WATCH: The Parallels Between 9/11 and Covid19
Kevin Ryan‘s video presentation for the 9/11 Truth Film Festival, held in September to mark the 19th anniversary, discusses the many parallels between the Covid19 narrative, and roll out of the “official conspiracy theory” in the wake of 9/11. From the incessant fear-based media coverage, to the signs of opportunistic corruption, to the smearing of critics in the mainstream media, to the oddly prescient “exercises”…the clear signs of a psychological operation are there.
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Another parallel, unexplained “novelty” COVID-19: We are told that SARS-CoV-2 is a “novel” virus and yet no clear evidence of how it is novel other than ascription of a large amount of illness and death to it has been presented with regard to its novel nature. We have been given no sense of why or how it is so virulent, why it kills people, makes them seriously ill or is particularly infectious where other coronaviruses do not exhibit these characteristics in a similar manner. We have not be told of a specific symptom (or set of symptoms) that tends to be more virulent in those allegedly suffering from COVID-19 or otherwise given a single clue as to how the nature of this virus causes it to manifest so differently from other coronaviruses. 9/11: NIST lead investigator, Shyam Sunder says of the collapse of WTC-7: “We really have a new kind of progressive collapse that… Read more »
Have some info about the two events. Thanks for your information http://www.universalfreedom.online
Do the gatekeepers understand the irony that they identify the gate?
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Noam Chomsky Debunks 9/11 and JFK Murder
Apr 13, 2008
Adam Phoenix
See Noam Chomsky speaking in Budapest at the Kossuth Klub hosted by the “Lehet Mas a Vilag.” He is debunking the conspiracy behind 9/11 events and claiming that JFK murder is irrelevant. This is the original and unedited footage as presented by onegoodmove.org
[btw: the video uploader doesn’t understand the word “debunk”]
The “controlled scientific experiment” analogy that he uses is an interesting choice of words. And then he says it is “distracting people from serious issues” – what could be more serious!?
Re: “distracting people from serious issues”
The same line has recently been pushed by Caitlin Johnstone: “QAnon is a fake, decoy imitation of a healthy revolutionary impulse . . .”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/20/kamala-kabbalah/#comment-225964
Truth irrelevant to those with agenda such as leftist Noam
I wonder if it’s possible to approach this rationally and somewhat scientifically? I don’t mean to sound condescending or disrespectful, but it helps to focus on the evidentiary and easily observable facts rather than lots of hyperbolic Fantasia like gods, satan, Molok (or whoever Hillary is worshiping this year). The exercises that coincided with this, the preliminary legislation/ political maneuvers, the market and big biz developments are all we need to see that this ‘plandemic’ is more than just the elites typical, ‘never let a good tragedy go to waste’. Lots of pieces were placed to get us here into a damn near checkmate. Don’t muddy the waters please so we can all see more clearly what is really transpiring.
Well it stands to reason that a completely rational and useful comment would immediately get a “down-vote,” doesn’t it?
As I’ve said previously: 9/11 was the NWO’s first attempt at the “Great Reset”, but it got derailed by the invasion of Iraq. Global Warming was the second attempt, but it got derailed by Climategate. Covid911 is the third attempt, but it’s being derailed by MAGA. A proper account requires understanding the agenda, the projects, and the derailments. https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/13/watch-covid-911-from-homeland-security-to-biosecurity/#comment-239024 And as William Blake said 200 years ago, the NWO agenda is Satanic. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Milton_(excerpts)/Preface Believe Christ & his Apostles that there is a Class of Men whose whole delight is in Destroying. And did those feet in ancient time, Walk upon England’s mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God, On England’s pleasant pastures seen? And did the Countenance Divine, Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here, Among these dark Satanic Mills? Bring me my Bow of burning gold! Bring me my Arrows of desire! Bring… Read more »
CGI 3D Animated Short “I, Pet Goat II” by – Heliofant
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Sep 25, 2013
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A story about the fire at the heart of suffering.
Bringing together dancers, musicians, visual artists and 3d animators, the film takes a critical look at current events. A mysterious figure travels aboard his boat through a dark and desolate landscape in his quest for inner peace.
While flashing the 666 sign, Harley Guy states: “I witnessed the entire thing; from beginning to end”.
Great points. Coincidentally, some tool on my local news site posted a comment the other day to the effect of “This is our new 9-11! Remember how we would have done anything to prevent more terrorists from killing Americans? We need to band together and do that now! Take this seriously!”
It seems that the same douchebags who lapped up the Patriot Act, are now equally lathered up about the seriousness of this new threat.
Please forgive my name calling. I got too pissed off for a minute.
There’s nothing to forgive.
Personally, when I read the tool/douchebag’s quote I thought it belonged in an encyclopedia article on “Useful Idiots”– a textbook example, as it were.
Thanks Ort. Hope you are having a lovely day 🙂
You’re welcome. Your kind response is indeed an evening ray of sunshine in an unpleasantly rainy, chilly day.
I’m glad to hear it! Sorry, was offline for the weekend. Hope you were able to get a warm drink and somewhere cozy to enjoy the weather.
Just heard about something called “Long COVID” which may consist of four different syndromes. They’re certainly working hard on this one. But then again, when they start running out of ideas, they have a good century’s worth of science fiction and horror stories to raid.
I have read or heard someone else describing Long Covid as being the feeling of exhaustion brought on by the constant bullshit, day after day.
“Long COVID”…..Yeh straight from the maggots who work for Sage.
Another satisfying tale of hubris and retribution emerging, this time from an Orwellian suggestion re: language: https://qz-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/qz.com/1830347/social-distancing-isnt-the-right-language-for-what-covid-19-asks-of-us/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16028374518226&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fqz.com%2F1830347%2Fsocial-distancing-isnt-the-right-language-for-what-covid-19-asks-of-us%2F First the language bit. We must change our terminology. “Social distancing” gives the wrong impression for what is going to be the long haul (read: “forever”). “Physical distancing” is more acceptable. Now the epic vision: “The neoliberal project of letting the markets solve everything, and hoping humans could scrape by, was stretched more and more by evidence of pending ecological collapse, rising inequality, and a tide of migration that challenged even the most welcoming of countries. It really was all so fragile. And then with Covid-19, it fell apart.” So here we are getting a reversal of the old “There is no alternative” rhetoric. The entire neoliberal project was doomed from the start. Note that exhilarating accumulation of disaster culminating in COVID. “And yet it also became abundantly clear, with this virus, that… Read more »
@George. Liked the “all in this together” bit. Seem to have heard it before, somewhere.
Re: language, the better and more accurate term would be ‘antisocial’ distancing, the intent and purpose of which is to keep people apart, instill instinctive fear of others, and is mandated and precisely quantified.
“Social distancing” is an oxymoron and therefore could be taken as part of the deliberate disorientation.
Of course, its anti-social distancing, but they won’t give the correct name or some might start to ask questions.
Until the fabled pandemic, globalism was the motto of the Masters of the Universe. Now, though they are scrambling to complete their plunder, they must also “spin on a dime” to come up with alternatives to critical issues including food – if they are to escape the rioting.
From the article:
Everything about this is so disturbing.
Also the words chosen for the title:
You have to read these articles carefully. I have found a lot of “pep talk” type stuff about how “we the people” managed to influence the media and govt – but without actually explaining how this astonishing development happened.
Will keep an eye out for the pep talk, thanks! Although I really have trouble reading almost any news lately, I find it so laden with disgusting propaganda that I just get too frustrated reading it.
This is one of the reasons I feel such disgust for the mainstream Left: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/great-barrington-declaration-herd-immunity-scientific-divide “The problem is that we aren’t in lockdown. Across the UK, pubs, restaurants, schools and universities are all largely open. The kind of lockdown that the Great Barrington Declaration seems to be railing against hasn’t been in place in the UK since mid-June. Even in places like Manchester which are under local lockdown restrictions, pubs, restaurants and schools are still open and it’s hard to find people who are advocating for a return to the lockdown we saw in March. When the Great Barrington Declaration authors declare their opposition to lockdowns, they are quite literally arguing with the past.” The implication is that nothing much is going on. Things are just kinda normal really! Never mind that the entire economy is tanking. There is this constant downplaying of the situation where the very real and… Read more »
in donegal we now have NO VISITING other houses but some other things go on. none of it makes sense.
Heads up George… the latest The Corbett Report video is a must see. He calls out the fake phony pseudo socialists by name for their shameful support for these authoritarian measures and that have devastated so many lives, especially the working class.
He names names, including Tim Anderson, Galloway and Moon of Alabama. Unfortunately he didn’t get round to naming the ‘bogan socialist’ aka Caitlin Johnstone. And no, you’re not the only one who feels disgust.
I doubt any of them are wondering where their food for next week will be coming from, or when they can actually earn a living again. These cretins couldn’t give a flying feck about the working class.
Eva Bartlett mentioned it on her Facebook page as well.
I just watched that Corbett report and appreciated his naming of names but then it seems to me that Galloway was always a clown and MoA is a kinda “fringe site”. There are more damaging examples of Left wankery – the WSWS being one of them. These are particularly lethal since they represent part of a respected Left tradition. I never heard of a “bogan socialist” but whilst surfing around I stumbled on this comment: “I believe Ms Johnston calls herself a Bogan socialist. That’s about as far away from the right as possible.” So just because she called herself something, that means she’s “as far away from the right as possible”? These are the kind of comments I read and feel that intelligence is dead. As for the bit about fake rebel music, I have no idea who these people are. I vaguely recall the guy who had a… Read more »
Occult background to the Covid fraud. This video is long (don’t need to watch it all), and please don’t be put off by the language and accent of the presenter (Bro.Sanchez), but he gives fascinating information on the occult background and language used by the planners – traditions going back many years.
I’m not sure that everything he says is true, and I’m still needing time to digest the info – but it is certainly food for thought and can help our understanding of what is really going on in the world today.
A FEAR CAMPAIGN
https://youtu.be/tW2zKerIVtU
They’ve already removed it… 😠 Like they’re removing literally anything they deem a threat, even if it’s only had a few thousand views.
Google is controlled by NSA, Twitter the FBI, mainstream media news the CIA…. All countries worldwide suppresses and censors info some more than others. It will only intensify as AI technology improves.
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This is one of his better videos:
https://youtu.be/HeMsaN6xjAQ
Thanks Charlotte. Maybe we’ll all end up having to do Samizdat the way things are going.
Having major problems trying to post comments at Offguardian in the last 9-10 days, especially since the DDoS stuff started up again. I don’t have a computer, only a smartphone.
Tried to reply a few times now. Hope your weekend goes well👍
Just a coincidence?
Description
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The 2013 edition of Pandemic includes two new characters—the Contingency Planner and the Quarantine Specialist—not available in earlier editions of the game.
Complete page: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30549/pandemic
Kevin’s overview is important. It’s very coherent. I’ll use it in my next blog post, partly because I see that he’s being censored and I feel that we have to back each other here. (My blog gets zero views some days. Of course, WordPress partnered with Google’s First Draft Coalition, so it’s no surprise that views like mine, which mostly are an amplification of other anti-covid 1984 views, somehow get suppressed.)
Kevin’s weakness: He sees things from within the Rockefeller health care ideological outlook.
My weakness: I don’t have specialized knowledge of any kind and my math is beyond bad. I can’t confirm or disconfirm statements on either side of Covid 1984 via my own number-crunching therefore. That’s not ideal.
I quite liked the quotes by Peter Thiel given.
There’s plenty of direct evidence that the “attacks” of 9/11/2001 were well planned in advance. As most here already know, the covid scamdemic was also well planned in advance. As on 9/11/2001, public media outlets are bought and paid assets of CIA and Mossad propaganda mechanisms.
Many here have probably seen this presentation before. It is well worth watching in it’s entirety.
PLANDEMIC 2
https://www.brighteon.com/e447f1e1-dbee-437f-9c6f-a6e955c566b6
I’m a little to tired to comment with my usual razor sharp intellect. I know that many of you must have been missing me while I have been mixing with parochial types on another site. Pfft, I’m better off with my fellow lunatics and crazies on here. Anyway. Enough of that bollox. There are certainly elements of psyop in all of this, but my central thesis is that I don’t (personally) believe that this was planned in order to provide a pretext to instigate an authoritarian revolution. Rather they (meaning probably the NATO/ WOT crew) had clubbed together to decide what they would do in the even that a plague was to sweep the globe. They just forgot to tell their citizens about it. (Well presumably they considered that the plebs didn’t have to know). I don’t think it can be sensibly reasoned that (as James Corbett pointed out some… Read more »
the entire script seems to have been previewed in a Hollywood movie in 2011.
I don’t know how you can reconcile that fact with your limited-hangout “not planned” theory.
not even to mention, of course, the Rockefeller “Lockstep” documents, or Event 201.
Just like the Novichok/ Skripal/ Navalny sagas.
Here are the Torygraphs 6 tips for getting through the “cold , dark, season “….
Take a walk outside – even if the weather is terrible
Phone a friend
Do some winter gardening
Listen to music
Keep a gratitude journal
Accept that things are tough
Followed by …..”It can be strangely liberating to accept that things are out of your control. Rather than beat yourself up that things aren’t going as well as they should be, try to realise that it’s OK for the world to be uncertain. At the end of the day, there’s not much you can do about the pandemic from your living room.”
Awww !! Bless !
I am not a fan of Alex Jones, that caveat being stated, he does occasionally convey legitimate information and this interview with Aaron Russell not long before he died shows Rockefeller et al are behind the events of 9-11.
Rockefeller and 9-11
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FuinaIm-kd4
And we also know Rockefeller are behind all the blood for oil profiteering of the last 100 years, the smart meters in everyone’s homes, and behind ICLEI, GRCN, Strong Cities, the entire vaccine industry, the fraud of viruses, the pseudo science in modeling and epidemiology and this fake pandemic.
Hello Researcher: Aaron Russo’s “Freedom to Fascism” was truly a work of genius. I hadn’t seen this video before. Excellent! Thank you for your many informative posts.
You’re welcome. Thanks Paul.
