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OPEN LETTER: Belgian Healthcare Workers Call for End to Lockdown

We, Belgian doctors and health professionals, wish to express our serious concern about the evolution of the situation in the recent months surrounding the outbreak of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

We call on politicians to be independently and critically informed in the decision-making process and in the compulsory implementation of corona-measures. We ask for an open debate, where all experts are represented without any form of censorship.

After the initial panic surrounding covid-19, the objective facts now show a completely different picture – there is no medical justification for any emergency policy anymore.

The current crisis management has become totally disproportionate and causes more damage than it does any good.

We call for an end to all measures and ask for an immediate restoration of our normal democratic governance and legal structures and of all our civil liberties.

‘A cure must not be worse than the problem’ is a thesis that is more relevant than ever in the current situation. We note, however, that the collateral damage now being caused to the population will have a greater impact in the short and long term on all sections of the population than the number of people now being safeguarded from corona.

In our opinion, the current corona measures and the strict penalties for non-compliance with them are contrary to the values formulated by the Belgian Supreme Health Council, which, until recently, as the health authority, has always ensured quality medicine in our country: “Science – Expertise – Quality – Impartiality – Independence – Transparency”.

We believe that the policy has introduced mandatory measures that are not sufficiently scientifically based, unilaterally directed, and that there is not enough space in the media for an open debate in which different views and opinions are heard. In addition, each municipality and province now has the authorisation to add its own measures, whether well-founded or not.

Moreover, the strict repressive policy on corona strongly contrasts with the government’s minimal policy when it comes to disease prevention, strengthening our own immune system through a healthy lifestyle, optimal care with attention for the individual and investment in care personnel.

The concept of health

In 1948, the WHO defined health as follows:

Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or other physical impairment.”

Health, therefore, is a broad concept that goes beyond the physical and also relates to the emotional and social well-being of the individual. Belgium also has a duty, from the point of view of subscribing to fundamental human rights, to include these human rights in its decision-making when it comes to measures taken in the context of public health.

The current global measures taken to combat SARS-CoV-2 violate to a large extent this view of health and human rights. Measures include compulsory wearing of a mask (also in open air and during sporting activities, and in some municipalities even when there are no other people in the vicinity), physical distancing, social isolation, compulsory quarantine for some groups and hygiene measures.

The predicted pandemic with millions of deaths

At the beginning of the pandemic, the measures were understandable and widely supported, even if there were differences in implementation in the countries around us. The WHO originally predicted a pandemic that would claim 3.4% victims, in other words millions of deaths, and a highly contagious virus for which no treatment or vaccine was available. This would put unprecedented pressure on the intensive care units (ICUs) of our hospitals.

This led to a global alarm situation, never seen in the history of mankind: “flatten the curve” was represented by a lockdown that shut down the entire society and economy and quarantined healthy people. Social distancing became the new normal in anticipation of a rescue vaccine.

The facts about covid-19

Gradually, the alarm bell was sounded from many sources: the objective facts showed a completely different reality.

The course of covid-19 followed the course of a normal wave of infection similar to a flu season. As every year, we see a mix of flu viruses following the curve: first the rhinoviruses, then the influenza A and B viruses, followed by the coronaviruses. There is nothing different from what we normally see.

The use of the non-specific PCR test, which produces many false positives, showed an exponential picture. This test was rushed through with an emergency procedure and was never seriously self-tested. The creator expressly warned that this test was intended for research and not for diagnostics.

The PCR test works with cycles of amplification of genetic material – a piece of genome is amplified each time. Any contamination (e.g. other viruses, debris from old virus genomes) can possibly result in false positives.

The test does not measure how many viruses are present in the sample. A real viral infection means a massive presence of viruses, the so-called virus load. If someone tests positive, this does not mean that that person is actually clinically infected, is ill or is going to become ill. Koch’s postulate was not fulfilled (“The pure agent found in a patient with complaints can provoke the same complaints in a healthy person”).

Since a positive PCR test does not automatically indicate active infection or infectivity, this does not justify the social measures taken, which are based solely on these tests.

Lockdown

If we compare the waves of infection in countries with strict lockdown policies to countries that did not impose lockdowns (Sweden, Iceland …), we see similar curves. So there is no link between the imposed lockdown and the course of the infection. Lockdown has not led to a lower mortality rate.

If we look at the date of application of the imposed lockdowns we see that the lockdowns were set after the peak was already over and the number of cases decreasing. The drop was therefore not the result of the taken measures.

As every year, it seems that climatic conditions (weather, temperature and humidity) and growing immunity are more likely to reduce the wave of infection.

Our immune system

For thousands of years, the human body has been exposed daily to moisture and droplets containing infectious microorganisms (viruses, bacteria and fungi).

The penetration of these microorganisms is prevented by an advanced defence mechanism – the immune system. A strong immune system relies on normal daily exposure to these microbial influences. Overly hygienic measures have a detrimental effect on our immunity. Only people with a weak or faulty immune system should be protected by extensive hygiene or social distancing.

Influenza will re-emerge in the autumn (in combination with covid-19) and a possible decrease in natural resilience may lead to further casualties.

Our immune system consists of two parts: a congenital, non-specific immune system and an adaptive immune system.

The non-specific immune system forms a first barrier: skin, saliva, gastric juice, intestinal mucus, vibratory hair cells, commensal flora…and prevents the attachment of micro-organisms to tissue.

If they do attach, macrophages can cause the microorganisms to be encapsulated and destroyed.

The adaptive immune system consists of mucosal immunity (IgA antibodies, mainly produced by cells in the intestines and lung epithelium), cellular immunity (T-cell activation), which can be generated in contact with foreign substances or microorganisms, and humoral immunity (IgM and IgG antibodies produced by the B cells).

Recent research shows that both systems are highly entangled.

It appears that most people already have a congenital or general immunity to e.g. influenza and other viruses. This is confirmed by the findings on the cruise ship Diamond Princess, which was quarantined because of a few passengers who died of Covid-19. Most of the passengers were elderly and were in an ideal situation of transmission on the ship. However, 75% did not appear to be infected. So even in this high-risk group, the majority are resistant to the virus.

A study in the journal Cell shows that most people neutralise the coronavirus by mucosal (IgA) and cellular immunity (T-cells), while experiencing few or no symptoms.

Researchers found up to 60% SARS-Cov-2 reactivity with CD4+T cells in a non-infected population, suggesting cross-reactivity with other cold (corona) viruses.

Most people therefore already have a congenital or cross-immunity because they were already in contact with variants of the same virus.

The antibody formation (IgM and IgG) by B-cells only occupies a relatively small part of our immune system. This may explain why, with an antibody percentage of 5-10%, there may be a group immunity anyway. The efficacy of vaccines is assessed precisely on the basis of whether or not we have these antibodies. This is a misrepresentation.

Most people who test positive (PCR) have no complaints. Their immune system is strong enough. Strengthening natural immunity is a much more logical approach. Prevention is an important, insufficiently highlighted pillar: healthy, full-fledged nutrition, exercise in fresh air, without a mask, stress reduction and nourishing emotional and social contacts.

Consequences of social isolation on physical and mental health

Social isolation and economic damage led to an increase in depression, anxiety, suicides, intra-family violence and child abuse.

Studies have shown that the more social and emotional commitments people have, the more resistant they are to viruses. It is much more likely that isolation and quarantine have fatal consequences.

The isolation measures have also led to physical inactivity in many older people due to their being forced to stay indoors. However, sufficient exercise has a positive effect on cognitive functioning, reducing depressive complaints and anxiety and improving physical health, energy levels, well-being and, in general, quality of life.

Fear, persistent stress and loneliness induced by social distancing have a proven negative influence on psychological and general health.

A highly contagious virus with millions of deaths without any treatment?

Mortality turned out to be many times lower than expected and close to that of a normal seasonal flu (0.2%).

The number of registered corona deaths therefore still seems to be overestimated.

There is a difference between death by corona and death with corona. Humans are often carriers of multiple viruses and potentially pathogenic bacteria at the same time. Taking into account the fact that most people who developed serious symptoms suffered from additional pathology, one cannot simply conclude that the corona-infection was the cause of death. This was mostly not taken into account in the statistics.

The most vulnerable groups can be clearly identified. The vast majority of deceased patients were 80 years of age or older. The majority (70%) of the deceased, younger than 70 years, had an underlying disorder, such as cardiovascular suffering, diabetes mellitus, chronic lung disease or obesity. The vast majority of infected persons (>98%) did not or hardly became ill or recovered spontaneously.

Meanwhile, there is an affordable, safe and efficient therapy available for those who do show severe symptoms of disease in the form of HCQ (hydroxychloroquine), zinc and azithromycin. Rapidly applied this therapy leads to recovery and often prevents hospitalisation. Hardly anyone has to die now.

This effective therapy has been confirmed by the clinical experience of colleagues in the field with impressive results. This contrasts sharply with the theoretical criticism (insufficient substantiation by double-blind studies) which in some countries (e.g. the Netherlands) has even led to a ban on this therapy.

A meta-analysis in The Lancet, which could not demonstrate an effect of HCQ, was withdrawn. The primary data sources used proved to be unreliable and 2 out of 3 authors were in conflict of interest. However, most of the guidelines based on this study remained unchanged…We have serious questions about this state of affairs.

In the US, a group of doctors in the field, who see patients on a daily basis, united in “America’s Frontline Doctors” and gave a press conference which has been watched millions of times.

French Prof Didier Raoult of the Institut d’Infectiologie de Marseille (IHU) also presented this promising combination therapy as early as April. Dutch GP Rob Elens, who cured many patients in his practice with HCQ and zinc, called on colleagues in a petition for freedom of therapy.

The definitive evidence comes from the epidemiological follow-up in Switzerland: mortality rates compared with and without this therapy.

From the distressing media images of ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome) where people were suffocating and given artificial respiration in agony, we now know that this was caused by an exaggerated immune response with intravascular coagulation in the pulmonary blood vessels.

The administration of blood thinners and dexamethasone and the avoidance of artificial ventilation, which was found to cause additional damage to lung tissue, means that this dreaded complication, too, is virtually not fatal anymore.

It is therefore not a killer virus, but a well-treatable condition.

Propagation

Spreading occurs by drip infection (only for patients who cough or sneeze) and aerosols in closed, unventilated rooms. Contamination is therefore not possible in the open air. Contact tracing and epidemiological studies show that healthy people (or positively tested asymptomatic carriers) are virtually unable to transmit the virus. Healthy people therefore do not put each other at risk.

Transfer via objects (e.g. money, shopping or shopping trolleys) has not been scientifically proven.

All this seriously calls into question the whole policy of social distancing and compulsory mouth masks for healthy people – there is no scientific basis for this.

Masks

Oral masks belong in contexts where contacts with proven at-risk groups or people with upper respiratory complaints take place, and in a medical context/hospital-retirement home setting. They reduce the risk of droplet infection by sneezing or coughing. Oral masks in healthy individuals are ineffective against the spread of viral infections.

Wearing a mask is not without side effects. Oxygen deficiency (headache, nausea, fatigue, loss of concentration) occurs fairly quickly, an effect similar to altitude sickness. Every day we now see patients complaining of headaches, sinus problems, respiratory problems and hyperventilation due to wearing masks. In addition, the accumulated CO2 leads to a toxic acidification of the organism which affects our immunity. Some experts even warn of an increased transmission of the virus in case of inappropriate use of the mask.

Our Labour Code (Codex 6) refers to a CO2 content (ventilation in workplaces) of 900 ppm, maximum 1200 ppm in special circumstances. After wearing a mask for one minute, this toxic limit is considerably exceeded to values that are three to four times higher than these maximum values. Anyone who wears a mask is therefore in an extreme poorly ventilated room.

Inappropriate use of masks without a comprehensive medical cardio-pulmonary test file is therefore not recommended by recognised safety specialists for workers.

