Sophie - Admin
Oct 26, 2024 9:40 AM
Reply to  NickM

OffG didn’t exist when the Odessa massacre happened. We were launched in Feb 2015. We have however discussed the event many times since then.

Our primary aim at our outset was to correct the appalling lies being generated in the media about the NATO-backed coup in Ukraine and Russia’s then response. We have featured this and the US invasions of Iraq & Syria as major aspects of our output over the years, as you will find if you search our archives.

The entire basis of this comment is false and an obvious clumsy attempt at misdirection. In fact we were routinely dismissed as “Russian-backed trolls” prior to 2022, by those with as little respect for the truth as you seem to have.

PS – please cease attempting to post as “0…” – you will not succeed.

MLS
MLS
Oct 26, 2024 12:26 PM
Reply to  NickM

There was no OG when the Odessa Massacre happened and not several months after as far as I remember. As for the claim they didn’t cover the NATO coup in Ukraine, that’s just insane! OG covered Ukraine more than anything else, it’s what I used to come here to read. You’re just talking rubbish

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 26, 2024 2:19 AM

Am I allowed to complain?

No – Back in Your Box FOAD

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Oct 26, 2024 2:12 AM

I bought the air pistol in Shudehill, though trained to shoot air rifles in Langley Estate close to where my Mum was The Dry Cleaners about the same time as the Moors Murderers

It was just an airpistol, so made a wooden stock on it – such that it was almost like an air rifle

I was 14 years old, and I lined up to shoot, this Sparrow, in a tree, just outside my Mum and Dad’s Bedroom window

I could feel the excitement and the adrenaline building up in me as I lined up for my first kill as if I was a hunter and needed to kill to eat.

I shot her dead – The Sparrow…..Why did I do that? I haven’t a Kestrel, or any excuse to kill a sparrow.

I was totally disgusted with myself…hid the sparrow behind the shed and put the airpistol at the bottom of the bin, and never told anyone – not my mum anyone

It was just a Sparrow.

Now My Government is Doing Head Shots For Free…

How Many Palestinians, Isralies, Russians and Ukraian’s…

Compared to the covid jabs?

This is Mass Genocide on us Human Beings including you and me

and almost no one says a word, whilst I confess to the death of one sparrow maybe because I saw the film KES when I was 14

According to Ed Dowd Ex Blackrock covid jabbers about 50 Million deaths ahead of war casualties

Line up For Yours

Sophie - Admin
Admin
Sophie - Admin
Oct 26, 2024 4:02 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

You already posted this – word for word – a few months ago. Only the last couple of paras are different. You’re clearly copying and pasting from some source document you have. What on earth is that all about?

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Oct 26, 2024 11:49 PM
Reply to  Sophie - Admin

What on earth is that all about?

Troll army lunacy in a bid to piss people off and deter them from the site.

Vanusha
Vanusha
Oct 26, 2024 12:42 AM

This is because only a fraction of the deep state is neocon and zionist. The British elites are antisemites, they funded Hitler you know and only after ww2 when the jews threatened them to expose their collaboration with the nazis and to hunt the remaining nazis which were transferred to the US and Latin America the zionists gained power and became genocidal. So the elites tolerated them, but as illustrated by Brzezinski and Mearsheimer or shock therapy Jeffrey Sachs,or Soros-the elite of the elites is not zionist and no friend of Netanyahu. Why now? I noticed that since the second nomination of zionist Trump for president the fake alt media and the mainstream media started to talk about things that should be known since the first Trump presidency, e.g. how zionist loving Trump is and so on. And the masses seem to be shocked to learn that the populist hero Trump is in fact Netanyahu’s best friend.So I guess this is part of the elections circus.Another thing that the elites did was to frame the zionists/the jews as “the globalists” as they always do in the last several hundred of years. And when constantly showing to the world the crimes of Israel, they are preparing again large numbers of dupes which I can see on social media, who are spreading again neonazi conspiracy theories about “the jews”. Because it is not only the alt media and the mainstream media who are spreading Israel atrocities. It is all over social media. How is it possible that Israel controls information in Gaza and we are watching their live genocide for more than one year?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 27, 2024 2:05 PM
Reply to  Vanusha

Hitler was a Zionist.

Ort
Ort
Oct 25, 2024 9:17 PM

“Why this? Why now?”
___________________________________________

Consider that disclosing the horror show instead of obfuscating it perversely normalizes it. 

I know it sounds counterintuitive, but I’ve become cynical of legacy humanitarian themes, e.g. “the whole world is watching”, and the related naïve assumption that if the general (world) public only knew what was actually happening, surely the outrage and blowback would prompt “civilized” nations to swiftly take decisive action to end the carnage, Israel (or Ukraine) be damned!

