No Room for Growth
Todd Hayen
Even if I am absolutely certain of something, I am still open to discussion with an opposing view. If nothing else, this is how I strengthen my argument. I want to know exactly what the contrary position is so I can see if there are any weaknesses in my own hypothesis.
There is always room for growth.
I do not typically go into these discussions with any intention to change someone’s mind, and usually, I do not expect the opposition to change mine, although I am open to that possibility.
With things I am not 100% aligned with, I definitely want to hear the other side, for obvious reasons. If I am not certain, the more information I get, the better I am set up to make decisions about the strength of my “side.” This just seems like common sense to me, and I am continually flabbergasted why everyone does not feel the same way. Well, a lot of people do. They are the shrews. I have not met a shrew yet that has a completely closed mind Well, I have met shrews who are a bit more close-minded about a few things, but never everything. I have met many sheeple-types who are completely closed up—to the point of hilarity.
Why is that?
Well, they would say that they are so certain about their position that anything opposing it is just nonsensical insanity. Take something like the germ vs the terrain theory. Nope, not a word allowed in. No room for anything that opposed Pasteur’s germ obsession. Or something even more controversial like the moon landing or the flat earth theory. Forget it. Anything that opposes the mainstream narrative on both of those issues is considered to be so nonsensical a person would be an utter fool to even listen to these opposing ideas.
I do have to admit that some things do indeed come up that I have a hard time giving much credence to, but I will still listen.
In fact, I become even more curious to hear the argument the weirder it might be. Usually, if the people on the “odd” side are intelligent and well-educated, I am doubly curious. But I’ll listen to anyone, even someone who has been diagnosed psychotic. I find people’s views of nature, science, and the world around them to be fascinating, no matter how “off” their ideas may seem.
But these are extreme examples. What about simpler ones, like whether a vaccine developed in 8 months could possibly be safe and effective? Even if leading doctors and scientists say otherwise. Isn’t that something that should stimulate the curiosity of regular people? Don’t people want to hear what others think, particularly people who “should know something”?
I’ve commented on this a million times, haven’t I? But it still perplexes me big time. People used to be curious about everything and equally skeptical about everything. Now everyone is a know-it-all.
That’s the problem, isn’t it? Everyone now thinks they are an expert. Or, more accurately, they think they have a corner on who out there is the expert. But they typically do not present it that way; they typically do not say, “Listen to so and so, he/she knows what he/she is talking about.” That would even be better than what they now do because then at least you could challenge their expert with your expert. No, they typically own it themselves. Even though nearly every single bit of information we claim to have has been received from somewhere other than our own experience, most people (at least the ones I am currently complaining about) claim it for themselves. “This is wrong (or right)” they exclaim, “I just know it, I don’t claim to be an expert, but it doesn’t take an expert to know what is right.”
How arrogant is that?
Of course, there is some truth to sticking to what you intuitively believe is correct. We shrews do that too. But when what you believe is something that a fact can alter, such as a “safe and effective” vaccine, intuition doesn’t cut it. If a plunging axe aimed at your skull can split your head open, it doesn’t much matter if your “intuition” tells you it won’t kill you.
I am not knocking intuition, it is very useful, and very reliable, in situations where facts are not clear (which is most situations). I am sure many of us can say (me definitely) that when the whole Covid insanity hit, we intuitively knew something was amiss. Intuition is not always just a feeling “out of the blue.” More often than not, it is based on a myriad of learned experiences, most now housed in the unconscious. Some of it, more than likely, is in the collective unconscious (information stored since the beginning of human existence.)
Coming out of the weeds a bit with this article and back to the basics about closed minds, it seems no one (or no sheeps) are willing to expand their knowledge base. That is a sad situation to be in. Needless to say, if we, as the human race, give up “opportunities for intellectual growth,” then we will eventually stagnate and perish. And before that imminent demise, we will constantly be at each other’s throats (like we are now.)
The game today is a game of ad hominem. Attack the messenger, regardless of any credence the message may have. Idiots, morons, science deniers, conspiracy theorists—all contemptible descriptions meant to diminish the person with the conflicting message in order to render them entirely useless. Usually, there are very few criteria present to do this—other than the “contrary to the narrative” message. These people don’t have to be uneducated, mentally deficient, hillbillies. They just must be carrying a conflicting viewpoint—a viewpoint that conflicts with the prevailing mainstream narrative.
