Pentagon “Leaks”: 5 ways to tell REAL from FAKE
Kit Knightly
We promised a longer take on the Pentagon “leaks”, and here it goes. Regular readers will probably be familiar with my view on leaked documents in general, but if you’re not allow me to quote my own 2019 article on the (absurd) “Afghanistan papers”:
An awful lot of modern “leaks” are no such thing. They are Orwellian exercises in controlling the conversation […] carefully making sure the “establishment” and the “alternative” are joined in the middle, controlled from the same source.
That’s not to say ALL “leaks” are automatically and ubiquitously narrative control exercises, clearly some are real…but it’s usually pretty easy to tell them apart. In fact here’s a little checklist.
1. If your “leak” tells you stuff you already know, it’s probably a fake leak.
“Leaking” widely known, publicly available information is a very common tactic. In the Pentagon “leaks”, for example, it was “revealed” that the US has been spying on South Korea, Israel and Ukraine. But the US spies on everyone – allies included – and we have all known that for literal decades.
Further, everyone spies on everyone, it’s just the way the game is played. Acting like it’s a big reveal, and the performative outrage of the South Korean government, is a hallmark of a fake leak.
2. If your “leak” reinforces the mainstream narrative, it’s probably a fake leak.
Leaks can be used to manage and/or reinforce the mainstream narrative. The Afghanistan Papers are, again, a prime example of this. The “secret history” which did nothing but repeat myths and lies about the US war.
Or the leaked Fauci emails, which resurrected the lab-leak theory of Covid’s origins, but reinforced that Covid existed and was dangerous.
3. If your “leak” gets MASSES of media coverage, it’s probably a fake leak.
A telltale sign of the fake leak is the mainstream media carefully explaining to everyone how important it is and what it all means. The BBC, Sky News, CNN and others have all put out explainer articles and videos detailing the content of the leaks. US spokespeople, like John Kirby, have said the press shouldn’t report on the leaks, but this has made no difference
We know the corporate media is just an extension of the Establishment, they only report what they’re told to report. They have no duty to the truth, and no ties to reality. If they publicise the leaks, it’s because they’re instructed to, because it serves the greater narrative. Officials criticising the press for publishing the “leak” is just a utilisation of the Streisand affect, textbook “please don’t throw me in the briar patch” stuff.
4. If your “leak” source is revealed immediately and publicly, it’s probably a fake leak.
Within days of the recent leak the press were reporting the name and rank of the alleged leaker, his arrest was filmed and the videos sent to the press, and he was arraigned in public. Is this how covert agencies bent on concealing important information operate?
For comparison’s sake, consider Seth Rich. Mr Rich was alleged to be the source of leaked emails which proved the DNC was rigging votes for Hillary Clinton. He died when he was shot in the back by muggers who didn’t take anything.
5. If your “leak” tells you what you want to hear, it’s probably a fake leak.
Never trust anyone who tells you only what you want to hear, that goes double for media outlets or government agencies.
In the most recent “leaks”, we see how they very conveniently feed both sides of the war narrative.
One of the “revelations” is that the Ukrainian military is running out of anti-air ammunition. Meaning that, in the near future, Russia could potentially flatten Ukraine with its air superiority.
This is, obviously and clearly, propaganda aimed at supporting the “Ukraine needs our help” storyline. It will be used to argue the West “has not done enough” to protect Ukraine and result in demands for more money and/or weapons to be sent over.
On the other hand the “revelations” concerning depleting ammunition stocks and higher-than-reported casualties provide, as well as the presence of NATO special forces in the country, fuel to the Western alternative media pro-Russia position.
“See, Russia is actually winning”, they say, “And NATO forces presence shows Russia was in the right, don’t believe Western misinformation“.
All of it combines to maintain the narrative that the conflict represents vital very real and deep-seated moral and strategic differences and isn’t just a turf war between rival globalist gangsters as valuable for its distraction potential as anything else.
We saw something similar earlier this year, with the release of Sy Hersh’s report on the “truth” behind the Nord Stream 2 sabotage, an anonymous insider claiming the US was responsible. Both sides attributing blame, both sides distracting from the real impact – and probably real purpose – of shutting down the pipeline.
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Having established how to spot a fake “leak”, we can see that these “highly classified” Pentagon papers fit perfectly into the “fake leak” category.
Now, the question becomes, if the leaks are Deep State psy-op, what is the objective?
Well, we already partly covered that. Ukraine running out of missiles, for example, will be used to justify even more resources and money being sunk into the murky and bottomless pit of “military spending”.
Secondly, we can already see the establishment crosshairs centering on Discord – the platform where the leaks were first published. Not just Discord, but group chat services in general.
As they almost always are, the fake “leak” will fuel calls for more security and greater control of online content, after all these leaks “put US assets in danger”
More broadly, it simply provides fuel for a waning narrative. So many facts to dispute, and so many arguments to be had. What special forces are in the country? What provocations are they carrying out? Who’s “really” winning? Whose casulty figures are reliable? Who staged what atrocities to discredit which side?
Are the Chinese arming Russia in secret? Will South Korea pull out?
What about the leaker – is he an anti-war hero? A narcissist who endangered America? Or a racist traitor? Should he go to prison? How long for?
Watch the Reds and Blues argue over that one.
It’s all content designed, in the parlance of social media, to boost engagement. Because the system has adapted, they don’t manufacture consent anymore – they farm participation. Angry refutation and warm praise record the same in the algorithm. They don’t want your agreement, they want your attention. And when they feel the story is losing the audience, well, here’s some super secret facts you aren’t supposed to know.
Here’s the real story behind the story, why don’t you go on Facebook and tell everyone about it?
What ultimate purpose do these leaks serve? The same purpose as an end-of-season cliffhanger, or killing off a major character. It gets people talking, it pulls people into their story.
They want you to read it, debate it, and live in their created reality.
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There is a lot of this happening lately (perhaps there is always is?) the organisation where I work has had the same in the past few weeks and it was affecting similar orgs nationwide).
Someone’s comment or article must have hit the mark. Or at least made someone angry
This young “airman” was obviously set-up to take the fall. He is a genius at obtaining information but yet he was also a fool for dumping the info on some random gaming site? Sorry, that garbage can’t be compacted!
This narrative provides a story that can lead to an off ramp for the degenerates that run the White House. Perhaps one of them, one in the military, decided they had enough of this Ukraine BS.
Sometimes we forget that these people are simply just very very stupid. The MOD likes stupid people. There comes a time when someone needs to set it up.
It’s not a leak, it’s an offramp.
A few personal takes from reading the Pentagon docs (thus far): Feel free to correct where I’ve erred.
Firstly, that Russia has the capacity to divert an enemy’s missiles (rather than just shooting them down) using electronic warfare equipment, which sounds pretty cool.
Secondly, that one map revealed the location of Ukraine’s air defense systems, which can’t have been good. They presumably would all need to be moved, assuming a missile hasn’t got to them already
And thirdly, that it seems to be a war of ammunition supply:
From April 2022, Russia adopted a policy of slow attrition. A daily bombardment of Ukrainian front lines, accompanied by minimal land gains. Which seems to have worked fine, except that their own supply of ammunition isn’t infinite. It may not last much beyond the end of 2023. They are also sustaining high combat losses of personnel.