Yes. Sorry, Russo not Russell. I was distracted by Mary’s post, which indicates what’s going to be happening globally… Not good news:
https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/canadian-control-measures-just-the-tip-of-the-earth-sized-iceberg
Confirmed by this:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dAFXX7jg9g3Y/
I rewatched Russo’s F2F during the scamdemic, for the first time since I saw its NYC premier with a Q & A with Russo back in aught-six. It’s a classic. (Quick aside, I took an intern from my job at the time, and the kid FREAKED OUT. My then-girlfriend-now-wife fell asleep. She does that.)
Anyway, upon revisitation, the production values DO NOT hold up, and the topical shift from “income-tax-is-a-fraud” to “they-are-going-to-chip-us-for-a-cashless-society” is kind of a non sequitur, if you weren’t steeped in apocalyptic conspiracy study already.
BUT it was singularly prescient and precise in its outline of what was coming.
The last 25 minutes of the film pretty much foresaw everything now being implemented, under cover of the bolognavirus.
That really takes me back; I remember the spooky sensation of learning that Russo had been “got” by TFIC and was going to die… and then, very quickly, he did. I have F2F buried in my files somewhere. Back then (2006, as you say), I had the incredibly optimistic feeling that TFIC were on the verge of being exposed… so much evidence against them!… I didn’t yet grasp how immune to enlightenment (and vulnerable to TFIC control) Duh Masses are. And then I watched one obvious hoax after another roll off the assembly line… do you remember the “Cassidy Stay” hoax? When the hoax teams “jumped the shark”? It was at that point that I began to suspect that Duh Masses (of Murrkka) were literally retarded:
Like you, there was a time 12-15 years ago when I thought 9/11 and the TFIC would be exposed. I also remember how common it was to read online comments along the lines of “the tide is turning, people are waking up” etc. Yeah, it never happened, and here we are.
Sorry, I realize I didn’t need “the” in front of TFIC.
Har! It’s like “hoi polloi” in that sense (ironically)
Never happened. Nope. We need “Seriously Thought the Tide Was Turning” group-therapy sessions for the hundreds of thousands (millions?) like us. Chapters in every town. Except, of course, TFIC would infiltrate that, too, and turn it into a melon-twisting clusterfuck, just to twist the knife a little more, eh? Meanwhile: PLAN B: let’s all start chanting for that meteor strike… can’t hurt…
Thanks for that. I needed a chuckle.
i don’t remember that, and watching it now I really don’t know what I’m looking at. “Deflected off her finger?” I abolished all broadcast and cable TeeVee content from my household around 2008/09. Just couldn’t stand having my intelligence insulted like that anymore, in any dosage. Of course, that’s why this scamdemic caught me so by surprise. I had no idea how outlandish mainstream Narratives had become, and how slavishly accepting the Herd had become to them. (I sort of knew about trans-worship-ism and I knew Trump was somehow president, but I didn’t really appreciate the depths of derangement that stuff represented.) Most importantly, because TeeVee-Babble had become totally alien to me, their Fear tricks didn’t have sway on me. I instantly recognized it for empty hysteria, and was just outside of it watching in befuddlement. When the toilet paper riots started, I was just chuckling to myself. Then when… Read more »
Being sane is not the best preparation for facing this “Reality” they’re building.
Well, think of it this way: how many people believe in the “Virgin birth”….? And will argue with you all day and all night in unwavering defense of the assertion… ?
Yes, I’m here in the US and there have been an unending stream of shooting hoaxes. The fakery is so obvious, yet the masses still fall for it ever time. Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombings were the first big ones, then the others were smaller operations. Dave McGowan did the best work on the Boston Bombing hoax, where he demonstrated the fakery in a video presentation with John B Wells of Caravan to Midnight. Then shortly after that presentation, McGowan came down with a fast acting cancer.
And of course all of the shooting hoaxes were all about getting the guns. It’s quite obvious now why they gave us the 2nd amendment–they knew about governmental tyranny.
Dave’s work is so extensive, and so valuable… I’m glad his Daughter(s) kept the material available and I hope it hasn’t been tampered with. His analysis of The Boston Event was perfect and devastating to The Mainstream Narrative.
Yes, I agree. He did exceptional research–if more people followed his work, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in right now.
That’s a very frightening article (the nexus post) – can it be verified? I don’t want to start freaking everyone out by sharing it until I can be sure it’s authentic.
https://humansarefree.com/2020/10/canadian-government-erecting-a-network-of-covid-detainment-camps.html
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/politician-raises-alarm-over-trudeau-govts-plan-to-build-covid-quarantine-isolation-camps
https://www.deagel.com/forecast
https://www.globalcurrencyreset.org/
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/14/watch-the-parallels-between-9-11-and-covid19/#comment-258701
Read the entire comment and look at all the links. It was leaked from a STRAP meeting. You’re not going to ever get confirmation from a leak. You’re going to have to connect the dots yourself.
But it looks legit based on what I’ve been seeing in the legislation being passed globally. Such as this:
You had to know this was never about a virus. It was always about Agenda 21.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/15/twitter-biden-and-the-new-york-post-social-media-censorship-kicks-up-a-gear/#comment-259049
I keep replying to you, but for some reason it doesn’t get posted. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/politician-raises-alarm-over-trudeau-govts-plan-to-build-covid-quarantine-isolation-camps You won’t find confirmation from a leak. It’s a leak. Of an email from someone who attended a STRAP meeting from the Prime Ministers Office. Seems genuine. Fits in with what has been happening. Especially legislation that’s being passed globally. In the 5eyes. New York incoming Assembly Bill A992019-2020 Legislative Session Relates to the REMOVAL of cases, contacts and carriers of communicable diseases who are potentially dangerous to the public health https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2019/A99 Global Currency Reset. Using people as commodities. https://www.globalcurrencyreset.org/ “Surveillance Capitalism“. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvw Population Forecast for 2025. https://www.deagel.com/forecast Canada goes from 38 million to 24 in less than five years. All the NATO countries are the main targets for the depopulation agenda. Agenda 21 aka The Great Reset https://americanpolicy.org/2019/02/25/green-new-deal-reveals-the-naked-truth-of-agenda-21/ The banksters want to rid the planet of several billion people and seize their assets. That’s why… Read more »
@Researcher: “we” know.
I didn’t know, that Rockefeller “is behind the entire vaccine industry”. But that would explain Bill Gates moving into vaccines, because Gates is related to the Rockefeller clan.
All the cryptocracy are related.
They hand down their power and wealth through generations. That’s why they are obsessed with eugenics.
All the presidents except for one, have the same ancestor. Not a coincidence.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uw2mkHmIKOA
Researcher, thanks for that very illuminating Link to the POTU$A Bloodline (uncovered by Local Girl) and your comment: that’s why “they’re obsessed with eugenics”. Which shades into Nazism.
“Eugenics and Other Evils” — GK Chesterton
National ‘Socialism’, was the political rebuttal to the threat of communism in Germany after the war; this was a very real threat for a decade or more as Germany was in a constant state of chaos and revolutionary activity and the implementation of communist governments in various jurisdictions. This was the unfortunate ‘blowback’ of the German government’s financing of Lenin’s activities (Lenin was actually evading arrest by the Russian government for treason before the coup of 1917), and the hoped-for world wide communist revolution which affected many countries. Eugenics was the darling of socialists; not a particularly offensive policy during the first half of the 20th century, (and state policy in many nations and provinces worldwide), especially to intellectuals and technocrat social engineers. The eugenics idealistic fad was simply absorbed into NS policy as part of their socialist program, and became the justification for their ultimate extreme expression of it.… Read more »
You don’t know anything about the cryptocracy or their eugenics beliefs. They believe intermarrying preserves their bloodline. RH negative. Eugenics was not the darling of socialists. It came out of the Monarchies’ belief that they were superior beings, descendants of gods who should interbreed to increase their intellect and keep themselves separate from the rest of humanity. Eugenics beliefs along with Luciferianism, usury, Kabbala, Freemasonry, Jesuits and other secret societies such as the Knights Templar and the Rosicrucians eventually morphed into eugenics as a pseudo science under Darwin, Huxley et al then spread to America where it was taken up by Henry Ford, Rockefeller and the bankers and politicians. The American Eugenics movement sent Hitler and the Nazi party the material they used to justify eliminating J_ws, homosexuals, the mentally ill, communists, Marxists, socialists, anarchists and Gypsies. Hitler got all his “best ideas” (so he claimed) from the US branch… Read more »
Aaron Russo FYI
I already corrected my mistake above. I was reading something important when I wrote comment.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/14/watch-the-parallels-between-9-11-and-covid19/#comment-258704
Do you have your own blog at all?Relatively new here and enjoy your posts immensely. Frightening, but need to know what the fight is against.
Thanks, but no I do not. Basically, we are up against the people who have been running the world since before we were born. Going back centuries, maybe even millennia. Usury is how it’s achieved in a top down manner. If you control the money supply you control the military and the politicians. If you control the money supply in every country you’ll also own the shareholder majority in all the major transnational corporations, such as the thousand corporations that make up the members of the IMF’s new Digital Global Currency Reset soon to be announced. So, think of the world as an organized controlled place, not a place where random and chaotic events occur but where everything is connected. Where the newsfeed is entirely propaganda meant to make us think what the “controllers” of the system want us to think about. But it’s always presented to us in a… Read more »
No i haven’t but I will certainly follow up on it. Everything you state is pretty much how I see things going. I find it hard to believe how quickly lockstep happened. Can people not understand how unprecedented this is? It points to totalitarian control. We had the chance to kick the moneylenders out the temples all those years ago. We never learned the lesson.
Regarding the total number of US COVID deaths in Kevin Ryan’s video, now a bit over 200,000 deaths. Kevin Ryan compares the US COVID deaths to a figure of 80,000 “flu” deaths in 2017 in his video presenation. The US CDC uses at least three wildly different total death numbers for “pneumonia and influenza” and “influenza/flu” deaths each year: about 188,000 on the FluView web site, about 55,000 in the annual leading causes of death report, and about 80,000 “flu deaths” in 2017 from a mathematical model. The CDC FluView web site which purports to report the percentage of weekly deaths due to “pneumonia and influenza” claims over six percent of deaths each year are due to pneumonia and influenza, implied to be caused by the influenza virus. The percent is shown explicitly in a scary graphic on the web site. This graphic is based on data files from the National Center… Read more »
That’s because their flu figures are false. They’re based on “associations” as you know from reading Peter Doshi’s papers which I found very interesting too, several months ago. Any of the rapid diagnostic tests for the flu are probably testing for a nucleuc acid or a protein anyway. Not a virus. They’re likely to be as scientifically meaningless as the RT-PCR tests for covid19. I don’t believe there are actually any flu deaths at all. When I started investigating cases of children reportedly dying of the flu, all I could find in each case was cardiac arrest and/or organ from bacterial infections or meningitis. Not exactly what you’d think of as flu deaths. I’d bet money that upon careful examination in each of these laboratory confirmed flu cases you would probably find another cause of death on their chart, in their medical records or autopsy results. The CDC is not… Read more »
Also, with the medicalisation of life, especially old age, they need a catch-all category that casts as little blame as possible on their dud treatments and specialities, e.g. for BP, diabetes, heart disease, depression, etc.
Torygraph comes to the rescue…
“Local lockdowns could persist for several months, leading to a daunting and difficult winter. If your area is under one, read Alice Hall’s six-month positivity plan with tips to help you get through the cold, dark season.”
Does anyone buy this crap ?
It is all from SAGE’s SPI-B ‘bahavoural modification’ group. They initially advised using the media to pimp up the fear levels, and now that ‘people are living in fear’, they are conditioning them to accept the paranoia.
Sadly yes. Even many highly educated and remunerated people believe the government and media are acting in our interest and mostly tell the truth.
@Admin1 https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/14/watch-the-parallels-between-9-11-and-covid19/#comment-258481 “There is no evidence any of the steel was ‘dustified’. Calculations have been done on this that refute Wood’s data-free assertions” People have begun to lose sight of the fact that psychologically “fanciful,” or economically “fanciful,” or sociologically “fanciful” “Conspiracy Theories”… what we used to deal in, predominately… are nevertheless wholly plausible and certainly within the realm of the possible and that was the very point: that was the line that “mainstream thought” couldn’t cross and what we were trying to do was pull “Normies” over that line: no, your “leaders” don’t love you, aren’t in power to protect you and yes they may also be conspiring to impoverish, confuse or even kill you. Those days, when we were energetically pursuing that goal (of widening the critical circle of The Thinkable), were the Internet-fueled peak of the Golden Age of “Conspiracy Theory”. Now, welcome to the mad and… Read more »
We used to be engaged, largely, in serious (and thankless) work. Now we’re trapped in an Internet Fun House playing a Parapolitical Parlor Game called PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FLAVOR OF THE WEEK.
Cass Sunstein 2, Parapolitical Effectiveness 0.
it’s almost like somebody planned it that way.
“it’s almost like somebody planned it that way….”
.. and even arrogantly announced, in public, the intention to do so…
You are ‘suddenly’ hearing the virus theory is false? Because you have never questioned the belief. I’ve studied this for some years now and since it was coined and rendered the official narrative of a medical monopoly there have always been those who have challenged its assumptions. And now you think this line of questioning is false? As if conjured up to spoil your information war to convert normies? But the challenge to virus theory is not least because it operates a cover story for vested interests to persist in toxic and trojan agenda that generates huge profits and huge leverage over human institutions and endeavour. The terrain theory may be as meaningless to you as some would find considering social causes for criminal behaviour. Yet we are social beings and a breakdown of communication and support will result in negatively polarised actions and consequences. Human beings have acquired a… Read more »
Binra: A) Where did you get the impression that I needed a primer on the “Covid-19 Hoax”? Where have I written anything that is pro-“Covid-19 Hoax”? And: B) I’m curious as to what clues tipped you off to “question the belief” in the reality of viruses. Some of these clues would have to be medical, of course, or there would be the distinct possibility that you were merely misinterpreting the fact that TFIC are spinning lies regarding certain viruses, quite independent of the validity (or not) of Virus Theory. Remember: I don’t need a run-down of why you think TFIC would hoax Virus Theory itself; I’m only interested in the observations that led you to conclude that “all viruses are a hoax.” For example: I began to suspect (after initially being horrified by the reports of the event) that “Sandy Hook” was a Hoax when I observed that not one… Read more »
I responded to your association of ‘fake virus theory’ with crackpot disinfo fed to ‘normies’. I wasn’t implying you ‘needed’ anything. I feel there is a paradigm-shifting opportunity in ‘terrain theory’ as the expansion and embrace of ‘psycho-pathogenic’ ‘feary’ within a living and connected perspective. ‘Distancing’ to psychopathogenic thinking is survival or salvation – and attacking the whole (divide and rule) is its predicate OF which it has no recognition BUT which it projects onto its world and in specific, projects to scapegoat or false flag in order to attack it there, or divert attention and funding accordingly. I have never been invested in the pharma model, nor in the kind of reductionist science that spawned it. So I have had very little interaction with it though out my adult life. But nor did I seek to understand why. It wasn’t a focus of interest. Changes in life brought me… Read more »
(I’ve responded but I’m waiting to get out of Spam Prison)
I found you to be hard to follow. I don’t exactly what you said.
