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OffG’s Lab Leak “I Told You So”

Kit Knightly

Back in January, as part of our “predicting 2025” series, I wrote that 2025 would be the year of the Lab Leak reveal, and that the lab leak theory (LLT) would be “quasi-officially true” by the end of the year:

Lab leak theory has already come a long way from barely even a fringe idea to an acceptable alternative, but in 2025 we expect it to take the final step, becoming the majority view.

Less than ten days after we published that article, the CIA officially endorsed the lab leak origins.

By March, the New York Times was bemoaning the fact we were all “badly mislead about the event that changed out lives”.

In April, the Trump White House added this to their official website:

Last week, FBI Deputy Director stated in an interview last week that the FBI was investigating a potential “cover-up” of the origins of Covid.

The New York Times is publishing articles asking “Why Are So Many People Sure Covid Leaked From a Lab?”, remarking that “the tide is turning” on Lab Leak Theory, and arguing – essentially – that the LLT could be true, but pretending it wasn’t back in 2020 was only responsible to prevent an increase in anti-Chinese sentiment.

Yesterday, The Telegraph headlined:

It’s time for the truth. Here’s the Covid Paper they don’t want you to read – All the evidence on the Wuhan lab leak, properly organised

That’s right, “they” don’t want you to read it so much that they put it on the front page of The Telegraph. Kind of like giving “the movie they don’t want you to see” a flashy London premiere.

Four days ago, the Miami Herald reported that 57% of Americans now believe the LLT to be true, this is likely as trustworthy as any opinion poll – viz, not trustworthy at all – but it’s funny because we predicted…

in 2025 we expect [Lab Leak Theory] to take the final step, becoming the majority view. That’s a majority view, not consensus. We’re talking about a cultivated 55-45 split. Because the natural vs lab-leak argument is too valuable ever to end.

…OK, I was 2% off, but the point stands.

Anyway, we’ll be cashing in that “told you so” voucher now.

Actually, make that two “told you so” vouchers. Because, well, remember what I said last week about Covid?

“See, as with everything it’s about balancing the scales. There’s no single narrative anymore, instead the machinery focuses on equally distributing hopium and rage-bait to each side on every issue.”

Well, just as The Telegraph is hyping one study that “proves” Covid came from a lab, the South China Morning Post is hyping a different study that “proves” it didn’t.

Choose your side. Pick your proof. And round and round we go.

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Frank Russell
Frank Russell
Jun 8, 2025 9:57 PM

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 8, 2025 3:33 AM

The lab leak/Gain of Function story on its face is patently absurd. It falls apart with this simple fact: The initial (March/April 2020) “victims” of the alleged SARS-CoV-2, the lab leak virus in question, were over 80 years old w/4+ comorbidities. 

Not only that but this only happened in specific jurisdictions- 15 states. 

Not only that but it only impacted the poor. 

How is such a virus so selective? How is it that such a virus in fact did not spread widely?

The “lab leak/targeted spraying/GoF” theories do not hold water and cover up what actually happened which was straight forward mass murder in nursing homes and hospitals. This had nothing whatsoever to do with a “viral event” and all to do with administrative slaughter and hospicide. All of the “Covid deaths” are fraudulent and inventions from the Pharma/medical/media cartel. The vast majority are medical murder.

Here are some of the things you have to believe to accept the pandemic narrative and thusly the assorted tentacles such as the “lab leak” theory: 

1) The “first wave” of Covid deaths in the US- the 6 week spike- occurred almost exclusively in nursing homes and hospitals- not in the general population. This virus targeted these places and not the rest of the country; 

2) This group that was targeted by this virus was elderly and sickly. The median age of Covid deaths during this period exceeded normal life expectancies with on average 4 comorbidties. 

They were also forced into isolation, abandoned and/or given numerous toxic pharmaceuticals beyond their normal medical regimes. This deadly virus was only able to impact those who already had one foot in the grave; 

3) During the “initial wave” only 15 out of 51 (DC) states were impacted. Many of these states border one another. These states all had Democrats as governors who enacted the same policies during the very same week. The other 36 states were not impacted during this time. This virus observed borders and political affiliations; 

4) During this time those impacted were almost exclusively poor and many were disabled. This GOF virus stayed away from upper middle class and wealthy people; 

5) During this time this virus did not enter into Canada observing the world’s longest and one of the if not the most heavily trafficked, commercial and personal, borders; 

6) This virus had no lead in time. There was no observable evidence for a coming mass death event caused by a virus. The all-cause death rate leading into Week 14 2020 was negative for the US in 2020 and spiked precisely the week the WHO declared a global pandemic. 

7) This “deadly lab-leaked virus” caused no mass death in the original place of the “lab leak”- read that again;

8) The “gain of function” hypercharged “virii” migrated to N Italy from Wuhan skipping over Pakistan, Viet Nam, Afghanistan, etc; 

9) The “virii” did not migrate to Central or Southern Italy nor impact other parts of Europe- instead it went to Elmhurst hospital in NY; 

Not only does the “pandemic” narrative serve to cover up the fact that it was mass murder directly attributable to policies mandated by identifiable individuals but it serves as a smokescreen for the entire “Covid” scam that is steamrolling people’s lives. The insistence on using the “lab leak” red herring covers up the actual crimes that were committed. 

Hans
Hans
Jun 8, 2025 7:15 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Covid sars 2 virus (among others) is never proven to exist. Do viruses exist ? How can it migrate, infect, kill ? PCR-driven figures do exist. All fraud. Vax for what ? Poison is real : poison for our mind, poison for our body.

Annie
Annie
Jun 16, 2025 10:10 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

My belief is it was a mass cull of the disabled and elderly sort of what Hitler did to his own people but in the guise of a fake pandemic.

Emily Durron
Emily Durron
Jun 7, 2025 8:38 PM

This crappy little virus was harmless to all that had no pre-existing vulnerabilities. So who gives a shit where it came from? Why do you think this is interesting?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 10:00 PM
Reply to  Emily Durron

When the public find out someone must pay for the unnecessary cost. It had a price yes? It was not free of charge.
All the costs to masks, lock downs, sick leave, vaxxes, m.m.. Who is gonna pay for all this? China!.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 7, 2025 12:33 PM

I’m waiting for the weasel to pop…when do you think that will be?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 7, 2025 10:17 AM

Lest we forget!