Ukraine, on the hand, has been very short of ammo, though there seems to be potentially much on the way (eg 300,000 shells from South Korea). So depending on how long things drag on, the outcome may depend on who gets the most ammo to their troops. Russia also has air supremacy lurking in the background, which thus far hasn’t been used to much advantage. Quite possibly, deliberately …
don ald said all the right things before becoming president then did the oposite….bible says every people deserve their leaders , and it says ” pray for your leaders ” dear God of goodness truth and love please help us all return to love goodness and truth … thanks and glory to the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit
Take home message: Read the propaganda. Then go take a leak…
After the daily bombardments with lies from the Biden Administration and from the EU and national governments, we have a very well trained detector of falseness. By default, together with the main media, they are deceiving and manipulating. The question in each case is why they address the public, what they want to provoke.
The leaking of the film, Collateral Murder, to Wikileaks meets the five criteria mentioned and an analysis of the film shows it to be fake. The evidence also points to Chelsea and others involved being agents.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html
Just as we can apply a checklist for leaks, we can also apply a checklist for deaths with the main item on that checklist being:
Are there any anomalies in the reporting of the death?
In the case of Seth Rich’s death mentioned in the article. the answer is a resounding YES!
My favourite anomaly is the interview – essentially one big anomaly – with the family placed in the weirdest tableau you will ever see … but then everything weird in this interview.
Shouldn’t a fake news item have some purpose? What possible purpose (i.e., who profits) could there be to faking the Collateral Murder or the Seth Rich death?
As Ayn Rand said “Don’t bother examining a folly, just ask yourself who profits from it.”
Can you not see a motive, Howard? Whether you can see a motive or not, the seeming lack or presence of a motive is irrelevant where there is clear evidence … and there is ridiculously clear evidence that both Collateral Murder and Seth Rich’s murder were faked.
In the case of CM the motive is to infiltrate Wikileaks. Obviously, to infiltrate they want something juicy not some namby-pamby crap … so they fabricate something that looks – superficially – really terrible … but when you blow away the propaganda dust, probably nothing in comparison to what they actually do. The violence is all very Hollywood – lots of explosions but no visuals of the bodies.
In the case of Seth Rich I have to say I’m a little confused over that one. Did the power elite decide that they wanted Trump in so hired Seth to infiltrate the Democrats and leak the incriminating DNC documents? Obviously, Hillary would realise after the fact so was it a case of her having to stick that smile on her dial, knowing she couldn’t call it out – they can never call each other out of course – or was it all somehow pre-agreed? Or …? Hillary is part of the power elite herself so you have to wonder – I guess there are factions as there are everywhere else.
When I first twigged to Collateral Murder being faked which happened via an article on OffG about Chelsea Manning where the headlining glamour photo of her struck me as being incongruous with her being a traitorous leaker I tried to get confirmation from others that it was faked … ironically, in that process I discovered that someone I’d gone to see speak in Sydney and whose every word I’d hung on was an agent, too – Vince Emanuele, allegedly a representative for Veterans for Peace which seems to be very much a front group. Our communications here via Messenger: https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/vince-emanuele-veteran-for-peace.html
Howard, they drown us in these people.
Recently, I found someone else with knowledge of weapons claiming the film was faked but that’s the only thing I’ve found even though there is no doubt about it.
https://www.survivalistboards.com/threads/wikileaks-collateral-murder-video-a-fake.225339/
“I just stumbled across the Wikileaks video “Collateral Murder” and I have to say that I think it is a fake. The US soldiers are supposed to be firing a 30mm “cannon” at these people which in itself is creates a sense of sensationalism. Second I would think that there would be more devistation to the bodies were they to be really hit with a 30mm round. Considering that it is an anti-armor/anti-aircraft/anti-material/anti-bunker round it is going to do major damage when it hits someone. For those who don’t know the size difference between something like a 9mm to a 50 cal -> 20mm -> 30mm there is a MASSIVE difference. I would think it would take off limbs or even worse were it to hit someone. JMO. Can anyone chime in?
Oh, a lot of the backgound talk like the rude comments, laughs etc sounded out of place as well.”
keep questioning; consider the percentage of news stories that are now fabricated to simply sell an idea or theme. I watched CNBC push a story on a black man getting stabbed while waiting in line for KFC’s new chicken sandwich, only to watch the earnings release of both KFC and Popeye’s explode the next quarter off sales of the chains competing chicken sandwiches. As is the logic of the Bernay’s camp, the best form of marketing is that which slides underneath the conscious-field.
With how digital effects and video games have progressed, would we be any wiser if everything being watched from the front-lines of Ukraine was just served up propaganda conditioning us all into a state of paralysis, all while the money register continues to get rung?
How very interesting.
The young man in the bottom center even has a subtle duping delight. He’s just coyly smirking throughout the video, knowing that it’s all bulls**t. Even the old bearded man to our right is doing the same thing, albeit to a lesser extent. Look at the eyes. Look at the smirks. Do they look sad? Not to me.
Just to add another possible intent of the leaks. They could also be used to “explain” the collapse of Ukraine in the war – not because the West didn’t do enough but because “we did everything we could to the point of running out of everything” but unfortunately it wasn’t enough.It wasn’t OUR fault. Which could further be used to leverage the “threat” from RUSSIA!!!!!!!
In other words, this might be a pre-emptive strategy to cover for (probable) defeat.in Ukraine.
just like twitter and facebook and all the rest – tolerated opposition as a means of locking people into herds
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Great truth bomb. Sick of seeing people who should know better drinking any Koolaid handed to them
Harry Vox
In 2014 Harry Vox publicised the 2010 Rockefeller Lockstep document, the blueprint for convid. Surprisingly PBS let him do it on national television. Perhaps the host didn’t realise the significance of the document. Or perhaps it was predictive programming.
Definitely PP.
My reservation about Bobbie Kennedy is that he hasn’t criticized the global warming hoax or the destruction of our energy sources.
LEAK ABOUT VAXXING THE FOOD is the story the idiot leak is trying to distract you away from:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/beef-producers-panic-over-mrna-vaccine-news/5816143?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
includes Tom Renz video
Oooor…is that whole thing just fake news and another attempt to deter people from eating meat? 🤷🏻♀️
“Ask oneself, would there be any leaks if the was no War Racket?”
“Billy Eugenics says take the Cull Juice.”
“Corporate Fascism forever!”
Many people now, tell me they dont watch the news.
However, they get this truth from something called ‘alternative’..
This ‘alternative’ is supposedly ‘unbiased’ ‘independent’ and proudly ‘listener funded’.
Within all of this I am suppose to believe the ‘alternative’ is more honest than ‘normal mainstream news’.
Which brings me to ‘5 ways to tell REAL from FAKE’ and now the ‘alternative’ is telling us any ‘leak is fake’ and everything we need is from them directly= as a trusted source.Which is just another control mechanism – which is what the government uses.
😂 You sound like they really messed you up buddy. I know. Like a hall of mirrors.
Maybe it’s all about destabilizing our sense of reality.