Hmmm, Arby, can’t help you with that.
That’s a great comment – please consider expanding it and submitting it for ATL!
Thanks very much, Admin1; to be quite honest, that comment is the best I can do at expressing that sentiment… I’m not very good at padding ideas to get the word-count up! Laugh.
We’ll say no more of it then! Nice comment though. A2
You do an astoundingly accurate Tom Hulce impression, Admin2! Nice one.
Canada will be turned into a giant prison camp. These horrific plans were leaked by an annonymous member of their Liberal Party. It lists the intentions for Canada in the near future by their Strategic Planning Committee. See link below for the whole ghastly list. This is just one part of it …… The federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever. The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification… Read more »
Just read this… and my jaw hit the ground.
This will be everywhere, and you know what’s already been happening here in Victoria. The absolute treachery is beyond words. Comply with what we say, or be locked up forever. Stalin would have blushed at this. Will try and share as widely as possible.
that doesn’t smell like disinfo bullshit, at all.
After everything we have witnessed and experienced in 2020, these horrific plans sound plausible. In fact, they are congruent with everything we know about the WEF’s Great Reset. If this is legitimate, it’s confirmation of our worst fears. Let’s hope it’s fake.
Let’s hope it’s fake.
it’s obviously fake. and a far-right fake, at that.
Why do you think that? Because it was allegedly a “dissident liberal”?
because even under the Official Story, there’s no rational connection between “debt forgiveness” and “lockdown restrictions”. if they ever attempted to sell that, it would be an open admission of the utter fraudulence of the entire COVID-1984 narrative.
it’s complete nonsense, a far-right delusional fantasy.
I really don’t know. One could connect debt forgiveness to the official story via “ohh the pandemic made everybody poorer”. It’s far-fetched, but the people who still believe the official story will believe anything.
I agree. They could sell it. It’s already been proven that most people will believe anything they’re told.
Even if it’s a fantasy, I don’t see how it’s a far-right one.
This info has been leaked from an anonymous source, that’s true, and I don’t blame the person for remaining anonymous. So I can’t verify the source at this stage. I also hope its fake – but somehow I doubt it.
I wish it was fake. But I doubt it.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/imf-seizes-on-covid-crisis-to-pave-way-for-privatization-in-81-countries/271917/
Canadian Military orders massive amounts of Tear Gas and is scouting for Quarantine camps:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dAFXX7jg9g3Y/
The International Monetary Fund has granted debt relief/forgiveness to 25 poor countries for a six month period “to help them meet the costs incurred in fighting the pandemic”. This ends on 31 october 2020. I cannot find the conditions imposed by the IMF for this dispensation. They try to make us believe that the IMF has generously cancelled debts owed to them by these poor (and expoited) countries. But you can be sure that the IMF will want their pound of flesh. Its called ‘asset stripping’, or ‘theft’. So I can believe that their ‘covid relief’ program for all countries will be an offer to forgive any private person who has debts …… with conditions attached. I may be wrong, but I suspect that their plans for Canada, in my previous post, will also be their plan for all countries, starting with the OECD ones first, where most of the… Read more »
Seems that Canada is almost a lost cause ….
https://humansarefree.com/2020/10/canadian-government-erecting-a-network-of-covid-detainment-camps.html
Yes, the IMF has always demanded its pound of flesh. In the 1980s, there were “conditionalities” attached to its loans to poor countries. These consisted of “structural adjustment” programs which privatized virtually everything so transnational corporations could buy up all of the assets at rock-bottom prices. The IMF is a global loan sharking operation.
Not virually everything, but state corporations were the target, usually insolvent, inefficient, and run by Party bosses, as personal piggy banks subsidised by the state.
Deliberately run down so they would be vulnerable to takeover (at very low price) for the aggressive corporations and their mates in the IMF. All public assets will be privatised (piratised) in the new world order.
Include private assets belonging to you and me – they will want these as well.
The Canadian Constitution, despite many calls to amend it under both Conservative and Liberal governments for the past 30 years still does not embrace property rights. Canada also has, and uses, the wonderful Orders in Council, which allows implementation of virtually any policy the government wishes, with no debate in parliament, and which is created in secrecy. In other venues this would be known as a Dictator’s Decree. But parliament is old hat anyway; to be simply suspended it if there’s too much heat. Debating is tedious, and the public may find out things if the state media, and bought media slips up and informs them. The few small media outlets that try are demonised and prohibited from attending government ‘press conferences’ and events; literally run off by security. Recently, in the Ontario parliament, an independent member inquired about a Federal invitation to quote for the construction of detainment centres.… Read more »
There is a high level of personal debt in Canada.
https://www.macleans.ca/economy/covid-19-has-created-a-debt-crisis-for-canadian-households/
He makes some good points, even though most of us are aware of the parallels already. What is needed is not just the observation of what is going on, and of course that’s important, but what can be done about it. We need to have a retaliatory plan. It needs to be good. That’s what we should be talking about. But not on here. That makes it difficult. Where they want a cashless society, we should insist on a society which uses cash. or start a currency of our own. They killed Muammar Gaddafi – because he aimed to start a currency in competition with the petro-dollar. They killed Ceausescu because Romania was a communist country and had got rid of its national debt. These men by mainstream media were portrayed as pariahs – and it stuck. I mentioned in a previous comment my reconnaissance where I set off on… Read more »
The Next Best Thing would be using rather old, rather cheap “Dumb” Phones that run on (no name) credit rather than a contract. A compromise of sorts that seriously cuts down on the mobile’s function as your State Informant.
Try A) replacing your wireless mouse with a good old USB mouse, or B) clean the fuzz-gunk, accumulating around the little tracking ball in your non-laser mouse, with tweezers or C) change mouse batteries D) look to the surface you’re using as the “mouse pad”… is it reflective?
Thanks Steven. I agree I should have an older computer. The trouble is all mine have been brought down and I’ve got one with a pad and it is a mouse pad. It reflects if that is what reflective means. It is well worn in the middle.
he means get a proper USB mouse, not one of those stupid trackpads. I don’t know how anybody can get anything done with those stupid things. maybe that’s the point; you’re not supposed to get anything done. leave that to the Proper Authorities, while you dumb plebs play with Fakebook and Shwitter.
For all the talk of smart devices, the PC and laptop were too smart and independent for the schemers. Hence the propaganda and pressure to herd the flock back to dumb trackable terminals – that must download everything including apps on the fly.
Where can you get old gear these days which isn’t worn out?
Get a formerly-cutting-edge PC from c. ten years ago; look in the “classifieds,” always better to purchase from private parties and stick to the rule of a low budget… buy from a Gamer, probably and suck all the dust out as soon as you buy it (and try to avoid any Operating System later than Windows 8, just as you should avoid Macs.) If it uses at least 16gb of ram, it will probably work for the foreseeable future online. I am absolutely NO PC expert, btw. I use three PCs and the serious one (for editing) never goes online; my online workhorse I’ve been using for almost ten years now, zero problems, cost me 200 Euros new. NEVER let Windows update automatically…
try to avoid any Operating System later than Windows 8, just as you should avoid Macs. sensible advice would be to avoid both Microsoft AND Apple, like the plague. (the real plague, not COVID-1984) If it uses at least 16gb of ram, it will probably work for the foreseeable future online. a quarter of that would be more than sufficient for what most people want to do, especially if used in conjunction with serious software systems, not the mass-market crap designed for retarded five-year-olds. my online workhorse I’ve been using for almost ten years now, zero problems, cost me 200 Euros new. it will probably work even better for you, if you replace Windows with software whose design objective was something other than maximizing Bill Gates’ fortune. (you can run it from a USB flashdrive initially, without touching the hard drive, to see if you like it.) NEVER let Windows… Read more »
computers don’t “wear out”, except possibly the hard-drive ball-bearings.
the usual problem is that the crappy defective-by-design proprietary software systems are fulfilling their design objectives. fortunately, there’s a (free) alternative.
https://linuxmint.com/screenshots.php
You obviously know what you’re talking about! Being not much of a tech-guy myself, I usually resent having to learn new protocols every time I buy a piece of hardware, or install new software… converting my office to Linux is something I considered years ago… at this point, to be honest, I’ll probably never get that ambitious again, but, in case I do, I’m saving this thread!
you can run Linux from a USB flashdrive, to try it out, without installing it on your hard drive and affecting your existing OS, unless and until you decide to.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/burn.html
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html
Thank you Steven Augustine and THX-1143 for your helpful comments. I’ve tried downloading Linux alternatives before but they did not work, or I did not understand them sufficiently to make them work. There never seem to be instructions and when you get to the Command Prompt you don’t know what to do. Is Mint different? Can I still access my documents?
as long as you’re running Linux from a flashdrive, you can access your existing documents on the hard disk.
if you decide to permanently install Linux on the hard drive, you should copy any files you want to save onto another flashdrive or external disk, and then copy them back after the installation.
another option is to only dedicate part of the hard disk to Linux, while leaving the rest of it to your existing Windows system. in that case, you can decide which OS you want to run, each time you boot the computer. files in the Windows partition would be accessible while running Linux, but not the other way around.
if you do decide to set up a dual-OS system, it would still be wise to backup your files to an external drive, before installation, in case something went wrong.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/multiboot.html
I’m trying THX-1143. When it gets to bits like this I’m lost. It does not tell you how without going to a command prompt.
“Integrity checkTo check the integrity of your local ISO file, generate its SHA256 sum and compare it with the sum present in
sha256sum.txt.The disc Image File has been downloaded successfully. Do I just copy this to a memory stick and try to run from it?
I’ve downloaded the missing SHA256 files and still it will not load. My computer is HP. No can’t get it to work.
You really missed the mark. Working from Home: Decimation of jobs, industries, business, production and economies. Loss of social interaction and collegiality or workplace friendships, increased numbers of casual workers with no rights, telework or remote work eventually leads to mass automation, algorithms, redundant jobs, less physical movement freedom, smaller social and work circles, less on the job less training, no interning, less mentoring, less ability to move sideways or up within a corporation. Creates disposable, unseen, unknown employees. Mandatory Masks: Projects a state of fear, impersonalization of self and others, lack of identity or individuality, reduces visual face cues, oxygen deprivation, increased upper respiratory infections, less social interaction, no smiling, inhibits communication, increases animosity and paranoia. Learning to follow arbitrary or harmful rules, imposed detrimental measures. Creates a fake market and increases profits for mask makers, increases trash and unnecessary consumption. An added unneeded expense. Social Distancing: Reduces physical… Read more »
Thanks Researcher – great list. This important point left out re an individual’s private property.
Under the IMF’s “World Debt Re-set Program”, all debts will be forgiven. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever.
More details of their horrendous plans for us included in this website which focuses on Canada, but this is planned for every country in the very near future.
https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/canadian-control-measures-just-the-tip-of-the-earth-sized-iceberg
Here’s another point to add to your list, Researcher:
Transhumanism:
Reducing humans to micro-chipped surveillance and unquestioning obedience. Total dependence on the control system. Merging with machines. Disposable if not profitable for the ‘impact investors’.
Thanks Mary. Good addition. I was replying to an earlier post that vanished. Most strange.
Just a trivial point about social distancing: I happen to watch a TV soap twice a week. I’m not proud of that fact, except that it’s in a language other than my first language, and it’s a language I’m trying to learn (or improve in). Anyway, like most of these things, it must be filmed months in advance, and it seems they’ve only just now caught up with Covid-19 in the storyline. Although they haven’t mentioned the virus, and no one is wearing a mask, for the first time, I’ve noticed all the characters studiously obeying social distancing, and it looks weird. Even more so in the outside scenes, which tend to dominate. e.g. in one of these, an “illicit” couple have met on the beach, well away from where her husband could see them, and they are intensely discussing their future. And they are probably well over 2 metres… Read more »
Lol I saw a bit of one accidentally and noticed it too! Yesterday. How weird.
The Machine knows damn well monkey-see-monkey-do. It is now displaying only visual content on the Slave-O-Vision that conforms to Its Meat-Space edicts.
Social Distancing: prevents even the humblest non-electronically-mediated communication: whispering.
All communication must be mediated by the Machine, logged and analyzed. If any verbal intercourse should unfortunately occur in-person, it must be at such a distance and volume that a nearby microphone can pick it up! For logging and analysis, of course.
Ha! How remiss of me to think I could ever have a private conversation again without Deep Mind, Alexa and Siri eavesdropping.
All types of intercourse are apparently unwanted in Canada, where you must wear a mask during sex and no kissing. They’re banking on a future society of mimetic post-millennials who only know onanism.
Reminds me of an old joke – why don’t Scottish Presbyterians encourage having sex while standing? Because it might lead to dancing! (Ha Ha Ha)
Laughter – feared by the pleasure-hating billionaires club. They are trying to turn fun and laughter into an endangered species.
I know that joke in its opposite form, and applied to a different Protestant sect:
Why don’t Southern Baptists have sex standing up?
Because they’re afraid people will think they’re dancing.
That’s only half the story. Social Distancing also prevents another form of humble non-electronically-mediated communication: passing notes.
By the way, this was in REPLY TO ANOTHER PERSON’S POST which has been removed… I have no idea why.
So my post appears odd! Like a non sequitur.