So, what makes a narrative “prevailing and mainstream?” That might not be so easy to answer. The obvious reason is “who has the most authority,”—and it seems authority is measured today by who is highest up in the current government system. Or who the media favours. The highest in the government system does not always cut it (look at the current President-Elect). About half of the US population sees him as the devil incarnate. I would have to conclude that the absolute power to dictate the narrative that would be considered mainstream and prevalent would be the media. And of course, the media is controlled (owned) by the “elite”—or the “agenda.”
Who are they? Don’t get me started.
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What is this “consciousness” that seems essential
Are animals, the non-hoomin ones, that is, conscious ?
Is the universe conscious ? Ans what about The Sheeple –
are they conscious ?
Those who ask such questions know what “consciousness is –
’cause they’ve got it (Whatever It Is)… Which would make
them The Chosen ? The Elect ? The Aware ?
I dont mean to be condescending “nor put fault, on anyone
who lives in a vault. But it’s alright Ma, it’s life and life only.”
(1960s folksinger)….
I will say this “zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz” and “zzzzzzzzzzzz”
Psychology seems the main weapon. They (those too big to fail) understand the minds of billions, whom they’ve never met, better than I ever really understood those with whom I’ve lived for over fifty years. I suppose I ought to dig out Propaganda, the book by Edward Bernays, and read it this time. Recently, I read The Indoctrinated Brain by Michael Nehls. It helps the boggled mind – a little – to deal with the revelations of recent years.
Here’s a quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer which I stumbled upon whilst pondering my own observation that stupid is much more dangerous than wicked:
“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than wickedness. Evil can be protested against, exposed, and, if necessary, it can be prevented by force. Evil always harbors the germ of self-destruction by inducing at least some uneasiness in people. We are defenseless against stupidity. Nothing can be done to oppose it, neither with protests nor with violence. Reasons cannot prevail. Facts that contradict one’s prejudice simply don’t need to be believed, and when they are inescapable, they can simply be brushed aside as meaningless, isolated cases.”
At the shallow end of the swimming baths in my home town we all clung to a bar until we took the plunge and learned to swim. For some reason that’s the analogy I think of when people cling so stringently to the safety of their life-long beliefs with confirmation bias also playing its part.
Todd, the moon landings are not remotely in the same category as flat earth theory. The moon landings are blatantly and demonstrably fake and you know it.
Whereas everyone who has ever claimed to circumnavigate the globe is in on the round earth conspiracy?
The Muppet man is agreeing that the world is round.
I read that comment half an hour ago. Now it has 100 downvotes and it shows me that I voted it down as well, although I didn’t.
Todd Hayen, I used to have such enormous respect for you…what has happened to you???
You wrote this which is Brilliant “I am sure many of us can say (me definitely) that when the whole Covid insanity hit, we intuitively knew something was amiss. Intuition is not always just a feeling “out of the blue.” More often than not, it is based on a myriad of learned experiences, most now housed in the unconscious. Some of it, more than likely, is in the collective unconscious (information stored since the beginning of human existence.)”
Totally agree.
But within 3 months, I knew the covid story was not true,its no worse than the flu…I went deaf in one ear – fixed by ear drops from Asda (hydrogen peroxide and cows piss – no prescription required) I put the drops in my ear and I could hear this gurgling sound bubbling away dissolving the ear wax (worked far better than olive oil – my usual choice as a result of an ear infection from snorkelling or diving in polluted water – mainly the sea on holiday
I could now hear again in STEREO ..Then The Psyop (Worlwide) kicked in…
And all my family and friends were wandering round wearing masks, and jumping out of my way…
I told them all, face to face and on Facebook – It is just the Flu….like 9/11 no one believed me.
9 months later, I pleaded with them, using every psychological technique I could think of…
PLEASE DO NOT GET JABBED
They did, and many keeled over mid party – dancing away, and then dropped dead.
No one would believe the connection totally brainwashed sheep
..but my wife and my son believed me, and did not get jabbed…
Our 3 Grandchildren, have been such a delight this Christmas.