A hypothesis as good as any …
Extracting ourselves from the banks, corporations, media and defense units is probably the best way to end the 5th generation warfare being inflicted upon us, much like the majority of nations are extracting themselves from the IMF/World Bank-controlled neoliberal world order today. If you don’t like the rules, don’t play the game.
YOUR GUIDE TO 5TH-GENERATION WARFARE
“We must stop playing their game. We must stop fighting their war. We must stop ceding our power, our authority, our time, our attention, our energy and our resources to engaging the enemy in their terms in their battlefield.
We must create our own parallel society on our own terms.
And so we rediscover an old piece of wisdom. To paraphrase: “Fifth-generation warfare is a strange game. The only winning move is not to play.”
War is over . . . if we want it.”
I think the problem is that our food, financial system, and basic services for the majority of the people are surrounded by ‘‘their battlefield’. The whole ‘off grid’ advice is not reasonable for the majority; because that set up takes quite a bit of money, skills, and a heck of a lot of time to get anywhere near halfway ‘self sufficient’. So yes indeed, how to ‘just not play’ ? That’s exactly what people are desperate to figure out. And an awful lot of people still don’t have a community’ of ‘awake’ people around them . Finding people isn’t always as easy for some. I’ve read lots of comments on so many sites where people are still struggling to connect.
And we need concrete plans. I think most people who are awake want out of the corrupt system; but we need workable solutions. Solutions that don’t leave people behind.
I have friends who ran away to Thailand when things got hot here Canada. They’ve been on an extended ‘vacation ‘ in Thailand for over a year now. They criticized people who “remained in the cities as ‘“not wanting to leave the system”. I’m pretty sure that’s not why everyone else isn’t on an extended trip to Thailand.
I suggest that to begin with, we should develop networks of reasonable minded people.
At the very least, it provides an avenue for the discussion of what to do.
At best, it can be used to inform everyone of some amazing plan.
The project to dismantle independence, community and tradition by driving people into cities has been underway for a long time. After a few years in the urban jungle, the migrants lose the skill the used to thrive as independent communities.
The excuses used to enforce migration include (a) unaffordable (in rural areas) services (b) farmers not obeying (unable to comply with) regulations designed by fat cats (c) land grabs for giant projects (d) industrial pollution.
Go out yonder, peace in the valley
Come downtown, have to rumble in the alley
Oh, you don’t know the shape I’m in …
— Robbie Robertson (for The Band), “The Shape I’m In” (1970)
As for the Pentagon leak, former CIA officials say there is no way a National Guardsman would have got anywhere close to some of these documents – which most likely originated with the Director of National Intelligence.
https://twitter.com/lynn_ivins/status/1648219771132088320?s=20
A vacancy for a National Guard ‘Intelligence Operations Analyst’:
https://www.usajobs.gov/job/714628700#requirements
An ambition to be the next Teixeira/Snowden isn’t listed in the requirements, though this is:
The zombie, a reanimated corpse, capable of movement but not of rational thought, stumbles out of the think tanks, the public health institutions, the corporations, Hollywood, the video games industry, the state corporate media, and via social networks, out of the phone or computer and into our subconscious.
It is clear that we face an onslaught by cultists who are anti-Christian, anti-human and not even friendly to four-legg’ed beasts — they seem to want to poison the Earth until it is barren.
“We will become gods,” says the World Economic Forum’s pocket philosopher Yuval Harari. And yet they cannot be atheists: they must believe in God to act in such revulsion. Since we know they cannot succeed they’ll do the next-worst thing which is to try to destroy Creation. Is that not what we witness?
Rant: Keep Your Zombies To Yourself — Cultural programming hijacks a rare dreamstate but loses the video game
https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/rant-keep-your-zombies-to-yourself
Matt Gaetz:
Nor is it held by the Trump operation; nor by the majority of the US public; and probably not even by a majority of Republicans. So the Kissinger sock puppets can just go suck it up!
Quote @ 5:00
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Matt Gaetz: “There Are Not 218 Votes To Raise The Debt Limit.”
Bannons War Room
12 hours ago
https://rumble.com/v2itxeh-matt-gaetz-as-we-sit-here-today-there-are-not-218-votes-to-raise-the-debt-l.html
The Muthas Of Invention!
Playing on a screen near you,
Has anyone ever looked at human systems in terms of charge redistribution of praise & blame (penalty & sacrifice)?
Note I didn’t say human relationships. This remains the underlying truth; human relational being. But the charged nature of identity-in-conflict generates ‘systemic’ replacement by a predictive control mindset.
Gain of function set over real relationships runs as social masking – that is as a basis for recognition, acceptance or inclusion in the official system of reality.
What is ‘official’ or main-streamed ‘reality’?
Is it a composite reflection of the current state of invested belief set in action?
Is it no less a personal reflection by which to recognise our own participance running beneath our covertly managed ID, such as to regain freedom to look AT our beliefs, instead of living from them?
At the same time ‘It’ or ‘They’ subject humanity to every kind of insidious abuse, they are revealing the mind through which they operate. The ‘back doors’ by which we are hacked, hijacked, manipulated and tooled are in our thought and belief as core definitions.
The Face of ego is not just a fronting over lies or wishes given power, but a sense of continuity. The ego of facing OUT as a means to diminish or deny the Resources Within, is actively undermining its own life support – at every level of function; ie broad spectrum subjection – operating as IF an approaching victory.
An alien ‘perspective’ operating through a living love – given to masking defence systems, by which to set conflict as the masking signal that saves a face of control over life. The gaslighting of a Promethean mistake set in chains of defiant contradictions.
Waking up to a nightmare is still dreaming.
But who casts the dream that is uniquely your life?
But better – who is being the whole experience – regardless how you are currently framing yourself within it?
Not for thinking more along the themes of what we are habituated to – but that we are.
There is a feeling awareness to That we are.
It is not partial in praise of blame – but may SEEM so if we give ourself conflict and seek to discharge or leak it onto others, so as to persist our personal themes without owning or addressing our conflicts that remain active but ‘hidden’ in our ‘adjusted reality’ or world.
Perhaps not so well hidden now?
I don’t mind admitting that much of what you’ve written is beyond my comprehension.
A truly great communicator can convey their message in a way which can be understood by many. I suspect that only a few will understand your message. Verbosity is not clarity!
Why do you seem to suggest those who contribute on this forum are expected to be “great communicators”? Can’t figure it out considering this is an open space. We try to express ourselves the best we can that’s all.
Besides, on the topics treated on this blog, one-liner/simple-explanation kind of contributions don’t cut it.
We also would’ve accepted “This is essentially TL;DR masked by finger-wagging scolding.” 😉
If you take the right substances it will become perfectly clear, although you’ll forget what you understood when you come back down again.
Is it best, I send my comments direct to OFF HQ for approval.?
As posting them in the comment section first gets them mysteriously deleted!
The truth is that if it was a genuine leak we wouldn’t know about it – the mainstream media would not publicise such a true leak at a time of conflict. Possibly the leak failed to gain the expected reaction or is being used as a double bluff?
Same with AI – if it was really a threat to anyone, the media wouldn’t keep going on about it. They are trumpeting the alleged technology, so that the public think there is ‘progress’ – yes, the same public who are returning to vinyl records in droves!