Kevin’s presentation was excellent.
Masks also provide new opportunities for crime, e.g snatch theft.
We could always start with the basics. Take off the masks. It is the easiest way to send the message that we know you are lying. In my job i have only encountered 2 people out of several hundred,in last 3 months, that believe the narrative. And i don’t mean have researched like you have. They instinctively know it’s a load of shite. I would bet on scotland,with its population of 6 million,having 4.5 million of that disbelieving the script. Thats more than enough for critical mass to just ignore sturgeon and return to our own normal. Just disobey then ignore the tool. They send in the army and pull a trigger,politicians will bleed too. I can’t see any other recourse.
Yeah. Masks off. I don’t wear a mask.
US financial expert, Jim Sinclair, has been predicting a worldwide financial crash and economic reset for a number of years. Last year, he and his business partner, Bill Holter, claimed that the crash was imminent, and that a false flag would be used as an excuse for this crash and the subsequent economic reset. Like most mainstream public figures, Jim and Bill have always been reluctant to discuss 9/11 for fear of being labelled ‘the new David Icke’, or similar. Similarly, they are also cicumspect about the nature of covid19 in public interviews. They believe that they can get their message across by using irrefutable financial data.
This is a short recording I took from the weekly discussion on the premium section of Jsmineset.com, where Jim discusses the link between 9/11 and covid19. He also alludes to the occult leanings of the people behind both scams.
https://we.tl/t-vVLovCeXv3
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-W/vsak-wrfu
“Covid-19 deaths” median age is higher than median age of people who died of all causes. What other disease can increase life expectancy?
9-11 aka The War on Terra aka the War on The Constitution, Civil Liberties and the permanent suspension of Habeas Corpus.
Covid19 aka The Great Reset aka Agenda 21 aka the Abolition of the Magna Carta and Habeas Corpus, globally.
911 Air combat command exercises – Crown/corona Guardian & as mentioned by Mr Ryan, Apollo Guardian – as Apollo 11 – that earlier densely destructive step to reduce the ability to analyse and asses, and ingrain the spaced out Luna’tic reality of the fantasista.
I made a similar comparison in my now disappeared post (#125) to a blog entry of a well-known bloggeuriste attempting to blind with science.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201014204834/https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/10/professor-chossudovsky-is-wrong-here-is-how-pcr-tests-work/comments/page/2/#comments
This bloggeuriste appears to be totally oblivious to contingency table analysis that underlies all epidemiological analysis, as explained in a clear fashion by a guest epidemiologist on Dr Kendrick’s blog.
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/28/false-positive-tests/
Summary – even a test with (an unheard of) 99% specificity gives 5 times as many false positives as true positives at the current observed disease prevalence.
It is amusing to see his accolytes referring to qualified epidemilogists and medics as newbies.
At 45 cycles they’ll all be positive.
A rigged test to defraud the public.
From michel chossudovsky – globalresearch.ca
“the issue about false positives is a red herring because even a true positive doesn’t mean you have (c19) – it could be any virus – like the common cold – and also it doesn’t mean you are infected or are infectious.”
True. It’s all actually a red herring since there is no virus circulating.
First, prove the existence of a new virus. Second, prove that this virus is the cause of a new disease. If the threat is nonexistent, the response is not disproportionate, it’s unnecessary.
The essence of it all is fear. Sadly, the majority will choose tyranny over freedom if the fear level is high enough. When the fear level is reduced to low levels, the majority is more likely to opt for rights and freedom. The ruling class is of course well aware of this reality, which is why fear is pushed 24/7. A fearful population will accept mass vaccination, health passports, surveillance apps, and other authoritarian/totalitarian measures. Without fear they are likely to reject these measures, at least through non-compliance. Therefore the focus should be on finding a way to combat the fear mongering. Ideally it would be accomplished by debunking the official Covid plague narrative. However, given most of the public’s unwilligness to ask even the most obvious questions about the narrative, this approach may not work. Perhaps a good slogan to disseminate would be “Freedom Not Fear” or “Hope Not… Read more »
Let’s go the whole hog, Kevin.
The slogan and cry is..
‘Get Covid done by Xmas!’, to paraphrase an otiose, rictus puppet.
On that day, around Xmas coming, on the awaited signal, all of the people in all of the land gather in their local village greens, town squares, city precincts and metro boros. No permission required nor sought. We, the people will gather in tremendous numbers and declare our freedom. Sing a few carols and the like. When we’re good and ready..
After a good day’s freedom winning…it’s down the…what??.. Lockdown? ‘Lock in’ more like.
Just those numbers needed!
That would make make for a great Christmas movie.
Cheap to produce, also. Just a few million volunteer extras, plus lanterns and music! Coffee and sannies..then Take it away..Action!!
Truth not Fear
Yes, very good.
Re: “the incessant fear-based media coverage.”
Ryan (@11:40): “It was around the first week of March when a switch was flipped . . .”
Is this something which could be compiled by the readers at OffG? For instance, I was recently looking at Zero Hedge who were relentlessly pushing fear-porn around early March. See:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/08/who-accidentally-confirms-covid-is-no-more-dangerous-than-flu/#comment-255696
When did sites like MoA flip the switch?
25 Jan 2020 The Coronavirus – no need to panic
1 Feb 2020 Novel Coronavirus defies conspiracy theories as data shows its coming decline
8 Feb 2020 The epidemic recedes – number of new coronavirus cases in decline
13 Feb 2020 Coronavirus – statistical change causes confusion while the new case count continues to decline
6 Mar 2020 Coronavirus – bad preparation and propaganda increase the onsetting panic
9 Mar 2020 Is the coronavirus really more dangerous than the flu?
11 Mar 2020 Coronavirus – the hidden cases – why we must shut everything down and do it now
So MoA flipped 180 degrees between his posts on 9 and 11 March 2020, also taking on the imperious ‘We’.
I guess the 11 March post may give a clue – maybe he panicked because he is a self-admitted heavy smoker?
Bad form to reply to own posting – but the WHO officially declared a pandemic on 10-11 March. MoA flipped instantly taking up the vaccine promoters’ fear-driven agenda.
I haven’t checked it, but my memory of Zero Hedge is that the fear-porn was ramped up over a couple weeks rather than there being a dramatic switch.
ZH is largely a reposting site aimed at getting clicks so it is more variable. 2 Mar “Pandemic proportions”: COVID-19 is starting to spiral out of control all over the globe 4 Mar Six reasons why Covid-19 fails the sniff test 6 Mar Will the Coronavirus topple China’s one-party regime? 8 Mar “This is the most frightening disease I’ve ever encountered in my career” says architect of National Pandemic Strategy 10 Mar “Mission Accomplished”?: President Xi declares victory over Coronavirus in visit to Wuhan 11 Mar UK Health Minister tests positive for COVID-19 13 Mar Canada’s First Lady tests positive for the Coronavirus It was a big pusher of ‘Wuhan Flu’ with China as a source of a biological weapon. Ironically, the virus highly likely wasn’t created specifically as a weapon, but the politicos have exploited its appearance as a weapon initially to bash China, and now the rest of… Read more »
There’s usually a lot of randomness in the selection of articles by ZH. However, as I note at the above link, around early March there was a consistent and strong bias toward covid fear-porn. It was almost wall-to-wall covid and got the point where I stopped checking the site.
WRT the possibility of covid being lab-created, people have a default tendency to assume that the virus would therefore be exceptionally deadly. However, I would assume that they create far more duds than killers, and covid appears to be in the former category.
Moon of Alabama sold out very early. MoA’s B swallowed the official narrative hook line and sinker so quickly that the site seems to be just another planned part of the Covid-19 package. B’s apparent common sense and good judgement disappeared instantly once the Covid-19 panic button was pressed. I would guess MoA was always a controlled site and was set up to suck in those with alternative views, gain their trust and then beat them over the head with the official Covid nonsense when the time came. Why anyone with half a brain would still go there is now well beyond me.
And this is kind of a bummer. Lot’s of insight in most of his other research.
But not once has he questioned the official narrative, not the possible underlying causes NOTHING.
The 21st century opened with the premeditated false flag event of 9/11. Later in 2008 there was the massive bank bailouts.Then there was the plandemic. In between the 1st event and the current one their were other scattered coronavirus mini false flags. Agenda 2030 is their timeline for the completion of their control grid….and beyond. Unless they can be stopped.
So yeah, there is a linear link between 9/11 and this plandemic.
Just like the 20th century, which early on had the U.S. federal reserve enacted. Soviet Bolshevism and ww1. The arseholes who run the world have everything mapped out for each century ahead.
And add to those crises born of scams, and the opening of the 21st Century, the 2000 California Electricity Crisis. I’ve posted about this on several other threads, and will add it to this one, because it serves as a template for large scale collusion among “players” of the power elites. Some cursory study of it will show just how many fingerprints of that crime (at a totally criminal price tag of $45 billion) have SO many “points of similarity” –forensically– to the crimes you mention, and those entitled in this article. For just one most telling, note the “factor of 20 times, so like Neil Ferguson inflating CFR projections regularly –chronically– by 20x for his various pre-fab plandemics, as well as that “20x” number cropping up in other Covid stats: From Wikipedia article: “Traders were thus able to sell power at premium prices, sometimes up to a factor of… Read more »
Nice timeline. Excellent. Enron price rigging, tax evasion, complicated offshore accounting entities and shell companies, stock manipulation and money laundering for the drug trade. The Enron ties actually go all the way to The City of London Corp. as does 9-11. The investigations in the WTC, FBI offices and Pentagon Naval office where records were conveniently destroyed. There was a gold and silver market rigging investigation, around the time of 9-11, also. Fast forward to today, the news is nothing but Covid19, and the financial malfeasance of global money laundering has slipped under the radar as a fingerprint-less non-event. The detrimental FinCEN SARs reports only point to a few stray players, not the cryptocracy who use major retail banks to launder drug money, organized crime money, human trafficking and other illegal activity. Not to mention the billions of fake stocks, bonds and financial products that are currently in circulation, courtesy… Read more »
When you see these same patterns repeating over and over, you no longer need to lift actual fingerprints, the incessant repititions of the same modus operandi is enough to make the case. These facts all point to a cadre of big supervillains. Daylight-time vampires out and about, scarier and more dangerous than the undead nocturnal ones. What to do? Brighter light of research is part of the cure perhaps. Even the daytime kind shun the light, and the radar. Ironically, a neighbor’s son was the DOJ federal prosecutor who got a Houston jury to convict Ken Lay on all counts. He went to high school across the street from our church. So at least those crimes and the perps came to light and were exposed. But it was really just a negligible speed bump for that crowd, so far. (Houston was the city where the 3 supervillains in the 2nd… Read more »
Indeed. But then again, they always get rid of a few sacrificial lambs. The ones further down in the chain of command. It might be too late to shine a light on these cockroaches, since they have control of every NGO on earth because they created them all, anyway. In Canada this is happening: https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/canadian-control-measures-just-the-tip-of-the-earth-sized-iceberg Further confirmed by this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/dAFXX7jg9g3Y/ which means that nobody except the Cryptocracy will be allowed any private property or assets next year after the global markets crash and the dollar collapses. All carefully orchestrated and planned, of course. And I know they can instigate the ICE9 freeze of bank accounts, money market accounts etc., due to this: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica2/sociopol_globalbanking628.htm Confirmed the new system will consist of the IMF special drawing rights: https://ukuncensored.com/the-ice-nine-lockdown/ So it appears the cryptocracy through the IMF will take control of the world, end retail banking and offer a UBI but only if… Read more »
Shit Almighty! Takes my breath away (and I’m not even wearing a mask).
This IMF takeover looks like the real deal:
https://www.mintpressnews.com/imf-seizes-on-covid-crisis-to-pave-way-for-privatization-in-81-countries/271917/
The banks control EVERYTHING.
It is sounding like the enclosures all over again.
Looks like the IMF and World Bank are behind the covid Op. “Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko said last month via Belarusian Telegraph Agency, BelTA., that World Bank and IMF offered him a bribe of $940 million USD in the form of “Covid Relief Aid.” In exchange for $940 million USD, the World Bank and IMF demanded that the President of Belarus: • imposed “extreme lockdown on his people” • force them to wear face masks • impose very strict curfews • impose a police state • crash the economy” Continues.., “Now IMF and World Bank are bailing out failing airlines with billions of dollars, and in exchange, they are FORCING airline CEOs to implement VERY STRICT POLICIES such as FORCED face masks covers on EVERYONE, including SMALL CHILDREN, whose health will suffer as a result of these policies. And if it is true for Belarus, then it is true for… Read more »
Related: the great earthquake in Japan (2011-03) saved USA from a crunch in nuclear fuel. Japan shut down all its nuclear plants for a while. This is according to Gordon Duff at veteranstoday.com.
A necessary element of government ‘deregulation’ is to allow unregulated input costs but to regulate the prices the utility can charge, for political reasons.
The result is inevitable; the only variable being how long it takes.
s cooper – who cares – I imagine the families of service men women killed in the wars they prolonged, the service people who served, or still there, the thousands of families in Iraq bereaved. All of us who have some empathy to think the war was not necessary, was prolonged and may be all that time US and also got to be, UK, was aware OBL was in Iran.
Does not bother one that lives are lost/stolen, time and resources are wasted on a BIG LIE. It should. Now another BIG LIE with the SCAMDEMIC and the face diapers. How long is humanity going to take this.
The WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOPATHS need to go NOW!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xp7whYQ1BAg/ViFaZuyLquI/AAAAAAAACK8/lv9lMHy4IhQ/s1600/bm5620528a.jpg
Excellent presentation. You don’t need fancy graphics to make a point. In fact, Ryan’s stripped-down approach is part of what makes his argument so powerful. Thank you for making it available here.
Masks may give you covid.
New CDC Study 70% Always 3% Never Wore Face Masks Contracted Covid
https://ise.media/video/new-cdc-study-70-always-3-never-wore-face-masks-contracted-covid-43.html
One of the early symptoms of SARS-COV-19 infection is oxygen deprivation arising from inflammatory obstruction of the oxygen transport mechanism at the lung tissue surface.
One well known side effect of mask-wearing is oxygen deprivation.