That was the assumption, or presumption, that animated all of the thoughtful, agonized discussions of the Nazi regime’s genocide in parochial and high school classes– that the genocide only proceeded, substantially uninterrupted, for years because neither the German people nor the rest of the world were truly aware of the horrors being perpetrated.

It’s an inversion of the “someone would have talked” canard beloved by trutherphobes when seeking to discredit challenges to official narratives about some heinous state crime: if there was more mass-media “talk” about the harsh and brutal facts on (and under) the ground, the evildoers wouldn’t be able to get away with it.

I think it’s tragically the case that people typically retreat from exposure to the horrors described in the article, and this new twist of the media admitting the crimes and horrors may simply make people glaze over all the more rather than galvanize the populace and their political leaders into actively opposing and ending the vicious and depraved oppression. 

This is compatible with the simpleminded, pseudo-commonsensical false equivalence belief that “both sides” have been at it in the “Middle East” for centuries, oceans of blood have been mutually spilled, and obviously there’s nothing that “the world” can do about it except impotently wring its hands, and eventually just shrug. 😡

Howard
Howard
Oct 26, 2024 3:44 PM
Reply to  Ort

I think the view among the people is also that “Well, it’s all been exposed – now someone will do something about it. So we can attend to other matters. It’s no longer our concern.” As if to say exposure is itself an action taken.

Ort
Ort
Oct 26, 2024 7:25 PM
Reply to  Howard

Yes, good point! 👍

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 27, 2024 2:09 PM
Reply to  Ort

Regarding WW2, another distinct possibility is that the ‘holocaust’ we were taught in school is largely a myth. What if Hitler were simply trying to re-establish the Pale of Settlement in Eastern Europe? After all, if he had been so intent on ‘annihilating the Jewish race,’ then why did he so eagerly promote German Jews moving to Palestine before the war?

Food for thought …

esure
esure
Oct 25, 2024 7:41 PM

Visited last night and there was comments and today some are deleted.
doesn’t make your argument any stronger Off gr when your deleting comments.

Anne
Anne
Oct 25, 2024 6:29 PM

It’s you me are the only ones that can control this our destinies. Don’t let them make you feel afraid it’s all lies.Only way to defeat this onslaught is to not be afraid.

sandy
sandy
Oct 25, 2024 6:29 PM

Is the “pending” I experience at every post of more than one paragraph a form of shadow banning in the works? To a non-censorship advocating publication i do not understand the everyday “pending” business. Does WaPo and LAT lack of endorsement signal PTB wanted MrT all along? And the incredibly incompetent Harris-Biden tag team was a placeholder to guarantee return of the Orange one? Or is PTB just flailing away like the Tazmanian Devil to see how much chaos is possible?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wapo-bails-kamala-wont-make-presidential-endorsement

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Oct 25, 2024 6:27 PM

A couple of other ideas. The media no longer make an effort to cover up the atrocities, because they know hardly anyone is watching. With the vast majority being disembodied by digital conditions, the media no longer find it necessary to carry as much disinformation as they used to.

The vast majority limit their exposure to external information to texts from friends about the color of their piss or what their latest cocktail contains, and maybe to a news feed from a specialized site which discusses celebrity news, sports,….

And lots of people who still bother looking up from their MeDevices will take media evidence of genocide to mean that it’s just fake news, i’ve even seen it here in this forum.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 26, 2024 5:28 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

The colour of your piss changes drastically with certain foods or drinks. Maybe some bars can take this up.

Anne
Anne
Oct 25, 2024 6:25 PM

We all know there’s going to be perpetual wars and fear mongering that’s the way they control you by fear. There’s been experiments done before we were born howcto control us we to them are the same as lab rats?!.

sandy
sandy
Oct 25, 2024 6:08 PM

What ever they broadcast, tell the public is either what they want or is OK for readers to receive. After the war coverage of the Vietnam invasion fueled the success of the anti-war movement and eventual shutdown of the war, the PTB seem to have decided to serious limit the public from seeing the PTB’s harsh reality products.