I’m sure Russia will treat the ‘leak’ in the same manner as they treated one Lee Harvey Oswald being a full on ‘defector’.
LHO, Marine radar operator in Japan, surely had no connection to the Powers’ U2 spyplane ‘shootdown’ as a all you can eat buffet in the spy world.
As Col. Prouty intimated, I wonder what the Ruskies thought of the replaced camera in the spyplane, mere weeks before it was ‘shot down’, as he suggested, set to run out of fuel?
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-41223-offensiveor-collapse
Great link, thanks for posting it. Do you think they’re hatching a Polish-Ucranian
federation? It looks, not for the first time, like it’s nearly over– so long as they don’t use depleted uranium shells.
The Poles have dreams of resurrecting a type of Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth hence why they have worked in lockstep with the US/U.K./ NATO City of London constructed Ukrainian war but also their so called “ war on terror”. The Poles had secret rendition ( kidnap) and torture prisons on their territory.
I agree with the premise of the article and the talking points above but in writing it haven’t you just exposed your own business model?
I will say that its conclusions mirror my own especially about most ‘alt-media’.
As most of the talking points here recently fit the criteria listed above in some form or another it does mean we are all guilty to some degree or another.
6. Corporate news-actors, Serious Sam and Pretty Pam will don their very serious faces to prove how important these particular ‘leaks’ are.
Deadshits.
A lot easier to ignore all MSM.
What leak?
Yes, I’ve no idea what these leaks are, which reminds me- it’s time mine were planted.
I have long had my doubts about Daniel Ellsberg’s “Pentagon Papers”. He is certainly an interesting chap, but he did work for Rand Corp, was up to some shady stuff in Vietnam, and largely put together the ‘intel’ about the Gulf of Tonkin ‘attack” which was the green light to bomb the N.Vietnam from bombers which would have taken 6 months to get into position. Note too that the Pentagon Papers didn’t even mention the assassination of JFK (according to some military chap whose name I forget).
Ellsberg is a regular on Democracy Now and so is controlled limited hang-out. The enigma in all this is that his son Robert was the editor of Orbis Books which published the best book yet on the assassination viz. James Douglass: “JFK & The Unspeakable”. I cannot see that book as being a limited hang-out….
Yes it is. The evidence clearly shows the assassination was faked.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/jfk—fake-assassination.html
Rule Number One of adult sanity: ‘Never consider any Governmental source to have the public interest in mind’.
Rule Number Two: ‘Always assume, until facts rigorously prove otherwise, that every US Foreign policy decision is taken with three objectives: killing foreigners, looting foreign economies and enriching the Deep State.’
Rule Number Three: ‘Always assume, until facts rigorously prove otherwise, that every Western European politician acts in the interests of the USA and NOT in the interests of Western Europeans. Always assume that every Eastern European politician acts in the interest of the USA with the deal being that the USA disses Western Europe as a quid pro quo.’
Rule Number Four: ‘The Mainstream Media is not there to inform you, it is there to brainwash you.’
Rule Number Five: ‘The Labour Party operates for the benefit of US and Israeli interests, not the interests of British Working People.’
Rule Number Six: ‘The Conservative Party works for the benefit of any spivs who will pay Conservative MPs bungs. It is not conservative with money, it is not patriotic and it is not representative.’
If you ever get to speak to either Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer and you address them not as respectable human beings, rather as mafiosi hoods, you won’t ever be disappointed by their behaviour…….
Nice Work Rhys!
Dreadful state of affairs, isn’t it?
The past few years have proven beyond reasonable doubt, that these political, oligarchic and Bureaucratic crooks are, in the majority, real pieces of sh.., manure. The most worrying/sad part … is, I suspect – that they’re congratulating themselves on their collective ‘intelligence’.
Bureaucratic crooks with hooked noses & small hats really are pieces of sh.., manure 🤥
“It gets people talking, it pulls people into their story.”
Kind of the same thing here, one way or another. Another purpose is so you don’t talk about what you should be talking about and what they don’t want you talking about the most, i.e., how to organize and take the bastards down. After over 20 years participating in the “alternate” media, I’ve found that to be the saddest thing. Like that old movie, On the Waterfront, “we coulda been a contender.”
One of Offg’s enduring goals is raising awareness of a system whose raison d’etre is to remain hidden. Simple awareness of this system allows many to become deprogrammed from the zeitgeist, and if enough people achieve this the system will ultimately collapse and fail. The system survives on a willingness in the masses to ignore it. It’s tied into the social contract on a deep level, but as the benefits of these trade offs diminish for the ordinary person, as the system becomes increasingly broken and as more and more people become awakened to it, this contract comes closer and closer to being null and void.
Perhaps we shouldn’t forget or underestimate the power that simple awareness can bring. If we aren’t all actively spreading this awareness, then perhaps we should continue to strive to.
A2
True enough. The West is not innocent and is behind the whole rotten structure at every level.
But the notion that everyone including Russia, China, Belarus, India, Argentina, Mexico Brazil, Cuba, Venezuela most of Africa and most of the Middle East are all in it together takes a lot of believing. Come on let’s get real altogether. Even Australia is having second thoughts.
Well, to turn a question back on you, isn’t it deeply unworldly and naive not to change the discussion to fit the observable facts?
All the regions you mention were ‘in it together’ a short time ago, upholding the myth of a scary pandemic and using it to control their populations to unprecedented degrees, based on lies so blatant and a rollout so scripted it was clear to many it was blatant subterfuge right from the start.
Are we really to believe Ukraine is the centre of a real, organic and potentially apocalyptic conflict in motion, when exactly the same global propaganda mechanisms are pushing it?
Let’s be suspicious of that.
Let’s not make the logical error of concluding that, because regional conflicts can exist therefore the whole Ukraine theatre of war must only be interpreted literally and earnestly. This is no more reasonable than ignoring the blatant propaganda and intelligence infiltration propping up the War on Terror because terrorist splinter cells do exist (or did, did they come back from their Covid furlough yet?).
There is theatre on a global stage happening here. You want the mechanism? Let’s try to cast our goldfish brains back to 2020. I know, it becomes harder and harder as time goes by, especially when we’re all bombarded with daily propaganda urging us to forget. A2
Yes, all countries you have mentioned have one thing in common, they all have either either been economically raped, plundered and enslaved, or directly/ indirectly ( attempted colour revolutions) attacked by the Western powers controlled by the City of London.
Ya OK, I’m waiting patiently for it all to come together. That simple awareness is going to start paying off any minute now.
But seriously, I get you, but you don’t seem to get me. I became more “aware” because of the internet and the alternative media. But that WAS 20 years ago. That’s the way it is.
You’ll get your 🍰 back. You expect a system that took a couple of centuries to establish itself and reach maturity and permeates every aspect of our life, give it sense even, to be “overthrown” in 20 years?
Look around man. Time is short. The sky is falling, can’t you see it?
Sorry about the cake thing. The fact is the system is embedded in every aspect of our life, has been for centuries. It’s not just about overthrowing a government or reforming policy. These attempts have been made repeatedly in the past to no avail because the system carries too much inertia for it to be radically altered by a change of actors; and sooner or later the thing shall fall back on the old tracks notwithstanding good intentions and strong will. There is a rationale, a certain way of doing things (producing for profit) replicated by the humble grocery store and the biggest shareholder, the whole thing swimming in a cultural atmosphere (that of the ruling class) that strengthens this rationale in an insidious manner.