Claire Fox:

It is galling because I am very much in favour of COVID vaccines and I have no time for the anti-Big Pharma tropes or the rejection of pharmacological interventions.

https://clairefox.org.uk/why-choice-is-crucial
https://academyofideas.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/MJ-CF-comp-vax.pdf
Baroness Claire Fox is a member of the House of Lords and director of the Academy of Ideas.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 10:03 PM

Mankind is proud to present her as our representative for the highest intelligence we can find during all times since Adam and Eve. She is the One!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 8, 2025 11:24 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

MI5 Goes to Brussels

comment image

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/04/24/fox-breaks-cover-from-revolutionary-communist-to-farages-right-hand-woman
Fox Breaks Cover – from Revolutionary Communist to Farage’s Right Hand Woman
Otto English on the weird moral maze of would-be Brexit Party MEP Claire Fox and her Spiked Network.
Otto English
24 April 2019

chris
chris
Jun 7, 2025 6:47 AM

From the lab yes. Whether it was a leak or deliberate release is another question

Martin Larner
Martin Larner
Jun 6, 2025 10:48 AM

Which is yet more proof that there’s no such thing as Covid. Virology is bullshit.

landy
landy
Jun 6, 2025 8:01 AM

I got long covid.
(the bullshit variant)

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 7, 2025 10:06 PM
Reply to  landy

More to come, Eternal covid. Always covid. Life is about covid.

jlk
jlk
Jun 6, 2025 3:34 AM

‘They’ want us to believe that ‘they’ can create deadly ‘viruses’ out of thin air.
THAT IS A LIE

Thom
Thom
Jun 5, 2025 10:35 AM

China was most likely the target. It looked then, and looks now, that under the cover of ‘covid’, the US tried to shut down the world economy to wrest economic dominance from the Chinese. It backfired, just as 9-11 backfired, so now they have to cover that fact by digging in with the China conspiracies – which probably only people who hate China in the first place find credible.

Martin Larner
Martin Larner
Jun 6, 2025 10:51 AM
Reply to  Thom

Has anyone written an article about this? The sense of what I’d heard before was that Lockdowns were a Globalist thing not a US trying to topple China thing.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 9:49 PM
Reply to  Thom

If China had been the only target, Russia and Putin would not have acted as a well taught poodle.comment image

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Jun 4, 2025 10:07 PM

Maybe this plane of consciousness is not really where we live, but rather a hypnotic spell to divert us from our true reality and Home.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 4, 2025 6:37 AM

Legendary singer Art Garfunkel performs in Israel. He said, “I am happy to be here in Israel. If Israel is in danger, the entire world is in danger. We all must not allow fear to define or control us.”

As he sputtered these words Hamas were launching nuclear bombs all round him whilst Arab psychopaths were oozing up from underground to sodomise lovely Israeli bimbo virgins and Israeli baby heads were showering from the sky.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 4, 2025 1:23 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Ouch.

Ort
Ort
Jun 4, 2025 6:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I was curious about the date of this performance, since various US-based artists have performed in Israel over the years. So, FYI:

Art Garfunkel, the legendary singer of Simon & Garfunkel, performed in Tel Aviv, Israel on May 30, 2025, alongside his son Art Garfunkel Jr. and Israeli musician Aviv Geffen. The concert took place at Tel Aviv’s Ha’Yarkon Park before an audience of over 50,000 people. This was a historic event, as Garfunkel became the first international artist to perform in Israel since the devastating attack at the Nova Music Festival in October 2023.  😡

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 1:03 AM
Reply to  George Mc

This whole story means that WE are in danger too. If it rains down with baby heads in Israel, it will arrive at our door step soomer ehh sooner or later as Garfunkel says.

Let these baby heads not control you nor define your life! Seems to be the message.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Jun 4, 2025 3:28 AM

Everyone knows that kovid came from space (and space is endless, so a bad news – infinite strains…). He also knows:

Before the plenary session, the President, accompanied by Healthcare Minister Mikhail Murashko, visited a thematic exhibition organised on the forum’s sidelines, where he was told about innovative solutions in digital, genetic, bio- and neurotechnology, AI-assisted software, and projects in regenerative and nuclear medicine.

..

V. Putin: We have created this platform to discuss promising solutions that are just being born and tested now. In some cases they are even ahead of the times, but very soon they should and certainly will dramatically change people’s lives.

..

Strange as it may seem but even such companies as Rosneft, which are not directly involved in medicine, are also joining these efforts, and investing their available funds into the development of genetic engineering..

..

..we are close to developing so-called oncovaccines, or cancer vaccines..

..

we must keep moving forward […] and become global leaders in key medical technologies and be prepared to take up any challenge, including threats of new pandemics.

..

[Russia was] the first in the world to offer a COVID vaccine.

G. Trubnikov [session moderator]: ..I suggest we start with epidemiology. Everyone still remembers it, everyone understands it, and it affects large groups of the population.

V. Putin: Like in football.

G. Trubnikov: Like in football, yes.

This affects large groups of the population. I think it is important to note from this stand today that Russia is one of the few countries in the world that have fought the coronavirus pandemic the most successfully..

..

Academician Vasily Akimkin [Head of Rospotrebnadzor Epidemiological Center]:

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Dear colleagues!

The COVID-19 pandemic has become a powerful impetus for the development of genetic technologies, and today the term “PCR test”, “PCR testing” is well known to every citizen of the Russian Federation.

We must remember the first stages of the pandemic, when the duration of such tests was maximum, and you, Vladimir Vladimirovich, in 2021 set yourself the task of reducing the time for such tests as much as possible. Already in 2021, literally a few months later, specialists from our institute created an internal enzyme base that allowed the creation of T-systems performing such tests in 30 minutes..

..

Within the framework of the federal genetic technology program, we developed a genome editing system based on the use of CRISPR-Cas technologies. This is one of the modern technologies that allow genome editing..

..

It should be emphasized that last year we received all the necessary proteins for genome editing from local production.

..thanks to genomic research technologies in the Russian Federation for the first time we can talk about a national database of pathogen genomes of infectious diseases..

..

What does such a database provide? First of all, it is the basis for genomic-epidemiological surveillance – the leading scientific field in the world today, proposed by Russia. It allows us to identify and respond to the epidemiological situation in a timely manner, it enables us to create operational actions..