Hospitals have a sterile environment in their operating rooms where staff wear masks and there is precise regulation of humidity / temperature with appropriately monitored oxygen flow to compensate for this, thus meeting strict safety standards.

A second corona wave?

A second wave is now being discussed in Belgium, with a further tightening of the measures as a result. However, closer examination of Sciensano’s figures37 shows that, although there has been an increase in the number of infections since mid-July, there was no increase in hospital admissions or deaths at that time. It is therefore not a second wave of corona, but a so-called “case chemistry” due to an increased number of tests.

The number of hospital admissions or deaths showed a shortlasting minimal increase in recent weeks, but in interpreting it, we must take into account the recent heatwave. In addition, the vast majority of the victims are still in the population group >75 years.

This indicates that the proportion of the measures taken in relation to the working population and young people is disproportionate to the intended objectives.

The vast majority of the positively tested “infected” persons are in the age group of the active population, which does not develop any or merely limited symptoms, due to a well-functioning immune system.

So nothing has changed – the peak is over.

Strengthening a prevention policy

The corona measures form a striking contrast to the minimal policy pursued by the government until now, when it comes to well-founded measures with proven health benefits such as the sugar tax, the ban on (e-)cigarettes and making healthy food, exercise and social support networks financially attractive and widely accessible.

It is a missed opportunity for a better prevention policy that could have brought about a change in mentality in all sections of the population with clear results in terms of public health. At present, only 3% of the health care budget goes to prevention.

The Hippocratic Oath

As a doctor, we took the Hippocratic Oath:

I will above all care for my patients, promote their health and alleviate their suffering”.

I will inform my patients correctly.”

Even under pressure, I will not use my medical knowledge for practices that are against humanity.”

The current measures force us to act against this oath. Other health professionals have a similar code.

The primum non nocere, which every doctor and health professional assumes, is also undermined by the current measures and by the prospect of the possible introduction of a generalised vaccine, which is not subject to extensive prior testing.

Vaccine

Survey studies on influenza vaccinations show that in 10 years we have only succeeded three times in developing a vaccine with an efficiency rate of more than 50%. Vaccinating our elderly appears to be inefficient. Over 75 years of age, the efficacy is almost non-existent.

Due to the continuous natural mutation of viruses, as we also see every year in the case of the influenza virus, a vaccine is at most a temporary solution, which requires new vaccines each time afterwards. An untested vaccine, which is implemented by emergency procedure and for which the manufacturers have already obtained legal immunity from possible harm, raises serious questions. We do not wish to use our patients as guinea pigs.

On a global scale, 700 000 cases of damage or death are expected as a result of the vaccine.

If 95% of people experience Covid-19 virtually symptom-free, the risk of exposure to an untested vaccine is irresponsible.

The role of the media and the official communication plan

Over the past few months, newspaper, radio and TV makers seemed to stand almost uncritically behind the panel of experts and the government, there, where it is precisely the press that should be critical and prevent one-sided governmental communication. This has led to a public communication in our news media, that was more like propaganda than objective reporting.

In our opinion, it is the task of journalism to bring news as objectively and neutrally as possible, aimed at finding the truth and critically controlling power, with dissenting experts also being given a forum in which to express themselves.

This view is supported by the journalistic codes of ethics.

The official story that a lockdown was necessary, that this was the only possible solution, and that everyone stood behind this lockdown, made it difficult for people with a different view, as well as experts, to express a different opinion.

Alternative opinions were ignored or ridiculed. We have not seen open debates in the media, where different views could be expressed.

We were also surprised by the many videos and articles by many scientific experts and authorities, which were and are still being removed from social media. We feel that this does not fit in with a free, democratic constitutional state, all the more so as it leads to tunnel vision. This policy also has a paralysing effect and feeds fear and concern in society. In this context, we reject the intention of censorship of dissidents in the European Union!

The way in which Covid-19 has been portrayed by politicians and the media has not done the situation any good either. War terms were popular and warlike language was not lacking. There has often been mention of a ‘war’ with an ‘invisible enemy’ who has to be ‘defeated’. The use in the media of phrases such as ‘care heroes in the front line’ and ‘corona victims’ has further fuelled fear, as has the idea that we are globally dealing with a ‘killer virus’.

The relentless bombardment with figures, that were unleashed on the population day after day, hour after hour, without interpreting those figures, without comparing them to flu deaths in other years, without comparing them to deaths from other causes, has induced a real psychosis of fear in the population. This is not information, this is manipulation.

We deplore the role of the WHO in this, which has called for the “infodemic” (i.e. all divergent opinions from the official discourse, including by experts with different views) to be silenced by an unprecedented media censorship.

We urgently call on the media to take their responsibilities here!

We demand an open debate in which all experts are heard.

Emergency law versus Human Rights

The general principle of good governance calls for the proportionality of government decisions to be weighed up in the light of the Higher Legal Standards: any interference by government must comply with the fundamental rights as protected in the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). Interference by public authorities is only permitted in crisis situations.

In other words, discretionary decisions must be proportionate to an absolute necessity.

The measures currently taken concern interference in the exercise of, among other things, the right to respect of private and family life, freedom of thought, conscience and religion, freedom of expression and freedom of assembly and association, the right to education, etc., and must therefore comply with fundamental rights as protected by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).

For example, in accordance with Article 8(2) of the ECHR, interference with the right to private and family life is permissible only if the measures are necessary in the interests of national security, public safety, the economic well-being of the country, the protection of public order and the prevention of criminal offences, the protection of health or the protection of the rights and freedoms of others, the regulatory text on which the interference is based must be sufficiently clear, foreseeable and proportionate to the objectives pursued.

The predicted pandemic of millions of deaths seemed to respond to these crisis conditions, leading to the establishment of an emergency government. Now that the objective facts show something completely different, the condition of inability to act otherwise (no time to evaluate thoroughly if there is an emergency) is no longer in place. Covid-19 is not a cold virus, but a well treatable condition with a mortality rate comparable to the seasonal flu. In other words, there is no longer an insurmountable obstacle to public health.

There is no state of emergency.

Immense damage caused by the current policies

An open discussion on corona measures means that, in addition to the years of life gained by corona patients, we must also take into account other factors affecting the health of the entire population. These include damage in the psychosocial domain (increase in depression, anxiety, suicides, intra-family violence and child abuse)16 and economic damage.

If we take this collateral damage into account, the current policy is out of all proportion, the proverbial use of a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

We find it shocking that the government is invoking health as a reason for the emergency law.

As doctors and health professionals, in the face of a virus which, in terms of its harmfulness, mortality and transmissibility, approaches the seasonal influenza, we can only reject these extremely disproportionate measures.

We therefore demand an immediate end to all measures.

We are questioning the legitimacy of the current advisory experts, who meet behind closed doors.

Following on from ACU 2020 we call for an in-depth examination of the role of the WHO and the possible influence of conflicts of interest in this organisation. It was also at the heart of the fight against the “infodemic”, i.e. the systematic censorship of all dissenting opinions in the media. This is unacceptable for a democratic state governed by the rule of law.

Distribution of this letter

We would like to make a public appeal to our professional associations and fellow carers to give their opinion on the current measures.

We draw attention to and call for an open discussion in which carers can and dare to speak out.

With this open letter, we send out the signal that progress on the same footing does more harm than good, and call on politicians to inform themselves independently and critically about the available evidence – including that from experts with different views, as long as it is based on sound science – when rolling out a policy, with the aim of promoting optimum health.

With concern, hope and in a personal capacity.

This open letter was first published on Docs4OpenDebate on the 5th of September (and then updated on the 21st). For a full list of signatories click here, and there are also versions in Dutch or French.

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Clothcap
Clothcap
Oct 3, 2020 7:48 PM

As effective as the Stop 5g petition campaign. As effective as British and Canadian protests. Why are the politicians not responding?
Because they are using the hoax coronavirus to instil fear so the satanic UN world gov wannabe can impose a Fascist rule on a worldwide Communised population via what the people have mistakenly believed is their government, using psychological trickery.
Of course the experts will be ignored as they were for the 9/11, 7/7, Sandy Hook, CAGW by CO2, and the rest of the false flagswhere an exercise was converted to the real deal except the terrorist were the intelligence agency corporations.
It’s like appealing to a snake to become vegetarian.

David Eire
David Eire
Oct 3, 2020 5:45 PM

The current disproportionate & misguided polices on Covid-19 are a powerful example of the power of mind control by Corporate & Social Media. All around me I see people who believe the pandemic narrative even when there are almost zero deaths in my country.

dada
dada
Oct 1, 2020 12:24 AM

Over the past few months, newspaper, radio and TV makers seemed to stand almost uncritically behind the panel of experts and the government, there, where it is precisely the press that should be critical and prevent one-sided governmental communication. This has led to a public communication in our news media, that was more like propaganda than objective reporting

Funny how that seems to play out in every country the same. Germany, Netherlands, UK, Switzerland, Denmark where all of a sudden the News Media tows 100% the govt line as advised in Event 201. Who the fugg bribed ALL news media on the entire planet? How much did they pay? Ahh i get it the news media is owned by the same people who ran EVENT 201 and are now planning the great reset!

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 1, 2020 3:08 AM
Reply to  dada

It looks to me like they achieved it simply by beginning, decades ago, to plant only certain types of people in key positions in western administrations and their off-shoot departments. Those people are, after all, recognizable types by now.
The decent, intelligent, wise, aware people – those who pay attention – were simply screened out by the selection panels.
That’s how I would have achieved it at any rate, had I been a snake.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 1, 2020 8:07 AM
Reply to  dada

Operation Mockingbird is a few decades old. Common Purpuse may be an international version.

livingsb
livingsb
Oct 1, 2020 12:24 AM

The time for letters is long past. It is time for action.

John Goss
John Goss
Sep 30, 2020 6:56 PM

Two days ago I tried to get an appointment at the local medical practice. In the end I gave up. Today I printed off the above open letter from medical personnel in Belgium and took it to the surgery together with a covering note suggesting the surgery was like a prison and all over the country people are failing to get appointments through followiing the government nonsense. I hope others will do the same. Our GPs by and large have let us down. Not Dr Malcolm Kendrick though.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/28/false-positive-tests/

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 30, 2020 10:12 PM
Reply to  John Goss

I wonder if Dr Kendrick is prepared to take on 60million new patients!!

John
John
Sep 30, 2020 11:17 PM
Reply to  John Goss

Thank you for doing that.

This whole thing is a nightmare. Some anti-lockdown voices I’ve followed seem to have an agenda of their own. I had reservations about Anna Brees. Today she’s been giving a platform to Steve Bannon and religion. I don’t trust her.

Loverat
Loverat
Oct 1, 2020 12:33 AM
Reply to  John

I think she’s being reasonable and open minded as we should. The other thing of course she is being carried along with fast moving events so a few miscalculations likely.

Very stressful time for all and increasingly looking there is something sinister going on in the background. People will naturally look towards religion to understand things. Right now, especially so.

John
John
Oct 1, 2020 12:40 AM
Reply to  Loverat

Using religion to understand things means the perpetrators (WEF, World Bank, Pharma, Gates, and whoever else is involved) gets away with it. It offers a religious response. If we all pray it will go away.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 1, 2020 3:02 AM
Reply to  John

Whatever your views on religion, it does at least deal with apocalyptic issues. It takes them seriously, and it names names when it comes to outright corruption.
Most of today’s people will want proof before they can believe that any sort of divine intervention could occur – fair enough, but there is more than enough demonic activity in our modern world for even the blindest of us to see it.
It’s always been like that. The good side of religion requires faith. The bad side is right there in your face.

geo
geo
Sep 30, 2020 4:00 PM

Here’s a protest idea for consideration. Get a face shield – the type of covering that has the vertical sheet of plastic hanging down – write on a strip of paper ‘Let’s all lock down together and wreck everything’ on it and tape it along the bottom of the vertical sheet for all to read. I find the shield not too bad as to dehumanization, ability to breathe etc.and think it could make a pretty good placard. By the way, I feel that all this C-19 trash is happening to take down our corrupt world. And it’s about time.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Sep 30, 2020 4:52 PM
Reply to  geo

I have seen the suggestion several times for a slogan to be written on face masks or other coverings, or to use some kind of symbolizm that mocks them. I agree but people are not doing it.

Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 7:15 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

I do! I’ve been not only writing protest messages on my masks, I’ve also been sticking protest messages next to “wear a mask” signs in public places. People REALLY should do it, it’s a very easy form of protest and it’s been more effective than I thought.

dada
dada
Oct 1, 2020 12:26 AM
Reply to  Someone

Don’t wear a fucking mask!

Someone
Someone
Oct 1, 2020 12:34 AM
Reply to  dada

Lol, easy to say so in a country where you can just self-identify as exempt. Where I live you can be fined up to 500€. I’m unemployed and an immigrant without a permanent visa. There’s NO WAY I can afford this.

geo
geo
Oct 1, 2020 4:32 PM
Reply to  Someone

Use a face shield, not a mask. Less dehumanizing.

Someone
Someone
Oct 2, 2020 5:42 AM
Reply to  geo

Yeah I’ve seen a lot of people saying it feels less dehumanising. How much does this thing cost,in average? I’ll give it a try.

geo
geo
Oct 2, 2020 4:54 PM
Reply to  Someone

I’m less sure today that my idea would have any effect on genuine insanity, which I see this lockdown stuff as rather than a mistake or hubris that can be corrected or dropped. But I paid $15 for the face shield. It was made in a small business that does laminating. I heard about it from a thrift store worker who used one all day.

Someone
Someone
Oct 3, 2020 3:33 PM
Reply to  geo

Thank you mate, I’ll look it up. By the way I found a trick for maskless train travel: just pretend – for as long as you can get away with it – that you’re eating or drinking. ALWAYS bring some food and water with you. I sat today opposite to a man who was clearly doing the same lmao. At some point we looked at each other and smiled in solidarity. That was brief but gave me a lot of strength.

LKing
LKing
Oct 1, 2020 3:25 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

I wear a mask, suggested by someone here, that says “Under Duress” across the front. I’ve made some friends with it.

geo
geo
Oct 1, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  LKing

But it’s still a mask. Today I’ll mask up because of forest fire smoke in the air, but otherwise absolutely not! Don’t compromise!

LKing
LKing
Oct 1, 2020 5:28 PM
Reply to  geo

Of course you are right. What do you do when you walk into a store and an employee yells/chases you down waving a surgical mask for you to put on? I’ve been stopped and told to cover my nose before I can pass. Haven’t had the balls to stand up to anyone yet. I do pull my mask down or keep it off completely sometimes, but sometimes it is very much being “policed” by either employees or other patrons.

geo
geo
Oct 1, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  LKing

I’m coming around to saying calmly and clearly, looking them right in the eye, ‘Medical exemption’, with the followup “I don’t have to prove anything to you’. It does take nerve.

J Reece
J Reece
Sep 30, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  geo

In a shopping mall I came across someone handing out slips of paper with the web address of this article (https://docs4opendebate.be/en/open-letter/)

This seems an excellent course of action, cheap, unthreatening, authoritative … The more people who know what thinking doctors really think, the better. There is also the similar initiative by a similarly large group of German doctors.

Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 8:44 PM
Reply to  J Reece

I first became aware of this group of German doctors because somebody “accidentally” dropped a piece of paper with their website and YouTube channel on the stairs of the building where I live (there are also offices in the building). After I learned what it was, I also “accidentally” left the piece of paper on a bench in the local shopping mall. A few minutes later it was gone. I’m telling this story to exemplify that, yes, these actions do reach people.

Another idea, if you live in an apartment building, is to anonymously drop leaflets into your neighbours’ mailboxes.

For me, this kind of offline action has been more effective than social media.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 30, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  Someone

I left a typed list of key websites on a folded slip of paper which I surreptitiously tucked behind the drop down tray in front of my seat in a train carriage. I felt like I was in a Liam Neeson or Bruce Willis film! Quite invigorating. I’ve been looking for other opportunities but few and far between.

Someone
Someone
Oct 1, 2020 1:01 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

Well done! I’ve also left some messages in trains. My experience is that as you practice doing this, the opportunities just start to unfold in front of your eyes. 😉 So keep up the good work!

Max
Max
Sep 30, 2020 1:56 PM

I think, and that’s my humble opinion, that the reason the government lets kids go back to school is that the kids have their best opportunity to get indoctrinated whilst the parents are not present, that includes wearing muzzles and anti-social distancing and so on. We have a large group of asthmatic people in this country (probably 20-30%) I don’t see any obvious claims of exemptions for the face covering rule.

John
John
Sep 30, 2020 12:12 PM

Do the people of Sweden and Belarus have any idea of the level of suffering and destruction that is happening outside their countries?
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Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 3:29 PM
Reply to  John

Also Nicaragua is doing very fine thank you without the whole BS.

John
John
Sep 30, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  Someone

All the BS needs scrapping yesterday.

No face masks.
No social distancing.
No quarantines.
No testing.
No track and tracing.
No rules about groups of people.
No curfews.
No QR codes.
Pay by cash.
No terrorism from SAGE.
No vaccines.

All the toxic insidious sh*te of the last 6 months needs scrapping with new protections introduced to prevent such tyranny from ever happening again.

However, some crucial new laws need introducing:

Laws that allow people to self isolate if they wish to. Some elderly people choose to take the risk not to isolate and to continue enjoying their lives. It’s their human right to choose.

Laws that block Government Ministers /MPs with conflicts of interest from meddling.

What is the point of being healthy if we cannot live our lives? I imagine the royal family are exempt from this tyranny.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 1, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  John

Laws that block Government Ministers /MPs with conflicts of interest from meddling.

And “advisors”, of course (e.g. Whitty, Vallance; probably Cummings if it comes to that).

kevin
kevin
Sep 30, 2020 8:35 PM
Reply to  Someone

Entry requirements for Nicaragua include PCR test, temperature check and even contact tracing. Still a lot of BS. I had a great time in Nicaragua a few years ago.

Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 8:53 PM
Reply to  kevin

Sure, but you can hardly enter ANY Latin American country now without this and a lot more. I know it because I’m a Latin American in Europe.
Nicaragua is still one of the most bullshit-free places for the people who already live there.

John Goss
John Goss
Sep 30, 2020 8:52 AM

We ask for an open debate, where all experts are represented without any form of censorship.”

This has been the problem from the start. No debate. No facts. Just government dictates.

John Goss
John Goss
Sep 30, 2020 9:29 AM
Reply to  John Goss

By the way, an excellent letter which I am sharing.

Arne
Arne
Sep 30, 2020 6:39 AM

The greatest proof of love is that one partner takes the
oath from the other: “Promise me not to cry but to cele-
brate when I die!” Then he wants the best for the other.
The worst is: “If you do not love me, I will kill myself!”

Arne
Arne
Sep 30, 2020 6:33 AM

“There is no sadder sight than a young pessimist,
except an old optimist.” Funny Twain quote with
which I only partially agree. I think that old people
also have a right to optimism. Why? Because it
does them good, is healthy and prolongs their
lives. That is “benefit” enough. Optimism means
making the best of everything (optimize, improve).

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Sep 30, 2020 3:18 PM
Reply to  Arne

Arne, I agree about the _need_ for optimism in old age. “Still Learning” by Goya.

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Or Titian at 90, “I’m learning how to paint!”

The saddest thing I ever read was the ending of Mark Twain’s autobiography: Pagliacci in F sharp minor with crosses everywhere in a graveyard universe.

Howard
Howard
Sep 30, 2020 5:08 PM
Reply to  Dr NG Maroudas

Love the Titian quote. Any artist worth his salt, if asked when he’s going to master his craft, should proudly reply “I would hate to think art is so threadbare it can be mastered in any one lifetime.”

Ort
Ort
Sep 30, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Howard

And then there’s this:

When Titian was grinding rose madder,
his model was posed on a ladder.
Her position to Titian
suggested coition
so he climbed up the ladder and had her.

Arne
Arne
Sep 30, 2020 6:20 AM

Since I am not an atheist, but an agnostic, I was never
a fan of Dawkins. But still it is questionable what is going
on here. Of all people, “Christians”, who have built up
an entire industry around migration, draw attention to it.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-richard-dawkins-canceled-by-oldest-student-debate-society.html

Arne
Arne
Sep 30, 2020 6:14 AM

Recently I saw an interview with a German East Asian diplomat who, when asked why East Asia, unlike Europe, coped with WW2 traumas in a completely different way: East Asians do not know collective guilt. What they know is shame (loss of face). He believes that our cultural suicide comes from Christianity, starting with the “original sin” from the Old Testament.

Arne
Arne
Sep 30, 2020 6:08 AM

Rightwing ideologues claim that globalists have instrumentalized the brains of white women, who are primarily calibrated to empathy. Out of maternal protective instinct, they invite their mortal enemies into their own nest, since their brains do not think rationally. There could be some truth in the theory that these women would not have tolerated millions of exotic women immigrating for our pleasure.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Sep 30, 2020 2:06 AM

Pandemic board game (2008)

Your team of experts must prevent the world from succumbing to a viral pandemic.

 Description

Components: Map (Global Scale) Components: Multi-Use Cards Game: Pandemic Medical: Diseases Occupation: Dispatcher Occupation: Medic / Doctor / Nurses

Pandemic Legacy: Season 0 Pandemic Legacy: Season 1 Pandemic Legacy: Season 2 Pandemic: Fall of Rome

In Pandemic, several virulent diseases have broken out simultaneously all over the world! The players are disease-fighting specialists whose mission is to treat disease hotspots while researching cures for each of four plagues before they get out of hand.

The game board depicts several major population centers on Earth. On each turn, a player can use up to four actions to travel between cities, treat infected populaces, discover a cure, or build a research station. A deck of cards provides the players with these abilities, but sprinkled throughout this deck are Epidemic! cards that accelerate and intensify the diseases’ activity. A second, separate deck of cards controls the “normal” spread of the infections.

Taking a unique role within the team, players must plan their strategy to mesh with their specialists’ strengths in order to conquer the diseases. For example, the Operations Expert can build research stations which are needed to find cures for the diseases and which allow for greater mobility between cities; the Scientist needs only four cards of a particular disease to cure it instead of the normal five—but the diseases are spreading quickly and time is running out. If one or more diseases spreads beyond recovery or if too much time elapses, the players all lose. If they cure the four diseases, they all win!

The 2013 edition of Pandemic includes two new characters—the Contingency Planner and the Quarantine Specialist—not available in earlier editions of the game.

Pandemic is the first game in the Pandemic series.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30549/pandemic

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Sep 30, 2020 2:52 PM
Reply to  Caltrop

Caltrop – I’m working on developing a “new board game” myself. The working title for it is – “Heads On A Pike” – although I haven’t ruled out calling it – “Hang The Bastards!”

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 1, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

How about: “Capitalist Punishment”?

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Oct 1, 2020 5:35 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Great suggestion. It never ceases to amaze me how Western elites can brutally torture and/or murder their own populations (from the Holy Inquisition to Operation Gladio); send us off to senseless wars for their own shameless war profiteering century after century (too many to count); all while brutalizing and pillaging the rest of the planet throughout 500+ years now of colonialism and now very thinly disguised neo-colonialsim – yet Western populations seem by and large to somehow valorize the uber-wealthy and powerful (the Musk’s and Gate’s of the world) as if they are some form of demi-gods to whom we should all be grateful to bow down to. Stockholm Syndrome perhaps?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 1, 2020 6:11 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Haha! The first one is the best.

timfrom
timfrom
Sep 30, 2020 1:16 AM

It might already have been noted (I’m not going through the comments to find out!), but I hear Belgium has just dropped PCR Testing.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Sep 30, 2020 4:58 AM
Reply to  timfrom

Source?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 30, 2020 5:17 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I saw that further down the thread as well Tom, might have been Moneycircus said that?

timfrom
timfrom
Sep 30, 2020 9:47 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Saw it somewhere in the last 24 hrs but of course now I can’t find it. Thanks for sparing my blushes, Gezzah!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 30, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  timfrom

I saw it on this thread – but now 444 comments here! You’re right coz I saw it myself.