The system sustains itself through three independent mechanisms:
-Violence (State);
-Ideology (the complex of political, legal and cultural system);
-mute compulsion of economic relations (a force within the economic sphere that compels actors to try and reproduce the rationale above-mentioned; see Søren Mau’s Mute Compulsion).
To overthrow this system would mean to force everyone out of their usual way of living. If people are not ready though, forcing them will inexorably produce a tyranny and the keeping of the system (e.g. 1917 Russia).
The only way IMO is for enough people to voluntarily withdraw from the system after they’ve had the necessary amount/right kind of experiences with it and saw it for the negation of Life it is. That takes time, blood and guts I’m afraid).
Of course we may overthrow the government and take over the branches of the State and the banks. What would happen then? I suppose they’ll say to us: “Goodbye. We are glad to pass power onto you. We failed but Good luck to you”. Do you think we could perform better than them IF we maintain the existing institutions? And if we decide to abolish these institutions attempting a true Revolution while the people are not ready, how can you avoid having to resort to violence against those who think the Revolution is premature and wish to continue with the old institutions? It’s just my opinion of course.
Regarding the falling sky, living in the global South I know something about it. Things would’ve to get a lot worse and there is still plenty of room for that.
Excellent reminder Sam. I find that if you ask the other guy what he thinks first & let him talk first that he’s much more open to really HEARING you too. Especially if you’re not dogmatic.
And just how do you propose to overthrow the system, sir?
By sitting here and reading a blog.
“… what they don’t want you talking about the most, i.e., how to organise and take the bastards down.”
They don’t mind us talking about that either. They even can deliver those “bastards” to us.
At this point, I don’t think there is anything they don’t want us to be talking about. But, they dislike us reporting on the objective collapse of the system as we know it. Take for instance interest rates: the raison d’être of banks ever since they were instituted is to make money – of course – out of the difference between what they collect as interest through lending it and what they pay to depositors for parking it. Well, this situation is reversed now with most of the advancing economies facing simultaneously: low interest rates, low inflation (and anchored low expectations thereof) and high unemployment. Note that the qualification “low” and “high” is as per the standards of these same economies. In the months that presumably “followed” the sanitary theater, inflation and interest rates have spiked a little but major think tanks and financial institutions (IMF, BIS, BlackRock, WEF, …) are of the view that the trend (both low inflation and interest rates coupled with a recessive process, that is low demand, low spending, hoarding of cash, high unemployment – as per these economies’ standards,) shall resume shortly, a trend that started after the eighties of last century (see Ben Bernanke’s Lessons From ‘The Great Inflation’).
What I’m saying is when you have these factors simultaneously, monetary policy indicates lowering interest rates as the main tool to encourage spending and investments . Trouble is there is an inferior limit to interest rate called the zero-bound (which is the interest rate of cash) and since IRs are already positive but near zero, the margin of manoeuvre of Central Banks is narrow: they can’t lower interest rates freely because at one time when it nears zero or hits zero, specially in a recessive context, people run to get their cash (0%) back (to hoarding, not spending) if they sense a trend downward. As a matter of fact, CBs of “large” economies have been applying negative interest rates on and off for commercial banks reserves held at the CB and to large depositors and businesses that can afford it. Not so the bulk of small depositors which (of course) will prefer hold onto cash or get it out of banks illico presto than pay for having it parked.
Major think tanks are seeing that negative IRs policy is here to stay which is one of the reasons there is serious talks of implementing two-tiered digital currency (one with +, the other – IR) and phasing out of cash the presence of which makes difficult the implementation.
The rationale of usury (since about XVIth century) is being negated by itself: Now the lender must pay to have the privilege to lend and the borrower receives more money for the burden of having to use the banks. Symbolically, it signifies the institutions of usury (banks and non-banks) are becoming unwanted, superfluous, flown from, which explains the concerns banks and non-banks are having regarding what they call “desintermediation”: the taking over of commercial banks by Central Banks.
They don’t like us realising, understanding that the current system is condemned to self-immolation by its own logic and at one time or another it has to show itself for the negation of Life it is; for the personification of Thanatos.
– “Monetary policy is exhausted and fiscal policy is insufficient; NIRP (negative interest rates policy) is here to stay,” write the think tanks in their reports.
– “Hurray!!!! Down with Capital!!” thunder the Communists on earth and down from the graves.
mainstream news portals are at the forefront of Promoting Transparency!
in the past week alone, i encountered nearly twenty articles talking about the Internet Stunned and Divided over See-Through Dresses worn by influencers and models.
One thing is for sure, if Bobby kennedy jnr declares tomorrow that he wants to have a go at being Prez Of The US (POTUS), the Gods will show what they think with an Eclipse.
How to spot a fake presidential candidate:
1) They say and write a lot of good things – about punchbags (RFK/Fauci).
2) They appear critical on a big issue – but don’t really threaten the underlying paradigm that sustains it (RFK criticises the vax and Big Pharma – but is not anti-vax and doesn’t challenge germ theory or the allopathic model).
3) While criticising one part of the agenda, they advance other parts big time:
https://heartland.org/opinion/climate-change-deniers-should-be-jailed-rfk-jr/
All of us here – well, most of us – well, many of us – well, some of us…assume a great big bundle of things put together by the super secret satanic forces of pure evil.
Not everyone on planet Earth does though. Perhaps RFK Jr. is in this latter category. I realize from our perspective that makes his motives suspicious – as it should.
However, insisting RFK Jr. must “challenge germ theory or the allopathic model” just might be asking a bit too much of someone in public life and such a big part of the establishment. Ditto vaccines. It can probably be shown that vaccines do more harm than good; but for a public figure to come right out and say all vaccines must be stopped would simply terrorize the majority of citizens.
He who would run for public office must pander to the public. For this a strong stomach is needed. Plus a willingness to sugar coat reality. The average voter is, after all, a fragile being who above all else does not wish to know the truth.
I’ve heard him say that he’s not anti-vax, he vaccinated all of his kids, and that he’s anti-unsafe vaxes. He knows there are no safe vaccines, nor any safety studies that hold up. So what’s he really saying? Safety studies or no endorsement. That seems like a reasonable position for a politician or a lawyer. That’s not pandering. That’s pointing out the obvious to people who still believe in vaccines, who haven’t been exposed to the idea that they’re “unavoidably unsafe”. Most people still have no idea that there is complete liability protection. A lot of those people find that out the hard way.
So it’s no germs or no dice now? LOL
Not gonna lie, my trolldar has started tingling.