I can tell y’all that news in the 60’s was actual journalism. How censored it actually was was a fraction of the 21st C. I remember watching 15 minutes of Cronkite’s CBS national news running through explicit details of the Watergate scandal many months before any action was happening. Also a CBS white paper on the Iran Iraq War being lubricated and milked by administration & high-ups with profit flowing in. Then Bill Moyers Secret Government uncovered the CIA coke and arms dealing corruption of the Reagan admin. That video was blacklisted out of public access for decades. Amazingly it now resides on Youtube and on Moyer’s site for anyone to see. I advise everyone watch that report. Apparently they like being in our face fascist, now, showing us they can do anything without repercussion. Decades later. Meanwhile the everyday now, is more highly manipulated than ever. Obviously why/confusion slows public response.

https://billmoyers.com/content/secret-government-constitution-crisis/

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 26, 2024 5:38 AM
Reply to  sandy

In common English, an adviser is like an aide or secretary whom a government official appoints to assist him. The adviser is not answerable to the rest of government or the public. He has no authority announce or explain policy. Of course, the Empire is exceptional.

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Oct 27, 2024 2:00 PM
Reply to  sandy

This was when journalists could be investigative and talk about secret government before the ‘conspiracy theorist’ debate-shutting down slur.

ariel
ariel
Oct 25, 2024 5:24 PM

Improved technology. The important word ‘ROTHSCHILD’ hardly ever gets mentioned. They may think it has to be now for reasons that only they understand, or think they understand.
Pike’s scheduled time for WW111? 3rd Temple and Messiach time? Bring on the dancing Nephilim?
I was in Israel for a couple of months in 1995, subsequent to which I warned people that it was definitely going to boil over at some point. I’m surprised it took nearly 30 years But it was running in slow motion all the time anyway. I saw it. At ground level normal everyday Israeli hostility and group punishment of the whole Palestinian nation.
They just pretended it wasn’t actually happening.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 26, 2024 5:42 AM
Reply to  ariel

Every Christian visiting his Holy Land has pretended studiously not to notice the treatment and genocide of his “fellow Christians” Palestinians. Blessed are those who can double-think.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 27, 2024 2:12 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Zionist ‘Christians’ think they’re the only true Christians on earth. Go figure!

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:53 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Just the adjective ‘Zionist’ reveals the mental state of such Christians: mind controlled. Leftists aren’t the only useful idiots and dupes of the globalist/Zionist cabal.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:47 PM
Reply to  mgeo

This is obviously false. Many Christian visitors to Israel have reported their disgust at the prejudice they suffered from Zionists. Isn’t your post also anti-Christian?

TomT
TomT
Oct 25, 2024 5:06 PM

History will condemn all corporate media as complicit in this genocide. Maybe they’re telling the truth to save face. Unfortunately, that’s too late.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 25, 2024 5:45 PM
Reply to  TomT

Given that history is written by the winners, I hope to god you’re right.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 26, 2024 1:44 AM
Reply to  TomT

Corporate Media is effectively State Media, a literal Ministry of Information.

Nick
Nick
Nov 22, 2024 1:55 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Given the globalist fusion of state and corporation, then ‘fascist media’ works.

antonym
antonym
Oct 25, 2024 4:20 PM

Muslims will stay a minority, victims of violent self-defenders as long a woke neo Marxists are still alive. Check with the People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran for example.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Oct 25, 2024 4:53 PM
Reply to  antonym

From what I understand, they are actually the majority in certain places

Howard
Howard
Oct 25, 2024 4:14 PM

When something becomes too obvious to completely ignore or even to sugar coat – as, e.g., video of burning patients still on their hospital beds – then The Lie be damned: The Truth must be told.

The saving grace for the MSM is, of course, that not everything is so in-your-face as the genocide in Gaza has been; so it isn’t necessary to report everything – such as the incident Mr. Knightly cites, or the thoroughly debunked Syrian chemical attack on its own people which the infamous White Helmets supposedly witnessed.

Besides which, the US/MSM is still desperately trying to hide the massive gas/oil reserves offshore of Gaza – but that’s becoming too well exposed for comfort. (They are still able to hide the even more massive reserves just offshore of Port-Au-Prince, Haiti with idiotic Trumpisms about Haitians eating American pets and with stories about gangland killings in Haiti itself.)

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Oct 27, 2024 2:17 PM
Reply to  Howard

Agreed with the Israel and Syria points, not sure about the idiocy of the gangland killings in Haiti, which is still not exactly a center parc: in reference to the Tonton Macoute legacy of Baby Doc Duvalier: “Although this organization no longer formally exists, its legacy of paramilitary violence and sheer brutality still contorts Haitian modern political and economic cultures.’ The Tonton Macoutes: The Central Nervous System of Haiti’s Reign of Terror – COHA

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Oct 25, 2024 3:08 PM

Why? So they can check whether or not the the brainwashing is still effective. I’m confident that it is everywhere but in the tiny minority who seem immune. If public opinion wavers the media will focus on a few Muslim criminals and talk about the hollow cost.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Oct 25, 2024 3:03 PM

worldwide broadcasting of live demonstration of weapons and capabilities.

free advertising!

list of atrocities without criticism or condemnation becomes a list of Achievements!