Roberto
Roberto
Sep 30, 2020 12:16 AM

CDC publishes numbers known for months now, by many. I have been posting similar stats on Off-G for some time now, based on calculations of death numbers from various government websites around the world, which are consistently similar.

https://youtu.be/XxE2g8lby7o?t=60

Hopefully the video is not deleted by YT; one of Ron Paul’s was the other day, in accordance with a letter published by the WHO, which implores media, social media, etc to censor any facts or opinion contrary to WHO.
Meanwhile, Florida opens up, based on the CDC’s numbers.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 5:51 AM
Reply to  Roberto

Ron Paul was one of the first to call out covid as a hoax (see below). And it’s good to see him fully recovered again so quickly. (He had a stroke a few days ago.) In the first half of the Sep 28 video (Roberto’s post) they discuss Dr Scott Atlas, being Trump’s covid advisor since mid-August. See also, Laura Ingraham interview with Dr Scott Atlas (Sep 28):
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/29/open-letter-belgian-healthcare-workers-call-for-end-to-lockdown/#comment-248329

With regard to being censored for criticising the WHO (discussed toward the end of the Paul’s Sep 28 vid), Del Bigtree had his channel deleted for this “offence”, and it appears to be approaching some new doctrine of infallibility. Of course, it only applies during a “pandemic”, but who gets to define and declare a “pandemic” . . . ?

The Coronavirus Hoax
225,020 views
Mar 17, 2020
RonPaulLibertyReport
Authoritarian dream…

Roberto
Roberto
Sep 30, 2020 5:27 PM

It’s unbelievable that Dr Fauxi is still hanging around (but not getting the daily limelight he used to), and gets to say things like ‘even after there’s a vaccine, we’ll still have to wear masks and [anti]social distance’, presumably forever, because there’s no end to the trillions of viruses that could be employed to scare people into submission. At the same time, and after 10s of Billions of dollars in orders have been booked, the effectiveness of any saviour silver-bullet vaccine is suddenly diminished, based on past experience of success rates of zero to 50%. Dr Birx, while still on the bandwagon, but more in the background on roaming tours, has expressed concern because, as she said in one interview, ‘once people realise that over 99% of people are at no risk, it is becoming more difficult to convince them the ‘measures’ are necessary’, is at least aware that more people are becoming more aware.
It may be that those two are still around because they are such darlings of the scaremonger media and ‘top doctors'(?!) of many jurisdictions and the MSM would increase the anti-Trump propaganda (if that were possible) before the election should they be shelved. If Trump does win, they may well be gone the next day, to disappear back into the bureaucracy, make less mischief, and not have to admit they were wrong.

Just the fact that Dr Atlas was instantly attacked by the MSM is an indication the hoax is threatened, and the release of stats by the CDC confirms that. Fun brief video, including MSM Clown show clips:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6195495580001#sp=show-clips
Ironically, the silly notion of unnecessarily testing everyone, inflating the results, and calling infections ‘cases’ may actually prove the sensationalists wrong, because when the whole population is tested the true risk will finally be verified as the denominator grows exponentially. In fact, confirmed-by- symptoms infections, cases requiring some treatment, severe-cases, and deaths should have been just weighed against the whole population from the beginning, with the assumption made that the whole population was vulnerable to infection, albeit some 95% would never need treatment. 80% would never know they had it, and the other 15% would stay home for a few days, as they do with the flu every year.
At this time, in the States, although sentiment in the non-Democrat (and non-RINO) States is shifting, the remaining four of the ‘5 eyes’ are still on full throttle, and the nonsense continues and even increases as the mortality rate continues to be negligible as it has been for the last four months or so.
One wonders how the WHO, and national health bureaucracies managed to gain such power, and demonstrates again the dangers of centralism where one size fits all, and the regional and even individual doctors’ local experience is disregarded, while the individuals’ rights are subsumed into the ‘need’ for ‘collective good’, the idea that the population of the world is a group, an amorphous blob, its members existing under no differing characteristics or circumstances.
From the beginning of this event, doctors who have protested the extreme measures of collective disaster preparation and prevention have had their fact-based experiences and grievances ridiculed, suppressed, and a good many have had their careers destroyed, as happens when confronting all-powerful bureaucracies and their propagandists.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 1, 2020 7:59 AM
Reply to  Roberto

The Task Force is still officially running, but it will have very little influence on Trump. I think Fauci’s approval rating was about 75% back in April, but last time I saw it was below 50%.

btw: it took a long time for your comment appear out of the approval pipeline, and I think a couple of mine are still stuck in a blockage somewhere!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 1, 2020 9:09 AM

There’s an early September poll here:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/10/trust-cdc-fauci-evaporating/

The numbers for Fauci and the CDC are holding up better than I thought, but it shows the power of the msm. It states:

The public writ large still trusts Fauci to provide reliable information more than it trusts the CDC, the White House coronavirus coordinator Deborah Birx, President Trump, or former Vice President Joe Biden, according to the new poll. Trump is the least trusted out of the four: Just 40% of those surveyed said they trust Trump to provide reliable information about the pandemic. Fifty-two percent trust Biden.

Roberto
Roberto
Oct 1, 2020 5:21 PM

It may be Dr Fauxi’s croaky voice; the public may be charmed by his Godfather impression; the masses love that sort of thing, thus the success of movies of that genre.
Interesting that Trump nailed the media response hoax, and many other things early on, but nuanced his comments later, possibly the influence of ‘expert’ advice or maybe just the polls, and hesitation due to media misreporting.
One egregious example of that was his observation on UV treatment, when he later in the comment referred to as disinfectant, i.e. the disinfectant effect of the UV, and which in the media headlines became Lysol, bleach, etc, and which according to more media reports caused a stampede in the purchase of bleach(es), and the resultant warnings in the media against such actions (the well-known device of generating several alarming ‘stories’ from one misrepresentation). Of course, at that time, research was being conducted on the application of UV light internally, and lately continues, with promising effect. Its effectiveness on surfaces is well known.
Poor Mr Trump can’t really say anything without it being misreported or outright lied about.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 1, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  Roberto
Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 8:24 PM
wardropper
wardropper
Oct 1, 2020 2:42 AM

A decent man, and a bright one.
The man who could have been president if the mainstream morons hadn’t been so desperately scared of him.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 29, 2020 11:07 PM

Quote: “A study published Thursday shows how a bird flu virus that’s sickening and killing people in China could mutate to potentially become more contagious.”

Excerpted from: A Few Genetic Tweaks To Chinese Bird Flu Virus Could Fuel A Human Pandemic
June 15, 2017
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/15/532925945/just-small-genetic-tweaks-to-chinese-bird-flu-virus-could-fuel-a-human-pandemic

“One way of finding out would be to test the effect of these mutations in the actual H7N9 virus. And he and a colleague did put in a proposal to the National Institutes of Health to modify the virus to explore what changes could make it transmissible among lab animals.

“And then the moratorium came out and so it wasn’t reviewed,” says Paulson.”
Ya right. Wink, wink…

All of these “experiments” are planned economic warfare, and we’re the test…

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 30, 2020 7:07 AM

Moratorium my foot. This happened in 2015:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 10:05 PM

When I check social media and independent news media for the latest about Covid, I don’t think of it as a virus issue. I see it as a war being waged on the people by their own government. A war of terror

Covid is a protection racket. We’re at the smashing windows stage and every lockdown is a brick

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 9:58 PM

“Covid-19” – the totalitarian spectre.

“You’re not scared, are you?”
“No no, not when you’re with me.”
“I have to tell you something,
I’m different from the others.”
“I know that.”
“No no, I am completely different.”

(Resurrection & marching of the Heinos)

“What’s wrong, it’s stopped raining!”
“Let’s get out of here fast!”
“Oh yes, let’s go to my place!”

Grafter
Grafter
Sep 29, 2020 9:55 PM

We all know its a scam and so do they. We now need to show them along with intelligent people the world over that they will not be allowed to get away with this and they will be punished .

hotrod31
hotrod31
Sep 30, 2020 1:17 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Grafter: au contraire … the majority of our fellow humans, do NOT realise that this is another meticulously pre-fabricated, socially engineered scam. There might even be friends and colleagues in your social-circles who would view YOU as an upstart if you shared your erudite opinions re: how these scams proliferate.
Big brother knows this, that is why they get more brazen with their dictatorial plans.

You only need to listen to Trump, Pompeo , Boris, Netanyahu, et al. to become aware that these human turds do not give a rat’s-rump about diplomacy or the UN anymore. The CCJ is a joke only there to prosecute dark skinned dictators.

The elites have made it abundantly clear that the so called ‘re-set’ is well underway. We do not matter because we’re so fractured and disorganised. From observations – the obvious, only obstacles to the roll-out of the grand-plan now are, Putin, Xi, Assad and Iranian leaders.

I fear that we might have left our awakening too l-a-t-e.

In my lifetime, I have never heard a world leader openly brag about murdering generals, of sovereign countries, while they were on diplomatic errands across borders (Solameini). Only psychopaths without an ounce of ethics do such things … and get away with it.

As for Syria and Lebanon … one doesn’t need to be an Einstein to figure out that the loading dock explosion and the theft of Syria’s oil-wells is gangsterism, at its worst.
It is quite apparent that one can do as they please when they own and control the UN the banks and 90-97% of the media …

Someone
Someone
Sep 29, 2020 9:50 PM

SARS-CoV-2 and even a SARS-CoV-3 have been mentioned in a journal of clinical microbiology… in 2008.

https://t.co/Dw66lYH9wX?amp=1

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Sep 30, 2020 5:02 AM
Reply to  Someone

That’s wild!

Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Isn’t it… just wondering when the media will finally release SARS-CoV-3 – The Return of St. Corona.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 3, 2020 4:20 AM
Reply to  Someone

Hmm. I guess it doesn’t’ much matter of the nomenclature. Rather, we need to engage w/ with each other. You knw the Ludduttes were not against against “technology”, they were against losing their way of life.

Someone
Someone
Oct 3, 2020 5:35 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

The point is that SARS-CoV-2 is claimed to be a “novel” coronavirus. The entire response was justified on the grounds of SARS-CoV-2 being oh-so-novel that no one knows anything about it and therefore we need to break down society just in case. The entire Big Lie is based on the “novel coronavirus” being “novel”. I don’t understand why this small piece of evidence isn’t getting more attention, not even among the skeptics. It breaks down the entire lie at once.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 3, 2020 12:44 PM
Reply to  Someone

Of course.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 3, 2020 1:13 PM
Reply to  Someone

Gawd.I don’t get your point.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Sep 29, 2020 9:47 PM

‘A cure must not be worse than the problem’ is a thesis that is more relevant than ever in the current situation”.

Robert F Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates’ Vaccine Dictatorship Plan – cites Gates’ twisted ‘Messiah Complex’

“…….Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the #GatesFoundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court………….”

https://fort-russ.com/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-dictatorship-plan-cites-gates-twisted-messiah-complex/

UN: Gates-Funded Vaccine causing Polio in Africa

This really should be one of the biggest scandals in public health, but it’s given little attention – mainly because of the high-profile nature of the people and organisations involved.