This ties in perfectly with the medical approach in the medieval and later-pre modern medical science eras when ‘like was used to treat like’ – a treatment causing symptom X was used to treat a disease causing symptom X.
The only game in town today is American hegemony, which is backed up by a vast military industrial complex, an omni-present surveillance machine and multiply layers of administration. It is absurd that I need to define it, but I will, because you people are in denial and talk endlessly about these phantom threats to our society. US Empire has a vast propaganda capacity, via its ‘think-tanks’ & universities pumping out political, economic, social & ‘scientific research’ and studies which it uses to influence the worlds direction of travel, in their own economic and strategic interests. That is in addition to spreading their interests via diplomacy, US/UK financial media, the press, NGO’s, 5 eyes, phoney campaign & pressure groups, lobbying groups and individual CIA agents on the ground monitoring all business, military, social and political activity in its vassal states and rising competitor ‘enemy’ nations, as well as funding and having… Read more »
There is no ‘globalist agenda’.
Yes, you are so right!
And people like Klaus Schwab don’t exist, nether does Agenda 21…
You are particularly right tho about people being dumbed down…
You can take a horse to water, but can’t ………
Not a gripping presentation to be fair. But I get the points made. I suggest, now that we are where we are, when reflecting on so many blatant psyops we should rank them in order of impact and ability to remain front and centre.Then to see if they are so formulaic that you can smell the individual ingredients as they waft past us. It’s my belief that the long game has to be to hold the world’s population in grip that wasn’t too tight that it might cause anarchy, but not so loose that we had a little too much say in our lives and got above ourselves. The grip would tighten at specific junctures.And they would be dependant on our performance which has always been under the watchful glare of an all seeing eye The JFK slaughter will always be the ‘Daddy’ of them. It inserted the very term ‘conspiracy theory’… Read more »
Excellent post. Bang on.
Thanks Kevin 👍
As I often quip: can you imagine how different daily life would have been if the “Turriss” had been real? Shit would have been popping off every day, and not just in photogenic metropolises: in small towns. Random attacks in bakeries, Starbucks (Starbucks clearly put the word out to Blackwater, et al: do not fuck with our brand), gyms, public toilets… day after day. That’s the first clue that it was all a load of bullshit: even local street gangs were better at daily-life-disrupting terror than these supposed cadres of “sleeper-cells” and “elite paramilitary suicide squads”. Maybe they should have tried a new Al Qaeda-n-Crips combo, instead, to terrorize Kansas…?
lol ”Turiss”. Brought back great memories of the mighty leader and even mightier orator George Dubya Bush. How many times did he stand proud and tell the world he was so proud to be a merkin. He certainly had the brains of one.;)
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” —Famous Verbatim Dubya Quote
class 🤣
And still, we’re all here repeating ad nauseam the stats and lies of c-1984 but what do we do now? The internet has lulled us into a complacency of rebellion where we yak away and no one fires up an active solution. The French Revolution would never have happened if the internet had been around. People invoke Gandhi’s peaceful protest without considering that he was “permitted” to lead the masses to freedom because it suited TPTB. Corbett et al are now catering to the “newbs” while those of us who have been awake for 20+ yrs are hanging out, wondering what to do.
2 members of 77th Brigade with us tonight.
Zelikow was the “Executive Director” drafting the 9/11 Report behind the scenes.
The actual commissioners were numbnuts Nos. 1 & 2, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton (who later laughingly disavowed the whole thing!).
Just a quibble! Great post!
Quite true Fact Checker..now you mention it.👍 I believe he was offered the lead but lacked the bottle. Probably didn’t want to remind those with a sharper eye. He’s what Covid 19 would look like if it wore a suit.
I agree with Kevin an excellent ‘sum it up in a nut shell’ you know you should write your own words as a topic for others to discuss
“The Parallels Between 9/11 and Covid19”
Primary parallel: neither would have been possible without lots of dumbed-down consumer-zombies, with blown-out critical faculties, in the audience. Until Duh Masses improve in that regard, this shit will never cease happening. We aren’t merely threatened by an Evil, disembodied “head” of cooperating plutocrat-psychopaths… the “head” is riding around on a giant’s body. The body consists of our buddies, our brothers, our moms, our colleagues and tens of millions like them. How to save them (and thereby save ourselves)? That’s the question. The Evil “head” is irredeemable but also of NO CONCERN if estranged from the services of that giant, clueless body.
Strange how Fauci resembles Larry Silverstein
He’s Joseph Goebbels. A twisted little creature full of quiet anger.
A man with nihilism coursing through every vein and the intellect and single-mindedness to run the US Ministry Of Propaganda and shape all narratives for the politicians to deliver. His goal is power, money and genocide.The Nazi ideology is alive and well and dwelling within the walls of the CIA nest.
Nailed.
As it stands:
Western governments have been replaced by Mafia systems with heavy reliance on propaganda-followed-by-bombs tactics; rules of engagement abandoned. These mafia-governments are driven by white supremacy arrogance. They are heavily armed with modern and nuclear weapons and have effectively, on the ground, encircled Russia and China.
Covid-19 vsersion1 (v2 and probably v3 and 4, à la Microsoft) is an effective way to shut down protests* for any despicable acts that are happening and are about to be committed by the mafia-governments.
Any conspiracies and comments that evil ‘neo-cons’ or US intelligence caused the 9/11 attack are always welcome here. Anyone mentioning religious hate as the key factor gets deleted. Long live free speech, critical thinking, and a united resistance.
I_left_the_left the troll.
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I’m calling you out on this. You have 986 published comments, to date, and you are not being censored for your views. When I look in our spam and trash I find no comments of yours, except two duplicate posts complaining about censorship. Here is the original you were referring to.
Desist. Thanks. A2
notice that is just one icon and you use you use at least 2/3 icons on this site
what a sick fuck you must be to continually lie about being censored
986? Golly, did you count every one?
admin must have a software that does
Bit of a snide atmosphere down here recently XD A2
There was no “attack” – at least not from an outside source.
How did ‘religious hate’ wire three buildings with enough nanothermite to pulverize the concrete to dust, destroy everything inside them and melt holes in two foot thick steel beams?
How come you’re not droning on about your silly posts being taken down all the time?
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the followers of zvi and jacob frank
satanic culling systems since babylon
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Christian and Islamic scripture, including the New Testament of the Bible, should start carrying warnings for passages deemed “anti-semitic,” a coalition of Jewish groups has asked.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/require-bible-publishers-to-add-anti-semitic-warnings-to-new-testament-jewish-groups-say.html
Wondering why the Covid measures make no sense? Like stopping students from seeing each other? When they never get ill with this flu? The students are not the targets, the entire entertainment sector is. The students are just cannon fodder. Understand the measures in economic terms and which industries they are targeting and want control over. Police enforced Masks wearing, Is forcing people to shop on-line at Amazon. Social distancing: will reduce profitability of Cinemas, Theatres, and Restaurants, making them ripe for bankruptcy and take over by chains. Tim Martin is toast. ‘Cashless society’: To help MasterCard and Visa grow. Home working: Those who work from home can all eventually be outsourced overseas. It also gives US tech control/access over ALL business communications. The CIA spend a lot of time following mergers and accusation, now they can do it from Langley. Curfew: reduce profitability of pubs bares and entertainment sector.… Read more »
Sam, I think most rebellions have started among uni students. They have now been castrated with debt (hence need to take extra jobs while studying) and now social distancing. No time for rebellion-starting.
A goo list of abuses, but don’t forget the most important point – depopulation.
…i think that there’s an alarming similarity between these two strands of the same thread that has been overlooked here….that of the lack of evidence to support the fanatical claims. Just as there is no evidence of a “deadly virus”, there is no evidence of the presence of the stated “aircraft” at the stated locations and no evidence that the towers “collapsed”…a collapse suggests a downward motion….most of the bulk within the two towers did not hit the ground….just an observation….!!!
Towers “collapsed”!…first fuckers went sky high.
The debris did hit the ground – but in a very wide footprint consistent with massive explosions
all go to look at Anna Khait twitter, Nick Noe on scieneismymuse twitter and website to see what you make of the breaking news on social media (and busily being taken off FB/twwitter) about whistleblower Allen Parrot speaking to Nick Noe and a father of Seal 6 killed in helicopter crash after OBL’s raid. Reveals OBL was kept in Iran with USA blssing until Hill ary transferred him to Pakistan for a trophy kill but Iran brought him back to Iran at last moment, so they killed someone else and Seal 6 had to to be got rid of. The $$$$ Obama paid to Iran not for a Nuclear deal but blackmailed by Iran and hush money. May be why they really wanted HC to be president . What do our M16 Christ Steele know and is this another reason for the hoax dossier to help HC and keep T… Read more »
Doubtful. Also who cares.
Why doubt? The independent media are presenting tons of evidence, while the MSM ignore it all. For many of us, that’s reason enough to take these allegations seriously. You don’t trust the MSM on wu-flu, I imagine.
Seal team 6 are New Rome’s gladiators, so they create mystery and mythology around them. It is legend creation.
bread and circuses
But…but…but burials at sea are traditional for desert Arabs.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-big-lie-obama-did-not-kill-bin-laden/5448927
Many other articles on Global Research concerning this. Just type in “Osama” and “Death”
Curiously absent in all of this, is the legal aspect (illegality) of invading and occupying (approaching 20 years now) a sovereign country/nation to capture one man (a CIA asset). Rather flimsy legal rational would not one say?
“WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOPATHS do not have to adhere to laws and treaties, only untermenschen and useless eaters are expected to do so.”
OBL died of liver failure in 2002 at the american military hospital in dubai. christ knows who they killed in pak but that story about iran is bollocks
what next a twitter post of bin laden daughter wearing a maga t shirt
There were newspaper obituaries, one in in an Egyptian newspaper in the second link following and in January 2002 the President of Pakistan referred to his death in comment made publicly.
Also, lots of references/links here:
https://newspunch.com/evidence-shows-osama-bin-laden-actually-died-in-2001/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-ladens-obituary-notice/5358889
Who knows? But there are a lot of unassociated/separate references in the above link, and the official story doesn’t inspire much confidence The photo op of a rapt audience of notables in the War Room watching the killing in real time was later acknowledged to be staged because the ‘live link was down’. Historically, the body of the hated opponent is displayed, trophy style, to remove any doubt, and autopsied, not secretly whisked away to be immediately disposed of, actions that only create doubt.
He died of kidney failure after needing dialysis. That was a popular idea back in the day. I suppose it adds up if you consider they don’t have the machines in caves. Then again Benazir Bhutto announced that he has been assassinated and even named the assassin live on a Sunday morning chat with Sir David Frost.Shortly after, she returned home and was shot dead in public.
Couple of points Julie. There’s social media and there’s breaking news. I’d advise you not to conflate the two so eagerly without close inspection. Mainly because social media’s larger slice of population are looking for attention and 15 minutes fame.And likes and thumbs ups of course. You mention a whistelblower and a father of a Seal 6 member. The father is sure to be angry. I haven’t listened or read any of this.I read the alleged account of the raid that secured Bin laden and found it hilarious.And the fate of those aboard was no shock.Any father of any member of that team would have unresolved grief and anger directed at the corrupt nature of those who had brought about the death of their child.As such, a balanced argument is highly unlikely as it would be heavily biased and thinly reasoned and evidence or proof almost a certainty to be… Read more »
Veteranstoday had their own analysis. As I recall, the distances from the Afghan border to to Abbotabad and from there to the sea were too great for helicopters, especially with such loads. Moreover, Pak air defence was one of the best even then.
Good job, Kevin, except, of course, you’re controlled opposition so there’s a very important parallel you’ve missed. Two major propaganda streams PROPAGANDA 1 – MAINSTREAM COVID-19: Global pandemic and massive response required 9/11: Terrorists crashing planes into buildings which subsequently collapsed, resulting in the deaths of 3,000 people and injury to 6,000 PROPAGANDA 2 (controlled opposition) – DIRECTED TO SKEPTICS COVID-19: Virus but not pandemic and response inappropriate. Of course, some people will naturally think there’s a virus but not at pandemic levels and that the response is inappropriate, however, controlled opposition is still pushed out to propagate and curate that message. Often, controlled opposition pushes out simply what some people will think anyway but they like to have control over the message so that they can ensure as much as possible that thought doesn’t drift over to the actual truth. The actual truth needs to be suppressed as much… Read more »
Just a small point here: he might have had bacterial pneumonia, and antibiotics are the normal conventional treatment for bacterial infections.
As Andrew Saul (DoctorYourself dot com ) says in his videos, it’s not Covid-19 that kills people, it’s the pneumonia that can sometimes develop.
They didn’t say pneumonia though did they? They said he made a miracle recovery from COVID-19 after a course of antibiotics … and Mike, that’s just ONE of the instances, right? Just one. I gave three instances of miracle survivors plus I gave an instance of an unconvincing patient. It’s always possible to give an alternative explanation for one instance of something but when you give three then it gets trickier plus there’s other supporting information. Also to note are: — It says he tested positive for COVID-19 but he contracted coronavirus. — His son says “We were very surprised to hear that he was being discharged. He’d had no respiratory problems.” He’d had no respiratory problems? What does he mean? “It was unbelievable that he had made such a miraculous recovery. It’s been a rollercoaster for the family which has left us all baffled, bemused, drained, elated and deflated… Read more »
Mike, spot on! Reminds me of schoolboy joke:
Doctor, what do you advise to cure my flu?
Jump into a pond then sit in wet clothes in a draft.
Will that cure my flu?
No but it will give you pneumonia, and I can cure that with antibiotics.
Kevin Ryan worked for UL (Underwriters Laboratories) at the time of 9/11. He was an engineer involved with certifying the steel beams used in the construction of WTC 1&2. He almost immediately came out publicly and yelled bullshit. No way would these soot furniture fires cause the total destruction of these two buildings. He was immediately fired from his engineering position at UL for these statements. I know this because I made a donation to support him in this whistleblowing. Anything can happen in 20 years, but Ryan was not controlled opposition then, and I would need a lot better evidence to convince me that he is now. He has shown a lot courage and integrity. This doesn’t mean that Ryan has a total handle on just how deep into the demonic swamp these two FF go, but people who do are called “nutters.”