J. S.
J. S.
Oct 25, 2024 1:43 PM

It prompts the eternal question: “Why this? Why now?”

You always ask the questions I find myself asking…

But as for an answer, I really don’t know.

Have these mouthpieces of the New Establishment been instructed to cover these stories to help maintain the fiction that they are impartial, and shore up the crumbling reputation of the mainstream media? Maybe.

Or maybe highlighting Israel’s war crimes is part of the domestic agenda: it’s apt to enrage Muslims living in western countries. Perhaps the plan is to incite vast numbers of Muslims to take to the streets in protest, knowing that nationalist groups will immediately organise and go out to confront them (as described in points 2 and 9 of this recent OffG article).

I guess time will tell…

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Oct 25, 2024 1:36 PM

All this horror has been part of ‘the great noticing ‘ and it seems to be a case of the best place to hide a needle is not a haystack but a stack of needles.
Why? That’s just how they are
How? That’s just the list of accomplices.

judith
judith
Oct 25, 2024 1:26 PM

MSM may be exposing “the truth” about Israel atrocities, but they do not go far enough.

Israel is the bad guy. But who is supporting Israel behind the scenes? Who is funding israel with millions of dollars every year? What about AIPAC?

The MSM does not expose the power of the Israel lobby in the United States.

From everything I have read and heard, it seems that Israel is the 51st State.

As long as the United States is connected at the hip then the United States bears responsiblity for what is happening in Palestine and the Middle East.

No real pushback from the US Presidential Candidates and their entourages. Too busy throwing sand at each other.

Actually, the msm has been revealing the truth and the message from the powers that control them.

Couldn’t have been clearer than on Novermber 22, 1963. In broad daylight.

You just have to block out the narrative.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Oct 25, 2024 11:50 AM

macron warned israel against barbarism.

the message will probably go down like this: genocide is good. it is the barbarism that is bad!

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Oct 25, 2024 11:45 AM

antony Blinken is a military strategist?

he told israel earlier to use small bombs on Civilians in Gaza. now we can figure out how he finished the sentence:

“save the big bombs for Beirut”

Mark Millward
Mark Millward
Oct 25, 2024 10:48 AM

For the answer, look no further than the Merriam Webster dictionary definition of the term “Sublation” :

“to negate or eliminate (something, such as an element in a dialectic process) but preserve as a partial element in a synthesis”

Matt Black
Matt Black
Oct 25, 2024 9:54 AM

Its simple logical deduction, the goal is to ‘externalize the hierarchy’ and bring in a draconian masonic age, complete with new ‘law’ for the gents, simply whats happening, work backwards and look at whats possible. This is the back-story for yet another WW2 style-great-hoax where the masses will accept this new paradigm, for the greater utopia.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 25, 2024 12:35 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

Yup. The Zionists are the new ‘Nazis’ — they exist only to start WW3, in which they (and we!) are to be destroyed so that the elites can roll out their New World Order at last.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 25, 2024 9:41 AM

Because it’s not getting through?

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 25, 2024 9:01 AM

Sorry off topic:

It’s official; Australians are the most gullible and desperate gamblers in the world:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-25/health-impact-gambling-worldwide-much-worse-research-says/104516794

No wonder we grovel to the USian and UK governments.
We can’t think for ourselves.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Oct 25, 2024 10:22 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Curious how the article and study repeatedly frame gambling as a “public health issue”, emphasizing the “health impact” in the headlines. Yet it is never or barely specified in the articles what this connection between gambling and “health” is supposed to be.

Aside from gambling addiction itself, there obviously would not seem to be any direct connection between games and “health” in the sense the word is normally used (physical diseases). And the notion that gambling itself is the cause of gambling addiction as opposed to other factors and mental illnesses leading this behavior seems questionable at best.

Despise this, the Lancet goes out of their way, contorting their study in order to conflate certain behaviors with disease/“public health”. Much like we’ve seen before with other things like “climate change”

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 25, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

Exactly.
A void that must be filled,
one way or another.
And the exploiters, private and government, provide the means

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 25, 2024 8:26 AM

200+ vermin posted clips of themselves torturing or sexually abusing Palestinians. A Belgium-based NGO collected this as evidence, prompting the vermin to delete the social media accounts. As an earlier article mentioned (here?), vermin have demonstrated publicly and rioted for the release of fellow vermin rapists who were arrested.