The United Nations has been forced to admit that a major international vaccine initiative is actually causing the outbreak of the very disease it was supposed to wipe-out……………”

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/un-forced-admit-gates-funded-vaccine-causing-polio-outbreak-africa?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=miximedia&utm_campaign=zerohedge

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 30, 2020 7:36 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Other vaccine disasters from WHO/Gates that Robert Kennedy describes: measles, meningitis, malaria, tetanus, DTP, MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella and varicella). Among the worst victims are the children rendered autistic and their guardians.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Sep 29, 2020 9:33 PM

There is not outbreak of a “Sars CoV2” virus. I am not impressed with health professionals supporting the covid hoax.
https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/09/16/the-rise-of-the-alt-right-msm/

Roberto
Roberto
Sep 30, 2020 12:22 AM
Reply to  BDBinc

They’re bureaucrats. ‘Top Doctors’, and Dr Quacks, if they’re not bureaucrats, loving the limelight, with no fear of accountability.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 8:36 PM

Just caught a blast of News:

“blah blah…COVID…blah blah…but the true figures are bound to be higher”

Interesting.

How about…

“blah blah…we haven’t got a clue…blah blah…and we don’t care anyway …blah blah …but the truth is much worse than anything you can possibly imagine!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 10:56 PM
Reply to  George Mc

makes you puke doesn’t it… can’t turn it on anymore but I check sometimes,,, just to get “actual”… follow the trend… today, code red in Montreal and Quebec city… All restaurants and bars closed for 28 days…

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 10:57 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

We haven’t been good enough you see…

Guy
Guy
Sep 30, 2020 1:07 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

I know we need to get down on our knees and beg for forgiveness for not believing the bullshit ,I mean what the government shills have been telling us.
Repent and put your mask on !

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 7:38 AM
Reply to  Guy
  • But we HAVE our mask on
  • You don’t seem to like it… you express dissatisfaction, Code red for you
Roberto
Roberto
Sep 30, 2020 12:27 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

But not the retail dope stores run by the government, an ‘essential business’.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 7:32 AM
Reply to  Roberto

You’re gonna have to use it alone though… Can’t have anyone in your house now, that doesn’t live there… forgot that one… psychosis galore

darren
darren
Sep 29, 2020 6:48 PM

Sorry if this is scaremongering, but if this madness gets as far as a vaccine, we are a major step closer to a real pandemic. Check out the synopsis to Cheshire’s book, and remember, this was written over twenty years ago. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N8C3WWS Good series.

hope
hope
Sep 29, 2020 7:57 PM
Reply to  darren

I somehow doubt it will get to a vaccine because at least 1/4th to 1/3rd of society will refuse it.
What might happen and it would be bad enough is that conditions are put, like being unable to travel, or go to work, or use a bank card, unless vaccinated. If they try anything, they may try just about saying you cant travel by plane unless vaccinated. Given that the majority dont travel by plane, or only do so for holidays, this would in effect affect the few of us who for work and personal reasons have no option but to live between countries… But best not worry before it happens.

As far as I know a vaccine is unlikely before next year.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 29, 2020 8:54 PM
Reply to  hope

The last time I was on a plane was shortly after 9/11. It was supposed to be a flight from Prague to Philadelphia via Paris, but it ended up being absolute hell, with planes cancelled, and security checks in Paris beyond belief. I’ve made the choice to avoid air travel since, only by terrestrial means. It means that I don’t go to the Americas, but I can live with that. I refuse to submit myself to the status of a package with no rights whatsoever. It will only become worse now, unbearable in fact.

Fish & Chips
Fish & Chips
Sep 29, 2020 10:33 PM
Reply to  Jacques

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Dr NG Maroudas
Dr NG Maroudas
Sep 30, 2020 6:38 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Jaques, me too — avoid the humiliation of air travel. Miles Kington, a very astute humorist, predicted decades ago that Govt&Terrorist was a double act, and their farce “Airport Security” starring Yasser Arafat and Leila Khaled was the opening show.

“Con-19” is their latest and biggest success.

hope
hope
Sep 30, 2020 7:17 AM
Reply to  Jacques

I agree with you and Im very worried. You see I own property in my own country, and even to sell it I would have to fly, and that more than 10hrs flight… At the moment Im just trying not to think about it. Also I miss my country. Also, my work is of a type which without traveling becomes much more dry: conferences, academic invitations. To some extent this can remain within Europe, but only to some very limited extent. To be truly creative, you have to meet a wide variety of people, from different cultures. Also it so happens that what was planned before the measures destroyed all plans is that I spend this year in countries which would have required I fly. Anyhow for the moment they are still beyond reach. I would need to have the testing done, which I refuse, and wear a mask for that long, which I also refuse..

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 30, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  hope

I miss my country too, one of them anyway. And I do have some very important business to attend to there as well. I would have probably bitten the bullet and flown there before (despite the anti-t-ist bulls-it), but I can’t see myself doing it now. I really can’t envisage a scenario other than absolute sanitary hell, including testing/quarantine. They’re roll out a comprehensive set of rules shortly, akin to the anti-t-ist idiocy. The only way I can see myself on a plane again is if complying with whatever measures are imposed is unavoidable for survival. I don’t wanna sound hysterical, but on the personal level, I don’t know whether I’d rather live under the tyranny I can see coming or die.

Incidentally, I’m a musician, among a few other things, and my profession has for all intents and purposes ceased to exist.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 30, 2020 10:49 AM
Reply to  hope

I’m in the same boat as you and Jacques actually. Stuck in Australia, and can’t return to my own country of New Zealand coz on arrival, it’s mandatory testing and 2 weeks quarantine.
I will not get tested for Any reason. They would have to physically restrain me and chain me to a chair first.
And unfortunately, the full blown globalist minion, Jacinda Ardern looks set for an easy win in the upcoming New Zealand elections in a couple of weeks. She has been the one fully pushing the agenda there, along with the faceless bureaucrats.
There are many people stranded in countries like Australia, or France or the UK who are not citizens of those countries. And then when Govt support is scaled back, and the moratorium on rental evictions is lifted, you’re going to have major social conflict coupled with a lot of people living in parks
Only one card I have left up my sleeve, but it can’t get me back to New Zealand if the current mandatory testing and such remains.
I hope your week has been going okay, and you’ve been rejuvenated by your time away from Paris. I’m just trying to live one day at a time and put faith in the Universe.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 30, 2020 7:50 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Don’t forget the free X-rays they give you.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  hope

and how do you know that?

hope
hope
Sep 30, 2020 7:22 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

According to a person in charge of one of the vaccine programs whom I know they were hoping to have the first vaccines early next year.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 7:42 AM
Reply to  hope

They can take their time… tell them not to rush it.

hope
hope
Sep 30, 2020 8:39 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

She I think has no conception that I could possibly think differently from her. Last time I saw her (before all this), the description that came to my head was: “her master’s voice” (you know the logo of that old record company). She was determined to make us accept that Monsanto’s roundup was totally safe. It was a relentless flow of words, you couldnt get a word in edgeways. She didnt notice evidently that I spent the time talking to someone else.
Anyhow I just have decided to ring her up now and again to find out where they’re at. Just to know if we have to begin to worry. Ill ring her towards the end of the year.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 11:35 AM
Reply to  hope

Ok I get the picture I think… career person lost in the febrility of things

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 30, 2020 7:47 AM
Reply to  hope

Contrary to the global propaganda,

(a) Any claim of a vaccine for flu or related disease is outrageous BS:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/flu-misinformation-and-coronavirus-fears-my-letter-to-dr-sanjay-gupta/

(b) Most people have no right to demand compensation for harm from a mandatory vaccine; if this is not totalitarianism, what is?

hope
hope
Sep 30, 2020 8:40 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I fully agree.

Binra
Binra
Sep 30, 2020 12:32 PM
Reply to  hope

There are people trialling them.
There are old vaccines ‘repurposed’ and rolled out (Russia).
There can be any number of ‘medical’ interventions required for a passport to limited and conditional ‘freedoms’.

I would be wary of presuming we have any ground to stand on in a managed reality experience that ‘they’ can adjust to incentivise, divert, generate new identities – etc.

Agree that worry is detrimental to well being and serves no useful purpose.
Managing reality is a taxing business.
The breakdown of ‘reality’ is revealing that it isn’t Real.
This begs the question and the curiosity for ‘what is?’.
Clearly we can engage ‘about this’ through our intersecting narrative identifications, but these all operate an already fear-masked world.

Recognising false attempts to immunise against our fears is a narrative mind set to mask against meeting them, such that we either do not see, or perceive something ‘else’ set in a frame or narrative that mitigates direct exposure.
Our subscription to Narrative Management Control.Inc is for any masking identity set over total disclosure.

But an Is, doesn’t and cannot attack itself.
The self that we are not seeks the immunity or protection of Is – in external terms.
Insofar as it seems to pass off as you, or me, we persist in its experience as the conditions that drive or subject us and call on false gods to save the mind fear gives us.
Hence my primary willingness is to bring the mind that fear gives us into awareness. Not to tell anyone anything they are not already in the willingness to know.

Jesper
Jesper
Sep 29, 2020 8:49 PM
Reply to  darren

Spot on. I feel no need to read more than the synopsis though, now that it actually is happening.

Binra
Binra
Sep 30, 2020 12:09 PM
Reply to  darren

I often wonder if predictive programming is a script from a future that is no more here than the past. Did you read these – and did they inspire you or fixate in apocalyptic fascinations?
I liked the author’s ‘about me’ spiel on Amazon.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 30, 2020 3:03 PM
Reply to  Binra

How do I access this ‘about me’ feature? I’m not seeing it.

Binra
Binra
Sep 30, 2020 10:12 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Go to amazon and click on the author, this will feature a biographical background – that just possibly could have been written by some one else, but I’m sure the author provided the info.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 30, 2020 11:40 PM
Reply to  Binra

The author’s name just directs me here:
https://www.amazon.com/Jim-Cheshire/e/B08CCDD3HQ/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1

I don’t see any bio info…

Binra
Binra
Oct 1, 2020 12:19 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Sorry – being in the UK, I used amazon.co.uk and on their author page it has the sidebar with biographical background.
I assumed US would get the same. Wrongly.

There is the invitation to the author to do so. This suggest he posted it to UK but not US? Who knows.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jim-Cheshire/e/B08CCDD3HQ?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1601507521&sr=8-1
If this for any reason doesn’t work, come back one more time and I will paste it in here!

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 1, 2020 1:35 AM
Reply to  Binra

THANKS!

His novel series ‘Random Skies’ was started in 1999.

Ah-ha, hence “darren’s” reference to it being written “over twenty years ago.” Did you get a sneak peek at the galley proof in those halcyon days, “darren,” or are you relying on the bio written this year?

The first episode, ‘Quorum’, concerned a totalitarian world order, micro-chipping the surviving population of an earlier pandemic that wiped out most of the world in 2024.

Well doesn’t that sound prescient indeed! Then the kicker:

It now seems appropriate to post the entire series.

Then nine volumes materialize in early 2019. What a coincidinky! (Or not…why, again, was early 2019 an “appropriate” time to dump them onto Amazon?)

This is definitely some skunky-ass shizz…

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 1, 2020 6:44 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Hey Checker, check this out. Do you think it could be the same guy, with a fictional profile on the UK site? Since his original pseudonym was Jack Barrett…

“Jim Cheshire is a technology expert and has written over a dozen books on technology topics. Jim also shares his passion and knowledge with readers via online columns and articles.

Jim is currently in his 22nd year working for Microsoft. He has worked in many areas, and he’s now working on developing and implementing a cutting-edge technical training initiative for Microsoft support. When not working, Jim enjoys spending time with his family, playing the piano, and fishing every chance he gets.“

https://www.amazon.com/Jim-Cheshire/e/B001HOUH1U%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 2, 2020 4:03 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Wait, where’s the “Barrett” data point coming from? The Random Skies “Cheshire” cat or the Microsoft “Cheshire” cat?