God Bless, and Goodnight
Tony
“I have met many sheeple-types who are completely closed up—to the point of hilarity.”
3 Canadian Comedians give their 2 cents on Constable Helen Grus an Ottawa Police Officer
https://youtu.be/R1Oui4FcgpA?si=ns0X3qP6JMFL62HK
Ha … Ha ?
Detective tried to uncover vaccine status of dead children’s parents, sources sayShaamini Yogaretnam Mar 28, 2022
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/helen-grus-suspended-ottawa-police-vaccine-status-1.6398984
Ottawa police board settles with family over invasion of privacyBy … unknown
Dec. 07, 2023
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-board-settles-with-family-over-invasion-of-privacy-1.7052010
Inner Circle – Bad Boys (Video original)
https://youtu.be/Zd68AthoNIw?si=auiE9yV1kLoUKpMt
Video about Ottawa Police Detective Helen Grus, who will testify in her own defence on May 27, 2024
https://youtu.be/ATYPwEz5mnI?si=4IvUiMVNRjaHbDSz
“Even as evidence has emerged about the Covid vaccine’s dangerous side-effects, particularly for expectant and nursing mothers and their babies, the Ottawa Police Service (OPS) are going ahead with prosecuting their own detective for investigating links between the vaccine and nine sudden infant deaths (SIDS) in the region.
On Monday, detective Helen Grus of OPS’ child abuse unit will attempt to defend herself against the July 2022 discreditable conduct charge without several key pieces of evidence, namely related autopsy reports and internal investigation particulars against her, which have been denied by retired superintendent Chris Renwick, acting tribunal trials officer.
This past April, Grus’ lawyer Bath-shéba van den Berg unsuccessfully argued at the Police Services Act tribunal for access to this evidence and to subpoena a local CBC News reporter to determine the source of an internal OPS leak that fueled reportage that van den Berg maintains precipitated formal charges against her client.
Grus’ official charge reads that she “acted in a disorderly manner prejudicial to discipline or likely to bring discredit upon the reputation of OPS (in a) self-initiated, unauthorized project” by accessing the infant death cases and attempting to determine the Covid vaccine status of a mother. At the April hearing, van den Berg disputed that this behaviour amounted to a breach of the Police Services Act.”
Detective who investigated safety of Covid shot continues to fight to clear her name
Jason Unrau
Aug. 12, 2023
https://tnc.news/2023/08/12/ottawa-detective-covid-shot/
“I was asked (in an A&W burger
store) by the people behind the counter;
what is your vaccine status before I
could get a burger. If somebody in a
burger stand can ask me my vaccine
status, why can’t an investigator – who’s
investigating infant deaths of babies
that are dying. Why can’t she ask this
same question it’s absolutely ridiculous.” Russel Silverson, former police officer
May. 31, 2024
Const. Helen Grus: ‘Investigation into criminal negligence’ needed for vaccine program
https://youtu.be/2qGX7cGXSww?si=BCj0BjAySpwbLv9b
‘Witness intimidation’: Helen Grus’s defence team files criminal complaint against senior Ottawa cop
Jan. 15, 2024
https://youtu.be/qJ0-CwrSXSM?si=D-D70cMZRURuMT_p
BREAKING HERE: Ottawa Police Wiretapped ‘Sudden Infant Deaths’ Detective Helen Grus – And Her FamilyAug. 08, 2023
https://donaldbest.ca/breaking-here-ottawa-police-wiretapped-sudden-infant-deaths-detective-helen-grus-and-her-family/
Detective Grus Case“This is a listing of news articles, independent media, and video in reverse chronological order – grouped by venue / publisher.
It will take some time for me to get this list up to date, and it may not always be current.” Donald Best
See my ‘X’ (Twitter) account for the most current information and links to the Detective Grus case” : https://twitter.com/DonaldBestCA
MEDIA NOTE
I have a collection of Grus Case court documents and transcripts that I freely share with other journalists and news organizations. For access, contact me via email: [email protected]
https://donaldbest.ca/detective-grus-case/
Det. Helen Grus – The Story w/ Donald BestThe Lavigne Show
“Join us as we delve into the compelling story of Ottawa Police Detective Helen Grus, who is currently facing a tribunal for her actions during an investigation into a cluster of 9 sudden infant deaths in the Ottawa area.”