I certainly hope he’s not inane enough to believe that germs never cause disease. I truly don’t know how you sustain such a belief yourself. It’s ridiculous to think that either germs or terrain are the sole cause of disease; obviously it’s both– and yes, viruses too.
mRNA in PIGS & BEEF RIGHT NOW – this is why they are distracting you:
“Last week, I reported that pork producers have been using customizable mRNA-based “vaccines” on their herds since 20181 — without telling the public. This issue really only rose to the surface after attorney Tom Renz started promoting new legislation in Missouri (House Bill 1169,2 which he helped write) that would require labeling of mRNA products.3 In an April 1, 2023, tweet (and no, this was not an April Fool’s joke), Renz stated:4
“BREAKING NEWS: the lobbyists for the cattleman and pork associations in several states have CONFIRMED they WILL be using mRNA vaccines in pigs and cows THIS MONTH. WE MUST SUPPORT MISSOURI HB1169. It is LITERALLY the ONLY chance we have to prevent this … NO ONE knows the impacts of doing this but we are all potentially facing the risk of being a #DiedSuddenly if we don’t stop this.”
-much more-
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/04/17/beef-producers-panic-over-mrna-vaccine-news.aspx
The Mercola link w/b available only thru the 18th, but somebody’s bound to pick it up.
[They’re already toying w the MILK, guys; stop following the idiot distraction]
There’s been mainstream warnings about multiple prescribed drug takings interacting in unknown ways, with unknown consequences for health.Talk is now of introducing mRNA drugs into populations through their food. No way exists to measure the quantity an individual ingests, no way to decide how the persons health profile will react to the drug(s), and so on.
Sounds like a business strategy for creating more consumers for prescribed drugs that
in combinations undermine health, creating more demand for health undermining drugs.
Win-Win for big pharma.
I had read and posted an article from globalresearch.ca a few days ago regarding this very thing. It’s frightening not just from a human perspective, but from an animal welfare perspective as well.
Even though these helpless creatures exist solely to be consumed (which would be equally true in the “wild”), it does seem like overkill to be using them as carriers of contagion (which is precisely what the mRNA is).
Or perhaps the aim is to exterminate them – as has been happening quite regularly (the 18,000 Texas dairy cattle which were killed in an explosion/fire, e.g.).
One thing is certain: the power brokers have zero concern with life.
Howard, it is horrid not to give our beasties a good life while they live, isn’t it? I was a farm girl– and how can anyone not like animals? They’re interesting and calming. The thought of chicken factories where there’s no room for their instinctive behaviors or even to stretch their wings is so sad.
Sadly, Kit’s analysis is spot-on as usual. We live in a FAKE world.
The Seth Rich “murder”, like this leak hoax is a psyop and fake. Anything or anyone, allegedly involved with Wikileaks is controlled opposition; a rat trap from its inception.
I doubt there are “real” leaks in the media because a) real leaks would be suppressed by the “media” and b) incriminating evidence and secret intel is not JUST air gapped and siloed, but plausible deniability is inherently built into the back channeled military coordination between countries.
The intel orgs are NOT used for spying between countries but for coordination between the corporations posing as countries/governments, controlling the illegal drug trade, international money laundering and bribery, organized crime coordination and for psychological warfare (media) on their OWN populations, such as Project Mockingbird, MK Ultra, MK Naomi etc.
Wars aren’t logical since they waste resources and weaken the countries participating. The wars are engineered for the terrorization of populations, depopulation, planned racketeering and land theft. All wars (hot wars, cold wars, drug wars, civil wars) are fabricated by the ruling cryptocracy.
Wars aren’t squabbles over territory or political systems. Borders are fictional. And politics, political parties and economic systems are psyops to hide the true levers of power which are centralized, coordinated and based on multiple frauds (fiat currency, taxes, legal fictions acting as “governments”, voting etc.)
The Hegelian Dialectic uses the creation of fictional dual/duelling narratives, dividing populations into opposing groups, again and again, throughout history, always steering them towards one planned outcome which ALWAYS benefits the controllers.
It’s Order out of Chaos: Divide and conquer works. And people fall for it every time.
None of the info that’s been ‘revealed’ is remotely worthy of a Secret or Top Secret listing, never mind a code word classification. It’s all been previously discussed on any number of none mainstream sites. That alone says it’s all bullshit and pure narrative management. Ignore the details, that’s all you need.
Oh, in case I’m misunderstood, I wasn’t disagreeing with you!
If what you’re saying is that the world is controlled by a criminal gang, I agree.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump, Biden, Xi, Putin the Mullahs of Iran and others are colluding at the highest levels. But these guys are not the sting pullers. They are all front men who’ve been chosen and then groomed to play their roll.
If they were truly mortal enemies then they would use every trick in the book to try to discredit their adversaries. Like for instance using the power of their media to expose the 911/anthrax false flag attacks at every opportunity. But they never make a peep about that.
They’re all playing footsy under the table.
This is not going to last.
Look at the Middle East. Here you have all the potentates suddenly cozying up to Israel under the Abraham Accords. The citizens of these countries hate Israel for what it does to the Palestinians.
As we can see from recent Israeli attacks in the West Bank it has really pissed off the population of Jordan. Sooner or later this is going to lead to the overthrow of the Hussein regime and an end to cooperation with Israel. And then perhaps open conflict with Israel.
This will result in the overthrow of the Quisling Sisi of Egypt.
After that all bets are off.
It’s even worse than that- the politicians appear to be just actors who distract us while the real power behind the curtain does what it wants.
“I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump, Biden, Xi, Putin the Mullahs of Iran and others are colluding at the highest levels. But these guys are not the sting pullers. They are all front men who’ve been chosen and then groomed to play their roll.”
Yes, they are actors and front men. Carefully groomed and chosen.
However, I think any aggression in the ME is stage managed to create maximum animosity amongst the populations using the “strategy of tension” but without the possibility of any real revolution.
The result of fabricated tensions between countries (corporations) in the ME, increases arms sales, militarizes the police, while maximizing profits for the oil producers – which are all majority owned by the same criminal cabal that runs the world and owns the central banks.
Syria’s (fabricated and coordinated) ongoing civil war is proof of the manipulation of oil prices. The Arab Spring too, was 100% staged and an oil price manipulation operation.
Examining the charts for the price of crude over the last century, there’s correlating spikes in prices where each manufactured conflict or faux revolution (such as in Iran in 78-79) was used to intentionally manipulate the commodities markets. It’s obvious racketeering.
I believe this is not about money. These folks already have all the money in the world. Indeed they control the money under the present circumstances.
They use this unlimited supply of money to achieve their ends
This is about maintaining and increasing their control to get a lock on dominating the world.
I’m not the first one to figure this out. Many go before me but they have been disappeared from view by the criminal gang that control our country.
Regarding corporations being behind this. Nope.
Blaming it all on “evil corporations” is deflecting from the real criminals behind this.
And it’s not that had to figure who they are.
These criminals showed their hand when they carried out the 911/Anthrax false flag attacks. Get them and you will get the criminals behind the murder of the Kennedys, the global warming scam, the covid scam and the endless wars.
Money facilitates more control. And more control creates more money and expands dependence of the majority on ”the state”. Keeping the people in poverty through taxes and the financial burden of racketeering through commodity prices, is yet another means of control.
I agree.
But under the present circumstances money is created by the click of a button.
If Americans actually had to pay for this criminal empire out of their own pocket they would be impoverished and they would move to get rid of the criminals behind it.
Americans have been intoxicated with the greatest drug ever known; free money. .
This free money is of course being looted from future generations of Americans.
Corporations may not be behind the curtain, but they do gain lots of revenue from their active participation in the wars as well. They play their part of THE boogeyman, like so many others play that part – politicians, banks, corps, WEF, CIA, Americans, on and on, pick a boogeyman and you too can play along.