V. Putin: Where did our viruses come from, did they come from space?

A. Makarov: Yes, in space too. …

V. Putin: We can speak endlessly – just as the cosmos is endless.

Thank you.

You see how simple things get: one led to the second, and it to the third… And the very thing from which everything started is gone, does not exist, there is no such thing. But the things that it has led to are there and there will be even more (now they only trein up for the match).
(*At least it is good that “Russia proposed the leading scientific field in the world today – genomic-epidemiological surveillance”, good luck for us. Every time I read/watch about the “vile war of disgusting, warmongers, drug-addicted liberals against Russia and Putin“, I am relieved that at least we have the genomic-epidemiological surveillance proposed by Russia. Because if a new PANDEMIC strikes?!)

Anyway, this published thing is not about that. This is the sequel, and this is its sequel, all in the category chip. See there, if you are interested, watch (and later all we together will necessarily see how things will develop in the near future).

The subject is still the same reason why I named myself so in response to another forecast by Kit Knightly, specifically for Trump-Ukraine “war”. I said that there will be no truce, because the war has strictly specific objectives (the same as in the links above; clarifications: first, it is a “drop in the sea” in terms of all available, but not displayed outside Russia info, and second – is only the beginning, there is no “now, immediately, everything together, quickly”, you know, becomes little by little, step by step and for years, decades) and at the moment it is shaped – not to have armistice. (But there could be tomorrow, who knows…) Not “because of Trump,” “Euro-liberals,” or anything, “ukronazi” lol, but because “war” is not planned for a Nobel truce for Trump, but for something else, which is why it must continue. “According to me”, ok. And so.

(And Trump and Putin are the same image of the “savior who, put in a difficult situation by the evil liberals, speeds up the plan, which is always about technological growth.“)

Binra
Binra
Jun 3, 2025 8:42 PM

If you want to give Operation Covid a booster – argue and identify within its framing.
In return your ‘identity’ in grievance gets reinforcement as defence against exposure to healing.

Such is the ‘bargain struck’.
There is of course another way to look on this and any other situation, but a vested reaction has it’s fruits – and will defend them as its reality.
Giving power to false solutions cannot know freedom. Truth shows you, you are free. But not in the frame of self-image seeking to replace truth.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 4, 2025 1:02 AM
Reply to  Binra

If I dont know whether my ID is DNA changed by the Mrna vaccines or the chemtrails, I cant give you my Identity. Even my Digital ID I cant give because AI has it and can change it every minute. I dont know who I am anymore. Am I AI or is AI me?
Am I my name which somebody also is named, or am I my Social Security number.
Who am I?

Alien Observer
Alien Observer
Jun 4, 2025 10:46 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Your are a timeless conscious being having a human experience in a “physical” reality that is made of “matter”. Matter is energy. Energy is light. We are light beings. There is nothing outside of us. Our bodies are within our being and our being is within our bodies.
Physical reality is dumbed down by the limitations of our five senses to detect the light of this projection of physical reality by our consciousness.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 1:27 AM
Reply to  Alien Observer

“…limitations of our five senses….“.

Down to earth Mr.Alien: If we spend 10 hours/day looking onto a flat-screen; your Smartphone when you wake up in the morning, your computer use before noon, your speech after noon in front of your power point, your TV when you arrive home, and finish off with checking your Smartphone for news before sleep.
Then there cant be many minutes for use of our REAL senses.

So you mean we dismiss our own 5 physical senses except the visual in favour of 10 hrs daily looking after a light inside a flat-screen.
This you call “projection of physical reality by our timeless consciousness.

I call bs when I see and hear it. This is pure babble babble mister

axisofoil
axisofoil
Jun 8, 2025 10:40 PM
Reply to  Alien Observer
axisofoil
axisofoil
Jun 8, 2025 10:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Good question.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Jun 8, 2025 10:35 PM
Reply to  Binra

Say what?

stateless3
stateless3
Jun 3, 2025 5:34 PM

So, the obvious conclusion is that there is no virus, as many of us have been saying since March 2020.

Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Jun 3, 2025 4:32 PM

There was never a freaking virus, it was bionanotech for wireless body area networks (WBANs) for the Internet of Everything (IoE). Their Plan is to create a Global Brain/Global Mind and bci/acc is necessary to connect cyborgian hive minds (human/AI) to the Spatial Web.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.10569

https://blog.oceanprotocol.com/bci-acc-a-path-to-balance-ai-superintelligence-80bb6f32e39c

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 4, 2025 1:19 AM
Reply to  Rodrigo

Can you or one of the 5 guys/girls who voted you up or someone else give us an understandable explanation of this particular bs from your link here:

“First, we aim at enabling optical network researchers to conceptualize new research lines for future optical networks with human-AI interaction capabilities by introducing them to the main mathematical concepts of the active inference framework.” ???

Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Jun 4, 2025 1:36 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Today optical networks are static, the aim is to turn them into “living things” through biomimicry, making it a “nature-like” technology, that’s why they need researchers to learn the free energy principle of the active Inference model of sentience of Karl Friston et al.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.01354

https://www.verses.ai/news/verses-renews-agreement-with-chief-scientist-karl-friston-to-continue-innovation

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 1:44 AM
Reply to  Rodrigo

In simple words: The aim is to make stones alive. Make them to live.
Static stones before but after Science spend some time in a lab, these static stones became living things…….after the free energy principle. Yes?

Sorry, but I cant see anything but the shadow of Don Quixote here. flat,750x,075,f-pad,750×1000,f8f8f8.u1.jpg (750×1000) .

Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Jun 5, 2025 6:28 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

It’s crazy, but that’s what they’re trying to do with Convergent Technologies. And if they fail they have the Collapse scenario from the Great Transition where elites will live in interconnected enclaves while everybody else will be subjugated by Police States managed by Nanny AGIs.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 9:57 PM
Reply to  Rodrigo

I can at least imagine a scenario like that. Ok thanks for taken time for an explanation.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Jun 5, 2025 5:55 AM
Reply to  Rodrigo

Guess what the next Future Technologies Forum (next year) is dedicated to, Rodrigo? “Bioeconomy” with a great emphasis on nature-like technologies. Things are progressing (according to plan).

Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Jun 5, 2025 4:54 PM

You’re right. Read Mr. Putin talking about this in the 2025 FTF:

“It is imperative that global development remains equitable and balanced. To this end, we must pursue further industrial and technological progress while simultaneously mitigating adverse environmental impacts, preserving the planet’s delicate ecosystem, and its flora and fauna. We will, of course, proceed from the necessity of applying precisely such technologies. It is no coincidence that advanced solutions in genetics, bio- and nature-like technologies, as well as the creation of materials replicating processes within living systems, now occupy a central focus of our attention.”
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/76304

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 10:04 PM
Reply to  Rodrigo

Its worse than I could imagine.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Jun 8, 2025 10:43 PM
Reply to  Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Jun 10, 2025 2:00 AM
Reply to  axisofoil

Woke/anti-Woke dichotomy is part of a weaponized transmedia storytelling under the Dark Enlightenment hyperstition flag to manipulate the microcephalic adepts of the New Right. I could care less.

mik
mik
Jun 3, 2025 1:54 PM

not entirely unrelated

https://imgur.com/EcRIPAO

mik
mik
Jun 3, 2025 1:14 PM

Efimov Victor Alekseyevich nailed it perfectly:

people must always be given a choice between two lies at least. They must never be given a choice between the truth and a lie, because they might choose the truth than.
His lecture:
youtu.be/kuf9d3sci-w?t=2

This begs the question regarding the truth.

When you come to court in US there is an oath ritual: You will tell truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth.
What is the whole truth?
It depends on the domain one is willing or being able to observe/consider.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 3, 2025 10:25 PM
Reply to  mik

Efimov Victor is brilliant. Look and hear how true intelligence look and sound like in primitive conditions. Pure factual matters! Amazing.

Tim
Tim
Jun 3, 2025 11:18 AM

Have you read about the alleged “terrorist attack” by an Egyptian citizen without a residence permit with Molotov cocktails in Boulder, Colorado with 0 fatalities at a pro-Israel event, which he had allegedly been planning for a year?

Certainly, because the Jew-thralled media canon speak as if on cue from one mouth. Within just a few hours, virtually the entire Western system press, which has been brought into line, has rolled around the world thousands of times like wildfire.

There is even already a BolsheWiki article. One of the victims is said to be a so-called “Holocaust survivor”. and the FBI is investigating. At the same time, the “documentary” “Viral: Antisemitism in Four Stages” is being promoted with creatures like the hateful psychopath Lipstadt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boulder_fire_attack

https://www.newsweek.com/mohamad-soliman-suspect-identified-boulder-terrorist-attack-2079586

Now that Israel is temporarily experiencing a low point in the opinion of the world public because it massacres countless children and civilians every day, it is imperative that a supposedly drastic event is used to counteract this and warn against anti-Semitism.

One should also remember such false flag ops as the self-filmed “terror attack” on a locked synagogue in Halle/Saale with a homemade shotgun [!], in which not a single Jew, but two German civilians who allegedly appeared by chance, were killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle_synagogue_shooting

Although in Germany anyone who wants to own a live firearm can easily obtain one unofficially even without a gun license: “According to a frequently cited estimate by the police, there are around 20 million illegal firearms in circulation in Germany.”

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 4, 2025 6:27 AM
Reply to  Tim

“Soliman yelled several political expressions during the attack, including “Free Palestine”, and stated during his subsequent police interview that he was motivated by hate.[2][3]”

Smelling the biggest rat (has anyone ever claimed to be “motivated by hate”?) I checked the footnotes and sure enough Soliman said no such thing.

The entire media’s grovelling to Zionist bullshit is becoming increasingly excruciatingly clear.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 4, 2025 6:28 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Quote from Wiki-shite.

Martillo
Martillo
Jun 3, 2025 10:45 AM

Why would anyone, with a brain, believe anything that comes out the sphincter of the United Snake$ demon?

YOU are still the disease, their death squirt the cure.
Onward ever faster to the inevitable co££ap$€ of their fiat filth and with it the angloZionaZi empire of shit.

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Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Jun 3, 2025 10:41 AM

One thing we know for sure, is that there were cover-ups all through the “scam/pandemic” – that in itself, should lead us not to believe the official narrative on it – and limited hangouts, were, and still are being, put in place to throw us off the trail on trying to find out at least some of that truth on the matter.

What we do know is a lot of people died – the big pharma industries made a fortune out of the “scam/pandemic” as did many politicians and other figures via palms greased – and we the public were injected with, well I don’t really know what was in the vaccines – and they were rushed through without proper tests or peer reviews – whilst big pharma was allowed disclaimers – on what might happen to some folk when they were “vaccinated” I use that word loosely.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 7:14 AM

Lab leak?

Yeah, and I’ve got a Stay Young Forever pill.
Any takers?

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:03 PM
Reply to  Johnny

The mirror on the wall would take you, that is if you were fairly young, at the moment you look rather old.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 3, 2025 6:19 AM
Reply to  les online

More ways to keep you on a leash. Just like
-. electricity instead of “harmful” gas for cooking
-. streaming instead of downloads.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 8:13 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I reckon streaming is all about selling us more stuff we don’t need, materially or mentally.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 3, 2025 8:10 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Johnny, streaming films and music is the same as paying for any other subscription service. We do not own the item physically nor in digital form as a download.

It is the promotion of the rentier economy and its uptake that ensures that people keep paying regularly for whatever while never owning the item physically nor even in digital form.

Want to watch your favourite film 10 times? Pay each time rather than own the DVD outright or a downloaded digital version.

Just another route to “You will own nothing and be happy”

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 4, 2025 12:01 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Yes, I’m aware of that, but ‘cheap’ streaming comes with lots of advertising.
Come in sucker.

MartinU
MartinU
Jun 3, 2025 4:06 AM

Alas, anything that comes out of the present Administration these days is presumed to be BS until proved otherwise. The entire HHS has been upended and politicized with expertise purged, funding pulled etc. Its a mess. If you add to this the imperatives of Cold War 2, the need to confront and contain China on all fronts at any cost, and people can be forgiven for just shrugging and finding something else to talk about.

Its also a bit strange to come across an article in OffG in all places that suddenly takes disease seriously. The vast majority of articles I’ve read in the past few years — at least the ones I’ve commented on — talk in terms of Covid being a hoax rather than a credible disease.