Alleged whistleblowers who get fired from their jobs are very often controlled opposition agents. I see the word whistleblower and I think agent – of course, there are genuine whistleblowers but I don’t think I know one connected with 9/11.
This person thinks he’s controlled opposition too and as do I think a number of other people.
http://truthandshadows.com/2013/08/03/the-kevin-ryan-paradox-the-way-to-show-the-911-official-story-is-false-is-by-accepting-as-much-of-it-as-possible/
Anyone who says that death and injury were real on 9/11 is controlled opposition – either they’re paid controlled opposition or their minds have been controlled by the controlled opposition to believe in real death and injury – I mean, that’s what the purpose of controlled opposition is, right?
Not to be a smart alek, but you do realize don’t you that there are those who would consider you to be controlled opposition in that you are, actually, throwing far greater doubt on the controlled demolition theory of 911 than the official narrative does.
Yes, and many say that David Icke is controlled opposition since the CIA and Mossad haven’t murdered him yet. But none can build a case by the things he says or writes. Let me state my position about how the WTC may have been destroyed. I see three possibilities; traditional controlled demolition but using nanothermite in addition to conventional explosives, micronuke triggers, and a directed energy weapon. Occam’s razor says that the simplest answer is probably the right one if it explains all the evidence. In my opinion with a background in chemistry and physics, none of these three options alone can explain all the evidence, thus the truth is that it was a combination of at least two of them. Let me comment for a moment on Judy Wood. I am not a psychologist, but I strongly suspect that she has Asperger’s Syndrome. She has a lot of trouble… Read more »
“Yes, and many say that David Icke is controlled opposition since the CIA and Mossad haven’t murdered him yet.”
It did cross my mind that he could be being used to discredit the anti-lockdown movement as he has such a bad reputation with parochial little Englander types.
When Icke had his “awakening” experience in 1990 near Lake Titicaca in Peru, and then went “on the road,” he was lucky to fill a small living room. A few years ago, when he was doing his all day presentations, he was filling Wembley Arena. But I think by far his greatest influence has been by two or three degrees of separation. The people who are turned off by his ideas have not been converted from inquiring, critical free thinkers to Karens, snarling at people who don’t social distance or wear masks. Icke booked a sold out tour in Australia just months before the scamdemic was launched. Two hours before he was to board the plane in LA, he was notified by the über fascist Australian government that his visa had been revoked, and he had to cancel his venues at great expense From that idea that “crossed your mind,”… Read more »
Beautifully balanced impressions.
On Icke and Wood both.
Thank you, El G.
I’m not at all big on the “controlled opposition” meme. Besides being overused, it implies the CIA et al are this huge monolithic force controlling everything that happens in the world. I seriously doubt that; they are primarily a bunch of flunkies with delusions of grandeur. Typical Wizard of Oz kind of situation.
I don’t necessarily want to converse with you, and since I didn’t actually buy and read Wood’s book I expect you’ll ignore this– hmm, knowing the fate of being ignored in advance at least ought to impose some brevity for a change. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your perspective, probably because it’s very similar to mine. I also wanted to mention that if I never see the phrase “controlled opposition” again it will be too soon. I know what it’s supposed to mean, and I’ve even used (or at least thought) it myself over the years. But it’s turned into a caricature; to mix a couple of metaphors, it’s like a combination of the classic witch trial by water combined with the “baby in the bathwater” metaphor. That is, I see a lot of “babies” peremptorily drowned in the “controlled opposition” bathwater; once immersed, apparently all of their views… Read more »
Yes, “controlled opposition” is being very abused. Much of this is intentional by our Overlords. They don’t want their tricks to enter commonplace understanding anymore than a magician wants his audience to know how he saws his beautiful assistant in half. So the easiest way to discredit the idea is to abuse it by calling everyone you disagree with controlled opposition. The problem is that there are two types. One type are simply people of good intent who are just clueless as to what is going down on this planet. Actually my wife fits into this category. As you might realize, I am a pretty articulate guy with a lot of facts and figures at my disposal. Yet it is impossible to convince her. She is gaslighted and will remain so unless Off-G does a hostile takeover of CNN and what Gerald Celente refers to as the toilet paper of… Read more »
A conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory?
Cool.
I don’t quite understand, Howard. I agree with controlled demolition, of course. I just say that just as they evacuated WTC-7 they also evacuated WTCs 1 and 2. The planes were faked so no deaths there. It’s very straightforward. The avoidance of death is super easy, right? The only difficulty is making up the people who died or sheepdipping them (giving them a new ID and shipping them off somewhere) but they’ve done it all before and they’ve done it quite a number of times since. They know how to do these things. What I really find strange is that there is so much opposition to my claim when it seems perfectly reasonable to me. Sure I believed in real death and injury for four years but then I woke up and I think the case I make for it is completely solid and common sense. They acknowledge many drills… Read more »
Keeping it to a minimum at least, are you saying there were no jumpers from the twin towers?
That would be necessary for my hypothesis yes. They faked them. If you have any evidence they weren’t faked please let me know what it is.
One needs to look at the evidence from various angles to really get a sense of the staged death and injury and that’s what I do on my webpage.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html
We might also consider that there were many recognised exercises (including an anti-hijacker exercise) and drills on 9/11 so is it so farfetched to extrapolate all these drills into one big exercise and see that 9/11 was, in reality, a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as real?
So you’re saying that the images presented of people jumping from the towers were faked, and if there were no people, why did the fire fighters attempt to climb the stairs in order to rescue people?
I’m not saying there were no people. There may well have been people in the buildings although I’d make a pretty good guess that all the people in the buildings were below the floors where the alleged planes crashed into them. So I’d guess firefighters rescued those below those floors but really I’m just guessing – would they have been able to get people out in time? I don’t know how they pulled it off exactly. What I do know is that there is no clear evidence of death and injury while there is clear evidence of fakery. Anomalous distribution of deaths among firefighter ladders and ranks, issues with memorials and a number of other anomalies Let’s Roll Forums – The 9/11 Firemen’s Reference Guide Evidence of one Cantor Fitzgerald employee put forward as three and explanation for how they managed the fakery of the alleged deaths of 658 Cantor Fitzgerald… Read more »
“I’m not saying there were no people. There may well have been people in the buildings although I’d make a pretty good guess that all the people in the buildings were below the floors where the alleged planes crashed into them.”
That can only be guess work on your part. There were definitely people on those floors above the missile impact and they jumped because they were being microwaved – cooked from the inside out. That is WHY they jumped.
The logical behaviour would have been to stay inside and hope for the best, but these poor wretches were left with only one option – the less painful option.
Let’s do a deal, messenger charles.
You read my case for 9/11 being a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise comprising the numerous smaller exercises and drills we were informed of in addition to drills we weren’t informed of and I’ll watch your video. You can just read the page on death and injury because that is really all it takes to switch the event from “false flag” to “exercise”.
Let me know when you’ve looked at my case and I’ll watch your video.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html
No deals, I have nothing to prove.
Images of jumpers that you also denied existence of:
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https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=9%2f11+Jumpers&id=951EC0F6C569887679F3D9618734BBA98764F768&form=EQNAMI&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover
… I have nothing to prove. … except an open mind. I certainly don’t deny the existence of the images, messenger charles, please do not strawman me. I recognise the images of the jumpers and I feature one on my webpage, 9/11 and COVID-19: The Parallels – yes I have my own page on the parallels that doesn’t have quite a number of things that Kevin points out but also a couple he doesn’t. Let’s see where we can have agreement: 1. For an hypothesis to be correct all the evidence must favour it over any other. 2. Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. I’d say the 9/11 jumpers look no better than what we might expect from a Hollywood movie and you know what they say about 9/11, don’t you? It was a movie. So seeming jumpers alone are not… Read more »
You’re an ego driven obsessive lunatic. Conversation over.
Even if all three terms you apply to me are true, Charles, and I certainly wouldn’t argue against all of them why does that mean the conversation is over? You want to be a messenger of truth, right? You want to be scrupulous in ensuring that what you believe is correct so when someone challenges your belief no matter their personality don’t you think you should do due diligence and give what they say consideration? An important point to consider: Until mid-2018 I believed in real death and injury: for 13 years due to the alleged terrorists and for four more years due to the US government. The last year of those four years the real-death-and-injury egg was cracking but I’d say it took a full year if not longer from my acquaintance with the first suggestion of fakery to really switch my belief from real to fake. In retrospect,… Read more »
” of course, there are genuine whistleblowers but I don’t think I know one connected with 9/11.”
Then allow me to recommend one. Susan Lindauer. She was aware months before the ‘shock attack’ that America were just waiting to arrange the date, negotiate the pretext for a war, and then divide the spoils.
3,000 innocent pawns were burned off the chessboard that day.
https://steemit.com/politics/@ura-soul/the-whistleblowers-series-3-exposing-911-as-an-inside-job-susan-lindauer-cia-asset-imprisoned-and-drugged-by-us-gov-mil-to
If you accept that 9/11 was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event then genuine whistleblower doesn’t fit in the picture unless they’re calling out staged death and injury … and certainly no alleged whistleblower is doing that, Jura.
I’ve made my case for Exercise on my website so, as far as I’m concerned, there simply cannot be genuine whistleblowers.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/11.html
I never said i accepted that. I believe the event served many people in more than one way. It provided a pretext for war. A war which would make the criminal cartel of liars even richer than they already were. It provided a reason to set a new rule book up in the shape of The Patriot Act. A tome whose very title makes the average American feel guilty if questioning it’s reasoning. It provided the bankers a lot of money by funding ( yet another) war at interest. It provided a valid reason to begin the first stages of the final act of a global dictatorship. It was the death knell for democracy, or the imitation democracy that fooled us all. October 15, 1998: Future 9/11 Commission Executive Director Zelikow Says ‘Public Assumptions’ Shape Views of History. That was a full three years before 9 /11. In a previous… Read more »
“If you accept that 9/11 was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event…”
Nobody does ‘cept you, Liveranoinions.
Gallinazo, thanks very much for reminding me who Kevin Ryan is. Petra is just being her usual tiresome self.
I just figured that Petra is controlled opposition by her own understanding since she is blowing the whistle on Kevin Ryan.
hi Petra – look, you are welcome to come here and repeat-post your poorly-sourced certitudes We have decided to find it charming and won’t bow to pressure to have you characterized as a troll. But please let’s have a minimum of decorum here. By all means put forward your hypothesis about faked death if you want. Maybe you even have a point. Maybe the numbers of dead were inflated to conceal the fact so many tenants had been forewarned and vacated for the day. So what? Ultimately what diff? The fact is P that whether 3,000 or 300 died in the towers that day is less important to most people than the lie about HOW and WHY the towers came down, and the numbers of dead accrued since then due to dust inhalation on the day and in the bloody wars that 9/11 has been used to justify. Your idea… Read more »
Laugh
Absolutely
Going round in circles talking dropping poorly substantiated theories is a waste of time
The official narrative has more holes than swiss cheese…it’s bs.
Unbelievable 19 years on people engaged in circular activity.
It’s the video of Building 7 coming down that has won thousands of people over – not someone worrying about how many people were actually inside it when it was blown up. Most certainly, Catte. It sure is. It certainly preoccupied my mind too. Ever wonder if there might be a reason for everyone’s devotion to the study of its collapse? Please answer this question: Why did they bring down WTC-7 in a highly-incriminating showcase implosion on 9/11 with all the journalists commenting on how it looked like controlled demolition but not give us any clue about the destructions of WTCs 3-6? Vince DeMentri, WCBS reporter “It was almost as if it were a planned implosion. It just pancaked.” Note his smile as he says the word “pancaked”. Al Jones, 1010 WINS reporter “And I turned in time to see what looked like a skyscraper implosion. It looked like it had been done… Read more »
Most certainly, Catte. It sure is. It certainly preoccupied my mind too. Ever wonder if there might be a reason for everyone’s devotion to the study of its collapse? P darling, you know the reason – because it works! Because ordinary people are persuaded by it and it helps wake them up. Your argument is (I think) that the perps cleared the buildings, blew them up, told everyone they did it, and then faked a bunch of deaths so that no one would believe them. Your central a priori assumption being that people would be deterred from accepting the govt would kill so many of its own citizens and would therefore reject the evidence of controlled demolition on that basis. Well, leaving aside the sheer insanity of telling someone something you don’t want them to know because you’re sure they won’t believe you, you need to accept your reasoning fails at its own first… Read more »
Catte, the question you answered was really more a throwaway. I’d like you to answer this question:
Why did they bring down WTC-7 in a highly-incriminating showcase implosion on 9/11 with all the journalists commenting on how it looked like controlled demolition but not give us any clue about the destructions of WTCs 3-6?
P – you are doing exactly the thing I describe in my previous reply – assuming everything done is intended to be seen to be done and reasoning from there. That’s a major error in logic that invalidates everything that follows after. But to answer you – Who cares? What does it matter why the controlled demolition of WTC7 is so obvious? What does it matter whether it was some deluded intention or an accident? The point is it is obvious, and because of that it has woken up thousands and thousands of people to the the Big Lie. If the PTB were crazy enough to do it on purpose (as you believe) it has backfired – hugely. So, if you really want to wake people up – start pushing the truths that do it most effectively – the evidence for nanothermite In the dust and the video of WTC7… Read more »
The point is it is obvious, and because of that it has woken up thousands and thousands of people to the the Big Lie. If the PTB were crazy enough to do it on purpose (as you believe) it has backfired – hugely. I must say, Catte, when I saw the word “backfired” my eyes widened. I’m like “backfired”, “backfired”?? What on earth can Catte mean? What? Who? Where? When? How? The idea was as novel to me as the novel coronavirus. “Backfired”? Really? How wonderful that would be. I puzzled and puzzled and came up with a theory. In addition to all the thousands and thousands woken up by WTC-7’s Emperor’s-New-Clothes collapse, it’s the combined efforts of the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the family members and Leroy Hulsey from Alaska University with his study of WTC-7’s collapse and the core community of 9/11 truth.… Read more »
It ‘backfired’, sweetheart, because the perps original aim was – in your opinion – to deter people from believing 9/11 was an inside job, and the opposite has happened. i don’t know how to make that any easier to grasp. I think you have lost touch with what this is about. We are trying to wake people up to the fact the official story is a lie, ok? The people you have decided are ‘controlled opposition’ are succeeding in doing that – waking up thousands and thousands of ordinary people. Whereas you and those others obsessing over side issues like the numbers of dead or whether it was a a ‘false flag’ or a ‘psyop’ are – at best – indulging in a minority hobby – of value or interest to no one beside yourselves. I urge you to reconsider your priorities. I’m sorry to be so relatively brief in… Read more »
As I say in my previous post, I believe 9/11 Truth is 100% controlled and the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry is as bogus as the 9/11 Commission which must necessarily be the case if I’m correct in saying that 9/11 was, in reality, a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event. If all the extra truthers coming on board because of the clear evidence of WTC-7’s collapse put their trust in the Lawyers Committee to take the case to court then nothing will happen. The extra numbers won’t make a shred of difference. The power elite have been ruling us for millennia. They are very, very experienced in their psyops. The notion that they would push out WTC-7’s collapse deliberately and have it “backfire” on them does strike me as amusing I have to say. Really, Catte? They’ve pushed it out deliberately and it’s backfired on… Read more »
Actually, let’s just make it simple. I really do not understand why you find no significance in the difference between a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as real and a “false flag”, I really, really don’t. To me, they are absolutely worlds apart.