Excellent point about this not really being about money. The controllers use that money to get their puppets to play along. The bastards use not only wealth, but poverty as well to get people to do their bidding. And you are correct that it is about total control.
Great to see you back ‘Search…been wondering how you were, and missing your material….glad you’re good.
So is Seth Rich alive and well and living in South America along with the Nazis?
Mentioning the Hegelian dialectic seems impressive until one realizes that the dialectic of itself does not “use the creation of fictional narratives” to divide populations. Such theses leave little room for synthesis.
On the other hand, accusing “anything or anyone allegedly involved with Wikileaks” of being “controlled opposition” (that shibboleth again) is spreading true disinformation. Tell it to Julian Assange in his cell while looking him straight in the eye!
There cannot today exist a cryptocracy, because we know who the plutocrats and their servants are. (Were Napoleon Bonaparte or Ivan the Terrible members of a cryptocracy?)
Wars have been waged throughout history to gain control of resources, territory, slaves and, yes, to “depopulate”. And, while it’s true that some wars such as wars of religion waged against groups within a population (“heretics”, “schismatics”) were in reality aimed at eliminating rivals of the established Church and/or appropriating their land and wealth, to my knowledge no war has ever been waged by a state with the express purpose of reducing its own population and weakening itself, as your comment seems to imply (though this could conceivably figure in the plans of the supranational state now taking form). Not even in Ukraine, in what was essentially a civil war until Russia intervened, where the government attempts to crush its own Russian-speaking population, has depopulation in the strictest sense of the word been applied. And while terror and depopulation were integral to both Genghis Khan’s and Hitler’s invasions, these were carried out for primarily tactical reasons. The Mongols terrorized cities into surrender by their massacres of those cities that refused to surrender to them, and depopulated to clear the way of any opposition that might reform in the wake of their conquests and block the path home of their loot-laden armies. The Germans during WWII used fear of reprisals to keep down populations of occupied territories, while conveniently clearing them of “inferior races”. Complaining that “wars aren’t logical” isn’t… logical. Wars and revolutions are eminently logical to those who plan and wage them.
In your reply to another comment, you further claim that even the Iranian Revolution of 1978-79 was some kind of fix or fraud. One can only imagine you believe the Ayatollah to have been an agent of the cryptocracy and the overthrow of the Shah (put in place by the CIA) a secret operation to dispose of a no-longer useful tool (even if Kissinger stilled loved him). Or that the whole thing was a false flag or psyop. But where’s the evidence?
What’s being passed off here as coolly cynical knowing strikes me as paralysis of thought. The record’s stuck in a single groove. Not absolute nonsense, but nonsense, nonetheless. And just the thing to further the chaos. I, for one, am not falling for it.
Most importantly, they want your emotional ‘response’ data which military-intelligence then aggregate and use to create the most effective follow-up ‘stimulus’ event.
Substack is a great example where specific writers are paid in advance (link) to push a certain narrative. The readers think they are reading an organic article & provide vast amounts of gratuitous emotional data.
The “leak” is meant to increase support for the Restrict Act. Controlled opposition.
ALSO: Russia Is Selling Ukraine “the vitally needed diesel fuel that is keeping the Ukrainian army on the move in its war with Russia.”
https://www.truth11.com/untitled-994/
I suppose the purpose of the leaks is the same as why our country’s leader should be a senile old man– who btw is NOT Joe Biden but a not-very-good double pretending to be witless, too. What is the purpose in having a country’s leader look weak & weak-minded? What is the purpose in exposing a country’s corrupt motives? Of displaying to potential and actual allies that the country is unable and unwilling to consistently support an ally, and unable to keep documents secret.
It’s enough to give even citizens of the country a disgust of the country’s malevolent and incompetent intents.
TPTB are bringing down the developed countries in order to more easily merge all together in their NWO. The US must vanish as a world power if they’re to bring in the NWO.
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However an even larger motive behind this idiot story may be simple distraction from the destruction of the food supply. Surely the mRNA vaxxing of livestock will destroy their immune system, too– opening the way for massive hoof & mouth disease, avian diseases, etc.
Btw, all that Ukrainian grain Russia and Europe are fighting over? Appears it’s been rendered poisonous– to much pesticide, damp storage leading to mold, etc.
So where’s the “real” Joe Biden?
Does it matter?
He’s out looking for Hillary Clinton to congratulate her on her presidential win.
So true, Penelope. I guess we will just have to stay strong and ride out the storm together.
It’s the ‘incompetence’ program which most people are running. They are not really evil they are just really incompetent. And covid was just really badly mismanaged!
If the Special Investigative Commission Report farce is still being trotted out, in about six or seven years the public will learn that “Mistakes were made.” 😡
“Donbass Devushka” (‘Donbass Girl’) I thought was an interesting part of the saga. One of the Telegram channels where some leaked files turned up.
Turns out she’s not from the Donbass at all but is based in the US …
Social-Media Account Overseen by Former Navy Noncommissioned Officer Helped Spread Secrets
https://archive.is/ctkzo
(the original WSJ article may been pulled, or changed its location (?))
A lot of people I follow have been suspicious of these leaks, including some who made a lot of fuss about the true nothing burger narrative that was the Twitter files. The media’s quickness to control the narrative around these leaks makes me inclined to agree. But there might be something a little more complex going on. For example, it could be that it was a genuine leak, just one that doesn’t include enough truly sensitive material to really make the American “security” apparatus feel threatened and is easily instrumentalized to further crack down on leaks and dissidence.In any case, just because the widely-reported-on parts don’t give us any radically novel insight doesn’t mean that there’s nothing interesting in the leaks.US considering helping israel against Iran in exchange for lethal aid to Ukraine:https://news.antiwar.com/2023/04/10/intel-leak-us-considering-helping-israel-against-iran-for-ukraine-lethal-aid/Mossad promoting the anti-judicial-reform protests in Israel and denying the authenticity of the information in the leaks:https://www.axios.com/2023/04/11/pentagon-document-leak-israel-us-mossad-ukraine
Have any files about the twin towers (what a sweet name) or the London bombings been leaked….. I thought not.
That’s where the rubber meets the road.
Two key points not mentioned here:
-the “leaks” occurred in two phases: 40-50 (publicly available) + “300” reported to exist.
-the unfolding of the reporting more important than the substance of the “leaks”.
a) firstly there were about 40-50 images circulating widely in late March that mostly centred on the military situation in Ukraine. The media were not talking about them at time. This first set are all over the place. There is no new info in them that independent analysts have not already pointed out but they specifically contradict the official narrative that Ukraine is winning, Russia is losing and NATO is totally not involved…..
One can debate how accurate the details are and who doctored what but in total they paint a comprehensive picture. Most of the world first noticed them before the MSM started squawking. They were mostly on Telegram and such.
The Russian MSM media and pro Russia independent analysts almost immediately dismissed them as “disinfo” probably because the info on Russia vs Ukraine strengths, in their view was highly inaccurate in some respects.
At this point, I too was inclined to be believe it was some sort of disinfo thing, possibly deliberate, possibly not… but nothing important in any case.