The reality is that Covid became hopelessly politicized from the moment it appeared on the world stage. Instead of being just another disease that needs our attention it became a vehicle for the control of peoples’ thoughts and fears, not so much a bioweapon as a psyweapon. Its a nuisance for those of us who are looking for hard information about the virus and its potentially serious side effects, its like people need to exchange a secret sign before they’re willing to discuss things rationally.

Still, if “bioweapon escaping from Chinese lab” is what floats your boat then fine. I’m sure the Chinese are really concerned.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 8:18 AM
Reply to  MartinU

Think you might have misinterpreted this piece Martin.

The point being that the $uiturd$, by blaming the ‘Bad Guys’, are deflecting attention from the real issue.

mik
mik
Jun 3, 2025 12:42 PM
Reply to  Johnny

What is the real issue?

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 4, 2025 12:02 AM
Reply to  mik

Unfettered greed.

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:05 PM
Reply to  MartinU

The bull chit is wearing so thin, that if you cant see through it, you need glasses.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 3, 2025 10:34 PM
Reply to  MartinU

YOU were the one who convinced me there was a real thing, a real decease. But as also Trump had said, this decease is only a little more than the flue.

Then we go from there, a real decease coming from a lab. Different mixes of this lab decease and lab vaccine, make both side defects and deaths.

It rest to explain or discuss, whether this real lab decease together with the lab jabs, also contain DNA changing or Graphene nano antennas or something else?
I only travelled so far.

Maat
Maat
Jun 3, 2025 3:26 AM

There were early documents of the viral sequence, suggestive of a lab origin. But why call it a “leak”, when it may have been a deliberate “release”. The whole event seems like it was planned from top to bottom. At my public University and others, on the advice of Google, they shut down all the faculty blogs at the end of 2019. There were COVID vaccines in the pipeline in the Fall of 2019, and planning documents for a coronavirus pandemic.
As to the virus not being “real”, there a peak in hospital admissions here in the Midwest in April, 2020. I got the virus briefly, and it had some characteristics that felt unusual, like nerve weakness, almost polio-like.
The most chilling aspect to me was being woken up in the middle of the night, March, 2021, hearing a man’s voice say, “Begin the culling of the herd”, meaning the human herd. Like many of you, I know people injured by the vaccine, e.g., severe autoimmune disease or a “turbo”-cancer.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 3, 2025 11:03 PM
Reply to  Maat

Viral sequencing? – You can’t sequence something that you haven’t first isolated (found)!

Here’s a quote from Dr Stefan Lanka about the manufacture of “viruses” and consensus science:

“They didn’t find a genome. They found millions of small pieces.
From millions of very short sequences, virologists assemble a long strand of “genome” using complex computational and statistical methods.
This process is called alignment.

Virologists have never performed and documented an alignment using equally short nucleic acids from control experiments.

With only a few mouse clicks as well, a program can create any virus by putting together molecules of short parts of nucleic acids from dead tissue and cells with a determined biochemical composition, thus arranging them as desired into a longer genotype which is then declared to be the complete genome of the new virus. 

In this process of theoretical construction of the “viral DNA”, those sequences that don’t fit are “smoothed out” and missing ones are added. Thus, a DNA sequence is invented which doesn’t exist in reality and which was never discovered and scientifically demonstrated as a whole.

I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoic debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.”

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 4, 2025 10:26 AM
Reply to  Maat

“… I got the virus briefly, and it had some characteristics that felt unusual, like nerve weakness, almost polio-like.”

Help me god as some say …

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 4, 2025 9:34 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Are you sure it wasn’t the non-conforming, too beautiful, red-haired witch next door who sent over an evil spell to you and made you sick?

Sonny-Raye Hayes
Sonny-Raye Hayes
Jun 3, 2025 2:50 AM

I don’t believe any of this. First off who, in their right mind, would accept as truthful any information from the CIA? Secondly, this scenario seems a dodge and part of the cover up…. covering up a completely false, criminal hoax countenanced, if not perpetrated by the CIA. Resist. Stop using that word which is part of the swiz and invokes believe in something that didn’t and doesn’t exist.

CK_
CK_
Jun 3, 2025 2:31 AM

COVID was largely a hoax in which the flu was rebranded as “COVID” via the fake PCR test. But as soon as you say this, some commenter will claim they had a novel illness that couldn’t have been the flu and so there really was a dangerous new virus out there. Perhaps. But the masses have been brainwashed to always blame illness on a virus instead of considering the possibility that the Powers that Be caused a novel illness using EMF and/or chemical weapons. It’s interesting that cadmium poisoning can cause an illness like COVID…and the PTB can’t admit that, of course, which is why they promote the lab-leak debate instead.

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/could-supply-chain-poisoning-cause

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 3, 2025 2:40 AM
Reply to  CK_

There appears to be a good number on here who think it’s irrelevant whether it’s real or not. I’m surprised.

ariel
ariel
Jun 5, 2025 4:04 PM
Reply to  Big Al

I was in hospital yesterday and for previous 3 weeks deliberately without my computer. I took several nurses and the odd doctor on that Covid was the the flu simply rebranded . They nodded, or mumbled agreement. But not too loudly

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 3, 2025 6:26 AM
Reply to  CK_

Many modern things weaken your health, including (a) inescapable plastic nano-particles (b) poisonous food and medicine you pay for (c) avoidance of sunshine and exercise. Capitalism means blood-sucking.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Jun 3, 2025 2:01 AM

Former Director of the US CIA William Casey 1981-87 once said, ““We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”. I believe we are currently at that point. It doesn’t matter whether it is left or right, conservative or liberal Republican or Democrat most of what we are told is cow dung, period.
What we do know is the “novel SARS-COV-2 virus” was used to pull off a global PSYOP/coup d’état and put us on the road towards fiscal insolvency, techno-tyranny and possibly WWIII! Whether it is true or not, the LLT is being used to demonize China and to make peaceful coexistence more difficult, just as the Ukraine proxy war is doing in Eastern Europe.
China is not going to bend or bow to the US in this trade war. The US has very few options because it is like a man who only has a hammer so he treats everything like it’s a nail.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 3, 2025 10:41 PM

Exactly what I have pointed out the last 20 years. Even this your comment is false and you believe in it yourself! Mission completed.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Jun 4, 2025 8:43 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

What exactly did I say that is false?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 1:51 AM

Everything!

antonym
antonym
Jun 3, 2025 1:58 AM

Why are Big Lies so hard to see when they are staring us in the face from all headlines hourly?