However, let’s look at it this way:
“Exercise” means categorically that the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry is bogus because it means the “9/11 families” are bogus.
Do you see significance in the fact that the Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry is as bogus as the 9/11 Commission (assuming it is)?
Petra’s over the target, bomb doors open. How do we know? Intense troll flak (down votes). Must’ve attracted the attention of the 77th! Well done Petra Liverani!
I’m not of a military mindset, Mark, but love it!!
There was no “collapse”, nor “controlled demolition”. There is no such thing as nano-thermite. What happened was this:
911 NYC full sequence
345 NYC fire-fighters who worked at the WTC disaster site have died of cancer: an unprecedented rate. Thousands of others are sick or dying, but this is only reported abroad. Their illnesses are deliberately misdiagnosed or attributed to spurious or unspecified “toxic” substances. NYC government recently settled lawsuits for medical care or compensation by 10,000 persons, of whom over 600 had cancer. Yet, officials maintain that there is no proof the WTC disaster caused this. – Gordon Duff, 2011
Researched 9/11 for about ten years, following developments closely. Ryan struck me as one of the most balanced and sane voices in the mix, and his book looking at possible suspects was a significant effort to move the conversation forward from “what happened ?” toward, “who did it and why?”. Much as I respect his efforts and those of others too many to mention, in terms of presenting a coherent explanation for those latter questions, I’ve only really read the likes of Barrett, Bolyn and Sarkovski as offering something that makes sense. Most researchers conclude that 9/11 was perpetrated by “”the neocons””, yet when it comes to any in depth assessment of who the neocons actually are, who founded the movement, what their objectives are/were, most of the 9/11 truth movement just peters out to silence. These events are primarily about narrative control. The narratives do not stand for more… Read more »
Crank, the only thing that makes sense is that 9/11 was a psyop in the true sense of the word not a half-arsed psyop where they faked half and did half for real. That is the only thing that makes any sense, OK? Can you imagine the loved ones of 3,000 people obviously murdered by their own government being polite about it? Can you imagine them lying down and taking it as they seemingly have for 19 years? If your son or daughter had been murdered by your government would you take it lying down? Why have the loved ones of 3,000 people taken it lying down for 19 years? Please tell me, WHY? Millions have been spent on “9/11 Truth” whose ultimate purpose has simply been to smother the pivotal truth of 9/11: death and injury were staged. The funny thing is that even though they’ve spent all those… Read more »
The moon is made of cheese. It’s bleeding obvious
I don’t believe in cheese.
Has there been a background check on all the 3000 dead at all?
Not as far as I know but you don’t need it to prove staged death and injury. Everywhere you turn in investigation of death and injury there are anomalies. It’s not important to prove that no one died or was injured – perhaps a small number died or were injured accidentally or were specifically targeted but the 3,000 dead / 6,000 injured story does not add up in any shape or form and we know right off the bat that 265 people didn’t die in plane crashes because the evidence shows that none of the nominated airliners crashed.
Or even a list of the dead on the plane even?
Even the name of the airline who supposed to have their plane hijacked?
These are obvious questions I’ve not seen any real evidence for.
Here’s a list of all the passengers.
https://stgvisie.home.xs4all.nl/List-of-Passengers-911.html
Jon Revusky has done a report on Betty Ong, allegedly a flight attendant on Flight 11 who provided a lot of the story for the alleged hijacking of that plane.
Flight attendant, Betty Ong – Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty”
There are many such lists. They kept changing over months and years.
Yes, precisely, which shows how meaningful they are.
It is likely any evidence presented to you would be rejected out of hand ?
You can only give it a try, Jim. I present evidence all the time that is ignored. You can only try me out.
Does not add up ? Like 2+2 = 5 perhaps ? The inside job conspiracy is part of the CIA misinformation campaign , just as foolish as denying the Covid strain of corona virus , a minor flu variant , does not exist ?
Ok – so explain how a bunch of terrorists wired three high rise buildings for demolition with tons of nanothermite
No one wire anything ?You misunderstand my position , I believe almost to a certainty that 2 airliners took down the poorly constructed to begin with bankster towers. I have seen cell phone pictures shown to me , a few days after the attack, of the buildings taken at the time of the impacts just by happenstance..
You may believe what you like, but it’s nonsense. The towers were not poorly constructed and no one ever suggested they fell due to plane impacts alone. Read the NIST report. Or just keep making stuff up about cellphone pix if that’s easier for you 🙄
You’re wasting your time with this lot, Jim.
And vice-versa.
Yes , and thousands of their relatives have been interviewed, some repeatedly in the run up to the Iraq invasion.
Yet, almost none of them applied for compensation?
Petra, I am basically sympathetic to your point of view but to take one example “we’re meant to believe that a few people survived the 12-second collapse of the North tower” Well if we follow Dr Judy Woods idea that the towers were ‘dustified’ and did not actually ‘collapse’ then this ‘miracle’ survivor story makes sense. The building turned to dust about them and they were able to walk out. Have you read Judy Wood “Where Did the Towers Go?” I think it would be well worth your time if you have not. But I agree with you about fakery etc The more we focus and look for a ‘virus’ the more we are being misdirected. I think the fact they released this virus story in the Spring is even evidence of fakery they did not want this fictitious virus to have much of any real world consequences or connections.… Read more »
I think you need to actually read the “miracle survivor” stories before you give them any credence, Patrick. I don’t believe Judy Wood anyway, I think she’s controlled opposition.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/
Petra, but it seems you have not read Judy Woods’ book, you can throw around phrases like ‘controlled opposition’ but that does not get us very far. I do not believe this of Judy Woods at all and it is interesting her main ‘partner’ in her work a guy called Andrew Johnson has done great work attempting to show covid is a hoax. Both Ms Wood and Mr Johnson have imo total integrity and I have never perceived even a hint of deception from either of them. Funny enough her analysis of 9/11 ends up if fairly similar territory as yourself. You might be surprised by how much you have in common
Andrew Johnson and Judy Wood have both shown themselves to be pretty deceptive in their attacks on other members of the truth community – especially Steven Jones
Steven Jones is a disso, along with Fetzer, so not a truther.
Do you have any evidence at all to support that?
Yes he claims that the twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition, a blatant lie, which the seismic record for the day alone proved.
No – I think you will find what Jones does is claim there is evidence for thermite in the WTC dust – and prove this with data. This is why he has been so attacked. Because this simple fact – the presence of thermite in the dust – completely destroys the official story. Hence so much energy going in to discrediting him and diverting attention on to various dead-end issues like DEW weapons and ‘no one died’ nonsense. Keep everyone arguing rather than uniting around the single most crucial piece of physical evidence to date.
Haha you rig the votes here and you censor …so is that love of the truth or love of one narrative for the ” truth community”?
https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/10/13/what-new-virus/
Sorry BD – we don’t rig the votes, you’re just not very popular – man up and deal
Yes you do. I’ve seen it and I’ve also seen my votes removed thats rigging the votes.
Your CO narrative is very popular as was your old false claim supporting msm there was a new disease “covid”, when you just talked about the face masks and measures etc.
You never said why you even use the facebook up down votes( to promote comments for the one O Guardian narrative).
Yes I am unpopular here at the off shoot of Guardian.
https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/09/16/the-rise-of-the-alt-right-msm/
No they don’t.
Patrick, loads of people say Judy Wood is controlled opposition but for all I know it was DEWs. Actually, I like to stick to the simplest explanation possible: the buildings came down by controlled means. That’s good enough. Getting wound up in exactly how is what they want us to do.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/907694767414349824
Just to say I never go to a link without some explanation of it.
Ha ha a cop out. I knew it, a 100% disso.
No, it’s not. A friend very annoyingly constantly sends me videos without an explanation and I tell him repeatedly not to do it. I’ve found that quite often when I clicked the video I really didn’t understand why he’d emailed it. I’d never email a link to a video myself without some small explanation, I think it’s kind of rude. What puzzles me is why anyone does it.
Just explain why you’ve put the link and I’ll respond. Pretty simple.
The video shows the core steels turning into dust and floating away.
I have read Judy Wood’s “Where Did the Towers Go” and found it to be less than internally consistent. Much of what she says does make sense; but her flat out dismissal of anything outside of her own theory is rather disturbing – especially since she is unable to shed any light at all on where such a high energy beam weapon would have been located to effect the damage.
She said at one time she thought it might be in space
If you were paying attention you would know that laser weapons are frequently used in the Middle East, including the recent explosion in Lebanon, and for starting so called wildfires in California – not to mention the spate of not so suspicious sink holes that suddenly started appearing all over the world – of course just a coincidence!!
The US military now have cloaked space craft developed from secret German technology they acquired in 1945. This was being developed in the background whilst they kept the plebs occupied with the faked Appollo ‘moon missions’.
They have also fooled the people into thinking that they are UFOs, that is, when they decide to make them briefly visible. These craft are most likely more than capable of atomizing two concrete and steel buildings. Let’s face it they have turned Syrian and Iraqi cities into heaps of dust.
That’s like saying “I used this shotgun to kill a deer therefore a shotgun brought down the WTC towers.” The amount of energy required to do what was done to the TTs with a ‘laser’ would be astronomical and impossible. Which is why Wood never did any calculations about it.
That stuff about the Nazi flying saucer is great – but I’m not gonna bother commenting on it 😘
Never mind all that, what have you got that explains the dustification of solid steel girders, and point me to a serious engineering rebuttal of what she’s written. Then I will take notice.
There is no evidence any of the steel was ‘dustified’. Calculations have been done on this that refute Wood’s data-free assertions
This video says otherwise: https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/907694767414349824
You seems confused about what psyop is or can be and definitely it is not solely making up completely phony non-existing events that never happened.
It is in most documented examples deliberately creating real event and that via manipulation of emotions and exaggerations, imposing completely fabricated interpretations and narratives via medial engagement to enact preconceived and preplanned political and socioeconomic changes that face insurmountable opposition and can be only forces on population under exigent circumstances in invoked by medial manufacturing of large scale National threat.
Reichstag in fact was burnt by Nazis although fire was small and the fire did not constitute a signal for communists to overthrow Weimar Republic what Hitler claimed demanding state of emergency to be imposed while he was a running government. It was classical psyop.
In 1933 Germany’s parliament building in Berlin, the Reichstag, was set on fire by communists. Marinus van der Lubbe, a 23 years old Dutch communist was apprehended at the scene and 3 others arrested later. The Jews to this day falsify history and claim the Nazis started the fire for their own political ends
“I have always been thoroughly convinced that the Dutch Communist, Marinus van der Lubbe, committed this act of arson unaided. He claimed to have set the Reichstag building on fire as a protest against the rising power of the Nazis and during the trial, he stated sole responsibility and was even hostile to the idea of being declared innocent. It is alao worth noting that The other four defendants, all Communsts, (Ernst Torgler, Georgi Dimitrov, Blagoi Popov, and Vassili Tanev) brought to trial were all cleared and set free.”
— Rob Jones
‘No planes, staged death and injury’ is such an extreme claim that it invites mockery. Also, Occam’s razor means that the simplest explanation for events and phenomena trumps complex, convoluted theory, like the one you give here. Here’s my theory of why 9/11 happened: Islamism. Sadly, I can bleat about religious hate until I die, but OffG will almost certainly treat me and my opinion as blasphemous, delete me again, and so confirm fears of leftist intolerance, blindness, hypocrisy, and authoritarianism. And, if OffG already knows what’s true, why on earth set up a forum to debate it, or ever debate anything?
Stop claiming to have posts deleted when you know this is a lie
Occam’s Razor is not about simplest explanation for “events” it is about the simplest explanation for the EVIDENCE. The EVIDENCE!
Extreme?
To my mind to think that the US government would callously and cold-bloodedly allow those poor people in the buildings to die when they could so easily fake their deaths is extreme – it is absurd, it is preposterous.
That 9/11, American version , was the desired “good crisis” the Bush Regime wanted is obvious ? Why does it have to be a complex inside job when assigning some religious warriors to fly airliners into the shoddily built bankster towers is much simpler ? That the Saudis pulled off this act of war with just a little help from the Bush regime and gained substantially from it was and is the real tragedy here.
The towers were not shoddily built. You have already been told this sufficiently that your continued advocacy of this falsehood is starting to seem strange.
The towers were built using a design that maximised leasable floor space containing massive open plan office space with no structural support other than the lift shafts and the outer steel supports. The design was effectively a rectangular steel tube. There is a parallel in the UK – the tubular steel tower on Emley Moor collapsed when the outer steel shell deformed and lost structural integrity.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/50-years-21-pictures-emley-moor-tv-tower-collapse-484853
That is just a lie – it flagrantly omits the fact the ‘lift shaft’ was embedded in a massive core of connected steel columns that formed that actual base support structure. The exact same design was utilized in the new freedom tower btw – which kinda undermines any idea it was considered faulty
The most shoddily built hi rises would still not have come down from minimal damage and fires which heated most of the steel samples examined by NIST to only 500 deg F, WAY short of the 1112 deg F needed to weaken structural steel significantly, this would not have resulted in massive steel beams being flung horizontally hundreds of feet, would not have led to molten steel and iron being found at the site in ample amounts…. would not have led WTC 7, which was NOT hit by a plane to come down in 6 seconds. Speaking here as someone with an engineering degree.