https://rumble.com/v4xm3pt-det.-helen-grus-the-story-w-donald-best.html
Political meddling suspected in Ottawa police investigation of Constable Helen Grus
Jan. 15, 2023
https://youtu.be/7f1jI2xxxAg?si=pLFUDsbDNenlT4ci
Ottawa Police Promote Neglectful Officer Who Failed to Prevent Domestic Murder – Sgt McMullen is Prosecution Witness in Grus CaseDec. 09, 2024
https://donaldbest.ca/tag/helen-grus/
a lot of it has to do with our compulsory education system, established expressly to indoctrinate and inculcate docility and conformity, in the 19th century, as a response to the threat of an expanding, potentially uncontrollable electorate
in school children are exposed to a system where the teacher is always right, and status accrues to those pupils who can best assimilate and regurgitate the lessons the teacher disseminates
“conflicting messages” have no place in this paradigm, unless as a sign of a discipline problem that necessitates a prompt and harsh response
“I have met many sheeple-types who are completely closed up—to the point of hilarity. – Why is that?”
First 7 Years – How Humans are Brainwashed
WHY SMART PEOPLE BELIEVE STUPID THINGS
A common objection to when a “conspiracy theorist” lifts the veil:
Why Would They Do That?
M Scott Peck in his two ‘classic’ books on psychology, The Road Less Travelled and The People of the Lie wrote about the psychology of the “malignant narcissist”:
He wrote that the central defect of malignant narcissists is not the sin but the refusal to acknowledge it, and that rather than lacking a sense of morality, like the psychopath, malignant narcissists are continually engaged in sweeping the evidence of their evil under the rug of their own consciousness.
From The Matrix movie:
Morpheus: “The Matrix is a system. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”
Ending on a more positive note:
There’s Nothing (for us) To Do But Let (them & the narrative) Go
– Jim Carrey
I thought that this was a very interesting read by David Hughes: https://dhughes.substack.com/p/covid-19-psychological-operations
The curiosity comment reminded me of a recent remark a friend made. She’d listened to a lot of things I’d been saying about the last four years and finally asked me why it bothered me so much. When I said I just want to know the truth, she replied that she had no curiosity about these things. That’s the difference. If I had to pick new friends now I’d start by asking ‘What are you curious about?’ and if they said ‘nothing’’, I’d know not to waste their or my time.
Not much point in being friends with barnyard animals … they are for amusement only https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/humans-barnyard-animals-and-circus/
You are right bang on with this one. Curiosity is the key. I have heard the exact same thing from these people…”I don’t care”…is another way to express “I am not curious”
i believe curiosity is a sign of intelligence.
Wait wait wait a minute. Excuse me Gentlemen, but remember the 1 truth and many lies yes?
I cannot be uncertain about 2 apples+ 2 apples is 4 apples, grass basic colour is green, and the sky is blue, just to please you guys ok?
When I correct your 2+2 apples are 3 apples, also could be 5 apples or maybe 7 apples, ….ehh because there are many many truths, and I say………NO there are not! Its 4 apples.
The Catholic Church and the Pope claimed up to the 1970’es that the globe was a flat pancake. I say Nope, the globe is a ball! Period.
It is THE End of discussion, Weitergehen, Fortsetzen, Achtung, Heraus. FOOK. I am not saying “Yes Sir Our Planet is flat” to please the Pope”.
Nope, there are not many many many truths. There are only lies in pluralise. He is One!
Todd you triggered me with your article and I still cannot forgive what happened during covid.
Note the date–01 Apr. 21, April Fool’s Day.
Half the population? Nope
Half the polled/voting population perhaps.
And people have always been ignorant following authority…
In the past it was the major religions.
Then it was the king, now the president.
Think of how the majority of idiots supported the Vietnam,; Iraq Afghanistan etc wars.
Why? Because they’re too lazy to empathize with foreigners.
In the case of Vietnam y’all morons thought it was good cause “communism bad”.
These days I’m less worried about the future because finally people are once again questioning authority, whether a DemoCRIP or RepubliBLOOD.
Actually … being in favour or ambivalent towards war … is the one thing the barnyard animals got right …
The consensus amongst the barnyard animals is that the world is unfair and that we need to strive to improve the lot of those living in the third world.