It is the herd / clan mentality that is manipulated for us by the last remaining Devil, the master of Falsehood. He uses talented human puppets as shepherds, dogs and wolves (fear) to drive The Group anywhere he wants while keeping them convinced they chose that goal. Mass behavior is his domain. Dissidence brings doubt to some sheeple so must be totally suppressed.

The problem is that times have changed. Some sheep are waking up even as others are woking down. Internet is a great manipulation tool BUT also quite a spreader of other views. COntrol, Red COmmunism, Green CO₂mmunism. COV₂ thrive on mass COnformity. The old tried trio of money, sex and power is losing steam fast on us bipedal apes. Are we following in foot steps of ancient lizards?

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 10:06 AM
Reply to  antonym

Some salient segues there Antonym, but you forgot COrporate Capitalschism, COrpulent CeOs and COsmic Justice (here’s hoping).

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:08 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Don’t forget the COmmunist block

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 6, 2025 10:18 PM
Reply to  antonym

Dont criticise what you dont understand for the times they are a-changin’.
https://youtu.be/90WD_ats6eE !

les online
les online
Jun 3, 2025 1:51 AM

Fake News Flash**
If your kid has a toy drone, radio-controlled toy plane, or a kite –
get rid of them (ie the kite etc, not the kid)…
The USNATO proxy terrorist attack on Russian nuclear defenses
has scared politicians into realising how they could be targeted
by toy planes etc, so the politicians have declared the toys
‘terrorist weapons’; possession guarantees 20-30 years jail…

** Maybe not fake…

Freecus
Freecus
Jun 3, 2025 1:47 AM

They present a fake binary choice where both options must include a virus, and a political bias attached to each narrative for good measure.
Simulations such as SWS and SEAS, a collaboration between DARPA & Purdue University, use social media data to adjust the ongoing psyop in real-time.
This is from their white-paper:

  • SWS provides an environment for testing Psychological Operations (PSYOP) and Civil Affairs activities, capable of illustrating the impact of these activities on populations. 
correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
Jun 3, 2025 12:48 AM

It’s one big lab and we’re the rats.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 2:16 AM

Nah.
We’re the mice. The Rats run the lab.

PilgrimShadow
PilgrimShadow
Jun 3, 2025 11:31 PM
Reply to  Johnny

The snakes run the lab.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 1:53 AM
Reply to  PilgrimShadow

…and we are ants.

The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
Jun 3, 2025 12:32 AM

Is this the Henry Kissinger tribute act?

The West is supposedly on the verge of war with Russia – so pick a fight with China as well? Instead of dividing Eurasia and Eastasia, let’s force them into each other’s arms?
The 1970s not only had better music and films but it had better politics too?

BTW the Trump Presidency is now five months old and that war that was going to end in a day is still going.

mik
mik
Jun 3, 2025 12:40 PM

war….who cares….he is doing a good job at eradicating the liberal menace.

The only thing that matters is appearance.
Look at the latest Ukrainian success with drones.
Would it be possible without US involvement?
Nobody is talking about who provided satellite communication for those drones.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 12:26 AM
Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 12:20 AM

Enemies to the left
Enemies to the right
They’re all wearing suits
They are humanities blight

The suits have one allegiance
One God and one desire
Mammon, the God of greed
It always ends with fire

les online
les online
Jun 2, 2025 11:45 PM

In a Court of Law “most likely” verdict aint good enough, because it
aint “beyond reasonable doubt” … La Bleak …

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 2, 2025 10:34 PM

Anti-China PR aimed at turning the USA’s citizens into hopeless anti-China dopes like the Australians and Europeans. It will work, people will buy Chinese stuff, reap the benefits of the low China wages, but still complain that these Chinese are somehow in the driving seat, that they are the ones ruining the west, they are the ones replacing Australia’s once reliable power grid with renewables etc blah blah. The people of the west are retarded, just talk to an Australian about China and you will soon see how well PR works.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 12:33 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Whatever happened to the good old distrust of authority that Aussies had?

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:11 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Couldn’t afford to go back on the gold standard.

Martillo
Martillo
Jun 3, 2025 10:51 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I buy Chinese whenever I can. I make sure not to buy any filth the angloZionaZi empire of shit still manages to cobble together. Actually what does that collectioon of trash “produce” other than poison?

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 4, 2025 7:57 AM
Reply to  Martillo

So when you buy that cheap Chinese crap, or not so cheap as the case may be, have you checked to confirm it is a Chinese company not only making it, but marketing it , distributing it and retailing it? Otherwise, somewhere in the chain you are likely putting shekels in the pockets of those from the Empire that you have mentioned. Even if you ticked every box on the list, then are any of the shareholders or investors of said Chinese companies from the Empire?

Gloablisation makes it nigh on impossible to avoid completely.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 2, 2025 10:28 PM

It’s a cop-out. So long as people continue to believe in dangerous viruses – rather than deliberate poisoning via vaccines, medicines, 5G radiation exposure, aerial spraying, toxic foods, people’s own poor lifestyle choices – the the Lab Leak story will do just fine.

Lab Leak story is also quite handy for vilifying other nations with whom one would like to start a war, who in return will also serve as a cover for one’s own bungling of energy policies or comm network failings.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 2:18 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Wars Are U.$.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 2, 2025 10:22 PM

One thing is for sure a fact. The Corona sh.t came from China. No matter how much China is jumping around on their lingua and want to say it, they cannot say ‘America did it’!.

China let it out from a Chinese Laboratory financed by an innocent Bill Gates, on an innocent biological/chemical weapon defence laboratory CIA experiment that China had approved and which China, for some or another reason, let out globally. A fact!!

Conclusion? China must pay for damages done! It is THAT simple man!!

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 2, 2025 10:37 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

A fact!!

Ha ha, because you read it in a newspaper? Easily duped.

MARB
MARB
Jun 3, 2025 8:47 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Its called irony , something long vanished from the World “innocent Biological d3fence laboratory Cia experiment” is the give away , Erik is obviously over 30

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 3, 2025 11:58 AM
Reply to  MARB

Exactly, his comment is dripping with sarcasm like some of his others which also get downvoted into oblivion.