When you speak of the families of those murdered by their own government, you open a Pandora’s Box of corpses. Namely, the thousands upon thousands of US soldiers used as cannon fodder in the Empire’s Wars of Aggression. Very few of their families speak out.
That’s true, however, when you go into the military death is a recognised possibility. On your own soil in a civilian situation it’s a different matter. But it’s just one element of my argument, of course. I mean, we have an alleged “loved one”, Bob McIlvaine, but the photographs of him and his son, Bobby, are obviously doctored and there is so much other evidence supporting the hypothesis that 9/11 was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event.
“Can you imagine the loved ones of 3,000 people obviously murdered by their own government being polite about it?”
What makes you think the relatives question the official narrative?
When a loved one dies I think the scales tend to fall from people’s eyes more easily, however, even if they believed the official story wouldn’t they be jumping up and down about how the US multi-trillion dollar defence system paid for by their tax dollars failed so spectacularly with no good explanation on 9/11?
So basically your whole argument on this point is based in what you think people would do. Would you listen to anyone else make a point on so flimsy a basis? I mean I can counter that by just saying I don’t think that’s what people would do. Is either of our opinions valid evidence?
So basically your whole argument on this point is based in what you think people would do. Not at all, Fred. My thinking, unlike most people’s it seems to me, is guided by the constant question “Does everything fit my hypothesis?”. So what I do is throw out certain items that fit my hypothesis for consideration but always behind the point I throw out is whatever other available evidence supports that hypothesis. When the truth about a matter is under question I tend to see the world in terms of washing lines representing the various possible hypotheses and I’m always checking to see if each handkerchief (representing a particular fact or piece of evidence) fits on my chosen washing line. If it doesn’t I know I need to change my hypothesis. Does that make sense? So my case for staged death and injury is below, however, I think that the perps if… Read more »
As always, help is available. You only need seek it.
Guys, Petra is just saying that 9/11 is the same MO as Sandyhook, Christchurch, 7/7, Anders Breivik etc ad ifinitum. I’d say that truly nails it. These bastards literally have us jumping at shadows. It IS that evil. I’d recommend checking out Miles Williams Mathis blog before the circular firing squad takes aim on me.
Exactly, Mark, except for 9/11 they have two streams of propaganda: one aimed at the masses and one aimed at the truthers, in order to suppress the truth that it was an inside job. Armed with an important piece of truth (controlled demolition) but an equally important lie (real death and injury) the truthers are hamstrung. Those two pieces do not fit together, they repel each other like magnets out in the non-truther world.
For Sandy Hook, Christchurch, etc it would be utterly absurd to have a second stream suggesting that the government killed the children but it works PERFECTLY for 9/11.
She isn’t just saying that, she is saying it’s the most important thing and accusing anyone who does not agree of being disinfo. She is actually telling people to ignore everyone who has produced evidence for controlled demolition whom she says are controlled opposition! This is insane and divisive. If you listen to her we should be ignoring Kevin Ryan and Steve Jones and David Griffin and listening to that guy who thinks the WTC buildings were hollow tubes and the corpses of the dead are all dummies.
I would have more respect for her opinion if she could give credit to the people who have actually produced the hard evidence and not dismiss anyone who doesn’t agree with her. That smacks of Judy Wood to me.
Huh? Of course, controlled demolition brought down the buildings, Fred, and A&E for 9/11 Truth have done a fantastic job! explaining the building collapses except at least for the BS about molten steel at Ground Zero (they’re controlled opposition after all) and I don’t necessarily agree with the hollow tubes theory. I’ll need to put a disclaimer where I put the link to Steve De’ak. I do, however, have serious doubts about the claims of the “toxic dust” killing people because it strikes me as being propaganda aimed at the truthers to maintain their sense of the evilness of the perps. As I think the evidence clearly shows that this was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise comprising all the smaller exercises and drills they’ve told us about … plus a few more they haven’t, then I think they would have tried to conduct the operation using the best Work, Health… Read more »
Just to add: the reason it works perfectly for 9/11 and wouldn’t work for the other psyops is that the alleged killing on 9/11 was incidental. It’s not as if truthers are accusing the US government of going out of their way to kill all those poor people in the buildings and to think that they would have deliberately killed all those people makes no sense although they do pepper us with propaganda telling us some people were targeted in the buildings … which I swallowed hook, line and sinker.
What a psyop!
You claim with no links or evidence that “Most researchers conclude that 9/11 was perpetrated by “”the neocons”.” But most of the world thinks religion and religious hate for the USA motivated the biggest suicide attack in history. You and your ‘researchers’ seem intent on memory-holing this little detail, for reasons unknown. Perhaps political correctness is responsible. So maybe you should explain how your anonymous neo-cons gave the attackers their religious hate?
You claim with no links or evidence that “Most researchers conclude that 9/11 was perpetrated by “”the neocons” Go and read the archived discussion pages at most 9/11 forums and the majority opinion was that the Neocon circle of foreign policy activists in and around Washington are fingured as prime suspects by people who have looked through the evidential material. But most of the world thinks religion and religious hate for the USA motivated the biggest suicide attack in history. If you mean the religious hate of so-called Islamist extremists, then yes a majority (certainly in the West) do still consider them responsible, and they think that simply because they have not researched the subject. You and your ‘researchers’ seem intent on memory-holing this little detail, for reasons unknown I am not intent on memory holing anything, so go away with your accusations. Perhaps political correctness is responsible. Political correctness… Read more »
It was definitely abetted by the Bush Regimes desire to destroy Iraq and increase Saudi influence in the region as a US ally. A plan that failed miserably with the arrival of the incompetent Obomber .
Links are not evidence just more supporting opinions these days . All data can and will be , for a price or a cause , be tainted . The downside of the so called information age.
Surely you know by now “They hate us for our freedom!”
The neocons were and are merely servants of the ruling globalist establishment. They are not independently powerful. Most of them have only occupied mid-level positions in government. Cheney’s position had far more to do with his membership/leadership in the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission than his membership in PNAC.
Many have commented on the neocon movement – even naming names. And of course the infamous PNAC document has become de rigueur among 911 Truthers.
@Howard
Many have commented on the neocon movement – even naming names. And of course the infamous PNAC document has become de rigueur among 911 Truthers.
Yes this is what I said in the original reply above, noting that the commentary usually seems to stop there, i.e. before asking “Who formed the Neocons? Who comprised them in 2001, and what were their backgrounds ?Who inspired them intellectually ? What were the fundamental ideas really about ? Were they open and honest about their intentions?”. These questions seem to lead people into taboo areas, and much of the Truth movement simply abridged its inquiry at that point, preferring conceptual answers instead.
If 911 was about expanding US empire for the sake of US national interest, or US capitalist enterprises, or about an oil grab, does that really fit as a theory with what we have seen the past 19 years ?
One of the best sources for information regarding the neocons is Adam Curtis’ documentary “The Power of Nightmares.” The things I’ve read concerning the neocon ideology suggests it dovetails the neoliberal ideology and has its roots in what has become the Libertarian movement – namely, such influences as Ludwig von Mises and Milton Friedman.
*best sources. Geesh, the BBfuckingC !
Read widely is my advice.
“What’s a neocon?” once asked Bush 43 to his father Bush 41, after more than three years in the White House. “Do you want names, or a description?” answered 41. “Description.” “Well,” said 41, “I’ll give it to you in one word: Israel.”That anecdote, quoted by Andrew Cockburn, sums it up. The neoconservative movement was born in the editorial office of the monthly magazine Commentary, which had replaced the Contemporary Jewish Record in 1945 as the press organ of the American Jewish Committee. “If there is an intellectual movement in America to whose invention Jews can lay sole claim, neoconservatism is it,” wrote Gal Beckerman in the Jewish Daily Forward, January 6, 2006. “It is a fact that as a political philosophy, neoconservatism was born among the children of Jewish immigrants and is now largely the intellectual domain of those immigrants’ grandchildren.” The founding fathers of neoconservatism (Norman Podhoretz, Irving… Read more »
Funny how this appeared just after the term “circuit breaker” became common:
https://twitter.com/ng_eso/status/1316398489363001344
Blaming it on lack of wind shows they can’t even be bothered to come up with a vaguely plausible narrative (whether that’s laziness, psychological manipulation or just outright mockery, who knows). If their narratives were in any way real, this would lead to some debate about whether wind power is such a great idea – but of course it isn’t and wind power has been designated part of the agenda. It’s like how there’s no questioning of space programmes despite economies being tanked everywhere.
Anyway, the pieces are in place for UK power cuts if that’s the way they want to go.
around the U>k there is ridicule amounts of digging being done 2 stage funny how it falls with the lockdown / local lock down of the digging
CityFibre chosen as a preferred provider of full fibre capacity for Three’s 5G rollout nationwide
https://www.cityfibre.com/news/cityfibre-chosen-preferred-provider-backhaul-threes-5g-rollout-nationwide/
Wind doesn’t look all that low to me:
https://gridwatch.co.uk
(And subjectively, it has felt bloody windy to me for weeks; I ride a bike, and you certainly notice it).
Although I do notice that CCGT (gas) is proving a solid 50% of the demand, as I write, and demand seems to have gone up, probably because ambient temperatures have gone down.
Transition Integrity Project founder calls for murder of official who exposed plans to manipulate election — NYT accuses those who exposed coup plan of stoking violence. TIP has publicly declared plans to manipulate the U.S. November elections; including paying influencers to support politicians, plans to manipulate the postal vote, and for Biden to refuse to concede, regardless of the election outcome. (See Transition Integrity Project and Hawkfish). Nils Gilman, the founder of the so-called “bipartisan” Transition Integrity Project, called for the execution of former Trump administration national security official Michael Anton in light of Anton writing critically about the group’s efforts to steal the 2020 election and secure a victory for Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden. — https://thenationalpulse.com/news/transition-integrity-project-execution/ New York Times prepares the ground, further demonizing those who’ve QUOTED TIP’s OWN WORDS — Riled Up: Misinformation Stokes Calls for Violence on Election Day Baseless claims are circulating online about a… Read more »
Read for yourself:
Manifesto of the Transition Integrity Project: Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition — August 3, 2020
Executive Summary
Page 11, point two:
“Planners need to take seriously the notion that this may well be a street fight, not a legal battle; technocratic solutions, courts, and a reliance on elites observing norms are not the answer here.”
They welcome and prepare for civil war because they can no longer win by peaceful democracy. Violence is fine if they do it. They’ll ruin the election and keep burning down cities and terrorising innocent Americans rather than lose to Trump again. And they call themselves ‘Democrats’!
Your last sentence says it all: “they call themselves Democrats!” I can call myself an Angel; that doesn’t make me one.
Extortion 17 – Seal Team 6 – OBL in Iran – Hilary and Joe… Oh my!!
If Joe Biden and Ukraine – where he got a prosecutor fired for daring to investigate his unqualified. $50k-a-month son – does not dominate the headlines from now until the Presidential election…
… you’ll know the U.S. has gone full Soviet Union.
Alan Howell Parrot – Falconry – The Iran transfer to the US of OBL
Ukraine is DISTRACTION
Shady dealings indeed
Imagine the endless headlines and outrage were this Donald Trump Jr. Yet many believe the MSM isn’t part of the US left.
UK Column News – 14th October 2020 PART ONE ONLINE VOTING BY UK MPs REMOVED Notice on Parliamentarians’ web sites: As a result of covid some MPs have been “less able to vote in Parliament”. Jun 2-9, 2020 “The option voting online was removed and a number of MPs may have been unable to vote because they were not physically able to attend.” June 10 onwards: MPs could designate another MP to vote on their behalf or pair off with an MP with an opposing vote. WHY WAS ONLINE VOTING BY MPs CANCELLED, WHO HAS DELIBERATELY HOBBLED THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, THIS WAS NEVER REPORTED? WHY MPs DON’T VOTE Yvonne Fovargue MP (Lab) says the abstained because a) she received representations on both sides b) in a pandemic gov requires extraordinary powers. Alex Thomson: The truth is Keir Starmer ordered them to abstain, so they were whipped which means blackmailed. They… Read more »
The British people need to wake up fast. The forced poverty will do that. They also need to remember all those who have been killed or ruined over the years fighting for the very rights this and previous gov’t has been trying to remove. The people will eventually realise they have been scammed. Let’s hope we have some time left to react once that happens. I guess many are spending their forced imprisonment looking for answers on the ever dwindling pages of the internet. It’s all down to belief because official facts pushed by NWO quacks are being destroyed by reason and medical experience, and very soon the law. Many Brits have had their faith in gov’t shattered. They just could not believe the credible reports that this scamdemic has been in the gov’t planning stages for years. Whatever rules wannabe dictators force onto their public, the result is always… Read more »
We can peacefully vote out Boris the globalist puppet and/or wannabe dictator. The only way to give power to the people, as leftists used to promise, is to defend and restore a real democracy in which unelected technocrats and famous ‘philanthropists’ don’t set or buy the political agenda. The only alternative system of governance is autocracy or elite rule, which denies plebs any peaceful power or influence over politicians.
Boris obviously bows first to the globalist elites, not to British voters or something called conservatism. MPs say nothing, while Starmer would likely be even more subservient to Gates and his vision. We need a British leader, not globalist poodles and puppets.
“Alex Thomson: The truth is Keir Starmer ordered them to abstain, so they were whipped which means blackmailed. They did not vote on conscience or principle.”
That’s not enough. If need be, you leave the party, sit as an independent and vote on conscience when the future of democracy and freedom is at stake.
You’d have to have a backbone for that Kevin. Fovargue gives the impression of almost getting it. My parents live in her constituency, she is an empty vessel who is there because she doesn’t have a penis. There’s no way MPs like her would put truth, honesty and ordinary people above the party.