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 2, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

From his UK profile. I just find it strange that his picture on that profile is a paint effects filter of a photograph of him with a hat on and sunglasses. Why go to so much trouble to disguise your identity?

“His series of ‘real life novels’ were fictionalised under the name of Jack Barrett and chronicled the independent musical exploits of the Midlands indie scene. “

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 2, 2020 3:59 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Rabbit hole too deep. Gotta come up for air.

On a side note, if I ever self-published my novel…believe me I would go to every trouble to hide my identity!

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 1, 2020 12:05 AM
Reply to  darren

Amazon’s publication date for both the Kindle and paperback editions is 2019.
Neither “Jim Cheshire” nor “Spey Sondheim” has any substantial web footprint.
TVTropes has no entry for either of those names, or “Random Skies,” or “Quorum.”

None of the synopses for the (9+!) “volumes” refer to characters or actual plot points, but instead read like Japanese light-novel world-building exposition.

WTF is this?

Binra
Binra
Oct 1, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

It could be what you think it is – predictive programming from a fake past reinforcing a present narrative that like a boot on the face of humanity, seeks to deny us a human future.
The internet is an ‘electronic mirage’. If you are bothered you can use wayback machine but I think you’ve spotted the ruse.

I was curious, but not personally into reading fictitious programming. I did however read a novel called Malice recently by Jennifer Jaynes. While ‘gripping’ it used a novel to purvey some of the corruptions of pharma with the unlikely thesis of a vaccination for cold virus that damages kids but anyone blowing the whistle gets even more damaged.
I don’t know if Jennifer Jaynes was ‘invented’ or not, but her death soon after after writing it prompted me to make an exception for a fictional depiction.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Oct 1, 2020 1:56 AM
Reply to  Binra

predictive programming from a fake past reinforcing a present narrative”

Nicely put.
The thing about “predictive programming” is that it serves a dual purpose. As an amateur novelist myself, I have learned first-hand that Writing is to a very large degree a problem-solving process. It forces the Writer to limit and craft the work so an to be coherent. Continuity doesn’t come easy.

So my point: I think the Cryptocratic-Industrial Complex constantly commissions fictional works not just to prime the audience, but first and foremost to work out necessary plot-points from a storyteller’s perspective. Like for Contagion, the screenwriter was tasked with: “What are the necessary parameters of a fictional ‘virus’ that would lead to the intended dramatic dynamic?”

Well, it would have to be “asymptomatically spread” so that everyone would be paranoid, and anyone can be a carrier.
It would have to be “aerosolizable,” so that “social distancing” is a plausible-sounding precaution, etc. And of course masks.
And then how will the characters plausibly react to and operate within these premises?

So I think the war-planners frequently employ novelists to anticipate and solve problems of cohesive Narrative. This is also the thinking behind “simulations” like Event 201, but are preliminary to them. The “novelizations” (as these “Random Skies” covers proclaim to be) are the Pre-Production Stage for psy-ops.

Binra
Binra
Oct 1, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Yes. Fiction has been weaponised to such framing and payloads, without necessarily knowing the purpose it is being used for.
The most ‘intelligent’ or subtle manipulators seek and set up narratives that cover for or frame their directives or purpose.
I generally observe this within consciousness (through my own mind observed in act), but it pertains to a deep state of hypnosis in which we consent by investing in the story.

In the case of ‘random skies’ I think it part of the huge pressure currently being exerted to manually effect a shift into the erasure of individuality as an expression of life, love and connection. The ‘connection’ is to be hard wired’ as a collectivist template. But this is no connection but an avoidance or mitigation of fear, pain and loss.

As a ‘writer’ from the presumption of freedom to be truly moved, I see the original psyop as the deceit by which we ‘break into’ our own story, and become trapped in the ‘continuity’ of persisting an identity set in fear made flesh – in that it becomes compellingly real and the overriding driving force of our character and themes of unfolding ‘meanings’ that all draw their meaning from the core archetypes of an ‘attack on reality’ or fear given power as the controlling and aligning force, masking both as love and hate. The personae of the casting out represent a set of problems of issues to be ‘worked out’ – excepting nothing can ever exceed its predicate. And if our predicate is a template, then it is not truly Living nor giving rise to true fruit, but filters and in a sense captures the original light in its own ‘mind’ or structured focus.

The process of bringing into form or expression is an art in which we may ‘get out of our own way’ or at the other end of the scale so over control as to produce a dead result. The attempt to bring the dead to life is the sacrifice of life to stories set as authority – such as the naked emperor syndrome. In which outright lies are set as necessary to give compliance to in order to protect the Script of a collective investment that goes deeper in our mind than the protagonists and the shadow power of insider control that is the Script written in fear and lack – masking in driven control, that runs to suppress, limit and deny being truly or freely moved.

The interplay of limitation and freedom is the unfolding of experience.

I see a theme of revisiting our starting place – as the reset in terror to make a new Script – except there is nothing new in it. It’s all about control and lies. there may of course be new realms of experience in limitation and dissociation set as counterpoint to the playing out of being as gods.

The term ‘god’ has some currency as the representative of the domain from which the currently experienced reality is derived or begotten. This gave us a vengeful and predatory gods from our ‘mythologised’ collective trauma, prior to the rational mask of object continuity. But the Jesus revelation is of an interloper in the Template that has no true belonging, and which is our freedom and responsibility to ‘clear out’ or evacuate, as a true movement – and not as a battle of wills. But while we are invested in our story, we wont hear the Call to live – and may instead perceive some sort of pervasive pathogenic contagion instead of a detoxification process that shits out our ego or life as we once thought we wanted or needed it to be.

Life is as it Is – and yet the mind of expression can reflect truth, or generate untruth by playing out contradictions as polarised domains and entities of representation. That there is a breath of expansion and compression as part of the growth cycle is natural to life in expression. We see it everywhere. Seed is a quality of life in compression. When biocides are applied to ‘bring on the harvest’ the plants are being killed and put all their residual energy into bringing to seed.

The forcing of life onto a ventilator so as to manually override the breath is an idea made ‘flesh’. Reading the underlying motif in the Script is locating within ourselves, not within our character or plot, but within a non-spatial field of recognition and resonance. We call on and receive, from points of experience in a field of memory and imagination. While we want the experience of a world of fear set in control over life, we do not call beyond its rules, and set terror symbols to hold the confinement. Yes they can leap forth from anyone at any time as the means to reinstate a mind of control, but they also mark the boundaries for a conscious alignment in freely accepted decision. When the child is moved to explore beyond their garden gate, it is time to expand the support for a wider experience, and responsibility within it – else they are delivered unto to some child-devouring predator in the forest of lies and deceit.

Binra
Binra
Oct 1, 2020 11:17 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

PS: in belief we have stolen a mind, (becoming a seemingly private and separate arena of thought and control or limitation),we project such intent away from self to then see or fear it in others and in life Life itself – as the expectation and fear of it being taken back. This pattern underlies the ‘contagion fear’ as a psychic substratum of denied or hidden consciousness.

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 5:54 PM

Swine Flu Scamdemic of 1976

Unbelievable..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=MR5ZB0OgYv4

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 6:42 PM
Reply to  John

Watching the first few minutes is enough to see the scam.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Sep 30, 2020 5:13 AM
Reply to  John

Back when mainstream media actually practiced adversarial journalism to a certain extent. Mike Wallace (I assume this is a 60 Minutes episode?) actually says that government including the POTUS Gerald Ford , health authorities at the CDC and Big Pharma colluded to create a fake pandemic to make money selling vaccines. Meanwhile many people were harmed, crippled for life or killed. We see it again in the fake pandemic of the Swine Flu of 2009 too. “But they would never do that!” Need to know your history!

Howard
Howard
Sep 29, 2020 5:14 PM

Certainly the COVID madness has deprived and will continue to deprive countless people of a livelihood. But there is a glimmer of hope. It’s called The Black Market. In the very near term, The Black Market will thrive to the extent that it may very well rival or even surpass the regular consumer market.

I don’t say this is a good thing. But I would absolutely say that many of the very ones imposing the restrictions will make a killing in The Black Market. As many have noted through history, “The Shit Rises To The Top.”

Erwin
Erwin
Sep 29, 2020 6:29 PM
Reply to  Howard

Yes indeed. And when the new digital currency is rolled out, there will be a number of alternatives that will have the cabal’s head spinning as they try to stamp them out. Trying to take over the (known) world has tripped up many tyrants in the history of mankind when people just don’t do what they are told.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 29, 2020 5:10 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Atlas
Scott William Atlas (b. Chicago, July 5, 1955)[1][2] is an American neuroradiologist, professor, commentator, and health care policy advisor. He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.[3] He was selected by President Donald Trump in August 2020 to serve as an advisor on the White House Coronavirus Task Force,[4] although his specialization is radiology rather than public health or infectious disease.[5][6] Contrary to the recommendations of the scientific community,[6] Atlas has pushed for establishing herd immunity,[7] a faster reopening of schools and businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic and less testing for the virus.[8][9] His views and influence on policies have set off controversies on the task force.

Laura Ingraham interviews Dr Scott Atlas (WH Covid Advisor)
Sep 28, 2020

Hemple
Hemple
Sep 29, 2020 6:05 PM

Don’t kid yourself……… Trump is no hero.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 29, 2020 11:08 PM
Reply to  Hemple

As I note below and elsewhere, Trump is certainly getting things done. But whether you consider him to be a hero or a villain probably depends on which side of the fence you’re on. For instance:

Fmr. CIA Director John Brennan: “I am more worried today than I ever have been before”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/15/federal-judge-rules-pennsylvania-lockdown-unconstitutional/#comment-242090

Jul 25, 2020: Trump signs executive order aimed at lowering drug prices.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/16/from-blue-shirts-to-brown/#comment-240789

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Sep 30, 2020 1:50 AM

Trump is certainly getting things done.”

The only things he is “certainly” doing are goofing, grinning, gamboling and muggin’ for the cameras while the US turns into a brutal, totalitarian techno-terror tyranny, on his carefree watch.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 2:21 AM
Reply to  Fact Checker

Re: while the US turns into a brutal, totalitarian techno-terror tyranny.

No, that’s just the Democrat controlled cities and states. It took the populations sometime to wake up to the reality of Bolshevism, but they’re getting there eventually. Better late than never!

Grafter
Grafter
Sep 30, 2020 11:33 AM

Forget the “hero” nonsense. We’re talking about common sense here. If Trump speaks it good on him.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 29, 2020 7:14 PM

Nothing has been changed re government policy, Fauci is still calling the shots, and Trump is pushing for express approval of vaccines with no testing.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 29, 2020 10:47 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Re: Nothing has been changed re government policy.

Which government are you referring to? The US lockdowns were almost entirely at the State level. Some of those remain, but some have been lifted; and some elements have been successfully challenged in court. There was never a federally mandated lockdown. Furthermore, the Bolshevik teachers unions have handed the school system over to Betsy DeVos. What more in the way of “change” do you want?
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/13/watch-new-zealand-to-move-all-covid-cases-to-quarantine-centres/#comment-220884

Re: Fauci is still calling the shots.
Did you watch the Atlas video? Fauci is out!

Re: Trump is pushing for express approval of vaccines with no testing.

The “vaccine” and therapeutic is HCQ; and it’s been thoroughly tested. See:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/16/from-blue-shirts-to-brown/#comment-240765

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 29, 2020 11:51 PM

Trump is pushing for the express approval of vaccines, NOT HCQ.

Fauci and Redfield at the CDC are still calling the shots.

“Bolshevik” teachers unions working with ultra-capitalist billionaire Betsy DeVos? I ain’t no Bolshevik, always found them to be the worst thing which ever happened to socialism (them and the social democrats which they grew out of), but the teachers unions are not remotely Bolshevik or even social democratic.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 29, 2020 11:59 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Re: “Bolshevik” teachers unions working with ultra-capitalist billionaire Betsy DeVos?