There is always the ‘/sarc’ tag I suppose which standard or was back in the days when I read Zerohedge for the same reasons.

judith
judith
Jun 3, 2025 12:04 PM
Reply to  MARB

OK, I guess it was a joke.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 12:37 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Avarice comes dressed in a suit.
Any race
Any colour
Any creed
And he/she lives in a big house, in a rich suburb anywhere.

antonym
antonym
Jun 3, 2025 2:04 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

With US tech?

What is not simple is that the CCP was in bed with the CIA @ Wuhan Only a globalist few (WEF) can concoct such a brew.

judith
judith
Jun 3, 2025 12:03 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

All due respect – is this a joke?

Am I not catching the sarcasm here?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 5, 2025 2:04 AM
Reply to  judith

Its an imitation of the prevailing Trump Administration. You recall Trump said into a Television camera “The Corona virus came from China”.
What the Trump Administration mean by this comment is “China must pay”.

Likewise with the minus 30-40 trillion in USD public debt, “the world must pay”.
No one in Washington DC could ever dream of slowing down the spending, 50% of the worlds military expenses is by USA as an example, other countries must pay for US extravagance.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Jun 2, 2025 10:20 PM

in terms of myth-making this Evil-Scientists narrative has effectively the same great advantage as the Evil-Emitters scenario for the climate millennarians

both frameworks entail the hunt for and punishment of transgressors, prime movers, rather than mere passive abettors against whom it’s not as easy to whip up an effectively instrumentalizable rage

both frameworks also reinforce the message, integral to globalist megalomania, that, for good or ill, everything in the world is subject to human control

MARB
MARB
Jun 3, 2025 8:59 AM

Also very effectively divisive and great for covering ones Arse ..

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Jun 2, 2025 10:11 PM

the brain trust on the New York Times’s editorial board are SHOCKED, SHOCKED that in spite of their indefatigible quest for journalistic excellence, they were villainously HOODWINKED!

hmmm where have I heard that before? something about WMD in a Middle Eastern oil state?

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 2, 2025 10:02 PM

There are now two official realities when it comes to Covid: the Liberal version and the Conservative version. Neither have anything to do with actuality. Liberals won’t change their minds and neither will MAGA.

Tamim
Tamim
Jun 2, 2025 9:47 PM

“…That’s right, “they” don’t want you to read it so much that they put it on the front page of The Telegraph. Kind of like giving “the movie they don’t want you to see” a flashy London premiere…”

As we thrash around in ever-decreasing circles, I’m so glad – relieved – to have OffG for company. Thank you.

Jonas Carling
Jonas Carling
Jun 2, 2025 9:40 PM

Worth reposting a great analysis on covd false binaries that I left in another comment a few days ago:

https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/false-binaries-that-limit-the-spectrum-32b

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jun 2, 2025 10:31 PM
Reply to  Jonas Carling

Your link is ok. But about to be boring routine; false flags, operation north wind, colour revolutions, saw chaos, divide an conquer, 1 truth 2 opposite lies, nudging, m.m.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 2, 2025 8:56 PM

How the Covid scare story was concocted is really rather irrelevant.

The meaningful issues of 2020 were the mass murder of many people, the total devastation of the non-online economy through lockdowns and the imposition of untested vaccines onto pretty much the whole world.

Do I care whether there was a lab leak or some other reason that ‘Covid19’ came into existence? Not particularly.

I do care about the wilful decisions taken that killed people, destroyed businesses and then sought to destroy the long-term fertility of the human race.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 3, 2025 12:30 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

The point of the Lab Leak Theory TM is to shepherd the right (and many left) populists back into the snug embrace of the duopoly (and maintain the fear of the virus for the next psy-op). This used to the exclusive job of the Democratic Party, but the GOP have shown themselves to be a quick study.

Big Al
Big Al
Jun 3, 2025 2:31 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

There isn’t and never was a Covid-19 and that was THE willful decision. Numero uno. The real truth about the fake Covid-19 pandemic is far from irrelevant, it has to be the foundation of all opposition or it’s just playing into the hands of those responsible.

ariel
ariel
Jun 5, 2025 5:17 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Correct, Al, because there didn’t NEED TO BE. We have witnessed and are still living through the rubble of the BIGGEST MEDIA-BORNE PSYOP so far, which was prepared via Event 201 and the Chinese/Military Games. Sow the doubt and fear into the fertile soil, water with wall-to-wall propaganda. Kill a few hundred/thousand older people with life-ending drugs, and you’re off. Wahey !!!
They have basically made Gaza out of the brains of the TV watching and worshipping masses, thus disabling any ability for independent thought or deed, and thus adequately preparing the masses to sit at home and watch the Real Thing on TELEVISION

MARB
MARB
Jun 3, 2025 9:21 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Now now Rhys, My Doctor told Me just last week that “these are the most effective vaccines ever devised ………they saved Seven Million lives ( in Australia alone !) .. shame on You spreading such paranoid Conspiracies …. No shit My Doctor did say just that .. History in the making said He!.. it still shocks that the view , Millions saved is what most People believe … what are We to do .. ?

An article by someone named Joshua Stylman.. provides a potential clue as to why We are so sharply divided on so Many Issues ..(the late great journalist Walter Bowart .. laid the groundwork with his 1978 Classic “Operation Mind Control”

https://archive.org/details/OperationMindControlResearchersEdition

Joshua Stylmans four part series is very good!…

https://stylman.substack.com/p/mkultra-the-hidden-hand-part-3-the

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:15 PM
Reply to  MARB

If I want to gamble my money, I go to the casino(s),

If I want to gamble my health, I go to the doctor

Ash
Ash
Jun 2, 2025 7:58 PM

Considering the “test” was a 40 cycle PCR using primers with wide homologies, why presume there was ever a novel pathogen at all?

RKae
RKae
Jun 2, 2025 8:49 PM
Reply to  Ash

For the same reason that we “believe” that Superman can be in disguise by putting on glasses: It’s the willful suspension of reality, so that we can all go on an adventure together.

The “pandemic” was an adventure for people. “I was there, man! I was alive when that HUGE event happened!”

Claret
Claret
Jun 3, 2025 11:56 PM
Reply to  RKae

The “pandemic” was an adventure for people. “I was there, man! I was alive when that HUGE event happened!”
……..

I’m a pandemic survivor! I got a bad cold in the winter of 2020 but amazingly escaped certain death after a couple of glasses whisky and hot water, lying on the settee and sweating it out.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 2:23 AM
Reply to  Ash

Or, to put it succinctly:

It’s not the PRC you brainwashed twits, it’s the PCR.