Reuter’s of course reported it initially as a “Russian psyop”.
b) but then….that totally unconnected to alphabet agencies group Bellingcat jumped into the fray which is always eyebrow raising. The original Bellingcat explantion suggested that the point of departure of the info into the public domain involved Discord servers: Minecraft Earth and Wowmao, a fan group for some Filipino youtuber……and 4chan of course.
b) Wapo jumped onto the bandwagon with their 17 year old interviewee (how convenient that “minor” reading off his script never needed to show his face) who described the leaker as “OG”, a right wing, gun loving Christian…. and “Thus Shaker Central” was described as both racist and anti-semitic….
At this point, I got the sense that the Nuland faction driving the Ukraine war was highly embarrassed by the leaks and that in fact, the original leak was a real leak by some high up faction against the war. So the Nuland gang jumped into damage control with Bellingcat, Wapo, Guardian, NYT. Some of the specific info in the original leak was questionable but by and large it had been embarrassing in how it contradicted the narrative.
In very coordinated fashion, the above outlets started talking about another 300 slides that nobody but they have seen (unlike the first 50 that anyone can see if they search but on MSM are always shown blurred out. To the extent that MSM talk of the substance of the leaks they only talk about the imaginary 300 slides relating to China, Egypt, S Korea, Israel, Serbia and UAE and nothing about the 50 relating to Ukraine and NATO forces in Ukraine….
The stupidity of the cover story and the involvement of Bellingcat et al that makes me think (for now) that perhaps the original leak was actually a leak that the Nuland gang did not want out there.
And both factions will be served well by the Restrict Act and more surveillance of social media….
As with Nordstream the absurdity of the damage control story draws more attention to the thing that they were trying to distract from. Not that anything will change. Patsy found. Case closed.
Much of the drama happened on 7th April from what I saw. There was a 4chan thread that day in which around 20 photos were shared and Twitter investigation on the same day (invovling Bellingcat, DoD etc).
Which lead to identifying the Minecraft leak (a young, possibly Polish, guy who’d earlier posted around 10 files on that discord server), and via his information, to the ‘wowmao youtuber’ leaks (around 30 files by a poster named ‘Lucca’). ‘Lucca’ revealed that he got the files from ‘a now banned server’ (with an unrepeatable name in polite company). And from there, presumably, the trail lead to ‘OG’.
The “300” refers, I believe, to other images that may have been shared on the Discord servers. Only the admins there (and law inforcement) would know the exact number
There was only one blatantly doctored image, where the numbers were changed, which likely lead to the Reuters’ Russian disinfo story.
I’ve not seen the interview yet, so can’t comment on that
In terms of what they mean overall though, it’s difficult to say, since it’s such a narrow snapshot in time (mostly from 1 March) and much is now out of date. Much too, was already obvious from mainstream media, aside from a few numbers, adding a bit of padding.
Which may explain why the media is allowed to make as much of a mountain out of a molehill as they like. My current take, anyhow …
I would rather suggest that April 7 is when the damage control campaign geared up. The original slides were circulating on Ukraine conflict military analysis Telegram channels in late March and early April without media attention. Because NATO monitors those channels, they became aware of the leak.
The earliest slides are from Feb 1 and together the slides cover almost six weeks. The original 40-50 slide leak focuses exclusively on the military situation in Ukraine with 1 para on S Korea, a page on Israel and a couple of bullet points on China and the UN. There is no doubt the slides are damaging because they contradict the official narrative in a very embarrassing way. If it’s a controlled leak you have to ask why they would put themselves through this much humiliation to achieve objectives (Restrict Act etc,) that could have been achieved in other ways.
For instance, the sides show
-that JDAMs have been a failure
-that despite their huge spying apparatus, the US has “low confidence” in its assessment of Russian casualties and capabilities and that Ukraine is massaging the info they supply to the US
-that despite the hundreds of billions spent that NATO is losing
-that NATO is on the ground with numbers of officers from actual countries.
Of course the info was out of date, not all accurate and a lot was anyway known from open source but that’s not the point. The slides show that Lloyd Austin lied to a Congressional Committee under oath.
The entire Bellingcat / Wapo / Discord story is a load of concocted nonsense to explain away the embarrassing leaks. (It’s not a Polish guy, the patsy’s name is Texeira which is Portugese origin surname). The slides may have made their way to Discord and 4chan but if Bellingcat says that’s the original leak channel, then we know 100% that it is not where the original leak happened.
There’s no doubt that many of the original slides are so embarrassing that the US should just have stopped at claiming it was “Russian disinfo” and not to be taken seriously. It would have been better for them than acknowledging the slides are real.
After April 7, a few of the chosen outlets have released info from the “300 slides” that only they have seen which are embarrassing to Serbia, Egypt, UAE but they studiously avoid discussing the orginal 50 dealing with the losses in Ukraine.
For example, Deutsche Welle ran a story just four days ago talking about how sensational these leaks were but focusing only on the Egypt Russia connection in order to embarrass Egypt and keep them in line on the Sudan situation.
Within the “300 slides”, I suppose anyone can claim to have seen a ‘leak’ (that nobody else has) that says precisely what they’d like it to say.
With respect to the rest, that people have seen. The 48 (or so) main batch of slides known to exist:
The US may be wishing to bring the conflict to a close. To bring the 2 sides to the negotiating table. Revealing a few ‘home truths’ via leaks may have been considered the best approach. As revealing a few of one’s own faults can help to start patching up an argument.
Some have read the leaks as sending a message to Zelensky to start negotiating (via the weaknesses). And then there may be messages to the Russians to do the same. Such as ‘we know exactly where all your troops are at any time’ (without revealing the precise method).
Messages for recipients beyond Joe & Jane Public
As regards the leaks, conspiracies, ‘n all that jazz::
Discord’s take on things (for which I’m inclined to take their word):
https://discord.com/blog/our-response-to-the-pentagon-leaks
and earlier in the same article:
There were 2 posters (that I’m aware of) that leaked on Discord servers (for which there’s both screenshot and Twitter exchange evidence). A young guy ‘Sikers’ (Minecraft server, 10 files) and another named ‘Lucca’ (30 files on a ‘wowmao’ related server). Both claimed that they weren’t the original source of the images though. The 10 were a subset of the 30, so in total only around 30 files between the two. So, additional files must have come from elsewhere.
Which brings us to the Telegram/4Chan posts … who did those?
If such posters (CIA?) were aware of the earlier leaks, then they would have the perfect alibi, knowing that they could simply throw out a breadcrumb trail that would lead back to a suitable Discord fall guy. One theory, anyhow
COR 2022 003307 Form 38-Finding into Death without Inquest-Approved.pdf (coronerscourt.vic.gov.au) Yet sometimes things actually do happen and are actually leaked without expectation of anything much other than justice.
This is what passes for a covid death in Australia – they claim it was covid but the only like was a fake PCR AFTER HE ENTERED HOSPITAL.. Dr Young provided an opinion that the medical cause of death was from 1 (a) aspiration pneumonia and non-ST elevation myocardial infarction in a man with an intellectual disability. This was accepted by the coroner as natural death yet crackpots on twitter are bemoaning the ”covid” death which the coroner stated clearly had nothing to do with anything.