I never said “working with”. Rather, I said “handed over”. There’s a difference!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 5:56 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Trump: “give me therapeutics every time”

If you follow the above link you will see that HCQ can function as both a prophylaxis AND as a treatment during illness. Via SWPRS:

Prophylaxis (Treatment protocol)
 – Zinc (50mg to 100mg per day)
 – Quercetin (500mg to 1000mg per day)
 – Bromhexine (25mg to 50mg per day)
 – Vitamins C (1000mg) and D (2000 u/d)

https://www.newsweek.com/president-trump-says-give-me-therapeutics-over-covid-19-vaccine-1519852
President Trump Says “Give Me Therapeutics” Over COVID-19 Vaccine
July 22, 2020
In an interview with Dr. Marc Siegel on the Fox News program Tucker Carlson Tonight, President Donald Trump said he preferred the concept of therapeutic therapies for COVID-19 patients over vaccines. . . .
Trump said: “. . . if I had my choice between vaccines or therapeutics, give me therapeutics every time because I’d love to walk into a hospital and give everybody something and they start walking out in two days. That’s what I’d like.”

Fox News
Interview with Dr. Marc Siegel
Jul 22, 2020

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 30, 2020 7:12 AM

And that’s why he’s pushing for quick vaccine approval? LOL!

https://markcrispinmiller.com/2020/09/trump-threatens-to-block-stricter-sic-covid-19-vaccine-standards/

This from a man with a vaccine-injured child.
Certain of Trump’s ever-hopeful followers may see this as some kind of shrewd maneuver on his part, intended to outflank his pseudo-adversary, Dr. Fauci; but I think it’s something else—shrewd, yes, but not on our behalf: 
In light of the pro wrestling character of US “politics,” this looks like a set-up to cast Biden/Harris, or who/whatever takes Trump’s place, as very cautious, so that the COVID-19 vaccine will appear to have been duly safety-tested (although, in fact, no vaccines ever really are), and every anti-Trumper, and some others, will feel wonderfully relieved that Trump’s no longer “putting us at risk” by interfering in the (non-existent) safety-testing protocol; so they will all be more inclined to get their shots (which he, Gates, Fauci and the rest of them most certainly won’t get, just as they don’t wear masks, except on camera).

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 7:47 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

From the Truthout article: “We may or may not approve it,” Trump said.

https://truthout.org/articles/trump-threatens-to-block-stricter-covid-19-vaccine-standards/

Is this anything more than a “may or may not” at the moment?

Grafter
Grafter
Sep 30, 2020 11:43 AM

Go Trump ! They don’t want to discuss “therapeutics”.

ame
ame
Sep 29, 2020 8:38 PM

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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 29, 2020 11:37 PM
Reply to  ame

It was a bit “off topic”, but thanks for bringing Epstein into the conversation. It will give me a chance to share my new “conspiracy theory”. If you follow the link below; watch the clip of Trump discussing Ghislaine Maxwell; and read the NY Post article which states that:

“Epstein was ‘Pinocchio’ with ‘Gepetto’ Ghislaine pulling the strings.”

The theory is that a deal was done with Epstein a long time ago, and that he’s now in witness protection. It’s a bit far-fetched, perhaps, but interesting nonetheless.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/11/youtube-shuts-down-a-russian-fox/#comment-219913

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 30, 2020 7:09 AM
Reply to  ame

Trump claims to not know much about “the movement”.

Trump on QAnon conspiracy believers: “They love our country”
CTV News
Aug 19, 2020
Donald Trump says people who believe in a conspiracy theory that believe he is saving the world from a cabal of satanic cannibals “love our country.”

kevin
kevin
Sep 29, 2020 11:56 PM

Also co-wrote this article in May:

The COVID-19 shutdown will cost Americans millions of years of life
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/499394-the-covid-19-shutdown-will-cost-americans-millions-of-years-of-life

Jan J
Jan J
Sep 30, 2020 8:15 AM

This guy speaks the truth in this interview. If this is the true stance he also has in the task force, and if his opinion is given any weight at all, it’s surely a GOOD thing, regardless of which of the two clowns you support for president.

Julie
Julie
Sep 29, 2020 4:59 PM

Sent to my MP Rishi Sunak, chris whitty and p valance. I thought Agenda 21 was farfetched until I actually went on UN website. There in bold writing. From Club of Rome Climate Summit 1992 looking for a crisis to bring about global governance control. Our Prince Charles in the thick of it been busy lately with his WEF Reset and UN Climate speeches. Need to wake upto the threat of Agenda 21 30 and 50! Gates vaccinate the world fits right in.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 29, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Julie

The politicians know all about Agenda 21, Agenda 30. They are on board.

Julie
Julie
Sep 29, 2020 4:35 PM

Sent to my MP Rishi Sunak, chris whitty and p valance.

David Matthews
David Matthews
Sep 29, 2020 7:04 PM
Reply to  Julie

Whitty and Valance are conflicted. Whitty is in Gates’ pocket due to grants from the Bill & Mel Foundation and Valance has large investments in GSK, where he was formerly employed in a leading research role.

I saw somewhere they were described as the Chuckle Brothers. Lousy jokes and laughing all the way to the bank.

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 4:29 PM

Berlin. Those in power have created a further income source (in addition to alcohol and cigarette taxes). Anyone who writes “Dr. Strange, governmental virologist” on the form in bars and restaurants will be fined 50 euros. Work is also under way on a regulation to considerably tighten personal freedom in public appearances. In the family sphere, simultaneous contact between a maximum of two relatives is to become the norm.

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 7:49 PM
Reply to  Arne

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-lockdown/british-ministers-prepare-for-social-lockdown-in-northern-britain-london-the-times-idUSKBN26I11S

“The pursuit of health is a symptom of unhealth. When this pursuit is no longer a personal yearning but part of state ideology, healthism for short, it becomes a symptom of political sickness.” (Prof. Petr Skrabanek, 1994)

Life in the virocracy: “Survey of contact details for the containment of infection chains.”

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Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Arne

(HELLthism: good, better, bestial. Wishing, waiting wondering.)

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 9:08 PM
Reply to  Arne

Postmodern reality: dreaming of
Hawaii – waking up in a nuthouse:
“Have you done your wee-wee yet?”
“What you think the crapper is for?”
“I’m going to tell the doctor all this!”

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 10:37 PM
Reply to  Arne

So acu2020.org is not totally affective in Germany? What’s happened to Beate Bahner?

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  John

Beats me, John. I may have heard about her
fate, but I don’t know any more than you do.
I observe the scenery more like a spectator.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Sep 29, 2020 4:19 PM

A really inspiring open letter! Thanks to those who composed it and all the signatories!
Thanks to Off-G for making it available here! I am definitely passing this along!

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 4:17 PM

COVID = absolute control of humans

The only people we’ll see enjoying freedom will be in film and television – pre 2020

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JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 4:27 PM
Reply to  John

“Sorry for any inconvenience”

No they’re not.

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

And they lied. It’s not mandatory. I will avoid such places and continue paying with cash.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 4:39 PM
Reply to  John

Quite, John, me too – mind you, I will have little choice as I don’t have the necessary technology. We really do seem to be fast becoming a multi-tier society when it comes to ‘Covidism’ – ironic when you think of the rampant obsession with removing discrimination in multi-cultural society.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 4:44 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Hiya, Judy. I hope you’re well. Are you still into the idea of meeting up? And if you are, would Thursday of this week be convenient?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Hi Gwyn

Yes, I’m doing ok, thanks. It would be lovely to meet up on Thursday. I can’t remember precisely what I suggested previously about ‘where’ but think I mentioned the main free open air car park where I live down the main road by the clock monument opposite the Post Office (you will remember where this is but I don’t want to say it again here in case we attract some undesirable company!). Are you happy with this? If so let me know what time you suggest. I could make any time after 11.30 (a.m. of course!).

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Great! And yes, you did mention that car park. I can be there for 2:00 p.m.

Boris-faked-his-Covid
Boris-faked-his-Covid
Sep 29, 2020 6:35 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Oh, you two! …so romantic.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 6:38 PM

😀 Social distancing of course!

Prunella Winthropp-Bing
Prunella Winthropp-Bing
Sep 29, 2020 7:16 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

More like running round the car park with your knickers in your pocket.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 6:39 PM

Yeah, well, nobody said that it had to be just the two of us, know what I mean? (Wink, wink).

Ort
Ort
Sep 29, 2020 9:14 PM

We also would have accepted “Get a room!” 😉

JudyJ
JudyJ
Sep 29, 2020 6:43 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Fine for me. Look forward to it. There is a large display map at the ‘top’ end of the car park which is visible from wherever you are in the car park so we could meet by that rather than carrying a newspaper or wearing a rose! Alternatively we could meet by the recycling skips at the lower end of the car park but not quite as appealing! I suggest we meet at the map. See you there!

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Yep, see you there!

(Note to self: no newspaper, no rose…).

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 11:19 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Ok that’s cruel… Now everyone wants to go… reminds me, I always thought we should be able to chat privately on this site… No worries gals… can’t leave work… get a plane ticket, book a room over there…

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 11:39 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Désolé, Theobalt. ;o)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 7:45 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

I’m pretty sure you want to apply the feminine gender on that one… “désolée”… (I know)

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 30, 2020 2:15 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Gwyn is a man’s name. Mais pas de souci. :o)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 2:45 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

See? I always have to check… like Jamie, confusing to frenchie here… apologies

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 30, 2020 2:51 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

No apology required! Mais merci quand même.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 1, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

A disaster, Judy! The dual carriageway was closed. Meaning that I didn’t get to our meeting place until 3 o’clock. Aaargh! Sorry!

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 1, 2020 5:47 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

So sorry, Gwyn. You know what… I waited until 2.50 (soaking up the glorious sunshine!) so I must have only just missed you. At about 2.15 I overheard two blokes talking about chaos on the A55 (two caravans involved?) and they told me that traffic was at a standstill. I wasn’t sure if you were caught up in it so I decided to wait anyway, but thought/hoped you might have returned home.

I just feel so sorry for you, having made all that effort and it all being wasted. Now we are in local lockdown as from 6pm. tonight we can’t rearrange for the time being! Oh well never mind…worse things happen at sea! But whenever we are allowed, and you have the inclination, just let me know when you would like to try again!

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 1, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

The flippin’ local lockdown! Damn it. I was going to suggest that we try again tomorrow. Aah, well – as soon as these stupid restrictions are lifted, I’ll come over.

Thanks a lot for waiting for me until 2:50. I’m glad you enjoyed a nice bit of sunshine (a rarity!). :o)

Gwyn
Gwyn
Oct 2, 2020 1:43 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

I forgot to say that I hope the lockdown goes as well as possible for you. :o)

Ort
Ort
Sep 29, 2020 9:12 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Well, that’s as may be.

But I’m certain that your call is important to them!

Mucho
Mucho
Sep 29, 2020 4:06 PM

The Labour party is to politics what the PCr test is to covid. A fraud, a tool of the deceivers, a non entity which deserves none of the attention it gets. The Labour Party is dead.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 29, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Getting expelled from the Labour party had me in shock for decades till I realized that TPTB had used the RCP as a Trojan horse — I was an idiot for being had, I knew at the time it was so unlikely the Trots would want to form common ground but I was 18. By definition lacking in wisdom and thus a fool.

It takes decades to own up to having been had. Even if I earned the honour of being discussed at the level of the NEC and receiving a personal expulsion letter. But the truth makes you free and freedom makes you dangerous. Which is why I still invite the attention of TPTB to this day. Which is a compliment I never thought I deserved.

But those days were good days. Tony Benn, Fenner Brockway… people one could talk to for hours. I even enjoyed infiltrating the Monday Club at the same time as a Militant… but I did it as an individual, for the intellectual stimulation and nothing more.

The crazy thing is… I was far more informed than any of the UnIntelligent operatives. And I know them well. I had to chase one of their pedophile whores off my brother. And that whore rose to the top of Mi6 – Peter Hayman.