They are also incensed that the USA and their vassal states known as NATO constantly meddle and often invade weaker nations installing flunkies who help them plunder resources in exchange for a piece of the action.
Be Careful What You Wish For
We have over 8 billion humans on this planet who would like to live in a nice house, own a car, attend decent schools, pile a trolley full of food at well-stocked supermarkets, enjoy quality medical care, go on vacation from time to time, drive on smooth roads, and enjoy the benefits of living in a country that has rule of law.
The majority of the 8+ billion have none of the above. But they cannot have it because there are not enough resources on the planet to allow 8+ billion humans to live large like we do.
Okay, nobody believes they can live that large but at the bare minimum we would want them to have enough to eat, education, a reasonable home, some medical care, and a job.
This is a zero sum game – if we were willing to share the planet’s limited resources with the billions of slum dwellers around the world, those of us in the affluent nations need to be willing to reduce our standard of living dramatically because the majority of the world’s population living in poverty dwarves the haves.
Who is willing to accept a 50% reduction in their standard of living? I see no hands.
Who is willing to accept a 10% reduction in their standard of living?
Before you thoughtlessly put your hand up, you first have to agree to report to HR tomorrow morning and instruct the manager to dock your pay by 10% and donate the money to UNICEF.
The truth of the matter is that we are infatuated with living large. We all want more.
If you disagree then go back to the HR manager and tell them you prefer not to have a salary increase this year because you have more than enough and a wage hike will only enable you to buy more.
War is Necessary
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/are-you-willing-to-reduce-your-standard
Ordinary US folk had no time to philosophise on Communism. The grunts sent as cannon fodder had few other options; read about life under Eisenhower. They, and those receiving their coffins back home, woke up soon enough to the class system. The people DID stop the war. But deformed babies are still born in Vietnam, and mines still create new cripples in Cambodia and Laos.
Except that scenario #2 did not happen!
People choose what they think is right and wrong by what they like. If they like it, it’s right. If they don’t like it, it’s wrong.
Once again hormonal unstable Cry baby Simon woke emlo attacking off G on line after he attacked the O.G commentators and called them anti Semitic.
A Communist in Hong Kong @SimonElmer2022 · Dec 22
I sent you that piece on replacement immigration as a test of where your commitment to free speech lay – the commitment you site as justification for publishing the stream of abuse on the comments section of my articles on Off Guardian – and it lay exactly where I thought it was.
@OffGuardian0
@OffGuardian0
A Communist in Hong Kong
@SimonElmer2022
·Dec 22
As the Magdeburg attack has confirmed, replacement immigration is the single biggest issue in Europe, yet you and every other ‘alternative’ platform in the UK have refused to publish my articles on it. You are phonies and cowards, and I have no working relationship with you.
Never saw that coming. 😂
Same woke elmo retracted his O>G article and banned a load of people for not agreeing with him and having a different revisionist history understanding.
Elmer has revealed himself as a barking paranoid walker but your comment here doesn’t seem to relate to the article above the line.
Granted you could intend an “off topic” but you quote the title of the ATL article.
When I said “walker”, I of course meant “wanker”. But then Simon may have turned into one of the Walking Dead!
Put in the simplest way we are told what to think and how to think by our media. If that conflicts with known fact then we have to keep quiet.
I am one of those people who do not know how to keep quiet and consequently no-one listens to me, because I never stick to narrative.
Unlike most who talk about Covid I can claim some expertise, with training and experience in microbiology and virology. So when the public knew ‘something was amiss about Covid’ I looked and thought a new strain of SARs corona virus was pretty normal. The 4th such event in the past 30 years.
There was however something amiss about the vaccines.
Death from Covid19 SARs is continuing at the same rate with vaccination as without. [Worldometer data}.
Health research now estimates up to 17 million deaths may have resulted from Covid19 vaccines. Covid19 is blamed for 7 million. Both figures will be inaccurate.
They are. The 17 should be 18 mio = 3 x 6 mio = 666. The 7 mio should off course be corrected to 6.
A very good article for the New Year. Thanks and have a good new year yourself Todd!
I used to think that the main fallacies ought to be studied so they can be avoided. Hah.