Martha
Martha
Jun 3, 2025 1:41 PM
Reply to  Ash

EXACTLY! MN908947 is a computer code, not a virus. There was never a viral sample for the PCR to test for, just an approximation of a virus. And also there’s that little thing about viruses not actually existing and never having been proven to cause disease. Might be useful information for “the next pandemic” to know the magician’s trick.

ariel
ariel
Jun 5, 2025 5:19 PM
Reply to  Ash

There WASN’T.

Citizen Gaz
Citizen Gaz
Jun 2, 2025 7:52 PM

If viruses aren’t real then they can’t be changed with GOF research in to viral bioweapons. And those labs were doing what? Playgrounds for genetic monkeys on typewriters?
Supposing it was real but not half as lethal as those puffed up monkeys assumed. If fact just another flu strain. So if release was accidental they panicked but thought what the hell let’s opportunistically weaponise it to bring in a global biosecurity state. Earlier than they planned but couldn’t resist.
If release was on purpose they severely overestimated the talents of aforementioned monkey’s who couldn’t concoct a decent & plausible bioweapon without awakening millions to their incompetence and hubris.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 2, 2025 7:22 PM

And the Trotters were well prepared to do the “Left” outrage bit:
https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/internationalPoliticsCategory/wuhan-lab-coronavirus-conspiracy
Covid as capitalist comeuppance, covid as lab leak, covid as “germ warfare”. Notice the common link? Yup. They are all based on “covid as truly real evil bug”.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 2, 2025 9:51 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wow, they are ideological contortionists. They are bending over backward to double-down on the original lie. The Lab Leak Narrative TM suits an anti-capitalist critique better than the “natural origin” Narrative.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 2, 2025 10:07 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

The “natural origin” narrative was the one where capitalism got its “comeuppance” through criminal negligence about health and safety measures in the ferocious pusuit of profit. Or that’s how it was pitched to me by all those “Leftists” who bought into it because it was just too exciting to resist! They are the ones who left OffG in disgust when the rest of us morphed into “Far Right Conspiracy Nut Fascists” etc. In short they bought the bullshit all the way.

les online
les online
Jun 2, 2025 11:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George Mc, if all those “Leftists” left OffG in disgust
are those left Right?

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 3, 2025 12:22 AM
Reply to  les online

Some likely are. But then there’s a lot who reject the whole Left v Right theater.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 3, 2025 12:21 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, of course.
But think of this as a Narrative: US capitalism in its quest for world domination, is compelled to create ever more evil weapons, and one got out of the bag, killing millions…

ironcloudz
ironcloudz
Jun 2, 2025 10:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

also decries the “toothless” WHO Pandemic Agreement:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/06/02/qmqb-j02.html

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jun 3, 2025 12:23 AM
Reply to  ironcloudz

The WSWS is a CIA front.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 3, 2025 1:45 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Surely not.
Where will all the smug middle class Socialists go?

Marx is turning in his grave.

underground poet
underground poet
Jun 3, 2025 8:20 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Since Europe and now the U.S., has suddenly run out of other peoples money, just where can any class turn next, and grave was NOT the answer.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 3, 2025 9:02 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Yup! Got it in one!

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 3, 2025 9:01 PM
Reply to  ironcloudz

Fascinating. First note that “Pandemic Agreement” is all about “improved surveillance”

…. “improved”??!!

And then note that this loveably enhanced system is being defanged! Appalling!

And furthermore, this terrible betrayal of “public health guards” takes place whilst “the newest SARS-CoV-2 variant …. burst onto the scene ….already the dominant strain  …. it has caused significant spikes ….”

AND …. pause for ominous creepy base note a la “The Thing” ….

“…it has been found in several US states including California, New York, Ohio, Virginia and Washington.”

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I_Left_the_Left
I_Left_the_Left
Jun 2, 2025 6:57 PM

So has Kit now chosen his side? I suspect not; ’round and round we go’ indicates eternal rejection of any truth claims about C19, no matter how evidenced. But I don’t get his ‘why’; a fear of being wrong?

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 2, 2025 9:58 PM

The point of the article is the endless arguments over the origins of Covid, so Kit isn’t picking a side, but is pointing out how taking a side is just buying into a false need to argue about sides. Whether covid was real or not, and I fall on the “side” that there was no SARS Cov2 ever proven to exist and that our owners never needed there to be a real one, the damage that idiocy did is done, and ongoing. As we know, any real analysis of the real damage done will never, ever happen. And let’s face it, many of those who took part, zealously, in many of the most egregious abuses, do not want to discuss any of that now, period. The “lab leak” bullshit and arguments over it ensures they won’t have to.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 2, 2025 10:41 PM

no matter how evidenced

Yeah, that’s the problem, there is no evidence. You almost answered your own question.

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Jun 3, 2025 12:07 AM

And what claims of C19 were truths to you and not him?

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jun 2, 2025 6:28 PM

So the Chinese leadership received the memo stating they need to take one for the Team. The Team being the controllers and their minions versus us the plebs. The narrative of there was a virus called Covid, honest guv, is obviously more important to uphold than worrying about nationalist sensibilities.

Not that the Chinese leadership care, since they are bunch of puppets like all the rest, except for the fact that that they need to keep their rather large population sweet if worldwide public opinion becomes a bit too anti-Chinese.

So is there a bone they will be thrown?

Perhaps, they get to take Taiwan unopposed or will be top dog in a few years once the controllers decide to throw America under the bus. It is not as if the leadership can throw out some sage words from Mao’s Little Red Book about blaming western imperialist pigs, since the average contemporary Chinese has about as much appetite for communism as the guests at a Bar Mitzvah or Eid celebration would have for a bacon sandwich.

Anyway, the fact that the media are under instructions to throw some petrol on the fire and remind the public of the Covid-1984 era by resurrecting the lab-leak theory but this time pushing it into the mainstream suggests that Plandemic 2.0 may still be in the offing in the not so distant future. It also means that it too could be attributed to a lab-leak as the narrative cover story.

Since the majority of the public worldwide have memory-holed the Covid -1984 era, never talk about it and there is no groundswell of opinion to hold anyone accountable, the controllers could have just let sleeping dogs lie and have chalked up an easy win.