My point is not to earn or score points but to point out the point of all of this: the joy of exposing the buggers, whatever the cost.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 29, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“If you’re not a whore, old boy, you really won’t get on.”

Mi5’s motto, Defence of the Realm, is really a trouser-suited inversion of Invade my Domain.

Mi6’s motto, Semper Occultus, is Promise you won’t Tell Anyone, Ever.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 1, 2020 6:39 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Sounds like a Harry Potter spell; and probably about as (in-)effective.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Sep 29, 2020 3:49 PM

Pointing out what happened in countries where there was no lockdown is an effective way of producing more scepticism in the minds of those who are already entertaining doubts about the official narrative.

kevin
kevin
Sep 29, 2020 3:46 PM

This is great. Doctors need to do this in every country.

Paul
Paul
Sep 29, 2020 3:23 PM

We must stop pretending the government are incompetent or are acting irrationally and we must accept there is a lot of controlled opposition out there.

Despite what the fact checkers say Karry Mullins inventor of the PCR test is on record saying his test cannot be used to detect an infectious disease and a positive test does not mean a person is sick or infectious.

Professors Heneghan, Gupta, Dr Mike Yeadon etc must be fully aware of this.

This farce could easily be ended if they spoke out and told the truth.

With the amount of money invested in modern medicine surely the scientists could agree about this ‘new virus and new disease’.

But they all have something different to say and Freedom of Information requests from 13 different countries have revealed that no one can show this virus was properly isolated and purified or causes a new disease.

Boris or Al Johnson, Dictator Dan Andrews etc knows full what they’re doing.

They refuse to answer any questions on the proof of the new virus, the validity of the PCR test and all claim they are following the WHO guidelines and diktats.

They keep repeating the same lie every day in the hope the more will believe it.

Wuhan was chosen as the area to introduce the lockdown concept and the rest of the world followed. Melbourne was chosen as the area to experiment with the fascistic police state and the rest of the world will follow suit.

It’s creeping in day by day in the UK.

Whitty and Vallance were sent out last week to spread bullshit to justify the policies.

These psychopaths are literally laughing at people who buy this bullshit and scurry around incessantly washing their hands and wearing bits of cloth over their faces.

The restrictions being put in place are slowly strangling the life out of the middle class, whilst the big corporations are getting richer.

By the end of this there will be the wealthy at the top of the pyramid and the rest of us at the bottom of the pyramid and a police state in between to impose their will and to protect them.

Under the smokescreen of Covid, they are implementing ID2020, the great economic reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution.

The New World Order.

Resist Resist Resist.

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Sep 29, 2020 5:11 PM
Reply to  Paul

It’s now a climactic moment in our irresponsibile life conduct, which is the root of the trouble. There’ll be more and worse, as we continue to consume to perhaps beyond the recent estimate of it taking more than 2 planet Earths to support our collective lifestyles.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 29, 2020 6:17 PM

Good suggestion. We’ll be just fine once we get every politician or corporate CEO with an IQ of less than 85 shipped off to the Moon.
Not being judgemental here, but it strikes me as a fitting response to this attempted coup to insist that all public figures in positions of great responsibility – the head of the WHO, for example – should be obligated to carry an IQ ID card after undergoing a general- knowledge and awareness test.
Those with genetically low IQs will not be penalized, humiliated, or exposed in any way, and the results will only be readable by already qualified personnel, but no one with low intelligence will be permitted to fill such positions of responsibility.
With time, perhaps after fifty years, there might be an additional test to identify those who have sold their souls and who indulge in black magic. They, of course, will be burnt alive.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 11:31 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes sir! Absolutely… Minimum requirement… I’ve tested 140IQ myself, and have been bored all my life because they made sure we wouldn’t encourage intelligence or any form of mental exercise… as a result everybody either hates me or afraid of me… both I’d say… both

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 1, 2020 2:38 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

You should take up violin playing. It’s extremely difficult, and it requires every scrap of intelligence one can muster.
If you’re over 60, however, forget it.

Someone
Someone
Sep 30, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  wardropper

But the problem is not that they’re stupid, the problem is that they’re dishonest. Which is worse because stupidity can be cured.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 11:28 PM

Who are you!?

geo
geo
Sep 30, 2020 4:41 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

A fellow who questions.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 30, 2020 7:35 AM
Reply to  geo

another feature that brings comfort around me

John
John
Sep 29, 2020 10:20 PM
Reply to  Paul

Great comment.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 29, 2020 2:43 PM

No one seems to REMEMBER any history, because “new” news and select propaganda are published 24/7. The media has a severe case of ADHD combined with flatulence and ignorance. >

China’s African Swine Fever (ASF) “Spreading Globally”? – Global ResearchGlobal Research
By F. William Engdahl
Global Research, November 30, 2019

The worst outbreak of fatal African [???] Swine Fever disease ever has devastated the world’s largest pig population, that of China, over the past months. Now it is spreading to neighboring states and even threatens the United States pig herds. The political and human impact could be far worse than imagined as a de facto pandemic disease situation spreads. Globalization of agribusiness is not helping matters.

On August 3, 2018 a case of African Swine Fever (ASF) was confirmed in China’s Liaoning Province. Since then despite various measures to contain the deadly disease it has spread across China where as of November, 2019 in little more than a year, nearly half of China’s huge pig population has either died or been eliminated in a desperate effort to contain the disease. ASF is not deadly to humans but is 100% fatal to any pig that is infected. There is no known treatment to cure it. It can be spread by direct contact with an infected pig, body fluids, contact with equipment or clothing and via certain tick species.”
 
Tick species eh? Erm…

Complete text: https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-african-swine-fever-asf-spreading-globally/5696345

American pork producers stepped right up and made huge profits on trading floors, whilst Chinese producers were forced to slaughter and dispose of 500 million pigs. No one even blinked.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 29, 2020 3:43 PM

ASF started in Georgia where the bio-lab called Lugar Centre for “Public Health Research” is located. It then spread across neighbouring Russia, and then China. It has reached most of SE Asia.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 2:08 PM

My reaction to the above is “Tell us something we don’t know”. The medical component behind the lockdown is bogus. The bit about war propaganda is the whole article. This virus bullshit is just an updating and intensification of the Cold war/ War on terror scheme. The present “second wave” lockdown represents a turning point in pushing the credibility factor. We must be getting close to the gullibility breaking point. What happens next will be most interesting. I suspect a stepping up of the “dangerous conspiracy nut” meme from the media.

Squiral
Squiral
Sep 29, 2020 2:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

They are going too far, normally they retract when they go too far, but I think they have been so surprised how easy it was to suppress the population, that it has made them embolden to go further. They have gone beyond the point of no return, they are SO out on a limb with this fraud, and I have never seen an operation so exposed before.

This is so clearly a sham, it is hard to see without a total dictatorship, how they can survive this without losing total credibility. The public are giving them lots of rope, have they hung themselves yet? I think they have.

My only problem is they have also got ‘the revolt’ covered, which will also be run by the same deep state.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 1, 2020 2:35 AM
Reply to  Squiral

All good points.
Actually, I think they are going too far because they are desperate.
If this attempted abomination fails, they have nothing left.

Tuton
Tuton
Sep 29, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Squiral
Sep 29, 2020 2:18 PM
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Reply to  George Mc

They are going too far, normally they retract when they go too far, but I think they have been so surprised how easy it was to suppress the population, that it has made them embolden to go further. They have gone beyond the point of no return, they are SO out on a limb with this fraud, and I have never seen an operation so exposed before.

This is so clearly a sham, it is hard to see without a total dictatorship, how they can survive this without losing total credibility. The public are giving them lots of rope, have they hung themselves yet? I think they have.

My only problem is they have also got ‘the revolt’ covered, which will also be run by the same deep state.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 29, 2020 2:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Absolutely. The coming weeks or months will show how deep people have their head stuck in the sand. The medical side of this is so utterly ridiculous that a person would have to have their head on screwed backwards to fall for the crap.

As far as breaking point, we’ll see though. In the 1950s, the CIA staged Operation Splinter Factor with the aim of making communist apparatchiks in the Second World paranoid about traitors in their ranks and instigating purges. The CIA figured that the bolsheviks would unleash so much terror on the population that people wouldn’t be able to stand it, would rise up, and would overturn the regime. It didn’t work. People succumbed to the terror.

I’m hearing now that people will stand up to this once they reach a breaking point, but that might be the wrong assumption.

richard
richard
Sep 29, 2020 3:27 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“We call on politicians to be independently and critically informed” (taken from above article).

No-one cares that you know George but maybe informed politicians can do summit.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 4:38 PM
Reply to  richard

Why would “informed politicians” be able to do anything? Something very big is going on here. Either politicians already know – in which case, if they were going to do anything, they would have done it by now. Or they don’t know because they don’t need to know. And once they find out, what will they do? They all serve the same interests and it’s those interests who are calling the shots.

In any case, the damage has already been done. The new foundation has been laid. If there is any hope at all, it will come from the public. But only if the public unite. And of course that’s when the divide-and-rule will go into overdrive.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 29, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I am sick to the back teeth of this shit.

And it is shit.

There are plenty of Tory politicians kicking off about it George.

Don’t suit your socialist politics though to they!

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 29, 2020 8:11 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

You have a Tory government in charge and they are the ones controlling and pushing this fascism. There is no opposition. It’s a contrived show.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 8:32 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Shh Researcher, JP’s getting mighty shirty now! He’s sick! To the back teeth! So just pipe down and let the show resume!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 30, 2020 5:30 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, National Party… It doesn’t matter what party they belong to – they all serve higher up – those who sit at the top of the pile. Here in Australia, it’s been Labour Party politicians who have been the most gung ho about imposing oppressive covid measures. End of the day, its all a confected Punch & Judy Show.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 29, 2020 8:30 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Ooh Tory …and Keir Starmer …Tory ….Starmer!

Mmm… nah, can’t see it!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 29, 2020 11:42 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I think you’re too pretty

George McFetridge
George McFetridge
Sep 29, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Politicians are doing the usual boneheaded version of ‘social order’ in a corrupt societal reality – ours. Of course it’s utterly wrong. It has to be because the societal reality is. Their actions must be read as indicative of a deep disorder -ours. Instead of complaining, one can look closely at how one actually lives. And question that seriously. If we don’t change, that’s it for us, as in, this is not the worst it can get.

Hetton
Hetton
Sep 29, 2020 2:06 PM

Nobody destroys their own economy if they don’t need to, it is political suicide in a democracy, but in a vassal dictatorship it can serve many oppresive aims.

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 1:39 PM

Gunnar Kaiser reads his story “A People of Crawlers”
from the volume “The People of Coronation Street”.
https://kaisertv.de/2020/09/11/ein-volk-von-kriechern-2/

Translation https://textuploader.com/1pl5j

Spoken by the author

Arne
Arne
Sep 29, 2020 4:07 PM
Reply to  Arne

The above story is worth reading (textuploader is a legal website for space-saving storage of texts). Kinda humorous dystopia, which does not quite coincidentally show clear parallels to the corona “pandemic”. Another episode (“A terrible discovery”) is already online as a podcast (but not yet as a script for translation).

It deals with pensioners who will be “more closely guarded than Ford Knox” in old people’s homes, completely isolated in a society gripped by totalitarian healthism. The Orwellian incident occurs after no viruses but relatives have entered. The investigator was commissioned to solve his own “crime” of secretly cutting hair and nails of his dad in a wheelchair.

Shin
Shin
Sep 29, 2020 1:18 PM

What ever happened to doubt! Did doubt somehow vanish of the face of the earth? What is wrong with the young generation when doubt means nothing. Doubt answers questions that may or will never be asked. In my old age, i feel something has gone amiss with the younger generation. Acceptance it seems has overruled doubt.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 29, 2020 1:28 PM